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       #Post#: 1452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: bigbikejohn Date: July 29, 2014, 9:50 pm
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       That's the 1190, which has a much more sofisticated abs system
       than our bikes. Go into a corner as fast as you can handle it on
       the 690 with the ABS on, and let us know how it works out for
       you. Lol. Also, it isn't just about stopping distance offroad.
       There are times, especially on a big bike with less steering
       lock, that rear wheel steering is the fastest and easiest method
       of cornering.
       If you read the article you linked carefully, the 1190 was in
       offroad mode, which disables the rear brake ABS. I've not had
       issues with the front ABS being too aggressive offroad on the
       690, just the rear. In fact, while riding two up down engineer
       last week, I preferred leaving the abs on, as I didn't have to
       worry about losing the front wheel in the rocks with my lady on
       the back nearly as much,  haha.
       #Post#: 1453--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: Dane1960 Date: July 29, 2014, 10:39 pm
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       I will be my last post on the subject, the fact is I have
       grabbed a hand full of ABS controlled brakes on the 690 in deep
       sand, gravel, mud and cornering. I grew up from a kid riding
       dirt and street bikes without ABS. I was just curious as to what
       folks opinions were...looks like instead of getting use to the
       new tech most just turn it off because it's different and they
       don't trust it, an old school frame of mind. Thanks for the
       great comments and opinions! I appreciate the diversity.
       #Post#: 1454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: bigbikejohn Date: July 29, 2014, 10:55 pm
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       Indeed, always good to hear how it works for others. I'm only
       27, and a tech nerd. I come from a dirt bike and racing
       background. I ride (rode) the expert class in oklahoma xc races.
       Mine isn't a fear of the abs it's just that the rear ABS is too
       aggressive for me, offroad. I can't get enough lockup out of it
       to corner properly. However, if the bike came stock with a way
       to enable off road abs, like the 1190, I'd definitely give it
       more time. For me and my offroad riding conditions, I've only
       found a few places I like enabling it. I love having it to play
       with, and to keep me safer in panic situations on the tarmac.
       #Post#: 3021--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: SLAP75 Date: July 27, 2015, 6:56 pm
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       I know the answer is here somewhere, but can someone tell me why
       my abs light is off completely?  I know I hit the buttons on the
       dash at some point, just not sure wtf I did  :-\
       I just want to make sure that there's nothing wrong and that it
       was just user error...  it's a 15, if that makes any
       difference...
       and btw, the abs worked awesome when I had to do a crazy hard
       straight line stop when some clown pulled right out in front of
       me on the street.  haven't had a chance to try it the dirt yet.
       i do ride quite a bit moto strictly on tracks, don't think abs
       would be very helpful at all...
       EDIT: just went and double checked, its on when I start the
       bike, turns off when I drop it in gear and start going..
       #Post#: 3022--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: Colorado Rider Date: July 27, 2015, 10:43 pm
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       The only time that the ABS light comes on is either when you
       start it or if you disengage it and then it will blink - other
       than that, it is off most of the time.
       #Post#: 3023--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: SLAP75 Date: July 28, 2015, 1:36 pm
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       [quote author=Alabama Adventurer link=topic=215.msg3022#msg3022
       date=1438054989]
       The only time that the ABS light comes on is either when you
       start it or if you disengage it and then it will blink - other
       than that, it is off most of the time.
       [/quote]
       ahhh, ok.. I could have sworn mine always stayed on, not
       flashing, but just on.  I haven't had my bike long at all so i'm
       going to assume I was wrong   :D
       thanks for responding, I feel better now  8)
       #Post#: 3032--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: Kingrider Date: July 30, 2015, 8:13 am
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       Just thought I'd weigh in on the ABS discussion. I was in the
       same camp as some others; the rear brake seemed pretty
       ineffective on unpaved surfaces (gravel, dirt , etc.). However
       the front brake was absolutely impressive! This is my first bike
       ('15  690R) with ABS and I wondered how it would work
       off-pavement. I sprang for the KTM Dongle they sell. Now, when I
       fire up and take off riding the ABS light does a slow blink. The
       rear brake will give full power, even to lock up the rear wheel
       if you want. The front wheel is ABS enables. Grab the that front
       brake and STOP!! No drama! Knowing how that front end will
       behave under heavy braking inspires a lot of confidence. We have
       a lot of gravel and dirt in this part of Kansas and I recommend
       this setup to anyone looking at the 690.
       Just my two cents worth. Everyone have a good day.
       
       #Post#: 3035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: Bartlioni Date: August 4, 2015, 1:00 pm
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       Just thought I'd mention that there's a dongle that plugs into
       your instrument cluster that disables ABS even if you power off
       and back on.  Works for 2014.  Don't know about 2015.
       Personally, I'll pull the three fuses if I go for a serious dirt
       ride, but the dongle is an option worth mentioning.  Later.
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       #Post#: 3036--------------------------------------------------
       2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: rednipj Date: August 5, 2015, 6:54 am
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       [quote author=Alabama Adventurer link=topic=215.msg1441#msg1441
       date=1406604561]
       As far as the ABS goes, light dirt use is fine, but as I found
       out a couple of weeks ago, when you get it on a truly big trail
       (like the 717 nearby) and your going down a two or three story
       hill at a 45 degree angle and the engine stalls and then you
       restart it and THEN the ABS kicks back on it ain't cool!
       [/quote]
       This shouldn't happen unless you turn your key off then back on
       to restart..?
       I turn my ABS off on every ride. Driving aggressively off road
       with ABS the rear brake does nothing for me but vibrate under my
       foot. But with my ABS turned off and my bike stalls on me I can
       either dump the clutch or hit the starter button and it fires
       right back up with the ABS still locked out. My ABS only turns
       back on when I turn the key off and back on.
       #Post#: 3037--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2014 690 Front Brakes
       By: Colorado Rider Date: August 5, 2015, 5:11 pm
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       I don't know about anybody else, but it happened to me and the
       ignition remained on.  I certainly didn't try to turn the key
       off and on while descending the hill.  It didn't make me crash,
       but it was a little unnerving until I realized what was going
       on.  That was when I was in Colorado, the the mountains were
       huge.
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