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Re: Wesleyan Theology
By: guest116 Date: September 10, 2020, 2:16 am
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As I dig into John Wesley I am not sure he can be called a
Theologian in the same sense as we do the reformers, but none
the less he was a Theologian. Some I have noticed say he is
not a Theologian since he has no theology of his own. Yet in
same breath say I am a threologian because I have a degree in
Theology. That just does not make sense.
I know as far as I am concerned he was a theologian. I believe
he did have his own version of Theology. That I find his
Theology very optimistic for the human relationship with God.
He was very into us finding a holy love relationship with God.
I still struggle with his version of Grace though. Those that
are Pauline oor Calvinist, will not like much about him has
become obvious, even though he is kind of a closet Pauline in
nature. In fact one of the Seminary's I took my first few
courses at were a Methodist/Wesletan Seminary called St Paul.
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Re: Wesleyan Theology
By: guest8 Date: September 10, 2020, 8:57 am
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=953.msg17443#msg17443 date=1599722196]
As I dig into John Wesley I am not sure he can be called a
Theologian in the same sense as we do the reformers, but none
the less he was a Theologian. Some I have noticed say he is
not a Theologian since he has no theology of his own. Yet in
same breath say I am a threologian because I have a degree in
Theology. That just does not make sense.
I know as far as I am concerned he was a theologian. I believe
he did have his own version of Theology. That I find his
Theology very optimistic for the human relationship with God.
He was very into us finding a holy love relationship with God.
I still struggle with his version of Grace though. Those that
are Pauline oor Calvinist, will not like much about him has
become obvious, even though he is kind of a closet Pauline in
nature. In fact one of the Seminary's I took my first few
courses at were a Methodist/Wesletan Seminary called St Paul.
[/quote]
Yes, John, his brother Charles and George Whitfield are
considered the father of Methodism. However, like all the
denominations of today, they brought with them the errors of the
"Mother Church" (Catholic Church), including the "church state"
and 'infant Baptism".
The first Methodist church "Methodist Episcopal Church" began in
Baltimore in 1784.
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#Post#: 18401--------------------------------------------------
Re: Wesleyan Theology
By: guest116 Date: October 5, 2020, 12:11 am
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The mre I read about Wesley and his Theology the more I see a
combination of Luthers struggle as he started his move to his
reformer self, the mysticism of Tauler and a lot of simplest
thought seen in the nominalist school of thought of Biel.
This has made it really hard to get a true handle on his
thoughts and not what we see now.
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Re: Wesleyan Theology
By: guest8 Date: October 5, 2020, 8:43 pm
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=953.msg18401#msg18401 date=1601874661]
The mre I read about Wesley and his Theology the more I see a
combination of Luthers struggle as he started his move to his
reformer self, the mysticism of Tauler and a lot of simplest
thought seen in the nominalist school of thought of Biel.
This has made it really hard to get a true handle on his
thoughts and not what we see now.
[/quote]
Luther followed Biel's writings which had a lot to do with His
thoughts and actions during the Reformation. Don't know too much
about Johann Tauler and how He influenced Luther thoughts if
any.
Because of Biel and maybe a few others, Luther and major
problems with freeing himself from the RCC's long tentacles.
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Re: Wesleyan Theology
By: patrick jane Date: February 26, 2021, 9:24 pm
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B8LKoWAqtQ
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Re: Wesleyan Theology
By: guest8 Date: February 27, 2021, 8:37 am
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=953.msg25860#msg25860
date=1614396288]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B8LKoWAqtQ
[/quote]
I like , thanks
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