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       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: patrick jane Date: December 20, 2020, 7:24 pm
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       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=948.msg22539#msg22539 date=1608513531]
       We will have to disagree Patrick as I believe the sky is falling
       mentality is short sight and selling the people of this country
       short.   That was not directed at you specifically either.  But
       if you felt it was, then you  and I can chat as an exchange of
       information is all I have every ask who thinks electing one
       person will negate everything else intrigues me, just as much as
       I felt the same way when Trump was elected.  While I detested
       him for many many years.  I never once though the election of
       one man would destroy everything and told my friends I have on
       the extreme left the same.
       If my views and opinions are offensive and as it sounds to me,
       you think I am a misguide or miss led Christian, than delete me.
       I am good with that.  I have never stayed where I am unwanted.
       But I am tired of what I consider wrong or an issue being
       demean belittle and then told I am unamerican and a C0ommunist.
       I spent 20 years defending this country in the Army and another
       20 years until I retired in 2020 defending the country working
       for Homeland Security.  I think I have earned my right to feel
       how I feel.   I defended our Country even when I disagreed with
       Policy as long as it was lawful.   My oath has never gone away
       and I will defend it to my dining breath.
       [/quote]Your views are not offensive to me but what I'm doing
       with the titles of these threads is fighting back as best I can.
       The left (dems) want your guns Mark, they love abortion and the
       teaching of genderless living to Pre School children. They want
       to end fossil fuels. China will be poised to invade this nation
       in ten years. No, the election of one man does nothing Mark, but
       the fraud committed to STEAL the election and the very future of
       the great nation to served is OVER, your grandchildren will be
       living in a communist country.
       #Post#: 22543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: guest116 Date: December 20, 2020, 7:38 pm
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       I am a Dem and almost all my friends I hang with in person are
       Dem's, all of us own firearms and hunt and do not want your
       guns.  We all acknowledge that the extreme left might, but the
       mainstream does not.  None of us like abortion, but support a
       women's right to decided and to have a safe place to get the
       procedure instead of a back alley somewhere like it was in the
       '60s. All of us think this genderless crap is that crap.   To
       many people believe to much the media has said about democrats
       and failed to actually talk to those that walk among you.  You
       would find out that most all of us are more like me than the
       extremist on either side of an issue.
       As for the election, I figure when 47 lawsuits have been denied
       including by Trump appointees and the Supreme Court twice say
       that there has been no widespread or specific fraud found I am
       good with those results.   Not once did Trump attorneys produce
       one shred of evidence and I went and download the court filings
       and read them.   Some of the fillings were horribly written and
       babbling crap that a first-year law student would never have got
       past a teacher.
       We will just have to agree to disagree on the election.   I like
       you allot and what you have done for the THeology part of this
       forum.  I have enjoyed it on hear, but lets face it neither of
       us will change our positions on this.
       #Post#: 22544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: patrick jane Date: December 20, 2020, 7:54 pm
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       There are thousands of affidavits that can't be heard because
       the courts messed up every time. There is an overwhelming amount
       of evidence of election fraud no matter what was denied 47
       times. We shall see what the country looks like in 2024 and in
       2030 brother.
       #Post#: 22545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: patrick jane Date: December 20, 2020, 9:00 pm
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       Thousands of sworn affidavits from eyewitnesses at every swing
       state main polling count location, Trump leading by a LOT in
       every swing state until about 3 am and the statistics are
       mathematically impossible.
       Dominion voting systems is a cheating system, documented and
       proved. You aren't aware of the real evidence because the media
       sources you use won't report it. Massive fraud brother, I
       promise you.
       I like you a lot too Mark and you can talk politics on your YT
       channel if you choose to and your views are respected by me.
       What has the Proud Boys done that needs condemning? You may
       notice I don't promote them here either.
       I think Donald Trump is the greatest president in my 51 year
       life. Maybe you believe wearing masks helps as well, that's OK,
       I don't. I don't have white guilt and I don't owe black people
       anything in restitution. The top leadership of the dems, behind
       the scenes, are in league with Planned Parenthood making
       abortion a for profit business like a damn fast food restaurant.
       The America I was born in in 1969 is gone forever now with this
       election. No doom and gloom just reality. I hope I'm wrong
       brother. God bless you Mark.
       #Post#: 22546--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: patrick jane Date: December 20, 2020, 9:16 pm
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       How can anyone disregard what the dems did to Trump with 3 years
       of attempted impeachment with no crimes and no Russian
       interference - ZERO and if the same fraud allegations were made
       against Trump should he have won this election (which he did)
       you would see full support for deep investigations from every
       dem in the earth. Suddenly nobody is interested.
       Mark, when I refer to "dems" I am speaking only about your
       leadership and the global interests they bow down to and serve.
       I am not speaking of you or my next door neighbors who are
       democrats. I am so disgusted with your party and where it is
       headed that I refuse to capitalize the word democrat.
       #Post#: 22547--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: patrick jane Date: December 20, 2020, 11:28 pm
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       I'm sorry Mark, if I was short with you or offensive. I just
       post videos of things I agree with but I don't know much about
       the Proud Boys, and like the whole country we see different
       things on both sides. It is amazing how half the country sees
       one thing and the other half see the opposite.
       That means they have done their job quite well, divide and
       conquer.  I have no problem with your views and opinions brother
       so please don't ever feel unwelcomed here.
       Sincerely, Mark
       #Post#: 23323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: guest17 Date: January 3, 2021, 9:02 pm
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       Portland Mayor FINALLY admits 'ANTIFA' is a problem...
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqkLta44sZg
       #Post#: 24129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: patrick jane Date: January 24, 2021, 7:41 pm
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       Twitter suspends ‘Antifa’ accounts with more than 71K followers
       Twitter has suspended several popular accounts with alleged ties
       to Antifa — which have more than 71,000 followers combined —
       following the Inauguration Day riots.
       At least four accounts tied with the militant group have been
       yanked offline — including @TheBaseBK, the account for the
       anarchist center in Bushwick, Brooklyn.
       Archived web pages of the accounts show they shared more than
       71,000 followers and dated as far back as 2012.
       Their pages now read “Account suspended” for violating Twitter
       rules.
       Antifa Sacramento railed against The Base’s suspension on its
       own Twitter.
       “Our comrades w The Base (@TheBasebk), an anarchist social
       center in Brooklyn, NY of 9 years now took this Twitter thing
       seriously. Reaching a platform of 17k followers they pushed a
       very specific line where politics were never blurred. Today,
       Twitter took their account down, and now theres a void,” the
       group tweeted Thursday.
       “The Base took the same approach to Twitter as they do in the
       struggle for liberation. As anarchists they take a stand & never
       waver. Its inspiring. And we encourage everyone to check their
       site now & periodically
  HTML http://thebasebk.org
       Solidarity
       forever!”
       The suspensions were first reported by Andy Ngo, who runs the
       conservative blog The Post Millennial.
       Twitter didn’t immediately return an email.
       Members of Antifa — the far-left radical group behind numerous
       riots in recent months — ransacked the streets of Seattle the
       night of President Biden’s inauguration, smashing up the
       historic Starbucks and burning an American flag.
       They also marched through Portland, Oregon, with a banner
       reading, “WE DON’T WANT BIDEN — WE WANT REVENGE!”
       Twitter has been cracking down on accounts belonging to
       extremist groups and those that peddle conspiracy theories
       following the Jan. 6 siege on the US Capitol.
       More than 70,000 QAnon-related accounts have since been purged.
  HTML https://nypost.com/2021/01/22/twitter-suspends-antifa-accounts-with-over-71k-followers/
       #Post#: 24137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: guest17 Date: January 24, 2021, 8:10 pm
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81mV3L9f700
       Antifa agitators smash windows of Portland Democratic Party
       headquarters, attack police officer, and flip over car Jan 21,
       2021
       Leftist agitators rioted in the streets of Portland Wednesday
       night, smashing windows at the Democratic Party headquarters.
       Hundreds of people associated with the leftist organization
       antifa gathered around 2 p.m. Wednesday, two hours after
       President Biden's inauguration ceremony, and marched to the
       Democratic Party headquarters and began smashing windows,
       according to KOIN 6 News.
       “To those gathered near the Democratic Party of Oregon Portland
       Headquarters: Members of this group have been observed damaging
       the building,” the Portland Police Bureau tweeted. “Anyone who
       is involved in criminal behavior including: vandalism and
       graffittiing is subject to arrest or citation.
       Several journalists posted video from the scene showing the
       destruction of the building.
       “The Democratic Party Of Oregon building was vandalized moments
       go by an Antifa group in Portland Oregon,” the Daily Caller’s
       Jorge Ventura tweeted. “The group gathered at Revolution Hall
       and blocked roads off as they made their way towards the
       building.”
  HTML https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/antifa-smash-window-democratic-headquarters-attack-police
       #Post#: 24355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA
       By: guest17 Date: January 30, 2021, 1:07 pm
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       Black Lives Matter nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
       A member of the Norwegian Parliament nominated Black Lives
       Matter for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize, lauding the movement for
       its calls for systemic change during summer 2020.
       Petter Eide of the Socialist Left Party said in his nomination
       papers that the movement had a hand in forcing countries outside
       the United States to combat racism and inequality in their
       respective societies, according to the Guardian.
       Following the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis police
       custody in May, Black Lives Matter soared in international
       popularity, leading to protests against racism and police
       brutality in cities across the world, including London, Seoul,
       Sydney, Rio de Janeiro, and elsewhere.
       “I find that one of the key challenges we have seen in America,
       but also in Europe and Asia, is the kind of increasing conflict
       based on inequality. Black Lives Matter has become a very
       important worldwide movement to fight racial injustice," Eide
       said. "They have had a tremendous achievement in raising global
       awareness and consciousness about racial injustice."
       Eide said he did not intend for his nomination to be a statement
       about domestic U.S. politics but also dismissed criticism from
       right-wing voices alleging Black Lives Matter was responsible
       for damages and violence in U.S. cities.
       “Studies have shown that most of the demonstrations organised by
       Black Lives Matter have been peaceful. Of course there have been
       incidents, but most of them have been caused by the activities
       of either the police or counter-protestors,” Eide said.
       According to Property Claim Services, a company tracking
       insurance claims related to civil disorder, looting and riots
       following the death of Floyd amounted to at least $1 billion in
       damages to properties across the United States, the Hill
       reported.
       Although independent investigations concluded over 90% of
       protests in 2020 remained peaceful, many cities, including
       Minneapolis and Kenosha, Wisconsin, were struck with immense
       property damages from violent agitators and anarchists.
       Former President Donald Trump was also nominated for the 2021
       prize by Christian Tybring-Gjedde, a member of Parliament who
       leads Norway's NATO delegation. Trump did not win the prize.
       Tybring-Gjedde said he nominated Trump not because he liked the
       former president but because "the committee should look at the
       facts and judge him on the facts — not on the way he behaves
       sometimes. The people who have received the Peace Prize in
       recent years have done much less than Donald Trump. For example,
       Barack Obama did nothing."
       Tybring-Gjedde also said his reasoning for nominating Trump
       stemmed from his role in brokering peace negotiations between
       Israel and the United Arab Emirates.
       Following the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, after which the
       House voted to impeach Trump a second time on a charge of
       incitement of insurrection, Eide said he had "a little
       difficulty defending [Tybring-Gjedde's] nomination." Trump
       faces a Senate impeachment trial next month.
       Nobel Peace Prize nominations are accepted from any politician
       serving at a national level, and those submitting have 2,000
       words to state their reasoning for selection.
       The deadline for 2021 submissions is Monday. A committee will
       prepare a shortlist of nominations by the end of March, and the
       winner is selected in October, followed by an award ceremony
       slated for Dec. 10.
  HTML https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/blm-movement-nominated-nobel-peace-prize
       [b]James 3:13 Who among you is wise and intelligent? Let him by
       his good conduct show his [good] deeds with the gentleness and
       humility of true wisdom. 14But if you have bitter jealousy and
       selfish ambition in your hearts, do not be arrogant, and [as a
       result] be in defiance of the truth. 15This [superficial] wisdom
       is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly
       (secular), natural (unspiritual), even demonic. 16For where
       jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder [unrest,
       rebellion] and every evil thing and morally degrading practice.
       17But the wisdom from above is first pure [morally and
       spiritually undefiled], then peace-loving [courteous,
       considerate], gentle, reasonable [and willing to listen], full
       of compassion and good fruits. It is unwavering, without
       [self-righteous] hypocrisy [and self-serving guile]. 18And the
       seed whose fruit is righteousness (spiritual maturity) is sown
       in peace by those who make peace [by actively encouraging
       goodwill between individuals].[/b
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