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Re: Where is the power?
By: guest8 Date: July 2, 2020, 9:00 am
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[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14758#msg14758
date=1593693900]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14757#msg14757
date=1593693309]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14755#msg14755
date=1593691499]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14742#msg14742
date=1593657269]
I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
[/quote]No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and
resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send
the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying
that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as
well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that
goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the
here and now.
[/quote]I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at
least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or
in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and
righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see
holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our
thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
[/quote]First, I believe that righteousness is to be without
sin....second, we align our thoughts with the HS through the
renewing of our minds...Romans 12:2...we do that through taking
our thoughts captive 2 Corinthians 10:5 and put those thoughts
on the things of God...Philippians 4:8...Finally, I have a
question for you, you don't have to answer it, but at least
meditate on is....IF Christ came to overcome both sin and death,
how can you believe you will be resurrected into heaven (His
power over death) if He hasn't given you the power over sin?
Wouldn't that be His failure to overcome both sin and death
power?
I'm not suggesting that we don't give in to our desires for sin,
but that His power over sin is as much ours as His power over
death is ours if we only tap into that power and use it as He
designed for us to do so.
[/quote]
Good morning Lori..Hope you are feeling better today...
I question your last statement in that it appears you are saying
the power of the HS is limited by our Free will when He is
within us?
Blade
#Post#: 14767--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
By: guest24 Date: July 2, 2020, 9:40 am
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=980.msg14759#msg14759
date=1593698423]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14758#msg14758
date=1593693900]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14757#msg14757
date=1593693309]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14755#msg14755
date=1593691499]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14742#msg14742
date=1593657269]
I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
[/quote]No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and
resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send
the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying
that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as
well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that
goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the
here and now.
[/quote]I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at
least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or
in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and
righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see
holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our
thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
[/quote]First, I believe that righteousness is to be without
sin....second, we align our thoughts with the HS through the
renewing of our minds...Romans 12:2...we do that through taking
our thoughts captive 2 Corinthians 10:5 and put those thoughts
on the things of God...Philippians 4:8...Finally, I have a
question for you, you don't have to answer it, but at least
meditate on is....IF Christ came to overcome both sin and death,
how can you believe you will be resurrected into heaven (His
power over death) if He hasn't given you the power over sin?
Wouldn't that be His failure to overcome both sin and death
power?
I'm not suggesting that we don't give in to our desires for sin,
but that His power over sin is as much ours as His power over
death is ours if we only tap into that power and use it as He
designed for us to do so.
[/quote]
Good morning Lori..Hope you are feeling better today...
I question your last statement in that it appears you are saying
the power of the HS is limited by our Free will when He is
within us?
Blade
[/quote]To a degree it is...else scripture would not command us
to yield to Him and to NOT grieve Him...if we have no will, how
can we grieve Him? How can we not yield if we have no will to
disobey His commands?
#Post#: 14791--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
By: guest8 Date: July 2, 2020, 8:52 pm
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[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14767#msg14767
date=1593700847]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=980.msg14759#msg14759
date=1593698423]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14758#msg14758
date=1593693900]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14757#msg14757
date=1593693309]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14755#msg14755
date=1593691499]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14742#msg14742
date=1593657269]
I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
[/quote]No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and
resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send
the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying
that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as
well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that
goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the
here and now.
[/quote]I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at
least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or
in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and
righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see
holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our
thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
[/quote]First, I believe that righteousness is to be without
sin....second, we align our thoughts with the HS through the
renewing of our minds...Romans 12:2...we do that through taking
our thoughts captive 2 Corinthians 10:5 and put those thoughts
on the things of God...Philippians 4:8...Finally, I have a
question for you, you don't have to answer it, but at least
meditate on is....IF Christ came to overcome both sin and death,
how can you believe you will be resurrected into heaven (His
power over death) if He hasn't given you the power over sin?
Wouldn't that be His failure to overcome both sin and death
power?
I'm not suggesting that we don't give in to our desires for sin,
but that His power over sin is as much ours as His power over
death is ours if we only tap into that power and use it as He
designed for us to do so.
[/quote]
Good morning Lori..Hope you are feeling better today...
I question your last statement in that it appears you are saying
the power of the HS is limited by our Free will when He is
within us?
Blade
[/quote]To a degree it is...else scripture would not command us
to yield to Him and to NOT grieve Him...if we have no will, how
can we grieve Him? How can we not yield if we have no will to
disobey His commands?
[/quote]
Of course we have free will but the power of the HS is not
diminished. It is there, it may not be used but it is there.
Blade
#Post#: 14798--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
By: guest24 Date: July 3, 2020, 7:05 am
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14757#msg14757
date=1593693309]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14755#msg14755
date=1593691499]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14742#msg14742
date=1593657269]
I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
[/quote]No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and
resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send
the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying
that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as
well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that
goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the
here and now.
[/quote]I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at
least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or
in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and
righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see
holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our
thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
[/quote]scripture tells us to renew our minds, but it also says
to take our thoughts captive and think on the things of God.
Brian had a battle over sin that almost ended our marriage. He
can tell you more if you want, about how he overcame, but it
involved changing his heart and thoughts, relying on God for his
strength. In fact, I often counsel people to find a way to
remind yourself that God is your King, things like key passages
posted places you often look,l like mirrors, frig, etc. I put
passages in my car when I was on the road a lot and thus was
reminded every time I stopped. Find a keyword, like in this
environment, maybe, "corona" or "new normal" something you will
hear a lot, and every time you hear that word, pray. We
suggested that to our SS and one of the women chose the word,
"I" because she was having trouble with self getting in the way.
There are a lot of ways to remind ourselves to be ever mindful
and in the constant presence of the Living God.
#Post#: 14799--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
By: guest24 Date: July 3, 2020, 7:07 am
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=980.msg14791#msg14791
date=1593741177]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14767#msg14767
date=1593700847]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=980.msg14759#msg14759
date=1593698423]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14758#msg14758
date=1593693900]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14757#msg14757
date=1593693309]
[quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14755#msg14755
date=1593691499]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14742#msg14742
date=1593657269]
I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
[/quote]No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and
resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send
the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying
that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as
well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that
goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the
here and now.
[/quote]I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at
least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or
in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and
righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see
holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our
thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
[/quote]First, I believe that righteousness is to be without
sin....second, we align our thoughts with the HS through the
renewing of our minds...Romans 12:2...we do that through taking
our thoughts captive 2 Corinthians 10:5 and put those thoughts
on the things of God...Philippians 4:8...Finally, I have a
question for you, you don't have to answer it, but at least
meditate on is....IF Christ came to overcome both sin and death,
how can you believe you will be resurrected into heaven (His
power over death) if He hasn't given you the power over sin?
Wouldn't that be His failure to overcome both sin and death
power?
I'm not suggesting that we don't give in to our desires for sin,
but that His power over sin is as much ours as His power over
death is ours if we only tap into that power and use it as He
designed for us to do so.
[/quote]
Good morning Lori..Hope you are feeling better today...
I question your last statement in that it appears you are saying
the power of the HS is limited by our Free will when He is
within us?
Blade
[/quote]To a degree it is...else scripture would not command us
to yield to Him and to NOT grieve Him...if we have no will, how
can we grieve Him? How can we not yield if we have no will to
disobey His commands?
[/quote]
Of course we have free will but the power of the HS is not
diminished. It is there, it may not be used but it is there.
Blade
[/quote]absolutely...the key is whether or not we "tap" into
it...just like I said and you challenged.
#Post#: 14804--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
By: patrick jane Date: July 3, 2020, 4:22 pm
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Re: Where is the power?
By: patrick jane Date: October 2, 2020, 11:59 am
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:D
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Re: Where is the power?
By: patrick jane Date: May 27, 2021, 5:16 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg18289#msg18289
date=1601657959]
:D
[/quote] 8)
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Re: Where is the power?
By: patrick jane Date: March 14, 2022, 5:12 pm
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Re: Where is the power?
By: patrick jane Date: March 15, 2022, 7:22 pm
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