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   DIR Return to: BIBLE STUDY - From The Late Lori Bolinger
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       Are we born into a sinful world or are we born sinning?
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: April 22, 2020, 8:47 am
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       As I read
       I John 2:16
       For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the
       lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father,
       but is of the world.
       the only thing that seems to make sence is that we are born into
       a sinful world, that we are tempted from the get go to sin, but
       NOT that we are born sinning.  Change my mind.
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       Re: Are we born into a sinful world or are we born sinning?
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: April 22, 2020, 7:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: Lori Bolinger link ---
       >
       > As I read
       >
       > I John 2:16
       >
       > For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the
       lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father,
       but is of the world.
       >
       >
       >
       > the only thing that seems to make sence is that we are born
       into a sinful world, that we are tempted from the get go to sin,
       but NOT that we are born sinning.  Change my mind.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       why change you mind. We were all born with a "Sin Nature" but we
       are born free of sin....the father's sins cannot be translated
       to the son/daughter.
       Deuteronomy 24:16..(KJV)..[b]"The fathers shall not be put to
       death for the children, neither shall the children be put to
       death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his
       own sin."[/b]
       Blade
       #Post#: 12313--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Are we born into a sinful world or are we born sinning?
   DIR By: guest24
       Date: April 23, 2020, 7:17 am
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       So Blade, you agree that we are NOT born sinning....cool, it's
       nice to find something we agree on without a lot of nonsense
       standing in the way of communicating that.
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       Re: Are we born into a sinful world or are we born sinning?
   DIR By: guest116
       Date: April 23, 2020, 9:01 pm
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       This is an interesting question.  It raises the issues of
       traditional philosophy verses philosophy that that is
       theological driven.  I had one professor who thought that we are
       all born in sin because we are all decedent from adam and eve
       and since they sinned we are born in sin.
       At the same time, my philosophy professor believed we are all
       born blank slates and have not sinned or done good.  Further, we
       are not good or evil,  but he does accept the thought that some
       are born in a way to be "mail ad see"
       With this all input it has always been my feelings we are born
       in God's grace, but we are a blank slate to be molded as we
       grow.
       #Post#: 12334--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Are we born into a sinful world or are we born sinning?
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: April 23, 2020, 10:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Chaplain Mark Schmidt link ---
       >
       > This is an interesting question.  It raises the issues of
       traditional philosophy verses philosophy that that is
       theological driven.  I had one professor who thought that we are
       all born in sin because we are all decedent from adam and eve
       and since they sinned we are born in sin.
       >
       > At the same time, my philosophy professor believed we are all
       born blank slates and have not sinned or done good.  Further, we
       are not good or evil,  but he does accept the thought that some
       are born in a way to be "mail ad see"
       >
       > With this all input it has always been my feelings we are born
       in God's grace, but we are a blank slate to be molded as we
       grow.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mark, I agree that we are not born in the sin of Adam and
       EVE...but rather have a Sin Nature (in the Blood) for each and
       every one of us. one more verse to help clear it up?
       Rom 9:11..(KJV).."though they were not yet born and had done
       nothing either good or bad—in order that God’s purpose of
       election might continue, not because of works but because of him
       who calls—"
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       Re: Are we born into a sinful world or are we born sinning?
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: October 2, 2020, 11:54 am
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       ;)
       #Post#: 30322--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Are we born into a sinful world or are we born sinning?
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: May 27, 2021, 5:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > ;)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
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