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#Post#: 457--------------------------------------------------
Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: Rusty Shovel Date: February 26, 2014, 8:21 pm
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I've read that the ABS on the 2014 can be disengaged simply by
removing the three fuses associated with the ABS system. Anyone
give this a try yet? It seems much more reasonable than buying
a $120 dongle!
#Post#: 462--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: truck11 Date: February 27, 2014, 9:10 am
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Not that I want to throw more $$$ at this... but my
understanding is that with the dongle, you can disengage just
the rear ABS?? Thus leaving the front active.
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Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: Rusty Shovel Date: February 27, 2014, 10:50 am
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[quote author=truck11 link=topic=111.msg462#msg462
date=1393513821]
but my understanding is that with the ****le, you can disengage
just the rear ABS?? Thus leaving the front active.
[/quote]
First off, let me laugh with you over this forum's insistence
that "don gle" is a word in need of censorship. Rather than
mess with the settings, for now, I'll just put a space in there.
Second, let me show my source:
HTML http://allroadendurotouring.com/allroad-touring-enduros/light-adventure-touring-enduros/ktm-690-enduro-r-adventure-touring-enduro/
Here's the bit that got me thinking:
For now on the KTM 690 Enduro R 2014 has also anti-locking brake
system ABS onboard due to the EU -regulations. Basically this
kind of adventure touring bike hardly requires any ABS, quite
the opposite and the experienced offroad riders do not
appreciated it very much. The Bosch 9M ABS can be turned OFF
from the instrumentation panel or optionally set into OFFROAD
-mode with a plugin don gle. This means that the rear wheel can
be fully locked while the front wheel is still under the ABS
control which is good for most of us. The ABS is not perfect
every single way and one thing that comes along, is the
requirement of accuracy. The ABS fails to function properly with
unauthorized tyres and rims or when there are repairs made with
universal parts. Even low tyre pressure is able to confuse the
ABS. When it happens, the ABS unit is automatically disengaged
and the brake system itself remains functional. There are 3
fuses taking care of the ABS and I am sure that some of the 690R
riders leave the plugs empty.
Not only is it cheaper to remove the fuses than installing a don
gel, I think it's better.
There is one advantage to leaving the front ABS intact, namely,
it keeps the rider front getting overzealous with the front
brake and sliding out in a corner.
But I think this is offset by the disadvantage, namely, not
being able to lock up the front tire upon losing forward
momentum on a hill climb. If you lock up the rear tire, you'll
loop out. If you can't lock up the front tire, you'll roll
backwards out of control. That would be a nightmare.
KTM could perfect their ABS system by simply allowing their ABS
enabled front brake to lock when rolling rearward, but as of yet
their system can't tell the difference between forward and
backward lockup.
Incidentally, I decided to test out the ABS on the street during
a rainstorm. I locked up the rear brake while approaching a
stoplight. I didn't like it. I braked hard, the bike started
to slow, but then the ABS kicked in AND THE BRAKES GAVE OUT! I
was no longer slowing! I had to release the brakes and modulate
them to a stop (as I've always done). I've never had ABS on a
bike. I may pull those fuses and continue without them.
#Post#: 466--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: Endo Date: February 27, 2014, 12:41 pm
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Hey so what is the verdict on the ABS for you guys that have it?
Does it really suck that bad you feel the need to disengage it?
Just curious. ???
#Post#: 473--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: Colorado Rider Date: February 27, 2014, 10:21 pm
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So far on dry pavement I like it. I had to do an emergency stop
in traffic and it worked well. More testing soon once it gets
warmer!
#Post#: 508--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: SDMF_Reaps Date: March 1, 2014, 10:10 am
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I was riding gravel about 70MPH the other day and popped up over
a hill, there were trees on the west side of the road, and there
was ice covering the road. I hit the brakes hard. I felt the
rear modulating a little bit. The front never did. I got the
bike down to 30 or so before hitting the first section of ice
picked a line pulled in the clutch and hoped for the best. I
made it through got to dry ground again hit the brakes hard
again. This time no modulation got down to 15 or so and rode
through 50 feet of ice waiting for the bottom to slide out as it
was following frozen ruts. I made it through but it was
definitely a butt pucker moment.
As of yet I have no problem with the ABS. In fact I think
keeping the rear from locking in this instance slowed me faster
and I didn't have to think about it so that was a plus. We'll
see after some time. It'll be nice when I can ride to work
regularly. It is currently -10 F yay!
#Post#: 2121--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: doniton2 Date: November 21, 2014, 3:26 pm
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OK so I went to my local dealership to pick up some stuff and
had to ask the mechanic about this. He was telling me that the
ABS shuts off at 7mph or lower. I haven’t tried it yet but have
the perfect hill to try this out. I’m going to leave the ABS on
and stop to see if it will hold the bike with just the front
brake. Has anyone tried that? It won’t be until after
Thanksgiving but I’ll let you know what happens.
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Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: Rusty Shovel Date: November 23, 2014, 3:07 pm
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[quote author=doniton2 link=topic=111.msg2121#msg2121
date=1416605191]
...was telling me that the ABS shuts off at 7mph or lower. I
haven’t tried it yet but have the perfect hill to try this out.
I’m going to leave the ABS on and stop to see if it will hold
the bike with just the front brake. ....I’ll let you know what
happens.
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Please do, and thanks for the info.
#Post#: 2147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: Rokitt Date: November 29, 2014, 6:11 pm
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I would like to disenguage the ABS. If i were to remove the 3
fuses,would i be forced to see a constant ABS warning light ?
#Post#: 2148--------------------------------------------------
Re: Disengaging ABS for FREE
By: Rockitboy Date: November 30, 2014, 11:05 am
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I just don't see the problem with the ABS.. If you dont like it
turn it off with the switch on the instrument cluster. Problem
solved. I like the ABS for rain slick roads or even ice. A full
blown panic stop may take longer but its also a lot easier to
keep the bike up & in control if the wheels aren't locked up. I
have hit both brakes as hard as possible on loose gravel at 60
mph & the bike tracks straight & stops quickly. Try that after
you pull your fuses! Remember when your on the front brake
really hard the rear tire has virtually no stopping power so why
lock it up? When it's time to play turn the ABS off. You don't
need ABS offroad, front or rear.
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