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The Principle of the Remnant
By: bernardpyron Date: May 26, 2020, 7:57 am
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The Principle of the Remnant
Bernard Pyron
7:45 AM
Paul quotes Isaiah 10: 22-23 in Romans 9: 27. "Esaias also
crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of
Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:"
Isaiah 10: 20-22 says "And it shall come to pass in that day,
that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house
of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but
shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. 21.
The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the
mighty God. 22. For though thy people Israel be as the sand of
the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption
decreed shall overflow with righteousness."
In Romans 9: 30-32 Paul says " What shall we say then? That the
Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained
to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31.
But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath
not attained to the law of righteousness. 32. Wherefore?
Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works
of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;"
Yet it was the remnant of Israel who were transformed by the
giving of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2: 2-13, to began the New
Covenant. The giving of the Holy Spirit to those who believed
Christ and his Gospel was a central part of that New Covenant.
Jeremiah 18: 1-6 predicts that God would remake Israel, but does
not say there exactly how he would do so. It turned out that
God remade Israel by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross and
by the power of his resurrection. And the remaking of Israel
began with the remnant of Israel.
" I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I
also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of
Benjamin. 2. God hath not cast away his people which he
foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he
maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3. Lord,
they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and
I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4. But what saith the
answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand
men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5. Even
so then at this present time also there is a remnant according
to the election of grace. 6. And if by grace, then is it no
more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of
works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7. What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh
for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were
blinded." Romans 11: 1-7
In the New Covenant there is also a remnant, for example, in
Revelation 12: 17, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and
went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the
commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
The presence of a remnant in the Church Period implies that
there is also to be a falling away from sound doctrine (II
Thessalonians 2: 3).
There are statements in scripture on the qualifications for
being in the remnant. "The remnant of Israel shall not do
iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be
found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none
shall make them afraid." Zephaniah 3: 13
"And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without
fault before the throne of God." Revelation 14: 5 Guile is from
δολος, Strong's Greek: 1388, dolos, --
"a bait, fig. craft, deceit." The 144,000 are said to be without
deception. And if we now live close to the last days Christ
spoke about in John 6 we know that we now live in a time of
great deception - the age of deception. Yet the 144,000 as a
remnant is said not to be deceptive.
"These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are
virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he
goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits
unto God and to the Lamb." Revelation 14: 4
The metaphoric meaning then of Revelation 14: 4 is that a
qualification of being in the remnant, the 144,000, is not be be
"defiled" by religion, as it is seen in Revelation 17: 1-6. The
144,000 as the remnant are not in the false doctrines followed
by the multitude.
In history God has several times raised up a remnant, which is
faithful to him, and has used that remnant to begin a new group
of his people. The multitude, which has gone into false
doctrines and false practices, and away from God, is cut off
from God . That multitude, though, has tried to get back its
position with God (Malachi 1: 4).
At the great flood of Noah, God cut off the large multitude of
people and began again with a small remnant, Noah, Noah's wife,
his three sons and their wives. "And Noah went forth, and his
sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him:" Genesis 8: 18
"Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of
God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing,
wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." I Peter
3: 20
Then in I Kings 19 during the time of the apostasy of Ahab and
Jezebel, God told Elijah in I Kings 19: 18, "Yet I have left me
seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed
unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him." God had
preserved a remnant even in the time of the apostasy of Ahab and
Jezebel.
In Romans 11: 4, as part of his statement on a remnant of Old
Covenant Israel accepting Christ, and becoming members of the
elect by grace, Paul quotes I Kings 19: 18. Paul says that in
the remnant, God did not cast away all his people. But as Romans
11: 17-20 says, God did not cut off all of Old Covenant Israel
but cut off only those who were in unbelief, who rejected
Christ.
In Romans 11: 23-24 those of the physical bloodline who come to
accept Christ - they do not continue in unbelief - will be
grafted in. But they are grafted in because of their faith, not
because of their DNA.
Again in the Babylonian captivity of seventy years as judgment
for falling away into false doctrines and practices the
multitude of Old Covenant Israel was left in false doctrines and
in captivity while a remnant was sent back to Jerusalem under
Zerubbabel, Jeshua and Ezra to began Old Covenant Israel anew.
When Christ appeared in human flesh and went to the Cross, God
fulfilled the prophecies of II Kings 21: 13, Isaiah 29: 16, and
Jeremiah 18: 1-6 to turn Jerusalem (Israel) upside down and to
make Israel again "another vessel, as seemed good to the potter
to make it." And in Acts 10 God used Peter to bring the Gospel
to Cornelius, a non-Jew, and his people, beginning the
fulfillment of the prophecy of Hosea 2: 23 to make a people who
were not before the people of God, the people of God. In other
words, non-Jews were to be brought in to Israel reborn in Jesus
Christ.
This cutting off of the multitude who were following the false
doctrines as leaven of the Pharisees (Matthew 16: 6, Luke 12:
1), and beginning a new Israel in the remnant of Romans 11: 5
was a major transformation of Israel from the Old Covenant which
operated in the physical to a New Covenant which operated in the
spiritual. That which was physical under the Old Covenant -
physical bloodline from Abraham, physical circumcision, a
physical temple building, physical animal sacrifice, etc - was
all done away with as shadows (Hebrews 10: 1, Colossians 2: 17).
That which is in the spiritual - in Christ Jesus - became the
substance.
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in
respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath
days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of
Christ." Colossians 2: 16-17
The principle of the remnant is that when the multitude of those
who claim to be the people of God fall away into false
doctrines, God then raises up a remnant to continue his work of
redemption.
The main purpose of the remnant is to continue the redemptive
work of Jesus Christ.
Yet a movement such as the eugenics or population reduction
movement, using massive abortion as only one part of its agenda
of bringing death to many, works against Christian morality.
That movement in its attack upon Christian morality, can be
opposed by the remnant
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Re: The Principle of the Remnant
By: patrick jane Date: August 28, 2020, 3:29 pm
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Good
#Post#: 16785--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Principle of the Remnant
By: guest8 Date: August 28, 2020, 11:11 pm
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[quote author=bernardpyron link=topic=943.msg13518#msg13518
date=1590497879]
The Principle of the Remnant
Bernard Pyron
7:45 AM
Paul quotes Isaiah 10: 22-23 in Romans 9: 27. "Esaias also
crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of
Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:"
Isaiah 10: 20-22 says "And it shall come to pass in that day,
that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house
of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but
shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. 21.
The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the
mighty God. 22. For though thy people Israel be as the sand of
the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption
decreed shall overflow with righteousness."
In Romans 9: 30-32 Paul says " What shall we say then? That the
Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained
to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31.
But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath
not attained to the law of righteousness. 32. Wherefore?
Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works
of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;"
Yet it was the remnant of Israel who were transformed by the
giving of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2: 2-13, to began the New
Covenant. The giving of the Holy Spirit to those who believed
Christ and his Gospel was a central part of that New Covenant.
Jeremiah 18: 1-6 predicts that God would remake Israel, but does
not say there exactly how he would do so. It turned out that
God remade Israel by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross and
by the power of his resurrection. And the remaking of Israel
began with the remnant of Israel.
" I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I
also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of
Benjamin. 2. God hath not cast away his people which he
foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he
maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3. Lord,
they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and
I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4. But what saith the
answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand
men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5. Even
so then at this present time also there is a remnant according
to the election of grace. 6. And if by grace, then is it no
more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of
works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7. What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh
for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were
blinded." Romans 11: 1-7
In the New Covenant there is also a remnant, for example, in
Revelation 12: 17, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and
went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the
commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
The presence of a remnant in the Church Period implies that
there is also to be a falling away from sound doctrine (II
Thessalonians 2: 3).
There are statements in scripture on the qualifications for
being in the remnant. "The remnant of Israel shall not do
iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be
found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none
shall make them afraid." Zephaniah 3: 13
"And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without
fault before the throne of God." Revelation 14: 5 Guile is from
δολος, Strong's Greek: 1388, dolos, --
"a bait, fig. craft, deceit." The 144,000 are said to be without
deception. And if we now live close to the last days Christ
spoke about in John 6 we know that we now live in a time of
great deception - the age of deception. Yet the 144,000 as a
remnant is said not to be deceptive.
"These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are
virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he
goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits
unto God and to the Lamb." Revelation 14: 4
The metaphoric meaning then of Revelation 14: 4 is that a
qualification of being in the remnant, the 144,000, is not be be
"defiled" by religion, as it is seen in Revelation 17: 1-6. The
144,000 as the remnant are not in the false doctrines followed
by the multitude.
In history God has several times raised up a remnant, which is
faithful to him, and has used that remnant to begin a new group
of his people. The multitude, which has gone into false
doctrines and false practices, and away from God, is cut off
from God . That multitude, though, has tried to get back its
position with God (Malachi 1: 4).
At the great flood of Noah, God cut off the large multitude of
people and began again with a small remnant, Noah, Noah's wife,
his three sons and their wives. "And Noah went forth, and his
sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him:" Genesis 8: 18
"Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of
God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing,
wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." I Peter
3: 20
Then in I Kings 19 during the time of the apostasy of Ahab and
Jezebel, God told Elijah in I Kings 19: 18, "Yet I have left me
seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed
unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him." God had
preserved a remnant even in the time of the apostasy of Ahab and
Jezebel.
In Romans 11: 4, as part of his statement on a remnant of Old
Covenant Israel accepting Christ, and becoming members of the
elect by grace, Paul quotes I Kings 19: 18. Paul says that in
the remnant, God did not cast away all his people. But as Romans
11: 17-20 says, God did not cut off all of Old Covenant Israel
but cut off only those who were in unbelief, who rejected
Christ.
In Romans 11: 23-24 those of the physical bloodline who come to
accept Christ - they do not continue in unbelief - will be
grafted in. But they are grafted in because of their faith, not
because of their DNA.
Again in the Babylonian captivity of seventy years as judgment
for falling away into false doctrines and practices the
multitude of Old Covenant Israel was left in false doctrines and
in captivity while a remnant was sent back to Jerusalem under
Zerubbabel, Jeshua and Ezra to began Old Covenant Israel anew.
When Christ appeared in human flesh and went to the Cross, God
fulfilled the prophecies of II Kings 21: 13, Isaiah 29: 16, and
Jeremiah 18: 1-6 to turn Jerusalem (Israel) upside down and to
make Israel again "another vessel, as seemed good to the potter
to make it." And in Acts 10 God used Peter to bring the Gospel
to Cornelius, a non-Jew, and his people, beginning the
fulfillment of the prophecy of Hosea 2: 23 to make a people who
were not before the people of God, the people of God. In other
words, non-Jews were to be brought in to Israel reborn in Jesus
Christ.
This cutting off of the multitude who were following the false
doctrines as leaven of the Pharisees (Matthew 16: 6, Luke 12:
1), and beginning a new Israel in the remnant of Romans 11: 5
was a major transformation of Israel from the Old Covenant which
operated in the physical to a New Covenant which operated in the
spiritual. That which was physical under the Old Covenant -
physical bloodline from Abraham, physical circumcision, a
physical temple building, physical animal sacrifice, etc - was
all done away with as shadows (Hebrews 10: 1, Colossians 2: 17).
That which is in the spiritual - in Christ Jesus - became the
substance.
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in
respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath
days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of
Christ." Colossians 2: 16-17
The principle of the remnant is that when the multitude of those
who claim to be the people of God fall away into false
doctrines, God then raises up a remnant to continue his work of
redemption.
The main purpose of the remnant is to continue the redemptive
work of Jesus Christ.
Yet a movement such as the eugenics or population reduction
movement, using massive abortion as only one part of its agenda
of bringing death to many, works against Christian morality.
That movement in its attack upon Christian morality, can be
opposed by the remnant
[/quote]
Hello bernardpyron, it has been a while. You said:"The presence
of a remnant in the Church Period implies that there is also to
be a falling away from sound doctrine (II Thessalonians 2:
3)."
The Church Period ended with the Rapture in Rev 4.1.... The
woman in Chapter 12 is Israel not the church..."Chuck Smith"
once said: "if it is the church, she is in trouble for she is
pregnant"!
This is the Everlasting Gospel of Daniel's 70th week and the
Millennium.
Blade
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Re: The Principle of the Remnant
By: patrick jane Date: October 29, 2020, 1:41 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=943.msg16785#msg16785
date=1598674262]
[quote author=bernardpyron link=topic=943.msg13518#msg13518
date=1590497879]
The Principle of the Remnant
Bernard Pyron
7:45 AM
Paul quotes Isaiah 10: 22-23 in Romans 9: 27. "Esaias also
crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of
Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:"
Isaiah 10: 20-22 says "And it shall come to pass in that day,
that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house
of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but
shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. 21.
The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the
mighty God. 22. For though thy people Israel be as the sand of
the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption
decreed shall overflow with righteousness."
In Romans 9: 30-32 Paul says " What shall we say then? That the
Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained
to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31.
But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath
not attained to the law of righteousness. 32. Wherefore?
Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works
of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;"
Yet it was the remnant of Israel who were transformed by the
giving of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2: 2-13, to began the New
Covenant. The giving of the Holy Spirit to those who believed
Christ and his Gospel was a central part of that New Covenant.
Jeremiah 18: 1-6 predicts that God would remake Israel, but does
not say there exactly how he would do so. It turned out that
God remade Israel by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross and
by the power of his resurrection. And the remaking of Israel
began with the remnant of Israel.
" I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I
also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of
Benjamin. 2. God hath not cast away his people which he
foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he
maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3. Lord,
they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and
I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4. But what saith the
answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand
men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5. Even
so then at this present time also there is a remnant according
to the election of grace. 6. And if by grace, then is it no
more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of
works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7. What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh
for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were
blinded." Romans 11: 1-7
In the New Covenant there is also a remnant, for example, in
Revelation 12: 17, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and
went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the
commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
The presence of a remnant in the Church Period implies that
there is also to be a falling away from sound doctrine (II
Thessalonians 2: 3).
There are statements in scripture on the qualifications for
being in the remnant. "The remnant of Israel shall not do
iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be
found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none
shall make them afraid." Zephaniah 3: 13
"And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without
fault before the throne of God." Revelation 14: 5 Guile is from
δολος, Strong's Greek: 1388, dolos, --
"a bait, fig. craft, deceit." The 144,000 are said to be without
deception. And if we now live close to the last days Christ
spoke about in John 6 we know that we now live in a time of
great deception - the age of deception. Yet the 144,000 as a
remnant is said not to be deceptive.
"These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are
virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he
goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits
unto God and to the Lamb." Revelation 14: 4
The metaphoric meaning then of Revelation 14: 4 is that a
qualification of being in the remnant, the 144,000, is not be be
"defiled" by religion, as it is seen in Revelation 17: 1-6. The
144,000 as the remnant are not in the false doctrines followed
by the multitude.
In history God has several times raised up a remnant, which is
faithful to him, and has used that remnant to begin a new group
of his people. The multitude, which has gone into false
doctrines and false practices, and away from God, is cut off
from God . That multitude, though, has tried to get back its
position with God (Malachi 1: 4).
At the great flood of Noah, God cut off the large multitude of
people and began again with a small remnant, Noah, Noah's wife,
his three sons and their wives. "And Noah went forth, and his
sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him:" Genesis 8: 18
"Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of
God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing,
wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." I Peter
3: 20
Then in I Kings 19 during the time of the apostasy of Ahab and
Jezebel, God told Elijah in I Kings 19: 18, "Yet I have left me
seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed
unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him." God had
preserved a remnant even in the time of the apostasy of Ahab and
Jezebel.
In Romans 11: 4, as part of his statement on a remnant of Old
Covenant Israel accepting Christ, and becoming members of the
elect by grace, Paul quotes I Kings 19: 18. Paul says that in
the remnant, God did not cast away all his people. But as Romans
11: 17-20 says, God did not cut off all of Old Covenant Israel
but cut off only those who were in unbelief, who rejected
Christ.
In Romans 11: 23-24 those of the physical bloodline who come to
accept Christ - they do not continue in unbelief - will be
grafted in. But they are grafted in because of their faith, not
because of their DNA.
Again in the Babylonian captivity of seventy years as judgment
for falling away into false doctrines and practices the
multitude of Old Covenant Israel was left in false doctrines and
in captivity while a remnant was sent back to Jerusalem under
Zerubbabel, Jeshua and Ezra to began Old Covenant Israel anew.
When Christ appeared in human flesh and went to the Cross, God
fulfilled the prophecies of II Kings 21: 13, Isaiah 29: 16, and
Jeremiah 18: 1-6 to turn Jerusalem (Israel) upside down and to
make Israel again "another vessel, as seemed good to the potter
to make it." And in Acts 10 God used Peter to bring the Gospel
to Cornelius, a non-Jew, and his people, beginning the
fulfillment of the prophecy of Hosea 2: 23 to make a people who
were not before the people of God, the people of God. In other
words, non-Jews were to be brought in to Israel reborn in Jesus
Christ.
This cutting off of the multitude who were following the false
doctrines as leaven of the Pharisees (Matthew 16: 6, Luke 12:
1), and beginning a new Israel in the remnant of Romans 11: 5
was a major transformation of Israel from the Old Covenant which
operated in the physical to a New Covenant which operated in the
spiritual. That which was physical under the Old Covenant -
physical bloodline from Abraham, physical circumcision, a
physical temple building, physical animal sacrifice, etc - was
all done away with as shadows (Hebrews 10: 1, Colossians 2: 17).
That which is in the spiritual - in Christ Jesus - became the
substance.
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in
respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath
days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of
Christ." Colossians 2: 16-17
The principle of the remnant is that when the multitude of those
who claim to be the people of God fall away into false
doctrines, God then raises up a remnant to continue his work of
redemption.
The main purpose of the remnant is to continue the redemptive
work of Jesus Christ.
Yet a movement such as the eugenics or population reduction
movement, using massive abortion as only one part of its agenda
of bringing death to many, works against Christian morality.
That movement in its attack upon Christian morality, can be
opposed by the remnant
[/quote]
Hello bernardpyron, it has been a while. You said:"The presence
of a remnant in the Church Period implies that there is also to
be a falling away from sound doctrine (II Thessalonians 2:
3)."
The Church Period ended with the Rapture in Rev 4.1.... The
woman in Chapter 12 is Israel not the church..."Chuck Smith"
once said: "if it is the church, she is in trouble for she is
pregnant"!
This is the Everlasting Gospel of Daniel's 70th week and the
Millennium.
Blade
[/quote]I see
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Re: The Principle of the Remnant
By: guest8 Date: October 29, 2020, 7:50 pm
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The Principle of the Remnant
Bernard Pyron
7:45 AM
Paul quotes Isaiah 10: 22-23 in Romans 9: 27. "Esaias also
crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of
Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:"
Isaiah 10: 20-22 says "And it shall come to pass in that day,
that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house
of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but
shall stay upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. 21.
The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the
mighty God. 22. For though thy people Israel be as the sand of
the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption
decreed shall overflow with righteousness."
In Romans 9: 30-32 Paul says " What shall we say then? That the
Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained
to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31.
But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath
not attained to the law of righteousness. 32. Wherefore?
Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works
of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;"
Yet it was the remnant of Israel who were transformed by the
giving of the Holy Spirit in Acts 2: 2-13, to began the New
Covenant. The giving of the Holy Spirit to those who believed
Christ and his Gospel was a central part of that New Covenant.
Jeremiah 18: 1-6 predicts that God would remake Israel, but does
not say there exactly how he would do so. It turned out that
God remade Israel by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the Cross and
by the power of his resurrection. And the remaking of Israel
began with the remnant of Israel.
" I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I
also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of
Benjamin. 2. God hath not cast away his people which he
foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he
maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3. Lord,
they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and
I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4. But what saith the
answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand
men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5. Even
so then at this present time also there is a remnant according
to the election of grace. 6. And if by grace, then is it no
more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of
works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7. What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh
for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were
blinded." Romans 11: 1-7
In the New Covenant there is also a remnant, for example, in
Revelation 12: 17, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and
went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the
commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
The presence of a remnant in the Church Period implies that
there is also to be a falling away from sound doctrine (II
Thessalonians 2: 3).
There are statements in scripture on the qualifications for
being in the remnant. "The remnant of Israel shall not do
iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be
found in their mouth: for they shall feed and lie down, and none
shall make them afraid." Zephaniah 3: 13
"And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without
fault before the throne of God." Revelation 14: 5 Guile is from
δολος, Strong's Greek: 1388, dolos, --
"a bait, fig. craft, deceit." The 144,000 are said to be without
deception. And if we now live close to the last days Christ
spoke about in John 6 we know that we now live in a time of
great deception - the age of deception. Yet the 144,000 as a
remnant is said not to be deceptive.
"These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are
virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he
goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits
unto God and to the Lamb." Revelation 14: 4
The metaphoric meaning then of Revelation 14: 4 is that a
qualification of being in the remnant, the 144,000, is not be be
"defiled" by religion, as it is seen in Revelation 17: 1-6. The
144,000 as the remnant are not in the false doctrines followed
by the multitude.
In history God has several times raised up a remnant, which is
faithful to him, and has used that remnant to begin a new group
of his people. The multitude, which has gone into false
doctrines and false practices, and away from God, is cut off
from God . That multitude, though, has tried to get back its
position with God (Malachi 1: 4).
At the great flood of Noah, God cut off the large multitude of
people and began again with a small remnant, Noah, Noah's wife,
his three sons and their wives. "And Noah went forth, and his
sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him:" Genesis 8: 18
"Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of
God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing,
wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." I Peter
3: 20
Then in I Kings 19 during the time of the apostasy of Ahab and
Jezebel, God told Elijah in I Kings 19: 18, "Yet I have left me
seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed
unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him." God had
preserved a remnant even in the time of the apostasy of Ahab and
Jezebel.
In Romans 11: 4, as part of his statement on a remnant of Old
Covenant Israel accepting Christ, and becoming members of the
elect by grace, Paul quotes I Kings 19: 18. Paul says that in
the remnant, God did not cast away all his people. But as Romans
11: 17-20 says, God did not cut off all of Old Covenant Israel
but cut off only those who were in unbelief, who rejected
Christ.
In Romans 11: 23-24 those of the physical bloodline who come to
accept Christ - they do not continue in unbelief - will be
grafted in. But they are grafted in because of their faith, not
because of their DNA.
Again in the Babylonian captivity of seventy years as judgment
for falling away into false doctrines and practices the
multitude of Old Covenant Israel was left in false doctrines and
in captivity while a remnant was sent back to Jerusalem under
Zerubbabel, Jeshua and Ezra to began Old Covenant Israel anew.
When Christ appeared in human flesh and went to the Cross, God
fulfilled the prophecies of II Kings 21: 13, Isaiah 29: 16, and
Jeremiah 18: 1-6 to turn Jerusalem (Israel) upside down and to
make Israel again "another vessel, as seemed good to the potter
to make it." And in Acts 10 God used Peter to bring the Gospel
to Cornelius, a non-Jew, and his people, beginning the
fulfillment of the prophecy of Hosea 2: 23 to make a people who
were not before the people of God, the people of God. In other
words, non-Jews were to be brought in to Israel reborn in Jesus
Christ.
This cutting off of the multitude who were following the false
doctrines as leaven of the Pharisees (Matthew 16: 6, Luke 12:
1), and beginning a new Israel in the remnant of Romans 11: 5
was a major transformation of Israel from the Old Covenant which
operated in the physical to a New Covenant which operated in the
spiritual. That which was physical under the Old Covenant -
physical bloodline from Abraham, physical circumcision, a
physical temple building, physical animal sacrifice, etc - was
all done away with as shadows (Hebrews 10: 1, Colossians 2: 17).
That which is in the spiritual - in Christ Jesus - became the
substance.
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in
respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath
days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of
Christ." Colossians 2: 16-17
The principle of the remnant is that when the multitude of those
who claim to be the people of God fall away into false
doctrines, God then raises up a remnant to continue his work of
redemption.
The main purpose of the remnant is to continue the redemptive
work of Jesus Christ.
Yet a movement such as the eugenics or population reduction
movement, using massive abortion as only one part of its agenda
of bringing death to many, works against Christian morality.
That movement in its attack upon Christian morality, can be
opposed by the remnant
[/quote]
Hello bernardpyron, it has been a while. You said:"The presence
of a remnant in the Church Period implies that there is also to
be a falling away from sound doctrine (II Thessalonians 2:
3)."
The Church Period ended with the Rapture in Rev 4.1.... The
woman in Chapter 12 is Israel not the church..."Chuck Smith"
once said: "if it is the church, she is in trouble for she is
pregnant"!
This is the Everlasting Gospel of Daniel's 70th week and the
Millennium.
Blade
[/quote]I see
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this is wrong, this is "replacement Theology" RUn from it as
fast as you can.
Blade
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