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       #Post#: 147--------------------------------------------------
       I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Frank
       Date: January 31, 2016, 8:45 pm
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       I was one of the first who hated Aaron, and I as an admin, was
       not able to make the others see why. I knew I should have argued
       to have Aaron banned after those three things that he did
       (things that I would have him permabanned for, not giving him a
       fourth chance like Oasis).
       Sorry guys, but frankly, I failed.
       #Post#: 148--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Esther
       Date: January 31, 2016, 8:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: Frank link ---
       >
       > I was one of the first who hated Aaron, and I as an admin, was
       not able to make the others see why. I knew I should have argued
       to have Aaron banned after those three things that he did
       (things that I would have him permabanned for, not giving him a
       fourth chance like Oasis).
       >
       > Sorry guys, but frankly, I failed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I banned Aaron over 20 times.
       #Post#: 149--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Frank
       Date: January 31, 2016, 8:49 pm
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       --- Quote from: Esther link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Frank link=topic=26.msg147#msg147
       date=1454294732]
       > I was one of the first who hated Satan's Butthole, and I as an
       admin, was not able to make the others see why. I knew I should
       have argued to have Satan's Butthole banned after those three
       things that he did (things that I would have him permabanned
       for, not giving him a fourth chance like Oasis).
       >
       > Sorry guys, but frankly, I failed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I banned Satan's Butthole over 20 times.
       [/quote]
       I mean a permaban. Not a joke ban. But that can't be done
       without consensus (or it can be reversed). I just felt that the
       time I was arguing for a permaban I didn't do a good enough job.
       Hence, the schism that was created because of all this.
       #Post#: 151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Esther
       Date: January 31, 2016, 8:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: Frank link ---
       >
       > I mean a permaban. Not a joke ban. But that can't be done
       without consensus (or it can be reversed). I just felt that the
       time I was arguing for a permaban I didn't do a good enough job.
       Hence, the schism that was created because of all this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We never did Skype.  And Dylan hasn't been around in days.  And
       now, we have a group divided again.  The group is falling
       apart...and we're letting a retarded hobbit like Aaron do it.
       Isn't that kind of sad?  That we let the biggest, most annoying
       moron among us tear us apart?
       #Post#: 152--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Frank
       Date: January 31, 2016, 8:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Esther link ---
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       > [quote author=Frank link=topic=26.msg149#msg149
       date=1454294962]
       > I mean a permaban. Not a joke ban. But that can't be done
       without consensus (or it can be reversed). I just felt that the
       time I was arguing for a permaban I didn't do a good enough job.
       Hence, the schism that was created because of all this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We never did Skype.  And Dylan hasn't been around in days.  And
       now, we have a group divided again.  The group is falling
       apart...and we're letting a retarded hobbit like Satan's
       Butthole do it.  Isn't that kind of sad?  That we let the
       biggest, most annoying moron among us tear us apart?
       [/quote]
       Whatever, this is ridiculous. Either way, I just don't give a
       shit about this situation anymore. I'm tired of having to deal
       with fucking assholes who literally threatens us. If it happens
       here, give no second chances, the rules are clear the first
       time. Reform is idiotic for a forum that discusses topics about
       film. We shouldn't have to burden ourselves with trying to
       reform cunts like it (Satan's Butthole).
       Hope you guys actually do that and not waste time on deciding to
       try to be high and mighty.
       #Post#: 153--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Cobbwell
       Date: January 31, 2016, 9:00 pm
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       Treet is acting like we're sending the kid to the guillotine.
       It's an Internet forum.  The kid has no morals as shown by his
       comments, so we should not give him the same benefit.
       #Post#: 154--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Andrew Milito
       Date: January 31, 2016, 9:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: Cobbwell link ---
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       > Treet is acting like we're sending the kid to the guillotine.
       It's an Internet forum.  The kid has no morals as shown by his
       comments, so we should not give him the same benefit.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He implied that he thinks his opinion is stronger than the
       consensus' (i.e. ours) over Skype, so I don't care what he
       thinks anymore. Such a pretentious thing to say.
       #Post#: 155--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Frank
       Date: January 31, 2016, 9:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: Cobbwell link ---
       >
       > Treet is acting like we're sending the kid to the guillotine.
       It's an Internet forum.  The kid has no morals as shown by his
       comments, so we should not give him the same benefit.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's childish and dumb. If it was a year or two ago, Treet would
       have happily agreed. Now it seems he's above all of us because
       he has "morals" and "principles" and "logic". Get the fuck out
       of here, man.
       Seemed I had no say when Aaron was given that fourth chance back
       in Oasis.
       #Post#: 156--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Cobbwell
       Date: January 31, 2016, 9:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: Andrew Milito link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Cobbwell link=topic=26.msg153#msg153
       date=1454295645]
       > Treet is acting like we're sending the kid to the guillotine.
       It's an Internet forum.  The kid has no morals as shown by his
       comments, so we should not give him the same benefit.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He implied that he thinks his opinion is stronger than the
       consensus' (i.e. ours) over Skype, so I don't care what he
       thinks anymore. Such a pretentious thing to say.
       [/quote]
       I mean, I respect and love Treet still, but all he has to do is
       let Braden ban Aaron.  He doesn't have to feel bad.
       --- Quote from: Frank link ---
       >
       >
       > It's childish and dumb. If it was a year or two ago, Treet
       would have happily agreed. Now it seems he's above all of us
       because he has "morals" and "principles" and "logic". Get the
       fuck out of here, man.
       >
       > Seemed I had no say when Satan's Butthole was given that
       fourth chance back in Oasis.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Here, the majority rules.  This is the real Oasis.
       #Post#: 157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I feel like I failed you all
   DIR By: Andrew Milito
       Date: January 31, 2016, 9:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: Frank link ---
       >
       > Seemed I had no say when Satan's Butthole was given that
       fourth chance back in Oasis.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This might be opening a whole new can of worms, but nobody has
       really had a say in anything since Oasis was first started.
       Nobody decided a second forum was necessary after the movie
       tournament debacle, except Dylan. Nobody voted for admins, Dylan
       picked them himself (I guess?). And when the majority agreed
       that Satan's Butthole had reached the final straw, who opposed
       the majority? The self-imposed admins.
       This is that pseudo-political bullshit I've been talking about.
       It's kind of turning me off of the idea of forums in general,
       mostly depending on how this plays out in the next few days. I'd
       much rather just get everyone on Skype (even those that can't
       could just text chat with us), that way there's no need for
       childish infighting about banning people and all this other
       garbage. Don't want to have to deal with someone? Don't put them
       in the call.
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