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#Post#: 338--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: pilotofficerprune Date: October 9, 2018, 2:42 am
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Oops! Good catch on the special rule typo.
The mean VP output is currently 10, though this is skewed by
earlier playthroughs.
#Post#: 344--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: Elias Nordling Date: October 9, 2018, 2:27 pm
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Budapest Version 0.5 playtest
Player: Elias (Solo)
Another runthrough. The Hungarian fighters managed to down one
bomber and disrupt 2 squadrons, together with 4 P38:s for 4
Me109 ans 4 Me210 losses. A net gain of +3 on points in the air
combat for the Hungarians. It was up to the flak to do the rest,
and they were wildly successful. In the end, all but one bomber
group was disrupted, and 2 more bombers were lost to flak. The
flak result alone was enough to win the game for the Hungarians.
Score:
US: Bombing 8, 4 BF109, 4 Me210; 18
Hungary: 3 B24, 4 P38: 15
Total Score 3: Massive Hungarian win
Comments: I'm a little concerned that the Flak alone might do
enough damage to the bombers on average for a Hungarian win,
making the air combat irrelevant. I used the front flak for
barrage this time and the rear for direct fire. a quick and
dirty calculation gives 20 flak rolls on the bombers, of which 6
are direct fire, before they drop bombs. Disregarding bomber
losses , that's roughly an average of 2 disruptions. Probably at
least one lost aircraft on average too, if you include parting
shots by the flak. That alone would be enough to take the result
down to 11 for the US. This suggests 11 should be an US win.
Oh, and I just noticed the scoring intervals don't match up.
#Post#: 345--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: pilotofficerprune Date: October 10, 2018, 3:06 am
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I know it would alter the calculus quite a bit, but do we want
to shave the flak down, possibly by one or more of the
following:
(a) Removing one flak unit (the rightmost), and balancing this
by increasing the effectiveness of the other flak unit (maybe to
Hvy Flak C?).
(b) Forcing the flak to only fire barrage.
(c) Reducing the effectiveness of all flak down to Heavy Flak A.
#Post#: 348--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: Elias Nordling Date: October 10, 2018, 3:24 am
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I thought of forcing barrage myself. In my first playthrough I
used only barrage out of laziness. In the second I went for a
mix, which probably contributed significantly to the higher
result.
#Post#: 351--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: Okmed Date: October 10, 2018, 5:58 am
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E16 Battle Over Budapest v0.5 editorial stuff
In Special Rule 2, "Japanese player" should read "American
player".
Should "+11 to +13.5 Draw" be "+11 to +11.5 Draw"? Or is the win
value wrong?
Do you want to underline "Me 210Ca-1" since it's a variant on
the back of the ADC, even though there are no game differences
from the Me 210A-1?
(edit: Elias mentions a couple of these.)
#Post#: 352--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: pilotofficerprune Date: October 10, 2018, 7:28 am
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As a rule, I only underline where a variant represents a
difference from the front of the ADC.
#Post#: 359--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: pilotofficerprune Date: October 12, 2018, 5:55 pm
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Okay, the only change for the next release is to turn both flak
units into Hvy Flak A and to limit them to barrage fire.
#Post#: 363--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: Elias Nordling Date: October 14, 2018, 12:54 pm
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What about the error in VPs?
#Post#: 364--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: pilotofficerprune Date: October 15, 2018, 2:49 am
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Yes, I have to correct that. Treat the American victory as 14 VP
or more.
#Post#: 365--------------------------------------------------
Re: E16 Battle Over Budapest
By: Elias Nordling Date: October 15, 2018, 3:33 am
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In that case, the Flak alone is probably enough to ensure a
draw.
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