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#Post#: 967--------------------------------------------------
O25 The Great Raid
By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 19, 2019, 4:23 am
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New scenario thread for playtest of The Great Raid. Please do
not create a new thread for this scenario.
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: Peter_Wagner Date: February 6, 2019, 6:28 am
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Losses to Soviet aircraft from bombing . . . will those cause a
cohesion roll?
Pete
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 6, 2019, 6:43 am
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Good question. I'd say 'no' if only to not open a can of worms.
Probably need to be explicit about that, though.
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: Peter_Wagner Date: February 6, 2019, 9:23 am
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Also, I assume that the Russians can make tally attempts while
on the ground (like at the leading Ki-21). The Tally rules
simply state that all fighters "on map" can make tally attempts.
But I assume that even though you have multiple tallies, only 1
of those fighters can take off per turn even though bombers
trigger their movement. I think logically this makes sense, but
just a heads up in case you want to clarify.
Pete
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: Peter_Wagner Date: February 6, 2019, 9:27 am
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Interesting tactical note. The Ki-21s start at elevation 4 but
by climbing to elevation 5, they escape light flak while going
from -1 to -2 on V bomb sight modifier. Staying at elevation 4
you get attacked by flak and lose the +1 for no flak mod. Going
to elevation 5 the modifiers come out the same with +1 for no
flak. May as well go high and avoid flak.
Pete
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: Peter_Wagner Date: February 6, 2019, 9:36 am
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Also, with the CAP mission for the I-16 that starts in E0 on the
ground . . . does he simply take off and then circle in E0? If
so, what about the rules about Small Arms fire. I remember
discussing this earlier and you said that Small Arms attacks ALL
units that fly into its square. Shouldn't we make some remark in
the scenario such as "Soviet squadrons are not affected by the
Small Arms barrage from Airfields"?
Pete
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 6, 2019, 9:59 am
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All good points.
Yes, units on the map that take off can tally and be tallied,
which is why we changed take-off to the Set-up Phase.
Interesting tactical approach with the Ki-21s. I see no problem
with this.
Hmmm. Might change that CAP I-16 to intercept. Yes, we need a
prohibition of small arms affecting squadron on the turn they
take off. After that, they are fair game.
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: Peter_Wagner Date: February 6, 2019, 10:19 am
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[s]Wait, where in the rules does it suggest that ONLY units that
have taken off can tally? The other ones still waiting their
turn to tally cannot make tally attempts?[/s]
Ah I see now. So those guys waiting their turn to take off are
NOT on the map. They are on the wing display until the turn they
enter. Makes sense now.
Pete
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 6, 2019, 10:55 am
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Yes, the 'on the map' wording is key. There was discussion, way
back in the day, on whether units off-map but about to enter
should be able to tally. So the 'on the map' wording was added
to clarify.
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Re: O25 The Great Raid
By: Peter_Wagner Date: February 6, 2019, 2:15 pm
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Scenario: O25 The Great Raid (Game 1)
Version: v0.1
Playtesters: Peter Wagner (Solo)
Report: Horrible Japanese bombing rolls and Strafing rolls
results in 2 hits on Flak only. I-16s VP farm some Ki-21s and
score 2:1 kill ratio against Japanese.
Victory: Japanese Crushing Defeat!!!!
Japanese bombing 1 VP + enemies shot down 5 VPs
Soviet enemies shot down 12 VPs
Total: -6 VPs, Soviet Victory (no doubt about it)
Recommendations: Well I tried an interesting tactic. I had all 6
Ki-27 squadrons try to strafe Lt Flak and Airfield to try and
get some extra VP. All that resulted is the paper Ki-27s getting
shredded by the Airfield Small Arms barrage and Lt Flak.
Japanese completely focused on the first airfield and stayed
away from the 2nd to avoid more Soviet aircraft in the sky.
Going to try this again and try to keep the Sweeps focused on
sweeping I-16s from the sky. Should be drastically different
from this outcome . . . hopefully.
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