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       #Post#: 819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 9, 2019, 5:47 am
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       So what is an alternative rule? At the end of a combat, some
       units will:
       (a) Have tallies on targets outside the square
       (b) Have no tally because their target has been eliminated
       (c) Have a tally on a broken target
       (d) Have a tally on an unbroken target within the fight
       How do we resolve the tally situation and reconcile all these
       scenarios, without jiggering?
       For example, what if we had a rule whereby after combat each
       side tallied the other side's primary combatant?
       #Post#: 820--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: Elias Nordling Date: January 9, 2019, 5:57 am
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       Not (a), right?
       Since you get a tally phase before the next combat phase where
       you can reassign tallies anyway, forcing tallies to the primary
       combatant won't achieve anything.
       #Post#: 821--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 9, 2019, 5:57 am
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       [quote author=Lee Brimmicombe-Wood link=topic=58.msg819#msg819
       date=1547034438]For example, what if we had a rule whereby after
       combat each side tallied the other side's primary
       combatant?[/quote]
       Actually, that's a problematic solution. It would work fine for
       squadrons that do not have tallies on unbroken targets, but does
       not work where there is a bomber present.
       #Post#: 822--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 9, 2019, 6:00 am
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       [quote author=Elias Nordling link=topic=58.msg820#msg820
       date=1547035025]Not (a), right?[/quote]
       Yes. I am referring to the tally state before reassigning
       tallies after a combat. At that moment it's entirely possible to
       have a participating squadron with a tally on a target outside
       the square.
       #Post#: 823--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 9, 2019, 6:01 am
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       [quote author=Elias Nordling link=topic=58.msg820#msg820
       date=1547035025]Since you get a tally phase before the next
       combat phase where you can reassign tallies anyway, forcing
       tallies to the primary combatant won't achieve anything.[/quote]
       As you pointed out upthread, tally reassignments can happen in
       the Tally Phase, so is this really a problem?
       #Post#: 824--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: Elias Nordling Date: January 9, 2019, 6:23 am
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       Well, since you can reassign tallies in the tally phase, I don't
       see what forcing the players to tally the primary combatant will
       achieve. Not to mention that the primary combatant might be
       broken or outright eliminated.
       #Post#: 825--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 9, 2019, 7:24 am
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       Ignore the idea about tallying the primary combatant. I'm
       asking: if the tallies can be reconfigured in the Tally Phase,
       is this really a problem?
       #Post#: 826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: Elias Nordling Date: January 9, 2019, 9:04 am
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       The tally order in combat? Probably not.
       #Post#: 827--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: pilotofficerprune Date: January 9, 2019, 9:26 am
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       Let me try and break down the problem:
       (a) The attacker is determined by initiative order.
       (b) The initiative order can be manipulated at the end of air
       combat, by tally assignments, or in the Tally Phase
       (c) Setting this order is potentially fiddlesome and a headache
       in big battles
       (d) Is there a simpler way to do this?
       Does that cover it?
       #Post#: 828--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Tally order in combat
       By: Elias Nordling Date: January 9, 2019, 9:32 am
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       Yes
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