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#Post#: 1266--------------------------------------------------
Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: NathanHaley Date: June 24, 2014, 10:18 pm
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First of all - I don't believe in bringing up problems with
products until I give their support and retailer the chance to
fix it. I've been in touch with both Uni and KTMtwins a few
times over the past few weeks but they seem to have lost
interest in my case.
The front silo on the air filter bottoms out on the bottom of
the airbox. The filter won't stay mounted flush to the airbox -
it'll pop out because the filter doesn't fit in the box. There's
a gap there that is plenty big for dust to find its way through,
even with proper grease application around the lip of the
filter. It's possible the snorkel/airbox lid will force the
filter down into place, but it will still be bottoming on the
bottom of the airbox and putting a lot of pressure on these
warp-prone components. Anybody else have this problem? Am I
doing something wrong? It looks like the 2014s have different
airboxes than earlier machines, though KTMtwins claims the
filter should fit 2014 bikes...the stock paper filter has
already let some dust into my engine, so I'm hoping to get this
solved. Thanks!
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Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: Rusty Shovel Date: June 25, 2014, 4:17 pm
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I'd like to see some photos of what you're describing, perhaps
THAT would convince UNI that their filter is wrong.
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Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: NathanHaley Date: June 25, 2014, 6:05 pm
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It's hard to photograph - the air filter just pops up wherever
you're not pushing it down like whackamole. I sent KTMtwins a
video as they requested, no response after that.
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Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: NathanHaley Date: July 14, 2014, 9:42 pm
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Update - KTMtwins has removed the 2014 690 Enduro R ABS from the
fitment chart for the air filter. UNI part number US 1417
officially does NOT fit the 2014 - airbox is too shallow. I
ordered UNI AU 1417 and while it still bottoms out on the bottom
of the box, I can cram the lid down without the inserts popping
loose (well, almost - JB weld saved me there) so that's what I
did. I greased the living daylights out of the seams...hope it
works.
#Post#: 1349--------------------------------------------------
Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: bigbikejohn Date: July 14, 2014, 10:59 pm
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Keep us updated on how it seals and works next time you check
it. I know I'm very interested to see how it does. I'm not
comfortable having a one time use paper filter and nothing else
on hand for my 690, since most of its life is spent offroad.
#Post#: 1350--------------------------------------------------
Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: NathanHaley Date: July 14, 2014, 11:25 pm
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[quote author=bigbikejohn link=topic=267.msg1349#msg1349
date=1405396799]
Keep us updated on how it seals and works next time you check
it. I know I'm very interested to see how it does. I'm not
comfortable having a one time use paper filter and nothing else
on hand for my 690, since most of its life is spent offroad.
[/quote]
2 street rides later, the filter is still flat against the lip
of the airbox as best as I can tell. It's hard to see up front
there - I think I'm going to remove my shrouds to triple-check
everything is in ship shape, and then take it offroad. I'll keep
you updated.
One note for installation of AU 1417: It's not easy to get the
lid's tabs to fit into the holes in the airbox because the rim
of the filter extends too high and blocks them. You have to
wiggle the lid in and then and then slot the front of the filter
in after it as best as you can. Someone punch me if I'm the only
one who thinks this is awkward. Maybe a tiny trim of the filter
seal would be in order, if only I had courage for such things.
What I find works best is the following:
1) With the lid and filter removed, insert the filter but don't
push it all the way forward.
2) Push the front of the filter down and below the rim of the
airbox while pulling the filter back gently
3) While holding the front of the filter down, insert the airbox
lid tabs down into their cutouts
4) Push the filter forward and tuck it underneath the tabs
5) Gently insert and tighten the airbox lid screws into their
brass inserts but be careful - it is exceedingly easy to pull
them out of their towers. I was not careful, and therefore I JB
weld.
Pain in the ass for a "drop in" filter, but it seems to work.
It's foam and this material has been tested in some truly dusty
conditions so I know if there's still dust on the inside of my
box when I check it next, I have a leaky airbox or inadequate
oiling or something.
As yet another side note: AU 1417, the orange one (NOT US 1417,
which is black) says on the package it comes pre-oiled. I guess
there's a tiny bit of oil on there. I always wonder if the
pre-oil amount is enough. Is filter oil combustible in teeny
tiny quantities? Is it bad to have too much (it generally ends
up at the bottom of your airbox)? I got some grease on my filter
when I stuffed it in there - is my engine going to grenade? (or
- sometimes I think this almost as bad - just lose power
gradually without me noticing as the piston gets torn up because
of my incompetence?)
Air filters literally keep me up at night - I have work in 6
hours. Why can't they just fit and seal well!?!?! Sheesh...
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Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: bigbikejohn Date: July 15, 2014, 5:24 pm
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As far as the oil goes, I wouldn't worry too much. I get grease
on my kx500 filter all the time and never had an issue. It
generally just sticks wherever you got it until you clean it
again. I've been using no toil oil on my filters, and it's
great. You can wash them in the sink or even a washing machine
on bikes with all foam filters. The main thing with any filter
oil is to just give it time to set up before you ride. Some
bikes get fussy and won't start if you bathe a filter in oil
then slap it straight in and try to go. Spray on oils seem to
set up faster, and the no toil stuff seems to as well.
My solution to this In the past has been to get 2 or 3 filters,
clean and oil them, then when I swap one in, clean and oil the
dirty one, etc etc.
Do the foam bits on the 690 filter come out of the plastic? When
I oil my filters, I usually wring them out pretty well without
twisting them (to prevent premature wear of the stiching) which
also helps make sure the oil is evenly distributed. That may
solve your problem of getting filter oil drips in the air box.
#Post#: 1412--------------------------------------------------
Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: GSP Date: July 24, 2014, 8:15 am
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I installed the K&N, very nice filter and fits perfect
$45.61 + $7.29 shipping
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#Post#: 1511--------------------------------------------------
Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: CaDirtRoads Date: August 5, 2014, 12:12 pm
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Hmm... I'll have to check mine. I got the Uni from KTMTWINS
also...
Randy
#Post#: 2253--------------------------------------------------
Re: Uni air filter not fitting on the 2014s?
By: fasteer Date: December 31, 2014, 6:54 pm
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as of right now, the KTM Twins site lists a UNI-690.
the product details says: * NOTE: Yes, it does fit the 2014 690
Enduro. *
No mention of 2015.
No mention of US1417 or AU1417.
there is a long review by Jack explaining why some folks may
have had fitment issues.
I don't have an opinion one way or the other; just looking for
information.
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