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       Using a Smartphone as a GPS
       By: DaveKubler Date: September 3, 2014, 7:42 pm
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       **Hey all, Rusty here.  I thought this topic was worthy of it's
       own thread.  Thanks to DaveKubler and others who have already
       contributed.  Rusty out.**
       Hey guys.   So, I just happened upon this discussion and thought
       I would share my personal experience.   You do NOT need a
       dedicated GPS unit such as a Garmin...  Most people these days
       own a smartphone.....but even if you don't , I will tell you why
       this is a better solution.
       Common misconception...  Smartphones (Android/Iphones) aren't
       a GPS device, they use cell towers for signal....not satellites.
       This is absolutely not true.  They use cell towers to transmit
       and receive data, such as text/phone calls/internet. ....
       Every modern smartphone has a dedicated GPS receiver
       (remember..GPS doesn't transmit anything out from your device,
       unless you have an emergency SPOT device...is just RECEIVES
       satellite positions.)  So, you can effectively turn your
       smartphone in AIRPLANE mode...shutting off cell tower
       communication, yet you STILL will be able to locate yourself via
       your phones GPS receiver.  Here is the catch..Google Maps, and
       most other programs utilize cell signal to keep the base layer
       MAP for you...
       I am not versed in the options for Iphones, but I ASSURE you
       there are a few to choose from that will allow all of this....
       I am an Android guy...
       You can do everything I am saying here....with a smartphone WITH
       NO PAID CELL SERVICE hooked up with it....they all have WIFI, or
       just dump your files in it via a USB to a PC....very easy.  you
       can just take the phone to a starbucks, and load whatever
       youwant on it.
       The Android App OsMand+   (there is a free version, but is so
       cheap and worth it...)  is about 5 bucks..     It allows you to
       PREdownload full state maps, with contour and/or hillshade
       options...  has maps from every country...etc..  there is NO
       charge for maps, nor updating them (which it basically reminds
       you when needed).
       This app has WAY more features, much easier to use...is VOICE
       NAVIGATION ....offline (middle of NO cell service..)....it also
       does tracking of your track to GPS, for sharing or later
       following, it has a LIVE feed function (that DOES require to be
       in cell service)... you can easily spot places on the map, then
       have it navigate you there.   You can take existing GPX tracks
       and dump them in  to follow at any point in the future...you can
       put more then one track in at a time..
       As far as creating tracks from a map that you might want to
       follow later... .you can easily do that on many sites on line
       now..  the one I use is MapMyRide.
       The better phones these days have some pretty cool features...
       I use my MAIN phone for my GPS, I have for over 20,000 miles on
       some pretty gnarly offroad.   The new Samsung Galaxy S5 is
       waterproof...dustproof....with no case.  I use a RAM X-grip with
       a arm and ball....     If you HAD to buy a smartphone for no
       other purpose but your bikes GPS, you could pick up an older
       NOTE (at least with wifi), dont get service on it.....get an
       otterbox for it...load the app via wifi...whatever else ya
       want...heck, load MUSIC in it to listen to...its a freaking mini
       computer with you ...   you could accomplish this for PENNIES
       compared to what they rape you for with the Garmins.... and I
       have had SO many frustrated Garmin people just be amazed at how
       well my system works....   people have thanked me, cause they
       used the money they save to buy other gear :)
       I have spent countless hours researching and trying all of the
       options out there...  I am a fanatic.   (thats how I wound up
       with a 690 )
       Get with me if you are interested, but have questions.
       If not, and you just want to stick with the whole Garmin thing
       (the whole industry is a buzz about the switch from dedicated
       GPS to smartphones)...   Thats cool :)    There is no doubt in
       my mind what is best for me.
       #Post#: 3267--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Using a Smartphone as a GPS
       By: Milesofsmiles Date: November 14, 2015, 7:56 pm
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       One reason I would hesitate using a smart phone for a GPS on
       the bike is because they're fragile. Second reason I would
       hesitate is because they're all touch control. I like the GPS
       that has buttons on it because when you have gloves on, touch
       control does not work worth a damn and you end up switching
       screens when you least want it to happen. Dedicated GPS unites
       99% of the time always work, while smart phones are computers
       that freeze and exhibit other computer problems. Also, smart
       phone power connections are flimsy compared to a good GPS. When
       discussing maps, gps topos are all crap as they all come from
       the same 3rd party vendor who has the exact same mistakes and
       missing roads while smart phones have an much broader choice of
       world wide topo maps. I use my smart phone when off-roading in
       my 4x4 and GPS on my bike. I transfer all tracks, routes,
       campgrounds, beer stops and more between both devices.
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