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#Post#: 1728--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 15, 2019, 5:36 am
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I think we need to stop innovating and reformatting the backs of
the ADCs. We have been making evolutionary changes every week
for the past few weeks and though I appreciate the desire to
improve and perfect, I am getting really worried that every time
I do this process I introduce new errors. I feel like a
production line for making new errors. This has to end and we
have to put these cards to bed.
This is already causing me problems as I find myself starting to
update the backs of cards that might never be reprinted, for the
sake of bringing them into line with the format changes. So with
that in mind:
(1) I will be keeping the multi-VP fronts of the cards as they
are. They will list '2 VP', not '2 VPs'. This does not trouble
me.
(2) After the next round of changes I need to lock down on
innovation. I will still need a proofing pass, but this must be
for typos and errors only, not to innovate new format changes.
After Vincent delivers the remaining feedback, the format
changes need to be done and dusted.
If the new formats are not optimal, we will go with them anyway.
This process of constant revision and evolution must stop.
#Post#: 1730--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: Vincent Lefavrais Date: February 15, 2019, 2:37 pm
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Lee,
I feel somewhat bad as I'm pretty sure I'm the reason behind
your post... I can see how you might begin to feel, having to
hammer at the ADCs every weekends for the past month, because of
the nitpicky comments of a guy coming four years late to the
party...
You know that every comment I make after a round of proofing is
something for you to decide to act upon or not, as the designer.
I confess to getting overboard with the "2VPs" thingie... but
the rest of the feedback I posted was done only with the intent
of shortening/decluttering the variants section of the ADCs,
something I understood you were ok with. I have no intent to
petition every week for a redo of the ADC collection; believe
me, they're starting to make my eyes glaze over, too!
So, if it's ok with you, I offer to complete my ADC feedback
with the Supremacy, Early and Late War sets this weekend, and to
gladly do an ultimate proofing pass on the updated ADCs once you
post them to make sure no unwanted errors did creep in. In the
meantime, I'll go on with my next assignment, the Eagles
materials.
Again, I'm really sorry for the overzealousness and the increase
of the stress level around me... Not my intent at all, but I
should have been aware of the possibility of it happening.
#Post#: 1732--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 15, 2019, 4:48 pm
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I don’t want to be tough on you, Vincent, because the work you
do is brilliant, and I know it comes from a good place of
perfecting the game. I honestly appreciate it.
However, I know I am the weak link here, having to wrangle the
Illustrator files. There is a very real danger I can slip-up
badly each time I make a revision. The bigger the revision (say,
moving a whole section around) the bigger the potential error.
I’m just getting to a point where I’m getting paranoid that a
major error will creep in to a late revision. At some point we
have to say ‘stop’ and only fix typos and major inconsistencies
in presentation.
After this round, that’s what I want to do with the ADCs. I’ll
have to start rejecting some changes and suggestions, simply
because at some point I must kick this out the door without
screwing up. And previous experience tells me how damned easy it
is to screw up when fixing even the tiniest typo.
#Post#: 1743--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: Vincent Lefavrais Date: February 16, 2019, 6:49 am
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[quote author=Lee Brimmicombe-Wood link=topic=37.msg1732#msg1732
date=1550270891]
However, I know I am the weak link here, having to wrangle the
Illustrator files. There is a very real danger I can slip-up
badly each time I make a revision. The bigger the revision (say,
moving a whole section around) the bigger the potential error.
I’m just getting to a point where I’m getting paranoid that a
major error will creep in to a late revision. At some point we
have to say ‘stop’ and only fix typos and major inconsistencies
in presentation.
After this round, that’s what I want to do with the ADCs. I’ll
have to start rejecting some changes and suggestions, simply
because at some point I must kick this out the door without
screwing up. And previous experience tells me how damned easy it
is to screw up when fixing even the tiniest typo.
[/quote]
I wasn't aware of the major hassle that seems to be modifying
the ADC in Illustrator files; I only work in Word, and all you
have to do is cut and paste a moving section... But now that you
mention it, I remember my brief experience with Illustrator in a
far, far away past and that reminds me that working in
Illustrator is much more involved than that. I quite understand
your point, I assure you.
Again, rest assured that I don't intend to keep getting back to
the ADCs. After my proofing of the Supremacy and Early/Late War
ADCs, you won't get any more changes or suggestions from me.
There are other things to do.
And when time comes for you to tackle Bomber Barons, I'll be on
the bandwagon from the get go. This will make life easier for
everyone ;)
#Post#: 1747--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 16, 2019, 10:53 am
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To be honest, it’s not much different from managing text in
Word. It’s just that when you’re handling lots of small changes,
and those changes involve rearranging text rather than patching
it up, all it takes is a small mistake in cutting and pasting
and you can find yourself removing text you didn’t want to
remove. It’s more the volume of change than the trickiness of
the software.
I'll be releasing proofs of the Victories and Eagles ADCs soon,
and they will need proofing. But it has to be fixes rather than
overhauls from here on in.
#Post#: 1749--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 16, 2019, 11:28 am
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Announcement
I have just posted the ADC files for Victories, Eagles and Blitz
to dropbox.
The Blitz ADCs are not in urgent need of checking. However, it's
all hands on deck for the Victories and Eagles ADCs, which are
soon going into publication. Please can everyone grab and print
the latest files and give them a look over and post any feedback
here. Let's make sure they are error-free before they go to
print.
#Post#: 1784--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: Vincent Lefavrais Date: February 17, 2019, 10:27 am
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Lee,
Please see the attached file for "default card data
reorganisation" feedback on the Early War, Supremacy, and Late
War ADCs.
#Post#: 1911--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 25, 2019, 4:45 am
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A question for Petr: the S-328 ADC has the name 'Šmolík'. Is
there an English translation of this name?
#Post#: 1926--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 27, 2019, 2:11 am
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Urp. Just doing some research today and I realise that the Spit
Mk.IX ADC in Supremacy probably needs to have the
Packard-engined Mk.XVI added to it as an option, complete with
bubble canopy.
Also, on the Spit XIV ADC, the Mk.21 onwards should have a
firepower of 3 (it carried four 20mm). The F.24 should have ATGR
ability.
#Post#: 1928--------------------------------------------------
Re: ADCs
By: pilotofficerprune Date: February 27, 2019, 2:47 am
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Note to self:
The gun power for the NS-23 with the depowered 23x115R round is:
162
So, 4 x NS-23 = 648
3 x NS-23 = 468
There's a case for rating the four-gun installation at Firepower
3 by rounding up, while treating the three-gun installation as
Firepower 2.
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