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#Post#: 979--------------------------------------------------
O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 19, 2019, 4:32 am
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New scenario thread for playtest of On a Little Street in
Singapore. Please do not create a new thread for this scenario.
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: guest25 Date: January 30, 2019, 7:08 am
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Ran this one twice.
Test 1 final score 30: Draw (one bomber dispersed). Felt like a
draw, leaning allied.
Test 2 final score 36: Japanese victory (no bombers dispersed).
Felt like a dead draw.
This scenario boils down to 'can you get a bomber to fail it's
cohesion check?'
On the first run I attacked the lead bombers and escorts. An
intense fight developed, with high casualties on both sides
(losses were 5 allies, 7 axis).
For the second run I tried to slip the Buffalos past the lead
japanese units, and hit the softer center, which means sneaking
in under the cloud layer. The high Buffalo dives to get into
the fight, the vet zero follows. A huge fight develops with the
allies dogging the ki30s, inflicting 4 losses on the dated
bombers. The ki30s made all cohesion checks, and a japanese
victory resulted due to that alone. Herein lies a problem I
think. The Ki30s are only 1vp units. The soft underbelly may
be soft, but it's not worth it. Yet this approach was clearly
more fun than the direct approach I took in the first test run.
This was a long dogged fight, with lots of action and blood on
both sides. The Japanese bombers just made all their cohesion
checks. Allies were effective in making many attacks, but the
Japanese just rolled well.
Recommendations: The tail Japanese units are too far out of the
fight. Either open up the Allied setup somehow, or eliminate
the center wave of Japanese units (ie delete the Ki30 wave, move
up the Ki21 wave).
One thing I liked about this scenario is the feeling of a huge
Japanese force being attacked by outnumbered defenders. The
initial tally roll between the high buffalo and zero makes the
game a bit dicey. It's an important random element that the
players have zero influence over. Maybe give the allies the
option to set up that particular unit further back.
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: Elias Nordling Date: January 30, 2019, 7:23 am
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During the Eagles playtesting, we noticed that in scenarios with
both 1 VP and 2 VP bombers, the 1 VP bombers are not worth the
bother. The solution used was to reduce the VP value to 1 VP for
all bombers in a special rule. Here, making it 2 VP for the Ki30
also soounds viable.
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 30, 2019, 8:36 am
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Great AAR. Though could I ask for a VP breakdown for each
scenario (such as how much BP for losses on each side)? Helps
with the number crunching later.
I agree with Elias: where we have a mismatch of 1 VP vs 2 VP
bombers, it's best to make them worth the same VP. In this case
I'd increased the Ki-30 VPs to 2 each, which make them a nice
soft underbelly.
Good use of cloud, by the looks of things.
#Post#: 1338--------------------------------------------------
Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: guest25 Date: January 30, 2019, 10:43 am
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Game #1 Scoring:
Axis - Bombers (33 VP), Kills (6 VP)
Allies - Kills (10 VP)[3x Betty kills]
Total: 29VP
Game #2 Scoring:
Axis - Bombers (36 VP), Kills (5VP)
Allies - Kills (5 VP) [three of which were ki30s, so they
messed them up pretty good]
Total: 36VP
Looks like I miscounted on my original report. I've got vassal
save files for these two games and can post screen shots if you
want more detail.
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: guest25 Date: January 31, 2019, 7:57 am
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[quote author=Elias Nordling link=topic=79.msg1335#msg1335
date=1548854582]
During the Eagles playtesting, we noticed that in scenarios with
both 1 VP and 2 VP bombers, the 1 VP bombers are not worth the
bother. The solution used was to reduce the VP value to 1 VP for
all bombers in a special rule. Here, making it 2 VP for the Ki30
also soounds viable.
[/quote]
I like making the Ki30s 2vp as a special rule for this scenario.
edit: maybe instead of another special rule, you just soften
the center more. Getting rid of the ki30 escorts would have a
similar effect.
#Post#: 1350--------------------------------------------------
Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 1, 2019, 2:44 am
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That's an interesting idea, Dan. I'll take a look at that
tomorrow.
#Post#: 1384--------------------------------------------------
Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 2, 2019, 2:23 am
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So after some reflection, for the next iteration I've adjusted
the set-up, instead compressing the Japanese raids and shifting
them a fraction more to the left. I've also reduced the Ki-21
escort slightly. Let's see how this plays out.
Oh, and I'm going to keep the recommendation on removing the
Ki-30 escort in reserve for the moment. It's an interesting
idea, though.
Update: After some reflection and reviewing the set up again,
I've removed the Ki-30 escort.
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: Kevin Date: March 10, 2019, 2:39 pm
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Scenario: O13 On a little street in Singapore
Version: v0.2 incorporating all the changes listed in the last
post plus removal of the escort for the Ki-30's.
Playtesters: solo
Report: Just a single playing of this one under the new version.
Luck was pretty average though I would say that the Allies
didn't have an easy time but they still won pretty comfortably.
An issue for the Japanese is that the 1st Sentai never got a
Tally so were pretty much out of the picture. Two allied
squadrons went after the Bettys, one followed the dense cloud
under the Anns and then met them head on! And the ace with
veteran started in J11, didn't get a Tally on the Bettys as
intended, so instead did a split once tallying the Sallys at the
end of the raid. This attack didn't go well, and even his of
the flights was annihilated. However, the number of VP's earned
in this engagement was 3VP in favor of Allies due to the
disruption of the bomber being attacked.
Victory:
Allied scores: 5 bombers and 4 fighters for 14VP
Japanes scores: 9 fighters and exiting bombers worth 27VP= 36VP
36VP less 14 = 22 VP so Allies win.
Felt like the Allies didn't have to try very hard to win.
Recommendations: Not sure really. Three of the bombers were
disrupted which cost the Japanese 9 VP, so that's a big shift
but how much damage do the Japanese need to do to win? Things
might not have been so easy for Allies if the escort for the
Ki-30's was still in the game...
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Re: O13 On a Little Street in Singapore
By: pilotofficerprune Date: March 11, 2019, 8:51 am
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Why did the 1st Sentai not get a tally? Were there any factors
like altitude in play?
What about the high Ki-43 sweep? Does that need to be dropped in
altitude to help provide better cover for the Ki-30s?
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