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Re: HARD kit 700RR
By: Winna Date: October 29, 2014, 10:55 pm
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Ha ha Rusty, your telling me.
Market share mate is what I've been told, and BMW has it, 80%
plus of the Adventure market, bet Mr KTM wished he gave "The
Long Way Round" boys a couple of KTMs when they asked for them!
Adventure riding is snowballing globally thanks to the long way
round and its such a pity so many guys that want to experience
it think that they should be on a BMW, they are riding big heavy
pigs without the same riding pleasure experienced on a more
nimble bike, be that a DR650 or KTM 690.
Of course they carry everything plus the kitchen sink to make
the bike even more unrideable, each to their own I spose.
Keep it light as possible I say, a swag, a change of jocks and
socks, a quart cup and a camelback and a couple of cans of
chunky stew and I'm set for adventure, the only time you need to
head for a town is for fuel, piss and more cans of stew!!
Thanks mate
Darren
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Re: HARD kit 700RR
By: Richo360 Date: October 30, 2014, 12:11 am
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Hey all, was on the phone to Winna last night and he asked me to
stick up a post or two as an owner of this kit to give my
feedback.
As the previous owner of an 07 640adv with a few mods, I was
looking for something newer to get around on. the old girl was
good, but clunky, fat, and old school, which isnt always a bad
thing I guess..
I had eyed off rally raid UK kits for a while, and also looked
closely at a few other options before the HARD kit appeared
online and in a few local magazines, and I was won. What really
swayed my decision was the fuel capacity, where its carried, and
it being a local producer.
A clean 690r was sourced from a mate who upgraded, and the kit
purchased from Winna- what really impressed me was the ease of
fitment and quality of parts. The most fiddly bit was battery
and electrical removal to access the fuel pump and sender etc
from the rear tank, to be relocated to the front RH tank.
Everything else was a bolt on, or plug in.
Note this is the 'series 1' kit that was first released..... the
later one (in Winna's pic above) has had some relatively minor
changes and upgrades.
After some 5000+ km's now I have had zero issues- nothing rubs,
nothing has broken, nothing has moved.
What I started with: an '09, but with '12 suspension, Wings
muffler, heated grips, '12 plastic
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After the conversion, which took around 16 hours all up at my
own plodding pace
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In answer to some of the questions above:
The panniers are made by Winna's associate, Craig Hartley of
Dalby Moto in Queensland..... compared to almost every other set
of pannier frames, they carry the weight further forward and
lower, which is good for weight distribution and to get the
stress off the rear tank. The frames connect to both upper and
lower rear peg mounts too for strength.
Ive added a white front guard as I liked that look. A personal
thing. In a similar manner, 1 1/4" bar risers and Pastrana bend
Pro tapers feel a lot better, esp when standing.
I added a 6" Aurora lightbar for better offroad vision- that
said, the 2 x Hella Projecta lights with the kit are about a
100% improvement over the stock KTM lamp.
In terms of suspension, the front forks were revalved as stock I
found they were really harsh over smaller stuff, in the initial
movement of the stroke. I added 6.0 WP springs, and the rear was
left unchanged but with a 220 /90 spring. I weigh about 200lbs-
say 215 with all my gear and this set up nails it. Motor
unchanged, but Ive recently put a Evo airbox lid on and a
Unifilter for better breathing.
It shows great balance... I love this thing in sand, even with
panniers loaded. Fuel range is around 550kms / 350 miles.
Compared to a 'stock' 690r, the forward and low fuel load means
it climbs hills far easier, with the front sticking to the
ground.
The only negative I found is i cooked my KTM Rally pants on the
exhaust trying to hook the sidestand down with my foot- will
weld a loop onto the stand for easier access, and the pants have
been patched with suede leather on the inner calf area.
Any further questions, ask away.
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Re: HARD kit 700RR
By: Guymcfly Date: October 30, 2014, 2:58 am
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[quote Nah mate, haven't changed the gear set, although first
does seem a bit tall for the technical riding.[/quote]
I don't find the 15/45 too tall even for really gnarly stuff.
The bike has enough grunt to lug itself out of anything with a
little clutch and throttle control. As a buddy of mine is often
saying, "if it's to tall for tight single and moonscape, you
ain't riding fast enough!"
I mean more for the highway sections which inevitably arise when
one starts adventure riding as opposed to trail riding. I find
6th just to low to even consider using this bike as an adv
beast. I don't think Ktm meant it to be adv'd with its trans
spread.
As too whether they were ever going to release a proper adv
version, I have my doubts. I think the brand never sold enough
of the 640 (in global terms) to warrant going that way again. I
really think they decided to stick with what they do best,
enduro, mx, and rallye machines with a nod to street machines,
mostly for the Euro market.
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Re: HARD kit 700RR
By: Guymcfly Date: October 31, 2014, 8:12 am
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I gotta say tho', that's a smokin' looking bike...
#Post#: 2139--------------------------------------------------
Price and Availability? Re: HARD kit 700RR
By: 3Rrr Date: November 25, 2014, 2:30 pm
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What is the kit weight, and weight installed and fueled?
Is the kit available for purchase and delivery to the US? The
FB page was fairly limited in information?
I'd be interested in hearing more, including if the kit is all
inclusive with luggage pannier's, skid plate, etc.
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Re: HARD kit 700RR
By: Winna Date: November 25, 2014, 5:06 pm
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Good morning 3Rrr, the kits have been under development to this
stage for almost two years now and with the new series 2 we have
made a number of improvements and streamlined our manufacturing
techniques.
the kit we fitted to the bike comes in around 150 kilos, taking
into account the original parts that get removed, with a fuel
capacity of 30 litres, but that doesn't mean you have to ride
the bike full of fuel all the time, the standard 12 litre tank
quite often can be enough for day ride, and the benefit with the
fuel tanks is if you put 12-15 litres in the bike all the weight
is forward and low down near your feet.
The kits come complete, other than the pannier rack and rear
carrier rack, which is a must in my opinion if your going to put
a decent load on, as they add strength to the subframe/tank and
are simply the best rack available for the 690 bar none and are
designed to carry the load further forward centralising the
weight for better handling.
The kit comes with all the wiring looms required to move the
headlights the reserve sender the fuel pump and spare
accessories power
Complete fairing and dash assembly
All mounting bracket for the fairing tanks and bash plate
Low exhaust and bracket
2 @ 9 litre fuel tanks complete with removable crash guards
Bash plate and navigation tower assembly complete.
The kits are a complete bolt on unit with no cutting or welding
required or mechanical changes to the bike.
They are and will be available internationally early next year,
we are fulfilling and order of 20 now for Australian customers.
The demand has been overwhelming to date and we are working
around the clock to keep up with production, thus the lack of a
web page.
If you have any questions please shoot me an email
darren@hardkits.com and I will be more than happy to answer any
questions.
Thank you Darren
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