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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: patrick jane Date: July 17, 2020, 9:46 am
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       The Perils of White American Folk Religion
       Many Christians unwittingly practice a counter-faith that
       doesn't know how to deal with racism.
       In June, 2020, Dan Cathy, the CEO of Chick-fil-A; Louie Giglio,
       pastor of Passion City Church; and Lecrae, a platinum-selling
       recording artist, gathered to discuss the tortuous death of
       George Floyd, choked by officer Derek Chauvin, who put his knee
       on the unarmed man’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. They
       gathered to talk about Ahmaud Arbery, who was chased down by
       armed residents, surrounded, and shot to death in Glynn County,
       Georgia, on February 23. A potential cover-up protected the
       murderers.
       After Rayshard Brooks was killed by police in the drive-thru of
       an Atlanta Wendy’s, Cathy, Giglio, and Lecrae sat together to
       talk about racism and the church’s role. Over 60 percent of
       white Christians think pastors should not talk about race. Forty
       percent believe race and immigration should never even be a
       topic in church. Meanwhile, an equal number of black folks say
       that pastors and churches should. This shows that racial
       reconciliation conferences do not work. Before reconciliation
       can be introduced, we have to embrace the truth.
       In the aftermath of terrible state violence in other countries,
       truth and reconciliation commissions convened to bring
       reparative, restorative, or punitive justice. This happened in
       Rwanda after the 1994 genocide, in South Africa after the fall
       of apartheid, and after what is termed the “Dirty War” in
       Argentina. This has never happened in the United States.
       These secular governments understand a fundamental reality that
       should be familiar to followers of Jesus: We confess and God
       forgives. Truth and acknowledgement come before reconciliation.
       Christians of every color should have a firm, biblical grasp of
       the necessity for individual and collective confession and
       repentance before forgiveness and reconciliation can occur.
       When we trespass, we must wrestle with the gravity of personal
       and corporate sins—including sinful actions we were not even
       aware of, injustices we benefit from, and results that we did
       not intend. We must lament, confess, and repent (Acts 2:38;
       3:19). Only then are we truly reconciled to God through Christ
       Jesus and sent, equipped, to be ministers of reconciliation to
       others (2 Cor. 5:18).
       In well-resourced, often white evangelical churches, entire
       ministries and parachurch organizations disciple people out of
       patterns of sin, struggles with alcoholism, and drug addiction.
       Ministries serve those in need while reinforcing their personal
       dignity and value. But such compassion toward sinners and the
       needy gets lost once the topic turns to white supremacy.
       White Christians and those pursuing whiteness often become
       defensive and angry when asked what Jesus would say about the
       race-, class-, gender- and ideologically based hierarchy evident
       in our world. The inability and unwillingness to acknowledge and
       confess what exists and repent creates conditions for violence
       and oppression against people of color. Our country and its
       churches are socialized to not critique white supremacy.
       The church has been instrumental in the creation, defense, and
       propagation of the myth of whiteness under the reign of White
       Jesus. Jemar Tisby, author of the best-selling The Color of
       Compromise: The Truth About the American Church’s Complicity in
       Racism, lays out clear and searing connections between the
       enslavement of Africans and leaders of white congregations.
       “Many of the men who conducted night rides” that terrorized
       black communities with burned crosses and lynchings were the
       very same men who “ascended to pulpits to preach on Sunday.”
       Go back further, detailing how 15th-century church edicts
       exalted those with lighter skin and rejected the personhood of
       those with darker skin. A series of Roman Catholic decrees (the
       Doctrine of Discovery, 1493) codified white supremacy and
       sanctioned genocide, rape and abuse against African and Native
       peoples. Theologian Willie Jennings asserted the purpose was to
       bring people and the planet to “maturity.”
       Colonialism created a counter-faith I call White American Folk
       Religion (WAFR). It’s a set of beliefs and practices grounded in
       a race, class, gender, and ideological hierarchy that segregates
       and ranks all people under a light-skinned, thin-lipped,
       blond-haired Christ. Americans of every color and racial
       assignment must reckon with the current and historic reality of
       a country and its churches rooted in White American Folk
       Religion. WAFR fuels ignorance, complicity, and willing
       participation in the patterns of injustice that perpetuate the
       death and degradation of brown, black, and indigenous women and
       men. Yet, in this moment of racial turmoil, those entangled in
       WAFR believe it is their right and responsibility to speak,
       teach, and lead.
       In our post-colonial world, and especially in the United States,
       Western seminaries and theology prioritize whiteness and defer
       to white men like Giglio and Cathy—evangelical, older, white,
       wealthy, well-known, well-educated, well-connected, able-bodied,
       and gainfully employed—and regard them as credible and
       trustworthy, though neither Giglio nor Cathy is an expert on
       American policing or the history of a racism that promotes mass
       incarceration and instinctively perceives black bodies as
       criminal in every community. Neither of them has done the inner
       work to decolonize and disempower their frames of WAFR
       reference. They were not chosen to lead this dialogue in front
       of cameras and congregants in a crisis because of their
       experience or expertise but because they fit the description of
       authority.
       There are many leaders who could have led this dialogue with
       clarity, conviction, and compassion and who are already leading
       Christ-centered, Holy Spirit–filled movements. They were passed
       over in favor of these, like too many in the white church and of
       the world, who speak lies from the pit of hell about how slavery
       is a “white blessing” from their Christ in their stained glass
       windows.
       Colonialism succeeded. Racism is pervasive—so much so that we
       are often unaware of the depths of our socialized sin and
       individual participation. Giglio apologized on Instagram and
       asked for prayer. What he did not do was confess how his
       seminary training and discipleship did not prepare him to lead
       in this moment; that he is stepping down and stepping back to
       make space for the women and men of color to lead this
       conversation; and that he will take their direction. Often,
       white Christians are not willing to believe, let alone follow,
       people of color or rigorously engage in the process of
       detangling the Jesus of scripture from WAFR. This is what the
       work of decolonization looks like.
       Pastors of every color in Giglio’s position must acknowledge
       that western theology and praxis are intertwined with WAFR and
       confess where they lack the personal and institutional wisdom to
       comprehensively resist white supremacy. Church leaders that are
       ill-equipped to lead and teach on issues of ethnic justice and
       reconciliation should confess their limitations and empower
       leaders of color to shepherd them and their congregants towards
       the Acts 2 community of true fellowship and wonder and unity and
       prayer (Acts 2:42–44). In the face of certain backlash, pastors
       must do more than denounce racism. Christians need to be
       discipled out of prejudice, bias, and WAFR. This begins with
       white pastors confessing complicity in racist systems and
       testifying to God’s grace and forgiveness in their own lives;
       then they can lead others to do the same.
       How amazing it would be if pastors and leaders who benefit from
       the racism in their families and institutions repented for not
       resisting racist actions, ideology, and theology? What if
       pastors repented publicly for not rejecting the curse of Ham,
       not standing up for the Japanese during internment, or
       participating in white flight because people of color moved into
       “their” neighborhoods? What if parents asked for forgiveness
       from God and their children for saying, “You can marry anyone
       but one of them”? What if Christian families and institutions
       quantified their benefits from slavery and genocide of native
       peoples and allocated money toward financial reparation? This
       would be profound, powerful, and beyond significant for people
       of color. White people too would be liberated from the false
       burden of superiority, the lie of white supremacy, and enter
       into the desegregated, reconciled family of God. No more
       statements, panel discussions, conferences, or book clubs; what
       we need is lament, confession, repentance, and a refusal to
       conform to the world’s racist patterns. Jesus prayed in John 17
       that we might all be one and preview the coming “great multitude
       that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and
       language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb” (Rev.
       7:9–17). We can experience a slice of this future on this side
       of heaven if, as the body of Christ, we embrace truth and
       reconciliation in the United States.
       Jonathan Walton is the author of Twelve Lies That Hold America
       Captive: And the Truth That Sets Us Free. He is also an area
       director for InterVarsity NY/NJ focusing on spiritual formation
       and experiential discipleship. He is from Southern Virginia and
       lives in New York City.
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: guest17 Date: July 18, 2020, 8:13 pm
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       Car delivers baseball bats in front of City Hall for "peaceful
       protesters" on the Brooklyn Bridge.
       Jul 16, 2020
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: guest8 Date: July 18, 2020, 8:31 pm
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       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=948.msg15380#msg15380
       date=1595121204]
       Car delivers baseball bats in front of City Hall for "peaceful
       protesters" on the Brooklyn Bridge.
       Jul 16, 2020
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       [/quote]
       Everything is only going to get worse until after the election.
       Blade
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: guest8 Date: July 18, 2020, 8:37 pm
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       [quote author=truthjourney link=topic=948.msg15380#msg15380
       date=1595121204]
       Car delivers baseball bats in front of City Hall for "peaceful
       protesters" on the Brooklyn Bridge.
       Jul 16, 2020
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       [/quote]
       this is not going to stop until the election.
       Blade
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: guest17 Date: August 9, 2020, 12:40 pm
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       Patrisse Cullors, co-founder of BLM, said, "Well, I’m a trained
       organizer. And so, I think sometimes people think that because
       Black Lives Matter is the biggest thing, that that’s the first
       thing I ever did. And it’s not. I was trained knocking on doors,
       you know, getting on buses and passing out flyers and getting
       people to join organizations. The Labor Community Strategy
       Center is my first political home. .."
       JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Started by an old friend of mine, Eric Mann.
       PATRISSE KHAN-CULLORS: Yes, Eric Mann. That’s my mentor.
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       Radical Roots
       Labor/Community Strategy Center is an urban experiment to root
       grassroots organizing focusing in Black and Latino communities
       with deep historical ties to the long history of anti-colonial
       anti-imperialist pro-communist resistance to the U.S. empire. We
       teach and study history of the Indigenous rebellions against the
       initial European genocidal invasions, the Great Slave Haitian
       Revolution of the 1790s, the Great Slave Rebellions that won the
       U.S. civil war for the racist north as explained in W.E.B.
       DuBois’ Black Reconstruction in America. We appreciate the work
       of the U.S. Communist Party especially Black communists Harry
       Haywood, the African Blood Brotherhood and Cyril Briggs, Paul
       Robeson, Claudia Jones, Du Bois, Benjamin Davis, William L.
       Patterson, and Lorraine Hansberry.
       We applaud the great work of the Black Panther Party, the
       American Indian Movement, Young Lords, Brown Berets, and the
       great revolutionary rainbow experiments of the 1970s. We also
       have roots in the new communist movement of the 1970s and 1980s
       especially the August 29th Movement, I Wor Kuen, Congress of
       African People/Revolutionary Communist League (and Amiri Baraka)
       and their merger into the League of Revolutionary Struggle.
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       Eric Mann
       ....in 1969, Mann, then a leader in the SDS faction, the
       Weathermen (Weather Underground), adopted the Revolutionary
       Youth Movement’s belief that violent "direct action," a
       euphemism for terrorism, should be used as a tactic to dismantle
       the group's perceived power centers of “US imperialism”.[20]
       Mann and 20 others were arrested in September 1969 for
       participation in a direct action against the Harvard Center for
       International Affairs, which the Revolutionary Youth Movement
       saw as a university-sponsored institution for
       counter-insurgency.[14] [21] Mann and 24 other Weathermen were
       charged with conspiracy to commit murder after two bullets were
       fired through a window of the police headquarters on November 8,
       1969. Mann surrendered to the police on four counts stemming
       from the November 8 incident: conspiracy to commit murder,
       assault with intent to commit murder, promotion of anarchy, and
       threatening.[22] Mann was sentenced to two years in prison of
       which he spent 18 months in Billerica, Deer Island, and Concord
       State Prison (with 40 days in solitary confinement).[20] He was
       released in July 1971.
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       Patrisse Cullors developed an interest in the Nigerian religious
       tradition of Ifá, incorporating its rituals into political
       protest events.
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       Ifá is a Yoruba religion and system of divination.
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       Divination
       the practice of seeking knowledge of the future or the unknown
       by supernatural means.
       synonyms:
       fortune telling · divining · foretelling the future ·
       forecasting the future · prophecy · prediction · soothsaying ·
       augury · clairvoyance · second sight · magic · sorcery ·
       witchcraft · spellworking · vaticination · sortilege ·
       auspication · witchery
       Susan Rosenberg
       As of 2020, Rosenberg serves as Vice Chair of the Board of
       Directors of Thousand Currents, a non-profit foundation that
       sponsors the fundraising and does administrative work for the
       Black Lives Matter Global Network, among other clients.[24]
       From the late 1970s into the mid-1980s, Rosenberg was active in
       the far-left revolutionary terrorist May 19th Communist
       Organization ("M19CO"), which according to a contemporaneous FBI
       report "openly advocate[d] the overthrow of the U.S. Government
       through armed struggle and the use of violence".[2] M19CO
       provided support to an offshoot of the Black Liberation Army,
       including in armored truck robberies, and later engaged in
       bombings of government buildings.[3]
       After living as a fugitive for two years, Rosenberg was arrested
       in 1984 while in possession of a large cache of explosives and
       firearms. She had also been sought as an accomplice in the 1979
       prison escape of Assata Shakur and in the 1981 Brink's robbery
       that resulted in the deaths of two police and a guard[4],
       although she was never charged in either case.
       She also joined the May 19th Communist Organization, which
       worked in support of the Black Liberation Army and its offshoots
       (including assistance in armored truck robberies), the Weather
       Underground and other revolutionary organizations.[11]....The
       Weather Underground Organization (WUO), commonly known as the
       Weather Underground, was a radical left militant organization
       active in the late 1960s and 1970s, founded on the Ann Arbor
       campus of the University of Michigan. It was originally called
       the Weathermen....The FBI classified the WUO as a domestic
       terrorist group...
       Rosenberg was sentenced to 58 years' imprisonment on the weapons
       and explosives charges. She spent 16 years in prison, ...
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: patrick jane Date: August 11, 2020, 11:29 am
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       Black Lives Matter is a Domestic Terrorist Organization | Change
       My Mind
       Steven Crowder takes to the streets of Austin to have real
       conversations with real people. In this installment, Steven
       posits that Black Lives Matter is a domestic terrorist
       organization.
       1 hour 7 minutes
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: guest17 Date: September 4, 2020, 9:50 am
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       The BLM Connection to Witchcraft
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       [b]BLM leaders practice 'witchcraft' and summon dead spirits,
       black activist claims
       A black conservative Christian podcast host has claimed that the
       Black Lives Matter movement engages in “witchcraft” and called
       on Christians who have allied themselves with the organization
       to rethink their decision.
       Abraham Hamilton III, who hosts “The Hamilton Corner” on the
       socially conservative American Family Radio, devoted the Aug. 19
       episode of his program to highlighting “The BLM Connection to
       Witchcraft.”
       Throughout the podcast, Hamilton argued that Black Lives Matter
       was not merely another social justice advocacy organization.
       Instead, he argues that it is a religious movement.
       Hamilton, who serves as the American Family Association’s public
       policy analyst, began the podcast by criticizing the Black Lives
       Matter movement as a “Marxist, anti-Christ, anti-family, [and]
       anti-man organization.”
       “What we are witnessing is a copy and paste of the Bolshevik
       Revolution from Russia just applied into an American context,”
       he contended.
       After reminding his listeners that Patrisse Cullors, one of the
       co-founders of the Black Lives Matter movement, described
       herself as a “trained Marxist,” Hamilton read aloud a quote from
       Cullors explaining her point of view on spirituality.
       “I’m calling for spirituality to be deeply radical," Cullors
       said. “We’re not just having a social justice movement, this is
       a spiritual movement.”
       Hamilton played audio from a “Zoom-type conversation” between
       Cullors and Dr. Melina Abdullah, a professor of African studies
       at California State University Los Angeles who founded the
       group’s L.A. chapter.
       “We’ve become very intimate with the spirits that we call on
       regularly,” Abdullah said in the clip. “Each of them seems to
       have a different presence and personality. You know, I laugh a
       lot with Wakiesha … I didn’t meet her in her body, right? I met
       her through this work.”
       The “Wakiesha” mentioned by Abdullah refers to Wakiesha Wilson,
       an African-American woman who was found dead in a Los Angeles
       jail back in 2016.
       Hamilton argues that the conversation proved that Black Lives
       Matter leaders were “summoning the spirits of the dead [and]
       using the power of the spirits of the dead in order to give them
       the ability to do what they’re calling the so-called justice
       work.”
       Hamilton stated that those leaders seeking to summon the spirits
       of the dead are adhering to “the Yoruba religion of Ifa.”
       “They are summoning dead spirits,” he said. “One of the
       touchstones of this religious practice is ancestral worship.
       Guess what the Bible calls that folks? Witchcraft.”
       “I started to feel personally connected and responsible and
       accountable to them, both from a deeply political place but also
       from a deeply spiritual place,” Cullors said. “In my tradition,
       you offer things that your loved one who passed away would want,
       whether it’s like honey or tobacco, things like that.”
       “It’s so important, not just for us, to be in direct
       relationship to our people who have passed, but also for them to
       know we’ve remembered them,” she added. “I believe so many of
       them work through us.”
       Abdullah said that the first thing people do when they hear of
       murder is “pray” and “pour libation we built with the community
       where the person’s life was stolen.”
       “And it took almost a year for me to realize that this movement
       is much more than a racial and social justice movement,”
       Abdullah said. “At its core, it’s a spiritual movement because
       we’re literally standing on spilled blood.”
       The women proceeded to discuss the meaning behind one of the
       most common chants associated with the Black Lives Matter
       movement: “Say her name.”
       “When we say the names, right, so we speak their names, we say
       her name, say their names, we do that all the time, that you
       kind of invoke that spirit. And then those spirits actually
       become present with you,” Abdullah added.
       Hamilton contended that Abdullah and others “really believe that
       the names of the folks that they are saying have become
       ancestral gods.”
       Cullors said that “spirituality is at the center of Black Lives
       Matter.”
       “I think that’s not just for us. I feel like so many leaders and
       so many organizers are deeply engaged in … a pretty important
       spiritual practice,” she said. “I don’t think … I could do this
       work without that. I don’t think I could do it as long as I’ve
       done it and as consistently. It feels like if I didn’t do that,
       it would be antithetical to this work.”
       Hamilton mentioned the chants as an example of “spiritual
       wickedness” that the Apostle Paul warned about in Ephesians
       6:12.
       In condemning BLM’s spiritual practices, Hamilton cited
       Deuteronomy 18. The Old Testament chapter describes those who
       practice witchcraft or call upon the dead as “detestable to the
       Lord.”
       Before opening up the phone lines to his listeners, Hamilton
       delivered a message to Christians and churches who have embraced
       the Black Lives Matter movement.
       “How can you reconcile that with what the word of God says?” he
       asked. “We have got to evaluate everything through the word of
       God.”
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       BLM leaders are being invited into school classrooms to teach
       this to children.
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: patrick jane Date: September 9, 2020, 9:26 pm
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       Monuments Can Be Destroyed, but Not Forgotten
       Our most controversial stone statues carry layers of communal
       history that aren’t easily cast aside.
       In the Hebrew Scriptures, stone monuments are earthen witnesses
       to a sacred covenant. When Jacob contractually maneuvered
       himself out from under his father-in-law Laban, he set up a
       pillar in the highlands of Gilead. It was supposed to be a
       reminder of a legal separation, but the fragility of the peace
       was underscored by the dueling names given to the monument:
       Jacob’s in the Hebrew tongue, Laban’s in Aramaic. The monument
       was barely dedicated before it became an object of linguistic
       civil war.
       What’s old is new again. Disputes over historical markers and
       their meanings are simply the continuance of culture war by
       other means. Theologian Ryan Andrew Newson wrote his new book
       Cut in Stone: Confederate Monuments and Theological Disruption
       in the wake of the 2017 protests and counter-protests in
       Charlottesville, Virginia. Thousands of organized white
       nationalists infamously marched through the University of
       Virginia campus chanting language—“White Lives Matter!” “Blood
       and Soil!”—charged with centuries of racial supremacy. The
       material cause for the march was the threatened removal of a
       statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee. Erected in 1924,
       the statue presented a genteel, handsome Lee—hat in hand,
       martial but not militaristic. The stone general is resigned but
       undefeated, like the Lost Cause he represents.
       The statue lasted decades in the city center without scrutiny,
       but in the 21st century, it struck some as strange to venerate
       the leader of a rebellion devoted to the preservation of chattel
       slavery. Newson’s book delves into the history of Confederate
       monuments like this one, asking what sort of political
       ideology—or theology—underwrites them. What did these
       monuments—often constructed many decades after Lee resigned at
       Appomattox—mean for the communities that created them? What gave
       them their near-sacred value? And what is the appropriate
       political and theological response to markers of a contested
       American legacy? Can you—should you—erase a moral tragedy?
       Remembering a Tragic History
       When they were originally constructed, monuments to Confederate
       leaders and soldiers were remarkably free of cultural guilt.
       Hundreds of statues appeared in over 30 states in the aftermath
       of Reconstruction, as the South began to rehabilitate its
       image—and historical memory. As Newson points out in fascinating
       detail, the Confederacy was re-memorialized decades after its
       military defeat. Monument construction was most intense from
       1890 to 1950, a span of time that unsurprisingly coincides with
       Jim Crow.
       Other defeated nations and causes have wrestled with how to
       remember a tragic history. Germany after the Second World War
       underwent a therapy of historical penance that continues even
       today. The Confederacy, however, did not. Its monuments served a
       “palliative” purpose, Newson argues, aiming to “alleviate
       collective suffering without addressing the root cause of the
       pain.” So the stone figures stood as reminders of the genteel
       honor and heroic manhood of figures such as Lee, Stonewall
       Jackson, and Jefferson Davis—eliding their militant defense of
       chattel slavery. With these symbolic moves, the memory of
       slavery was quickly shunted into the distant past, even as its
       system of involuntary unpaid labor shifted from the plantation
       to the chain gang in the late-19th century and the systemic
       incarceration of African Americans in the 20th.
       As a historical project, Cut in Stone focuses on the
       Reconstruction-era South, but Newson’s theological analysis
       touches more broadly on the nature of historical memory and the
       moral obligations of a political community that is still haunted
       by the sins of its fathers. Newson’s book was published in the
       middle of the summer of 2020—a wry moment of providence if ever
       there was one. While Charlottesville in 2017 provides the
       backdrop to the book, more recent events have made its subject
       matter even timelier.
       I was invited to review Newson’s book the day that statues of
       Christopher Columbus were removed from Grant Park and Arrigo
       Park in my hometown of Chicago. A week prior, a confrontation
       between protesters and police had centered on the statue in
       Grant Park. As protestors attempted to topple Columbus by force,
       multiple people on both sides of the conflict were injured.
       In the early-20th century, the monuments had been commissioned
       by Italian-American communities in Chicago to memorialize the
       Genoese explorer, who at that time evoked a spirit of
       exploration and American destiny. Forgotten for centuries was
       Columbus’s brutal subjugation of indigenous peoples—not to
       mention the mercenary motivations of his transatlantic voyages.
       There’s a reason political communities—and movements—make myths
       about themselves. And not all of them are formed in malice or
       bad faith. We typically retell the story of the civil rights
       movement in heightened rhetoric that foregrounds its best ideals
       while leaving other details—including the moral peccadillos of
       its leaders—in the shadows. Only recently have we begun to tell
       the stories of grassroots figures like Ida B. Wells and Fannie
       Lou Hamer in addition to chronicling the (sometimes problematic)
       charismatic male leadership of Martin Luther King Jr. and
       Malcolm X. When a narrative has been told for decades, or
       centuries, it takes of lot of intention to reorder historical
       memory.
       In Charlottesville and Chicago, historical myths finally
       cracked. The stone figures of Lee and Columbus, for different
       reasons, were not mere historical memories, but witnesses to
       some deeper sense of national or ethnic identity.
       One of the blind spots of modern liberalism—the political
       philosophy, not the ideology—is its studied obliviousness to the
       sacral elements of social life and national identity. There’s a
       reason that the debate over stone structures reaches the fevered
       pitch that it does. You find out what a community reveres when
       the removal of its earthen symbols triggers charges of
       disrespect, violation, and even blasphemy. You find out what a
       revolution really seeks when you notice what the iconoclasts
       want to destroy.
       Newson is appropriately circumspect when asking what the proper
       social or theological response ought to be toward Confederate
       monuments. There is no way to continue honoring the noblesse
       oblige of figures like Lee and Jackson without resorting to a
       moral naivete that is willfully ignorant of American history.
       The instinct to topple national idols is understandable. But
       does destruction lead to erasure? Is there a reason to remember
       the tragedies of American history in a way that acknowledges the
       complications of the past without giving honor where shame is
       due?
       Handle with Care
       This is where the virtue of prudence comes in handy, as virtues
       do. How do we distinguish among the different symbols—what they
       portray and what they represent for a variety of communities? If
       we decide collectively that honorific statues of Confederate
       military leaders should be removed, or perhaps limited to museum
       exhibits, should we do the same for Christopher Columbus, Thomas
       Jefferson, George Washington, or even Abraham Lincoln? All of
       these figures have come under scrutiny, often for good reasons.
       On July 24th, the day Columbus came down in Chicago, one of the
       protestors made the statement that the statue symbolized
       negative values that the city needed to “acknowledge,” but also
       “divorce ourselves from.” The monument, she said, had “nothing
       to do with where Chicago is going and our future.” But that’s
       the tricky, sometimes awful thing about sacred symbols: Even
       though they are only made of stone, they carry layers of
       communal history that aren’t easily cast aside. Is it important
       to remember what Columbus represented to Italian-Americans at a
       time when they were also the victims of white supremacy? How
       does that piece of history need to be preserved once the idol
       has been toppled?
       Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot explained that the removal was “an
       effort to protect public safety and to preserve a safe space for
       an inclusive and democratic public dialogue about our city's
       symbols.” Which seems quite responsible in such tenuous and
       terrifying times. Putting a hold on things—providing space for
       deliberative liberalism to do what it does best—seems prudent.
       And yet few, on the left or the right, seemed disposed to mimic
       the mayor’s temperament. Charges of lawlessness were thrown from
       one side, and charges of brutality and moral complicity from the
       other. Few seemed satisfied with the mayor’s actions—or if they
       were, they were reluctant to say it publicly.
       Newson’s historical and theological analysis reminds us that a
       statue is rarely just a statue; stone pillars are usually
       consecrated to a cause—for better or worse. And while the past
       few summers of culture-warring haven’t come close to resolving
       every question of whether our most controversial monuments
       should stay up, come down, or go elsewhere, Cut in Stone
       provides a helpful framework for understanding the political and
       theological principles at stake.
       Clearly, sacred objects ought to be handled carefully. And yet,
       sometimes their destruction—as with golden calves or stone
       tablets—is the more meaningful response. If Moses smashed stones
       etched by the divine hand in response to national idolatry, then
       what kind of iconoclasm calls to us today?
       David Henreckson is the director of the Institute for Leadership
       and Service at Valparaiso University. He is the author of The
       Immortal Commonwealth: Covenant, Community, and Political
       Resistance in Early Reformed Thought.
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
       By: guest8 Date: September 10, 2020, 9:09 am
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       date=1599704784]
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       Monuments Can Be Destroyed, but Not Forgotten
       Our most controversial stone statues carry layers of communal
       history that aren’t easily cast aside.
       In the Hebrew Scriptures, stone monuments are earthen witnesses
       to a sacred covenant. When Jacob contractually maneuvered
       himself out from under his father-in-law Laban, he set up a
       pillar in the highlands of Gilead. It was supposed to be a
       reminder of a legal separation, but the fragility of the peace
       was underscored by the dueling names given to the monument:
       Jacob’s in the Hebrew tongue, Laban’s in Aramaic. The monument
       was barely dedicated before it became an object of linguistic
       civil war.
       What’s old is new again. Disputes over historical markers and
       their meanings are simply the continuance of culture war by
       other means. Theologian Ryan Andrew Newson wrote his new book
       Cut in Stone: Confederate Monuments and Theological Disruption
       in the wake of the 2017 protests and counter-protests in
       Charlottesville, Virginia. Thousands of organized white
       nationalists infamously marched through the University of
       Virginia campus chanting language—“White Lives Matter!” “Blood
       and Soil!”—charged with centuries of racial supremacy. The
       material cause for the march was the threatened removal of a
       statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee. Erected in 1924,
       the statue presented a genteel, handsome Lee—hat in hand,
       martial but not militaristic. The stone general is resigned but
       undefeated, like the Lost Cause he represents.
       The statue lasted decades in the city center without scrutiny,
       but in the 21st century, it struck some as strange to venerate
       the leader of a rebellion devoted to the preservation of chattel
       slavery. Newson’s book delves into the history of Confederate
       monuments like this one, asking what sort of political
       ideology—or theology—underwrites them. What did these
       monuments—often constructed many decades after Lee resigned at
       Appomattox—mean for the communities that created them? What gave
       them their near-sacred value? And what is the appropriate
       political and theological response to markers of a contested
       American legacy? Can you—should you—erase a moral tragedy?
       Remembering a Tragic History
       When they were originally constructed, monuments to Confederate
       leaders and soldiers were remarkably free of cultural guilt.
       Hundreds of statues appeared in over 30 states in the aftermath
       of Reconstruction, as the South began to rehabilitate its
       image—and historical memory. As Newson points out in fascinating
       detail, the Confederacy was re-memorialized decades after its
       military defeat. Monument construction was most intense from
       1890 to 1950, a span of time that unsurprisingly coincides with
       Jim Crow.
       Other defeated nations and causes have wrestled with how to
       remember a tragic history. Germany after the Second World War
       underwent a therapy of historical penance that continues even
       today. The Confederacy, however, did not. Its monuments served a
       “palliative” purpose, Newson argues, aiming to “alleviate
       collective suffering without addressing the root cause of the
       pain.” So the stone figures stood as reminders of the genteel
       honor and heroic manhood of figures such as Lee, Stonewall
       Jackson, and Jefferson Davis—eliding their militant defense of
       chattel slavery. With these symbolic moves, the memory of
       slavery was quickly shunted into the distant past, even as its
       system of involuntary unpaid labor shifted from the plantation
       to the chain gang in the late-19th century and the systemic
       incarceration of African Americans in the 20th.
       As a historical project, Cut in Stone focuses on the
       Reconstruction-era South, but Newson’s theological analysis
       touches more broadly on the nature of historical memory and the
       moral obligations of a political community that is still haunted
       by the sins of its fathers. Newson’s book was published in the
       middle of the summer of 2020—a wry moment of providence if ever
       there was one. While Charlottesville in 2017 provides the
       backdrop to the book, more recent events have made its subject
       matter even timelier.
       I was invited to review Newson’s book the day that statues of
       Christopher Columbus were removed from Grant Park and Arrigo
       Park in my hometown of Chicago. A week prior, a confrontation
       between protesters and police had centered on the statue in
       Grant Park. As protestors attempted to topple Columbus by force,
       multiple people on both sides of the conflict were injured.
       In the early-20th century, the monuments had been commissioned
       by Italian-American communities in Chicago to memorialize the
       Genoese explorer, who at that time evoked a spirit of
       exploration and American destiny. Forgotten for centuries was
       Columbus’s brutal subjugation of indigenous peoples—not to
       mention the mercenary motivations of his transatlantic voyages.
       There’s a reason political communities—and movements—make myths
       about themselves. And not all of them are formed in malice or
       bad faith. We typically retell the story of the civil rights
       movement in heightened rhetoric that foregrounds its best ideals
       while leaving other details—including the moral peccadillos of
       its leaders—in the shadows. Only recently have we begun to tell
       the stories of grassroots figures like Ida B. Wells and Fannie
       Lou Hamer in addition to chronicling the (sometimes problematic)
       charismatic male leadership of Martin Luther King Jr. and
       Malcolm X. When a narrative has been told for decades, or
       centuries, it takes of lot of intention to reorder historical
       memory.
       In Charlottesville and Chicago, historical myths finally
       cracked. The stone figures of Lee and Columbus, for different
       reasons, were not mere historical memories, but witnesses to
       some deeper sense of national or ethnic identity.
       One of the blind spots of modern liberalism—the political
       philosophy, not the ideology—is its studied obliviousness to the
       sacral elements of social life and national identity. There’s a
       reason that the debate over stone structures reaches the fevered
       pitch that it does. You find out what a community reveres when
       the removal of its earthen symbols triggers charges of
       disrespect, violation, and even blasphemy. You find out what a
       revolution really seeks when you notice what the iconoclasts
       want to destroy.
       Newson is appropriately circumspect when asking what the proper
       social or theological response ought to be toward Confederate
       monuments. There is no way to continue honoring the noblesse
       oblige of figures like Lee and Jackson without resorting to a
       moral naivete that is willfully ignorant of American history.
       The instinct to topple national idols is understandable. But
       does destruction lead to erasure? Is there a reason to remember
       the tragedies of American history in a way that acknowledges the
       complications of the past without giving honor where shame is
       due?
       Handle with Care
       This is where the virtue of prudence comes in handy, as virtues
       do. How do we distinguish among the different symbols—what they
       portray and what they represent for a variety of communities? If
       we decide collectively that honorific statues of Confederate
       military leaders should be removed, or perhaps limited to museum
       exhibits, should we do the same for Christopher Columbus, Thomas
       Jefferson, George Washington, or even Abraham Lincoln? All of
       these figures have come under scrutiny, often for good reasons.
       On July 24th, the day Columbus came down in Chicago, one of the
       protestors made the statement that the statue symbolized
       negative values that the city needed to “acknowledge,” but also
       “divorce ourselves from.” The monument, she said, had “nothing
       to do with where Chicago is going and our future.” But that’s
       the tricky, sometimes awful thing about sacred symbols: Even
       though they are only made of stone, they carry layers of
       communal history that aren’t easily cast aside. Is it important
       to remember what Columbus represented to Italian-Americans at a
       time when they were also the victims of white supremacy? How
       does that piece of history need to be preserved once the idol
       has been toppled?
       Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot explained that the removal was “an
       effort to protect public safety and to preserve a safe space for
       an inclusive and democratic public dialogue about our city's
       symbols.” Which seems quite responsible in such tenuous and
       terrifying times. Putting a hold on things—providing space for
       deliberative liberalism to do what it does best—seems prudent.
       And yet few, on the left or the right, seemed disposed to mimic
       the mayor’s temperament. Charges of lawlessness were thrown from
       one side, and charges of brutality and moral complicity from the
       other. Few seemed satisfied with the mayor’s actions—or if they
       were, they were reluctant to say it publicly.
       Newson’s historical and theological analysis reminds us that a
       statue is rarely just a statue; stone pillars are usually
       consecrated to a cause—for better or worse. And while the past
       few summers of culture-warring haven’t come close to resolving
       every question of whether our most controversial monuments
       should stay up, come down, or go elsewhere, Cut in Stone
       provides a helpful framework for understanding the political and
       theological principles at stake.
       Clearly, sacred objects ought to be handled carefully. And yet,
       sometimes their destruction—as with golden calves or stone
       tablets—is the more meaningful response. If Moses smashed stones
       etched by the divine hand in response to national idolatry, then
       what kind of iconoclasm calls to us today?
       David Henreckson is the director of the Institute for Leadership
       and Service at Valparaiso University. He is the author of The
       Immortal Commonwealth: Covenant, Community, and Political
       Resistance in Early Reformed Thought.
       [/quote]
       Only in Democratic controls cities.,...
       Blade
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       Re: GEORGE FLOYD - Riots Go Nationwide
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