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#Post#: 14728--------------------------------------------------
Where is the power?
DIR By: guest24
Date: July 1, 2020, 10:20 am
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Some time ago I asked this question and almost lost a friendship
over it.
I Corinthians 4:20 20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but
in power.
2 Timothy 3:5 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the
power thereof: from such turn away.
So where is the power today? Where is the power in your life? In
this forum? What would the power look like? Let's talk about the
power that God has given to all true believers.
#Post#: 14729--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: July 1, 2020, 10:37 am
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--- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
>
> Some time ago I asked this question and almost lost a
friendship over it.
>
> I Corinthians 4:20 20 For the kingdom of God is not in word,
but in power.
>
> 2 Timothy 3:5 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the
power thereof: from such turn away.
>
> So where is the power today? Where is the power in your life?
In this forum? What would the power look like? Let's talk about
the power that God has given to all true believers.
>
--- End Quote ---
In this dispensation God is silent, behind the scenes. He last
spoke to Paul and all of the power we have is explained in
Paul's epistles.
#Post#: 14733--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: guest24
Date: July 1, 2020, 1:05 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14728#msg14728
date=1593616803]
> Some time ago I asked this question and almost lost a
friendship over it.
>
> I Corinthians 4:20 20 For the kingdom of God is not in word,
but in power.
>
> 2 Timothy 3:5 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the
power thereof: from such turn away.
>
> So where is the power today? Where is the power in your life?
In this forum? What would the power look like? Let's talk about
the power that God has given to all true believers.
>
--- End Quote ---
In this dispensation God is silent, behind the scenes. He last
spoke to Paul and all of the power we have is explained in
Paul's epistles.
[/quote]Acts 2:17 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days,
saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your
sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall
see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
so you don't believe we are in the last days?
#Post#: 14735--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: July 1, 2020, 2:12 pm
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--- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14729#msg14729
date=1593617858]
> [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14728#msg14728
date=1593616803]
> Some time ago I asked this question and almost lost a
friendship over it.
>
> I Corinthians 4:20 20 For the kingdom of God is not in word,
but in power.
>
> 2 Timothy 3:5 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the
power thereof: from such turn away.
>
> So where is the power today? Where is the power in your life?
In this forum? What would the power look like? Let's talk about
the power that God has given to all true believers.
>
--- End Quote ---
In this dispensation God is silent, behind the scenes. He last
spoke to Paul and all of the power we have is explained in
Paul's epistles.
[/quote]Acts 2:17 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days,
saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your
sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall
see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
so you don't believe we are in the last days?
[/quote]I do, however we should keep in mind that every
generation before us and I mean EVERY GENERATION SINCE JESUS
CHRIST has believed they were in the last days. Who decides what
constitutes scripture and whom is speaking directly from God';s
inspired word? If I have a series of dreams and appear to be
righteous on all counts, a man of God and a Prophet no less and
I declare that tomorrow, who will believe me in this day and
age? The power you speak of and may be seeking is God's Word,
Jesus Christ. The power, to me in my understanding is that The
Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins and defeated death and sin.
We have eternal life AFTER THIS LIFE ON EARTH IF WE BELIEVE.
That is POWER - we need to be bold and confident in this.
#Post#: 14742--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: July 1, 2020, 9:34 pm
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I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
#Post#: 14743--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: July 1, 2020, 11:18 pm
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I believe we can live holy and righteous but not sinless.
#Post#: 14755--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: guest24
Date: July 2, 2020, 7:04 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
>
--- End Quote ---
No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and
resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send
the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying
that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as
well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that
goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the
here and now.
#Post#: 14756--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: guest24
Date: July 2, 2020, 7:05 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> I believe we can live holy and righteous but not sinless.
>
--- End Quote ---
How then do you define "holy" and "righteous"?
#Post#: 14757--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: July 2, 2020, 7:35 am
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--- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14742#msg14742
date=1593657269]
> I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
>
--- End Quote ---
No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and
resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send
the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying
that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as
well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that
goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the
here and now.
[/quote]I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at
least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or
in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and
righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see
holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our
thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
#Post#: 14758--------------------------------------------------
Re: Where is the power?
DIR By: guest24
Date: July 2, 2020, 7:45 am
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=Lori Bolinger link=topic=980.msg14755#msg14755
date=1593691499]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=980.msg14742#msg14742
date=1593657269]
> I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
>
--- End Quote ---
No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and
resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send
the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying
that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as
well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that
goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the
here and now.
[/quote]I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at
least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or
in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and
righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see
holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our
thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
[/quote]First, I believe that righteousness is to be without
sin....second, we align our thoughts with the HS through the
renewing of our minds...Romans 12:2...we do that through taking
our thoughts captive 2 Corinthians 10:5 and put those thoughts
on the things of God...Philippians 4:8...Finally, I have a
question for you, you don't have to answer it, but at least
meditate on is....IF Christ came to overcome both sin and death,
how can you believe you will be resurrected into heaven (His
power over death) if He hasn't given you the power over sin?
Wouldn't that be His failure to overcome both sin and death
power?
I'm not suggesting that we don't give in to our desires for sin,
but that His power over sin is as much ours as His power over
death is ours if we only tap into that power and use it as He
designed for us to do so.
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