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Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics Move
ment?
By: bernardpyron Date: May 24, 2020, 8:02 pm
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Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
In a comment on the topic, Agenda 21, I discussed a post of mine
that was censored by Facebook, but was unable to find it in its
complete state. I found a similar post of mine to post now.
In the Progressive Era, the liberal Protestants promulgated
eugenics. Only the fundamentalists and the Catholics spoke
against it. American Christianity today is far too weak to
meaningfully oppose eugenics."
Why is American Christianity far too weak to oppose eugenics?
What is Eugenics?
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
"Positive eugenics is aimed at encouraging reproduction among
the genetically advantaged; for example, the reproduction of the
intelligent, the healthy, and the successful." But - the elites
in the corporate and financial world may not want the more
intelligent and healthy people to reproduce too much, because
that can threaten the ruling elite's power.
"The movie Gattaca provides a fictional example of a dystopian
society that uses eugenics to decide what you are capable of and
your place in the world. Negative eugenics aimed to eliminate,
through sterilization or segregation, those deemed physically,
mentally, or morally "undesirable". This includes abortions,
sterilization, and other methods of family planning."
Again, why is American Christianity Not Able To Effectively
Oppose The Eugenics Movement of the Elite?
"And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart
of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and
with all thy soul, that thou mayest live." Deuteronomy 30: 6
"Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins
of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem:
lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench
it, because of the evil of your doings." Jeremiah 4: 4
Romans 11: 28-29 Paul says "For he is not a Jew, which is one
outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the
flesh: 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and
circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the
letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."
"But after that the kindness and love of our saviour God to man
ward appeared, 5 not of the deeds of righteousness which we
wrought, but of his mercy, he saved us, by the fountain of the
new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost." Titus 3:
4-5
"the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the
holy ghost" is from "δια
λουτρου
παλιγγενεσ_
3;ας
και
ανακαινωσε`
9;ς
πνευματος
αγιου." It says "through the washing of
regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit."
Regeneration in Titus 3: 5 is,
παλιγγενεσ_
3;ας,
or paliggenesia, see:
HTML http://biblehub.com/greek/3824.htm
"a new birth, regeneration,
renewal."
I Peter 1: 23, says " Being born again, not of corruptible seed,
but
of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth
for
ever." The Greek word here is
αναγεγεννη_
6;ενο,
or anagennáō, see: Strong's Greek: 313.
ἀναγεννάω
(anagennaó) -- to beget again -
HTML https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/greek/313.html......"
be
born
again, born anew."
The next verse on regeneration is James 1: 18, Of his own will
begat
he us with the word of life, that we should be the first fruits
of his
creatures. " The Greek word relating to regeneration is
απεκυησεν or
apokueoi, to give birth to by the word of truth. Since the word
of
truth is the source of this birth, it is a regeneration.
John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to be
the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13 which
were born
not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will
of man:
but of God."
The key word for regeneration is
εγεννηθησα_
7;,
or gennaó, meaning
"beget, bring forth, give birth to" from:
HTML http://biblehub.com/greek/1080.htm.
Since it says "were born not
of
blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man:
but of God," this is about regeneration by the Holy Spirit.
Romans 12: 2 talks about - the
μεταμορφου`
3;θε
τη
ανακαινωσε_
3;
του νοος- the metamorphosis
by the renewing of your mind.
John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to be the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13
which were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor
yet of the will of man: but of God."
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old
things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." II
Corinthians 5: 17
"Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from
generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27. To whom
God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this
mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of
glory:" Colossians 1: 26-27
See:
HTML https://furtherupandinblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/
regeneration-and-the-problem-with-dispensationalism/
"In a relatively recent “round table” discussion with Sinclair
Ferguson, R.
C. Sproul Jr., and a few others, R. C. Sproul shared an anecdote
of a
conversation he had with some of the faculty of Dallas
Theological Seminary
(historic bastion of dispensationalism) regarding this problem.
In
recounting the conversation, Sproul said the following:
They asked me, “R.C., what’s your problem with
dispensationalism?” And I
said, “You know, my biggest problem with dispensationalism is
your historic
doctrine of regeneration.”And that was met with bewilderment.
These
professors said, “What are you talking about? What’s the problem
with our
view of regeneration?”
I said, “Well, classic dispensationalism teaches that when the
Holy Spirit
regenerates a person, that person does not experience a change
in their
nature. So that you can have the Spirit in you, and you be in a
state of
salvation, without any change in your life whatsoever."
R.C. Sproul said that his judgment was that in dispensationalism
there is
no change in the dispensationalist when he claims to have
received Christ.
Yet it may not only be the dispensationalist who is not
transformed by faith in Christ by the Holy Spirit; it may also
be other Christians who are not transformed.
Knowledge of and the desire to apply Christian Morality depends
upon a person being changed, transformed and spiritually
regenerated by the Gospel of Christ.
Without that spiritual regeneration Christianity is too weak to
show how the the programs of Eugenics are immoral, or to make an
effective argument against eugenics.
#Post#: 13992--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
By: patrick jane Date: June 6, 2020, 2:53 am
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Launch of the phoenix? (protest rituals & the coming "reset",
for the illusion, that is money...)
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k5dXJQuzkY&list=WL&index=22&t=1142s
#Post#: 16770--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
By: patrick jane Date: August 28, 2020, 3:27 pm
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Good
#Post#: 16786--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
By: guest8 Date: August 28, 2020, 11:17 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=bernardpyron link=topic=938.msg13402#msg13402
date=1590368559]
Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
In a comment on the topic, Agenda 21, I discussed a post of mine
that was censored by Facebook, but was unable to find it in its
complete state. I found a similar post of mine to post now.
In the Progressive Era, the liberal Protestants promulgated
eugenics. Only the fundamentalists and the Catholics spoke
against it. American Christianity today is far too weak to
meaningfully oppose eugenics."
Why is American Christianity far too weak to oppose eugenics?
What is Eugenics?
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
"Positive eugenics is aimed at encouraging reproduction among
the genetically advantaged; for example, the reproduction of the
intelligent, the healthy, and the successful." But - the elites
in the corporate and financial world may not want the more
intelligent and healthy people to reproduce too much, because
that can threaten the ruling elite's power.
"The movie Gattaca provides a fictional example of a dystopian
society that uses eugenics to decide what you are capable of and
your place in the world. Negative eugenics aimed to eliminate,
through sterilization or segregation, those deemed physically,
mentally, or morally "undesirable". This includes abortions,
sterilization, and other methods of family planning."
Again, why is American Christianity Not Able To Effectively
Oppose The Eugenics Movement of the Elite?
"And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart
of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and
with all thy soul, that thou mayest live." Deuteronomy 30: 6
"Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins
of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem:
lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench
it, because of the evil of your doings." Jeremiah 4: 4
Romans 11: 28-29 Paul says "For he is not a Jew, which is one
outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the
flesh: 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and
circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the
letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."
"But after that the kindness and love of our saviour God to man
ward appeared, 5 not of the deeds of righteousness which we
wrought, but of his mercy, he saved us, by the fountain of the
new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost." Titus 3:
4-5
"the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the
holy ghost" is from "δια
λουτρου
παλιγγενεσ_
3;ας
και
ανακαινωσε`
9;ς
πνευματος
αγιου." It says "through the washing of
regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit."
Regeneration in Titus 3: 5 is,
παλιγγενεσ_
3;ας,
or paliggenesia, see:
HTML http://biblehub.com/greek/3824.htm
"a new birth, regeneration,
renewal."
I Peter 1: 23, says " Being born again, not of corruptible seed,
but
of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth
for
ever." The Greek word here is
αναγεγεννη_
6;ενο,
or anagennáō, see: Strong's Greek: 313.
ἀναγεννάω
(anagennaó) -- to beget again -
HTML https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/greek/313.html......"
be
born
again, born anew."
The next verse on regeneration is James 1: 18, Of his own will
begat
he us with the word of life, that we should be the first fruits
of his
creatures. " The Greek word relating to regeneration is
απεκυησεν or
apokueoi, to give birth to by the word of truth. Since the word
of
truth is the source of this birth, it is a regeneration.
John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to be
the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13 which
were born
not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will
of man:
but of God."
The key word for regeneration is
εγεννηθησα_
7;,
or gennaó, meaning
"beget, bring forth, give birth to" from:
HTML http://biblehub.com/greek/1080.htm.
Since it says "were born not
of
blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man:
but of God," this is about regeneration by the Holy Spirit.
Romans 12: 2 talks about - the
μεταμορφου`
3;θε
τη
ανακαινωσε_
3;
του νοος- the metamorphosis
by the renewing of your mind.
John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to be the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13
which were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor
yet of the will of man: but of God."
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old
things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." II
Corinthians 5: 17
"Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from
generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27. To whom
God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this
mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of
glory:" Colossians 1: 26-27
See:
HTML https://furtherupandinblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/
regeneration-and-the-problem-with-dispensationalism/
"In a relatively recent “round table” discussion with Sinclair
Ferguson, R.
C. Sproul Jr., and a few others, R. C. Sproul shared an anecdote
of a
conversation he had with some of the faculty of Dallas
Theological Seminary
(historic bastion of dispensationalism) regarding this problem.
In
recounting the conversation, Sproul said the following:
They asked me, “R.C., what’s your problem with
dispensationalism?” And I
said, “You know, my biggest problem with dispensationalism is
your historic
doctrine of regeneration.”And that was met with bewilderment.
These
professors said, “What are you talking about? What’s the problem
with our
view of regeneration?”
I said, “Well, classic dispensationalism teaches that when the
Holy Spirit
regenerates a person, that person does not experience a change
in their
nature. So that you can have the Spirit in you, and you be in a
state of
salvation, without any change in your life whatsoever."
R.C. Sproul said that his judgment was that in dispensationalism
there is
no change in the dispensationalist when he claims to have
received Christ.
Yet it may not only be the dispensationalist who is not
transformed by faith in Christ by the Holy Spirit; it may also
be other Christians who are not transformed.
Knowledge of and the desire to apply Christian Morality depends
upon a person being changed, transformed and spiritually
regenerated by the Gospel of Christ.
Without that spiritual regeneration Christianity is too weak to
show how the the programs of Eugenics are immoral, or to make an
effective argument against eugenics.
[/quote]
Ah, the days of Noah!
Blade
#Post#: 19792--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
By: patrick jane Date: October 29, 2020, 1:41 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=938.msg16786#msg16786
date=1598674648]
[quote author=bernardpyron link=topic=938.msg13402#msg13402
date=1590368559]
Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
In a comment on the topic, Agenda 21, I discussed a post of mine
that was censored by Facebook, but was unable to find it in its
complete state. I found a similar post of mine to post now.
In the Progressive Era, the liberal Protestants promulgated
eugenics. Only the fundamentalists and the Catholics spoke
against it. American Christianity today is far too weak to
meaningfully oppose eugenics."
Why is American Christianity far too weak to oppose eugenics?
What is Eugenics?
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
"Positive eugenics is aimed at encouraging reproduction among
the genetically advantaged; for example, the reproduction of the
intelligent, the healthy, and the successful." But - the elites
in the corporate and financial world may not want the more
intelligent and healthy people to reproduce too much, because
that can threaten the ruling elite's power.
"The movie Gattaca provides a fictional example of a dystopian
society that uses eugenics to decide what you are capable of and
your place in the world. Negative eugenics aimed to eliminate,
through sterilization or segregation, those deemed physically,
mentally, or morally "undesirable". This includes abortions,
sterilization, and other methods of family planning."
Again, why is American Christianity Not Able To Effectively
Oppose The Eugenics Movement of the Elite?
"And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart
of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and
with all thy soul, that thou mayest live." Deuteronomy 30: 6
"Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins
of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem:
lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench
it, because of the evil of your doings." Jeremiah 4: 4
Romans 11: 28-29 Paul says "For he is not a Jew, which is one
outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the
flesh: 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and
circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the
letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."
"But after that the kindness and love of our saviour God to man
ward appeared, 5 not of the deeds of righteousness which we
wrought, but of his mercy, he saved us, by the fountain of the
new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost." Titus 3:
4-5
"the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the
holy ghost" is from "δια
λουτρου
παλιγγενεσ_
3;ας
και
ανακαινωσε`
9;ς
πνευματος
αγιου." It says "through the washing of
regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit."
Regeneration in Titus 3: 5 is,
παλιγγενεσ_
3;ας,
or paliggenesia, see:
HTML http://biblehub.com/greek/3824.htm
"a new birth, regeneration,
renewal."
I Peter 1: 23, says " Being born again, not of corruptible seed,
but
of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth
for
ever." The Greek word here is
αναγεγεννη_
6;ενο,
or anagennáō, see: Strong's Greek: 313.
ἀναγεννάω
(anagennaó) -- to beget again -
HTML https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/greek/313.html......"
be
born
again, born anew."
The next verse on regeneration is James 1: 18, Of his own will
begat
he us with the word of life, that we should be the first fruits
of his
creatures. " The Greek word relating to regeneration is
απεκυησεν or
apokueoi, to give birth to by the word of truth. Since the word
of
truth is the source of this birth, it is a regeneration.
John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to be
the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13 which
were born
not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will
of man:
but of God."
The key word for regeneration is
εγεννηθησα_
7;,
or gennaó, meaning
"beget, bring forth, give birth to" from:
HTML http://biblehub.com/greek/1080.htm.
Since it says "were born not
of
blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man:
but of God," this is about regeneration by the Holy Spirit.
Romans 12: 2 talks about - the
μεταμορφου`
3;θε
τη
ανακαινωσε_
3;
του νοος- the metamorphosis
by the renewing of your mind.
John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to be the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13
which were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor
yet of the will of man: but of God."
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old
things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." II
Corinthians 5: 17
"Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from
generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27. To whom
God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this
mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of
glory:" Colossians 1: 26-27
See:
HTML https://furtherupandinblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/
regeneration-and-the-problem-with-dispensationalism/
"In a relatively recent “round table” discussion with Sinclair
Ferguson, R.
C. Sproul Jr., and a few others, R. C. Sproul shared an anecdote
of a
conversation he had with some of the faculty of Dallas
Theological Seminary
(historic bastion of dispensationalism) regarding this problem.
In
recounting the conversation, Sproul said the following:
They asked me, “R.C., what’s your problem with
dispensationalism?” And I
said, “You know, my biggest problem with dispensationalism is
your historic
doctrine of regeneration.”And that was met with bewilderment.
These
professors said, “What are you talking about? What’s the problem
with our
view of regeneration?”
I said, “Well, classic dispensationalism teaches that when the
Holy Spirit
regenerates a person, that person does not experience a change
in their
nature. So that you can have the Spirit in you, and you be in a
state of
salvation, without any change in your life whatsoever."
R.C. Sproul said that his judgment was that in dispensationalism
there is
no change in the dispensationalist when he claims to have
received Christ.
Yet it may not only be the dispensationalist who is not
transformed by faith in Christ by the Holy Spirit; it may also
be other Christians who are not transformed.
Knowledge of and the desire to apply Christian Morality depends
upon a person being changed, transformed and spiritually
regenerated by the Gospel of Christ.
Without that spiritual regeneration Christianity is too weak to
show how the the programs of Eugenics are immoral, or to make an
effective argument against eugenics.
[/quote]
Ah, the days of Noah!
Blade
[/quote]Amazing time to be in the earth Bladey Boy
#Post#: 19806--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
By: guest8 Date: October 29, 2020, 8:10 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=938.msg19792#msg19792
date=1603996910]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=938.msg16786#msg16786
date=1598674648]
[quote author=bernardpyron link=topic=938.msg13402#msg13402
date=1590368559]
Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
Movement?
In a comment on the topic, Agenda 21, I discussed a post of mine
that was censored by Facebook, but was unable to find it in its
complete state. I found a similar post of mine to post now.
In the Progressive Era, the liberal Protestants promulgated
eugenics. Only the fundamentalists and the Catholics spoke
against it. American Christianity today is far too weak to
meaningfully oppose eugenics."
Why is American Christianity far too weak to oppose eugenics?
What is Eugenics?
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
"Positive eugenics is aimed at encouraging reproduction among
the genetically advantaged; for example, the reproduction of the
intelligent, the healthy, and the successful." But - the elites
in the corporate and financial world may not want the more
intelligent and healthy people to reproduce too much, because
that can threaten the ruling elite's power.
"The movie Gattaca provides a fictional example of a dystopian
society that uses eugenics to decide what you are capable of and
your place in the world. Negative eugenics aimed to eliminate,
through sterilization or segregation, those deemed physically,
mentally, or morally "undesirable". This includes abortions,
sterilization, and other methods of family planning."
Again, why is American Christianity Not Able To Effectively
Oppose The Eugenics Movement of the Elite?
"And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart
of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and
with all thy soul, that thou mayest live." Deuteronomy 30: 6
"Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins
of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem:
lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench
it, because of the evil of your doings." Jeremiah 4: 4
Romans 11: 28-29 Paul says "For he is not a Jew, which is one
outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the
flesh: 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and
circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the
letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."
"But after that the kindness and love of our saviour God to man
ward appeared, 5 not of the deeds of righteousness which we
wrought, but of his mercy, he saved us, by the fountain of the
new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost." Titus 3:
4-5
"the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the
holy ghost" is from "δια
λουτρου
παλιγγενεσ_
3;ας
και
ανακαινωσε`
9;ς
πνευματος
αγιου." It says "through the washing of
regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit."
Regeneration in Titus 3: 5 is,
παλιγγενεσ_
3;ας,
or paliggenesia, see:
HTML http://biblehub.com/greek/3824.htm
"a new birth, regeneration,
renewal."
I Peter 1: 23, says " Being born again, not of corruptible seed,
but
of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth
for
ever." The Greek word here is
αναγεγεννη_
6;ενο,
or anagennáō, see: Strong's Greek: 313.
ἀναγεννάω
(anagennaó) -- to beget again -
HTML https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/greek/313.html......"
be
born
again, born anew."
The next verse on regeneration is James 1: 18, Of his own will
begat
he us with the word of life, that we should be the first fruits
of his
creatures. " The Greek word relating to regeneration is
απεκυησεν or
apokueoi, to give birth to by the word of truth. Since the word
of
truth is the source of this birth, it is a regeneration.
John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to be
the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13 which
were born
not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will
of man:
but of God."
The key word for regeneration is
εγεννηθησα_
7;,
or gennaó, meaning
"beget, bring forth, give birth to" from:
HTML http://biblehub.com/greek/1080.htm.
Since it says "were born not
of
blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor yet of the will of man:
but of God," this is about regeneration by the Holy Spirit.
Romans 12: 2 talks about - the
μεταμορφου`
3;θε
τη
ανακαινωσε_
3;
του νοος- the metamorphosis
by the renewing of your mind.
John 1: 13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power
to be the sons of God: in that they believed on his name: 13
which were born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh, nor
yet of the will of man: but of God."
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old
things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." II
Corinthians 5: 17
"Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from
generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: 27. To whom
God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this
mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of
glory:" Colossians 1: 26-27
See:
HTML https://furtherupandinblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/11/
regeneration-and-the-problem-with-dispensationalism/
"In a relatively recent “round table” discussion with Sinclair
Ferguson, R.
C. Sproul Jr., and a few others, R. C. Sproul shared an anecdote
of a
conversation he had with some of the faculty of Dallas
Theological Seminary
(historic bastion of dispensationalism) regarding this problem.
In
recounting the conversation, Sproul said the following:
They asked me, “R.C., what’s your problem with
dispensationalism?” And I
said, “You know, my biggest problem with dispensationalism is
your historic
doctrine of regeneration.”And that was met with bewilderment.
These
professors said, “What are you talking about? What’s the problem
with our
view of regeneration?”
I said, “Well, classic dispensationalism teaches that when the
Holy Spirit
regenerates a person, that person does not experience a change
in their
nature. So that you can have the Spirit in you, and you be in a
state of
salvation, without any change in your life whatsoever."
R.C. Sproul said that his judgment was that in dispensationalism
there is
no change in the dispensationalist when he claims to have
received Christ.
Yet it may not only be the dispensationalist who is not
transformed by faith in Christ by the Holy Spirit; it may also
be other Christians who are not transformed.
Knowledge of and the desire to apply Christian Morality depends
upon a person being changed, transformed and spiritually
regenerated by the Gospel of Christ.
Without that spiritual regeneration Christianity is too weak to
show how the the programs of Eugenics are immoral, or to make an
effective argument against eugenics.
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Ah, the days of Noah!
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[/quote]Amazing time to be in the earth Bladey Boy
[/quote]
The Lord GOD Jesus took care of them once in the days of Noah
and He will do it again.
Have faith my friend.
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We're all in this [eugenics war] together...
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12 minutes
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Re: Is Protestant Christianity Too Weak to Defeat the Eugenics
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By: guest8 Date: May 8, 2021, 8:39 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=938.msg28994#msg28994
date=1620519719]
We're all in this [eugenics war] together...
All donations to Revelations Radio News podcast over $25 get a
Free Copy of The New World Order and the Eugenics Wars by Andrew
Hoffman. Info at -
HTML https://revelationsradionews.com/support/
12 minutes
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHh6EbIp3AA
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it is rather hard to defeat what is predestined...
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