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       ⛔ [DENIED] Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: SsjZnaKer
       Date: December 29, 2024, 2:15 pm
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       Your In-game nick:SsjZnaKer
       Past nicks:SnaKer
       Age:19
       Discord ID:ssjznaker
       Timezone:(GMT-4)
       Time since you started playing VC-MP:2020
       Have you joined any clan before? (if yes, why did you leave
       them?):yes I have been in clans before, I have left them due to
       inactivity or lack of time. Not only that, in some I have not
       met the majority of players and some have not wanted me in their
       clan so I have preferred not to bother them and leave others.
       The reasons are because they do not help their family in wars
       that need it because they are friends, which I see as wrong
       since a clan mate must help his clan mate, also because these
       clans do not listen to their members when they tell them
       something. It's wrong or they don't see their progress and help
       towards the clan and some members argue with their clan mates
       reaching the point of fighting among themselves which should not
       happen
       Why do you want to be a part of Ace Wolves Family?:I want to
       join ac3 because I know most of the members and I have been
       fighting alongside them for the last few days in ac. I had
       problems with lederhos for a while but in the end they were
       resolved thanks to the fact that he is a mature person and
       decided to leave those problems behind. I also decided to forget
       that and be friends with him. Currently I get along very well
       with all the members of ac3 that I know and I think there is no
       better place to go also because I like the fact that ac3 does
       not accept any player from what I have seen, not only skills
       matter here
       Are you interested to play clanwars/events?:yes
       What could you bring to our clan?:I can help in wars and help
       create huds with my friend creeps and make the clan more famous
       with my advertising
       Additonal Info (Optional).:Well, I apologize for the problems
       caused in the past, I have made mistakes like everyone else and
       I try to improve every day, whatever your decision, I will
       accept it.
       #Post#: 192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: Lederhos
       Date: December 29, 2024, 4:13 pm
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       Hey Znaker, glad to see you here! Your application is currently
       being discussed. Before continuing, I have two things that I
       want to talk to you about:
       1st. Your departure from u1. Although u1 no longer exists, your
       departure from that clan was very controversial. You didn't send
       a message to me, you blocked me, and didn't give a reason as to
       why you were leaving. After that, you attacked us and joined
       forces with R3V along with Paige, which left a very sour taste
       in my mouth because I don't remember being bad to you during
       your whole stay in u1. In fact, I remember I was very nice to
       you when you stayed in u1 and I tried to help you become a
       better player as much as I could. That felt like a betrayal, so
       what can you say about that? How can I be sure that won't happen
       again?
       2nd. How do I know that your interest in joining us is genuine?
       Not long ago you were constantly flaming Ac3 members when you
       were F2. That stopped once you left them of course. But what
       makes us believe you changed your view so drastically about Ac3?
       Good luck with your application! It's going to be an interesting
       one!
       #Post#: 193--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: SsjZnaKer
       Date: December 29, 2024, 5:06 pm
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       Well, lederhos, you are absolutely right about my departure from
       u1. It was because I let myself be fooled by R3v since you were
       very good friends. I didn't understand the fight that occurred
       between both clans, which is why I left. Yes, it's true that I
       blocked you and attacked you. I'm sorry. Having done that, I
       didn't know the faces of the people I was helping and I'm really
       sorry I should have stayed in u1 and helped you but I was an
       idiot more than anything it was because of the amount of
       problems I had, they attacked me everywhere and my pc didn't
       help me defend myself after a while I stopped playing vcmp for 1
       year when I came back I didn't know much about vcmp currently I
       thought you hated me for what had happened and r3v told me that
       you were a spiteful person so I said well here attacking him
       until my friend frewp told me that you didn't want problems or
       anything like that and reading your version here it does seem
       pretty crazy what I did but at that time I used to believe in
       everything what people told me and I ended up making mistakes
       about f2 I returned to vcmp and I wanted to join f2 because of
       my friend nassim I wanted to play with him but nassim wasn't
       there also once in f2 the members used to argue and didn't pay
       attention to what I was saying Its members said the way they
       deserved it. When I left f2, I told them it was because they
       didn't listen to me or value me. Plus, I learned that I can't be
       in a place where everyone hates my friend, I have to always be
       with my friends, that's why I'm very sorry for what happened in
       u1, it was a big mistake, really, everyone wrote to me saying
       bad things about lederhos and from so many messages, I believed
       it, especially mixer And like a blind person, believing in them,
       I got to the point of believing that you hated me a lot and
       that's why I attacked you that way. I did it so as not to leave
       you. I really regret it and you were right to attack me after
       having done that, I didn't have a clear path back then I didn't
       really know what I wanted now I'm applying because I really want
       to be part of this team and I don't care who attacks us or who
       our enemy is because all my friends are here in f2 it's true
       attack sometimes I did it3 but it was because I really believed
       that you hated me incredibly until frewp told me that you had no
       problem with me I stopped attacking and bothering them in fact
       I'm sure you realized that one day I started to talk to you
       normally that's why
       #Post#: 195--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: Lederhos
       Date: December 29, 2024, 7:28 pm
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       --- Quote from: SsjZnaKer link ---
       >
       > Well, lederhos, you are absolutely right about my departure
       from u1. It was because I let myself be fooled by R3v since you
       were very good friends. I didn't understand the fight that
       occurred between both clans, which is why I left. Yes, it's true
       that I blocked you and attacked you. I'm sorry. Having done
       that, I didn't know the faces of the people I was helping and
       I'm really sorry I should have stayed in u1 and helped you but I
       was an idiot more than anything it was because of the amount of
       problems I had, they attacked me everywhere and my pc didn't
       help me defend myself after a while I stopped playing vcmp for 1
       year when I came back I didn't know much about vcmp currently I
       thought you hated me for what had happened and r3v told me that
       you were a spiteful person so I said well here attacking him
       until my friend frewp told me that you didn't want problems or
       anything like that and reading your version here it does seem
       pretty crazy what I did but at that time I used to believe in
       everything what people told me and I ended up making mistakes
       about f2 I returned to vcmp and I wanted to join f2 because of
       my friend nassim I wanted to play with him but nassim wasn't
       there also once in f2 the members used to argue and didn't pay
       attention to what I was saying Its members said the way they
       deserved it. When I left f2, I told them it was because they
       didn't listen to me or value me. Plus, I learned that I can't be
       in a place where everyone hates my friend, I have to always be
       with my friends, that's why I'm very sorry for what happened in
       u1, it was a big mistake, really, everyone wrote to me saying
       bad things about lederhos and from so many messages, I believed
       it, especially mixer And like a blind person, believing in them,
       I got to the point of believing that you hated me a lot and
       that's why I attacked you that way. I did it so as not to leave
       you. I really regret it and you were right to attack me after
       having done that, I didn't have a clear path back then I didn't
       really know what I wanted now I'm applying because I really want
       to be part of this team and I don't care who attacks us or who
       our enemy is because all my friends are here in f2 it's true
       attack sometimes I did it3 but it was because I really believed
       that you hated me incredibly until frewp told me that you had no
       problem with me I stopped attacking and bothering them in fact
       I'm sure you realized that one day I started to talk to you
       normally that's why
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I understand perfectly. What's in the past is in the past, and
       hopefully those situations won't happen again.
       I have another question for you, what would you do if you were
       accepted, but your friend Frewp isn't?
       #Post#: 198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: SsjZnaKer
       Date: December 29, 2024, 8:23 pm
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       If I don't accept my frewp friend I will stay in ac3 helping him
       anyway and he will probably reapply in 3 months and the same if
       they deny me[attachimg=1]
       #Post#: 200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: Lederhos
       Date: December 30, 2024, 1:16 pm
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       Just as I told Frewp, I would like to know what you think about
       this as well
       Recently, we had a situation where one of our members was caught
       disrespecting hard one of the religions that our clan members
       practice. This member was kicked and following his kick, two
       more members decided to leave the clan stating that they had no
       reason to stay because their friend was kicked, even though it
       was their friend who made this mistake. We understand
       connections between friends, but this is not what we are looking
       for. We are looking for loyal members who want to interact with
       all kind of people from different cultures and meet new fellas.
       Do you think this is what you want by joining us? We have a very
       solid family because everyone knows everyone and whenever
       possible, they interact with each other even if they know little
       about each other.
       #Post#: 202--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: SsjZnaKer
       Date: December 30, 2024, 1:38 pm
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       Regarding that, it is very good that you mention it. I also want
       to clarify that if my friends get into trouble by disrespecting
       the members or fighting or breaking the rules of the clan and
       they are expelled, I will not follow them because I do not
       intend to make the same mistakes as them, yes. The clan accepts
       me because it really loves me and leaving because of a friend's
       tantrum is very idiotic of me and false towards the clan to
       leave following it, so I won't be in the clan just because of my
       friend, I'll be there because I want to be. in ac3 and
       representing the clan the consequences of his actions will
       depend on him but in my case I am not going to make that mistake
       #Post#: 204--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: Lederhos
       Date: December 30, 2024, 8:40 pm
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       Now, regarding activity. Although the clan is somewhat active
       right now (a few of us play), we sometimes have long inactivity
       periods. For example, before Vice War X, none of us was around
       for 4 months more or less. That's a common trend within the
       clan. Are you willing to stay even in those situations where
       other members are completely inactive?
       #Post#: 205--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: SsjZnaKer
       Date: December 30, 2024, 9:26 pm
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       Yes, there is no problem with that, we all have a life and we
       must dedicate time to it but when they are active it will be
       great, the rest I have no problem with that I am used to playing
       alone but when the reinforcements arrive it is great so there is
       no problem in which they are inactive one day they will enter
       #Post#: 207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Application - SsjZnaKer
   DIR By: Lederhos
       Date: January 7, 2025, 1:28 am
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       After a thorough discussion and extremely unbalanced voting
       results (you had around 80% of positive votes, which is
       incredible!), we have denied your application, SsjZnaKer. Now,
       I'll inform you about the positive aspects and areas of
       improvement that we discussed in your application in case you
       are still interested in joining us in the future.
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       Here, I'll mention the positive things that we discussed about
       you.
       - You have a very positive relationship with almost the entire
       clan, which is an undeniably great sign to consider. That means
       you and our clan have a lot of chemistry that can be displayed
       on the battlefield, but also in other areas of communication.
       That's amazing!
       - Skill-wise you are definitely a really good player. That is
       something we are absolutely looking for in here!
       - You are pretty active and that also adds up to the positive
       things that we found from you. That has helped you interact with
       some of our members and create bonds with them.
       - Your regret for the actions that you did in the past is
       greatly appreciated. We need mature people that accept their
       mistakes and try to fix them. That's a great point for you!
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       Now, here are some of the areas of improvement that we
       considered while discussing your application.
       - Now, this is certainly something that some of us agreed on.
       Your loyalty. We don't really know what to expect from you since
       your clan record doesn't speak positively about you. Your stint
       in TDA was probably the longest you had. Other than that, your
       stays in u1, F2, ON, and KF have been considerably short. Your
       record speaks for itself, you haven't been loyal to the clans
       you have been a part of and loyalty is one of our core values.
       We don't want people coming and going constantly, on the
       contrary, we want a solid core of members who want to remain in
       the clan for a long time, if not forever, even if it sounds
       ambitious.
       - Your past story with u1. Although we have left what happened
       in the past, the way you treated us still resonates because that
       was a perfect example of a betrayal. You can't make foes with
       the people who helped you and tried to only do good things for
       you, just as you did with us. "Cría cuervos y te sacarán los
       ojos" as they say in Spanish is a perfect example of what you
       did, and the worst part is, there was no reason at all to do
       that. As I said, all those things are in the past and we can
       write a new chapter together, but opening our doors immediately
       and acting as if nothing happened would make us an unserious
       clan, and from what you and Frewp have said, you want a serious
       clan and most importantly, a family, just like Ac3 is.
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       Overall, it was an interesting application to discuss given how
       many things have changed in recent times and how all of us have
       grown up even more. You have a new computer, and you are a
       different player from who you were in the past. I am really
       happy with your progress, and whether you continue interested in
       joining the clan or not, you know you've got a lot of friends
       here in case you need a hand. Also, if you still have any
       interest in joining the clan, I recommend you to send me a
       private message on my Discord, I think we should talk.
       Thanks for the interest, brother!
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