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       By: patrick jane Date: May 10, 2021, 6:34 pm
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       Ten Things That Aren't Evangelism
       What does it mean for 21st century people to engage in
       evangelism?
       In Act II, Scene II of the classic work, ‘Romeo and Juliet’,
       there is a famous conversation between the couple. They love
       each other and want to be together, but they carry the burden of
       their surnames, and this means that they will be apart forever.
       In the midst of this complicated mix of feelings and emotions,
       Juliet uses a metaphor to persuade Romeo that their names do not
       matter; she says that if a rose had another name, it would still
       produce the same perfume. I believe that evangelism has a
       similar dynamic, because although the name comes with a full
       range of feelings, pre-concepts, fears and worldviews, it’s true
       nature, motivations and purpose, go beyond any word that we can
       use to name it.
       It is time for people to understand what evangelism is, and what
       it means for the church of the 21st Century to engage in
       evangelism. So, to begin to ‘stir this pot’ I would like to
       introduce 10 things that evangelism is not.
       1. Evangelism is not supposed to be complicated.
       One of the first things that comes to people’s minds when they
       hear the “E” word, is “it’s complicated”, but the fact is that
       this is not true. Evangelism is not complicated; it is simply to
       share with the world the life that you have found in Jesus.
       There are three people who, in a very natural way, carried out
       evangelism in the New Testament, but who many people don’t
       recognise as engaging in evangelism. They are the blind man, the
       demon-possessed man of Gadarene, and the Samaritan women. None
       of them knew Jesus for a long time, or had much, if any,
       training. But they were willing to share the difference that
       Jesus had made in their lives and that is what it is to
       evangelise - to share who Jesus is and to share what difference
       He is making in our lives.
       2. Evangelism is not supposed to be born out of guilt.
       We don’t evangelise to be saved or to earn salvation, but
       because we are saved. Some Christians share the Gospel only
       because of internal pressure and because they feel obliged to
       repay the debt that Jesus paid when He went to the cross – this
       feeling is based in guilt. In reality though, evangelism is a
       response to His love and forgiveness, that rises up in us
       because we want everyone to experience the same level of
       abundant life that we are experiencing. This removes the need
       for guilt and leaves only a place for loving obedience.
       3. Evangelism is not supposed to be a response to external
       pressure.
       We shouldn’t evangelise because people around us are pressuring
       us to do it, but because Jesus released us and sends us to share
       the good news. Any motive that is not from God or Godly is a
       wrong motive. Your friends, church leaders and family should
       encourage you and cheer you on in your evangelism and ministry,
       but that should never become an external pressure to “make” you
       go and share. Remember that Jesus is freedom, and it is
       important that we share because we are free to do so. At the
       heart of evangelism is the truth that because love has found us,
       we now want to share this love with the world.
       4. Evangelism is not to bullying, coercing or convincing people.
       We don’t bully people into accepting the gospel. Evangelism
       should never be an ‘act of terror’ and we definitely shouldn’t
       try to coerce anyone into becoming a Christian. In the past I
       was a victim of ‘terror evangelism’; while I was still an
       atheist, I was the target of many people who knocked at my door
       asking: “Do you know that if you die today you will go to hell
       and burn forever?” I don’t know if you have ever had an
       experience like this, or if, like me, you were the target of
       something similar, but I have never met anyone who came to Jesus
       because of this kind of evangelism.
       It is not our role in evangelism to convince people. Yes! I will
       write it again to help people to be released from this burden!
       It is not your role to convince people; that role belongs to the
       Holy Spirit. Although we need to be ready to give the reason for
       our faith, the Holy Spirit is the one who convinces, and He is
       very good at doing that! Our role is to present and proclaim
       Christ to the world, everything else is the work of the Holy
       Spirit.
       5. Evangelism is not the marketing of your local church.
       It’s ok that you like your local church, and it’s ok to invite
       people to come along, but this is not evangelism. Many churches
       think that to invite people to an event or service is
       evangelism, but this is not the case. Evangelism is to share the
       good news of Jesus and His story, with the world. It’s not wrong
       to offer an invitation or to be willing to bring people to our
       local churches, but what changes people’s lives is the gospel,
       and that’s what we need to be actively sharing!
       6. Evangelism is not to critique other religions, other churches
       or other church leaders.
       Evangelism is not to critique other religions, or other churches
       and their leaders. We don’t waste time sharing what we are not,
       but instead, spend our time sharing who Jesus is and what He has
       done for each and every one of us. Don’t waste the precious time
       that you have to talk about the King, with talking instead about
       your views of other people and religions.
       7. Evangelism is about more than technique.
       Technique is not wrong, but if God is in it, any technique will
       work. The three unusual people who were engaged in evangelism
       that I mentioned in the first point, didn’t have any technique,
       but even so, many people believed in Jesus because they shared
       the life that they had found in Him. Every church and
       organisation will have their own technique, and although I
       strongly recommend that you should support and get involved in
       the technique of your local church (if it is sound and
       biblical), remember that this is only one way in which to
       communicate the precious, unchangeable, good news of Christ.
       8. Evangelism does not begin from a position of superiority.
       We don’t engage in evangelism or in evangelistic activities
       because we are the saved ones who go to those who are less than
       us. Spurgeon said that evangelism is “one beggar telling another
       beggar where to find bread”. We go to others because we have
       received, and we are commissioned to go, not because of any
       merit or status of our own.
       9. Evangelism is not supposed to be unloving.
       There is no true evangelism that exists without love. That is
       how the world will know that we are His disciples. When the
       message of the gospel reaches us, it transforms us, and this
       love will break the cycle of indifference and inertia in our
       lives, so that we are unleashed into the world, to do as Jesus
       did.
       10. Evangelism is not an activity, but a way of life.
       I don’t do evangelism just as an activity on “Saturday at 3pm”.
       In fact, I don’t ‘do’ evangelism at all! We can go for a walk
       and distribute flyers as a one-off event, but evangelism is so
       much more than this – it is sharing life and we should do that
       in our lives in natural ways; it is part of who we are and what
       we do as Christians. We share about Jesus and the difference
       that He has made in us, and that can never be an isolated
       activity, but instead must grow to become something that is part
       of everything that we are and do.
       Luiz F. Cardoso, missiologist, writer and local pastor. He is
       the Advance Development Manager at the message trust, pastor of
       Connect Church in Stockport - UK and the director of the Global
       Network of Evangelism for the Portuguese speaking world. He did
       his B.A. in theology in Sao Paulo - Brazil and the M.A. in
       mission in the University of Manchester. Luiz has been married
       to his wife Dani for 20 years; they have two boys together.
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       Re: The fearless evangelist
       By: patrick jane Date: June 16, 2021, 12:31 pm
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       Meet the Conservative Evangelicals Practicing ‘Strategic
       Hibernation’ in the American Northwest
       They might embrace their marginal status, but they don’t plan on
       staying marginal forever.
       In September 2020, about 150 Christians gathered to stage an
       informal Psalm Sing in the parking lot of Moscow, Idaho’s city
       hall. They were there to protest the local mask mandate.
       Five individuals were cited by police for violating the local
       order to wear masks, and two were arrested “for suspicion of
       resisting or obstructing an officer.” One of the event’s
       organizers was Douglas Wilson, pastor of Christ Church in
       Moscow, a 900-member congregation with historical connections to
       Christian Reconstructionism (also known as theonomy), a movement
       that hopes to see earthly society governed by biblical law. One
       month earlier on Twitter, Wilson had framed his concerns about
       the issue in revealing terms: “Too few see the masking orders
       for what they ultimately are. Our modern and very swollen state
       wants to get the largest possible number of people to get used
       to putting up with the most manifest lies.”
       In Survival and Resistance in Evangelical America: Christian
       Reconstruction in the Pacific Northwest, historian Crawford
       Gribben recounts how in recent decades conservative
       evangelicals, inspired by assorted strands of theonomy and
       survivalism, came to settle in the Pacific Northwest. Gribben
       explores how this group of “born-again Protestants who embrace
       their marginal status” has thrived in the wilds of Idaho and
       adjoining states, proposing “strategies of survival, resistance,
       and reconstruction in evangelical America.”
       Turning toward triumphalism
       Gribben describes his book as a “social history of theological
       ideas” based on long-distance interviews of several subjects and
       in-person fieldwork. Rather than crafting a journalistic exposé
       or a theological critique, Gribben employs “biographical,
       institutional, or thematic” approaches.
       Previous accounts of Christian Reconstructionists have tended to
       focus on these believers’ theocratic vision of a future
       Christian polity rather than their separation from mainstream
       society. Today, Gribben concludes, these practitioners of
       “strategies of hibernation” may no longer be as marginal as some
       have assumed. In a series of illuminating chapters, Gribben
       astutely examines the history of theonomist migration to the
       Northwest, the eschatological assumptions underlying the
       original Reconstructionist vision, theonomic political theory,
       the movement’s influential educational ideas, and its thoughtful
       and innovative use of publishing and electronic media.
       For these theonomists, present-day survivalism is closely linked
       to a future reconstruction of a godly society and Christianity’s
       earthly triumph. Theonomy is a diverse theological movement,
       arising within a conservative Reformed milieu. Its central ideas
       were first articulated by Rousas John Rushdoony, a
       California-based Presbyterian pastor and the son of Armenian
       immigrants. Gary North, Rushdoony’s estranged son-in-law, is one
       of many to carry its banner forward into the 21st century.
       Although theonomy first gained notoriety through its bold
       application of Mosaic law to the existing political order, more
       recent adherents have often sanded down its sharp edges.
       Among the most intriguing features of Reconstructionism is its
       view of human history as it relates to Christ’s second coming.
       For much of the 20th century, American evangelicals were mainly
       premillennialists, believing Jesus would return to earth before
       inaugurating a thousand-year reign of peace and prosperity (the
       Millennium). Premillennialism went hand in hand with pessimism
       about existing social conditions—if Christ needed to come before
       things would get better, then why waste much energy on making
       them better in the here and now? By the 1970s, works like Hal
       Lindsey’s best-selling The Late Great Planet Earth had
       popularized a premillennial eschatology that stressed cultural
       and moral decline and applied apocalyptic prophecies to the Cold
       War.
       Rushdoony challenged this dominant paradigm in the early 1970s,
       shifting toward a postmillennial view that saw the earthly
       progress of Christianity as a precursor to Christ’s return.
       First in a biblical commentary and then in volume 1 of his
       magnum opus, the pretentiously titled The Institutes of Biblical
       Law, Rushdoony argued that most believers lacked faith in
       Christianity’s ultimate triumph. “The whole of Scripture,” he
       countered, “proclaims the certainty of God’s victory in time and
       in eternity” (emphasis mine). The saints were called upon to
       fight for a Christian society here and now, and their victory in
       this world was assured.
       The unalloyed triumphalism of Reconstructionism appealed to some
       disheartened evangelicals. Douglas Wilson’s evolving theology
       was shaped by Rushdoony’s postmillennial vision, although he has
       subtly distanced himself from the more extreme aspects of
       Rushdoony’s application of ancient Israel’s legal code. Because
       of years of hard work by Wilson and his followers, Gribben
       argues, “Moscow may now be America’s most postmillennial town,”
       with two large, thriving Reconstructionist congregations and
       members who play important roles in the town’s social and
       economic life.
       In his chapter on the Reconstructionist understanding of
       government, Gribben carefully examines the historical origins of
       the movement’s odd coupling of Old Testament legal codes and
       libertarian politics. While other evangelicals were being drawn
       to Barry Goldwater’s 1964 presidential campaign, Rushdoony began
       working for the conservative William Volker Charities Fund. The
       Fund played a key role in getting libertarian economist
       Friedrich Hayek appointed to the faculty of the University of
       Chicago, and it embraced Hayek’s anti-statism.
       While Rushdoony advocated the adoption of Mosaic civil law in a
       reconstructed Christian political order (including stoning those
       who engaged in homosexual behavior or disrespected their
       parents), he also embraced a small-government model that would
       have warmed the heart of Thomas Jefferson. Theonomy’s focus on
       Old Testament regulations has had little impact on conservative
       public policy, but Rushdoony and North’s tireless efforts to
       reconcile Christian principles with libertarian governing
       philosophies have been quite influential among some Christian
       conservatives.
       Reconstructionists have also shaped evangelical educational
       theory. Rushdoony first gained attention with his forceful
       critique of public education. Inspired by theologian Cornelius
       Van Til’s argument that a neutral philosophical perspective was
       impossible and that secular and Christian approaches were
       fundamentally incompatible, Rushdoony advocated Christian
       alternatives.
       By the 1990s, Wilson had become a widely acknowledged authority
       on homeschooling, promoting a classical curriculum based loosely
       on Dorothy Sayers’s previously neglected essay, The Lost Tools
       of Learning (1947). Moreover, Wilson helped found both a
       seminary and a small residential liberal arts college
       (ambitiously christened New Saint Andrews) in Moscow. Pacific
       Northwest theonomists separated themselves from the public
       school system as part of their strategy to transform society at
       large. “Before we can enlist in the culture war,” Wilson
       commented, “we have to have a culture. And that culture must be
       Christian.”
       To promote their educational ideas and socially conservative
       vision, Wilson and company have creatively used both
       conventional book publishing (establishing Canon Press) and the
       internet. Behind all these ambitious efforts is the ultimate
       goal of cultural renewal or reconstruction. As the community’s
       organ, Credenda Agenda, put it bluntly, publishing “is warfare.”
       This campaign included a well-publicized series of debates
       between Wilson and atheist journalist Christopher Hitchens in
       2009 over whether Christianity has been good for the world.
       (Gribben mentions the interaction with Hitchens at least five
       times.)
       Gribben’s study is a welcome contribution to our understanding
       of the theonomist movement. His dispassionate, non-alarmist
       account allows the participants to speak for themselves.
       Occasionally, however, Gribben seems reluctant to pursue more
       searching questions, and his appraisal can sometimes be muted.
       It provides little comfort, for instance, when Gribben reassures
       readers that while Rushdoony “may not have approved of
       democracy,” he didn’t actually “approve of its violent
       subversion.” Allowing subjects to speak for themselves can
       periodically wander toward accepting their self-portraits.
       Still, Gribben handles complex cultural and theological
       questions deftly and with admirable sensitivity.
       Two questions
       Survival and Resistance in Evangelical America raises a host of
       fascinating questions that no single work of this sort can
       answer. Two such questions spring to mind.
       First, despite all their dismissals of benighted pietism, isn’t
       it ironic that Rushdoony, North, and Wilson all ended up
       following 20th-century evangelicals in disparaging state
       intervention and embracing libertarianism? Despite the
       theonomists’ reverence for the Puritans, libertarian assumptions
       appear to trump the Puritans’ focus on the common good and their
       conception of the state as a moral agent. As such, their
       theonomy appears to owe more to Rand Paul than to, say, the
       Massachusetts Bay Colony’s first governor, John Winthrop. In
       this sense, is it really accurate to affirm, as Gribben does,
       that “the Moscow community … has successfully resisted American
       modernity”?
       Second, and more broadly, while theonomy has certainly proven
       influential in ways unrecognized by scholars, just how seriously
       should Christians take its theological and social project?
       Evangelicals can sometimes be taken in by the appearance of
       scholarship. Answering those who claimed theonomists were
       weighty thinkers, former First Things editor Richard John
       Neuhaus once commented acerbically:
       One might object that the argumentation of the theonomists is
       more often obsessive and fevered than well-reasoned, and the
       pedantry of bloated footnoting should not be mistaken for
       scholarship. One may also be permitted to doubt whether there
       is, in the explosion of theonomic writing, one major new idea or
       finding that anyone outside theonomy’s presuppositional circle
       need feel obliged to take seriously.
       Though downplayed by Gribben, Rushdoony’s circle of fellow
       travelers should give any thoughtful Christian considerable
       pause. To note only a few red flags: In the first volume of his
       Institutes, Rushdoony appeared to flirt with Holocaust denial.
       Years later, he promoted the work of a writer who endorsed
       geostationary theory, which denies that the earth orbits around
       the sun. Gary North was among the most alarmist and apocalyptic
       of the Y2K prophets—at least until the clock struck midnight at
       the close of 1999. More recently, Wilson authored a booklet,
       Black & Tan, that adopted discredited Lost Cause views regarding
       secession and described the allegedly benign features of
       antebellum slavery. It is easy (especially in the age of
       Twitter) to confuse quantity with quality and strong opinions
       with wisdom.
       Biographer Michael McVicar once speculated that Rushdoony was
       “one of the most frequently cited intellectuals of the American
       right.” Survival and Resistance in Evangelical America provides
       an insightful exploration of the larger social and regional
       contexts inhabited by Rushdoony’s offspring. While strict
       theonomists remain comparatively few, their influence has been
       significant in some surprising places. Lamentably, they have
       usually championed an approach more narrowly ideological than
       genuinely scriptural.
       Gillis J. Harp teaches history at Grove City College. He is the
       author of Protestants and American Conservatism: A Short
       History.
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       Re: The fearless evangelist
       By: patrick jane Date: June 21, 2021, 1:40 pm
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       US Evangelicals Promise Prayers and Support for Israel’s New
       Prime Minister
       Letter welcomes Benjamin Netanyahu’s successor after Friends of
       Zion founder pledged to oppose the incoming leader.
       A diverse group of American evangelicals congratulated Naftali
       Bennett on becoming the new prime minister of Israel and
       successfully forming a coalition government, offering
       reassurance on to Israelis concerned about Christian support
       after Benjamin Netanyahu’s departure.
       “We pray that God grants you wisdom and strength as you make
       hard decisions that will affect the lives of millions, and we
       trust that He will answer those prayers,” wrote more than 80
       religious leaders, organized by the Philos Project, a group
       promoting “positive Christian engagement” with Israel and
       pluralism in the Middle East.
       The letter expressed appreciation for Netanyahu and everything
       he did “to strengthen Israel and its alliances” over the past 12
       years he served as prime minister. It also welcomed the change
       brought by Bennett, a religious Jew and former Netanyahu
       disciple who formed an alliance with multiple parties across the
       political spectrum to oust Netanyahu.
       “We want to thank you in advance for protecting our shared
       values as they apply to Israel’s citizens, whether Jews,
       Christians, Muslims, or Druze; for guarding the holy sites and
       welcoming religious pilgrims from around the world to discover
       the birthplace of their faith; for defending Israel from outside
       aggression; and for continuing to work toward peace with
       Israel’s neighbors,” the letter said. “In return, we pledge to
       deepen our friendship with your country and its wonderful
       people.”
       Some Israeli political commentators have worried about
       evangelical support for the new government. In the run-up to the
       election, former Israeli ambassador to the US Ron Dermer argued
       Israel should be very concerned about losing the support of
       American evangelicals.
       Those fears seemed to be confirmed when Mike Evans, founder of
       the Jerusalem-based Friends of Zion Heritage Center and the
       Jerusalem Prayer Team, lambasted Bennett in an open letter.
       The Jerusalem Prayer Team’s Facebook page had 77 million
       followers before it was taken down in May, and Evans is
       regularly described in Israeli media as a prominent American
       evangelical leader and even the “world’s largest evangelical
       leader.”
       “Shame, shame, shame on you. Don't ever call yourself a defender
       of Zion. You're not,” Evans wrote to Bennett in early June,
       while Bennett was negotiating to form a coalition government.
       “I will fight you every step of the way. You have lost the
       support of evangelicals 100 percent,” Evans said. “We gave you
       four years of miracles under Donald Trump. We evangelicals
       delivered it. You delivered nothing. What appreciation do you
       show us? You s— right on our face.”
       Evans later apologized for using rude language, but repeated his
       opposition to Bennett and any other political figures who might
       attempt to replace Netanyahu.
       “You’re gonna wave a white flag of surrender—not a blue and
       white flag—a white flag, because you’re so blinded by your
       hatred, by your petty politics and your obsessions with power
       that you can’t see the trees for the forest,” he said.
       Evans also reiterated his claim to represent American
       evangelicals, and referred to “my 77 million evangelicals” in
       his press conference.
       Other American evangelicals with a record of strong support for
       Israel stepped in to say that not everyone felt the same as
       Evans.
       “While Evangelicals do highly respect and appreciate Netanyahu,
       their love for Israel is not tied to one man,” wrote Joel
       Rosenberg, a Christian fiction author and founder of All Israel
       News. “Christians of course know that at some point Netanyahu
       will move on, but they sincerely want to bless and strengthen
       Israel for the long haul regardless of who is in power.”
       Rosenberg is one of the dozens of leaders who signed the Philos
       Project letter.
       It was also signed by Methodist, Pentecostal, Southern Baptist,
       and Missionary Baptist pastors; bishops in the Anglican Church
       in North America and the International Pentecostal Holiness
       Church; and representatives from the National Day of Prayer Task
       Force, the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference,
       National Religious Broadcasters, Pastors Wives of America, and
       Promise Keepers.
       Professors from The King’s College, Grove City College,
       Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Dickerson-Green
       Theological Seminary, and Beeson Divinity School signed on, as
       did Tony Suarez and Johnnie Moore, who served as evangelical
       advisors to President Donald Trump.
       Robert Nicholson, president of The Philos Project, said in a
       statement that the letter was designed to show broad support.
       “This list represents tens of millions of Christians from all
       over the denominational spectrum,” he said, “who differ on many
       things but agree on the importance of Christian friendship with
       Israel based on shared values that come from the Bible.”
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       Re: The fearless evangelist
       By: patrick jane Date: June 28, 2021, 10:58 am
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       No Longer Evangelical
       Is the label 'evangelical' sustainable for Christians in our
       post-everything world?
       I became a Christian at the age of 20, while doing my honors
       work in philosophy at the University of Michigan. Up until that
       point, I was an atheist, being raised by atheists. My childhood
       home had a sign declaring, “The Moore’s, The Atheists,” and a
       barrel for Bible burning—seriously. That’s why when I converted
       to Christianity, I had nearly zero history with organized
       religion and was utterly unfamiliar with a great many terms and
       labels that came with my conversion.
       One of the most important labels I inherited at the time was
       “evangelical.” I was told that was what I had become, an
       evangelical Christian. It seemed right to me, because, after
       all, I had not become a Catholic, Pentecostal, fundamentalist,
       or Orthodox Christian, I had become an “evangelical Christian,”
       and that meant something to me at the time.
       At the time, as I learned about the ecosystem of the variety of
       Christian expressions, evangelicals cared deeply about
       intellectual engagement, spreading the message of Jesus to the
       world, working together to accomplish that mission, and had a
       commitment to personal spiritual transformation. That isn’t to
       say these hallmarks didn’t also present themselves in other
       forms of Christianity, but after my conversion in the early
       1990s, I found them all to be replete within evangelicalism.
       How has evangelicalism changed
       At its core, evangelicalism is a global expression of
       Protestantism, which is patently “trans-denominational,” and
       fundamentally concerned with the spread of the Christian message
       through mission and evangelism. At its best, evangelicalism was
       a highly ecumenical movement that enjoyed a long era of engaging
       issues of social good and justice, intellectual and academic
       engagement, and a culturally sophisticated understanding of
       peoples and ethnic social capital. Through my commitment to the
       evangelical brand of Christianity, I spent nearly 20 years as an
       abolitionist, mobilizing state and federal lawmakers, faith
       communities, corporations, and hundreds of thousands of citizens
       in the fight against modern-day slavery. This was because of the
       brand of my Christian faith, but today, it is despite it.
       Today, evangelicalism has devolved into a grasp for cultural and
       political superiority at any cost as we can see from its
       collapse into Christian nationalism. Today, evangelicalism is
       rife with conspiracy theories and an anti-intellectual,
       anti-scientific worldview. This collapse is simply the proof
       that evangelicalism went from hallowed to hollow somewhere along
       its way, and we are now just witnessing its inevitable demise.
       For most Americans, they’ve never known a world where
       evangelical was a term to be revered, even amongst its
       antagonists. For most, there have never been the “good old days
       of evangelicalism,” and that is part of the problem.
       Evangelicalism is a shadow of what it used to be, offering
       little to the world it once cherished and lived in as a good
       global citizen. It is hard to break with one’s heritage—after
       all, it was evangelicals that first taught me, as a former
       atheist, to care for the environment, to fight for modern-day
       slaves, to believe in the power of science, to speak out for
       racial diversity and empowerment, and pursue a lifelong
       commitment to intellectual integrity.
       These were some of the many reasons why I originally, proudly
       accepted this label for myself, but as my spiritual journey has
       evolved, I’ve increasingly kept my evangelical card-carrying
       identity close to the vest. Being an evangelical has become
       cumbersome and a source of embarrassment, always needing to be
       nuanced, contextualized, and qualified. “Well, I’m not that kind
       of evangelical,” or “Many evangelicals are like that, but not
       me.” For many, the term is synonymous with MAGA and Christian
       nationalism—a corruption of the ways of Jesus for sure. For many
       outsiders, the word evangelical summons amorphous images that
       are homophobic, misogynist, anti-scientific, and racist. The
       constant negotiating of the term evangelical has gone beyond
       tedious; it is clearly unsustainable. This is why I am no longer
       considering myself an evangelical Christian. I am no longer
       willing to participate in the charade of pretending that
       evangelicalism means what it meant.
       Beyond faith labels
       As I leave the faith tradition that has given me so much, I want
       to qualify what I mean when I say I’m no longer an evangelical.
       I will always be Christian, but no longer of the evangelical
       variety, primarily because I don’t see how evangelicalism can
       ever be salvaged from what it has become. Today, to be an
       evangelical in the minds of our society is to be an enemy of the
       ways of Jesus. To be sure, there are millions of Christians who
       still don the name ‘evangelical’ who are passionately and
       unswervingly following the ways of Jesus but under the banner of
       that label are doing so to their detriment. We are in desperate
       need of a new expression of Christianity—an expression that
       creates space for a new way forward.
       The ways and teachings of Jesus were radically incompatible with
       many of the aspects of the mainstream culture of His day, things
       like misogyny, elitism, and the oppression of the immigrant. One
       needs only to read one of the four biblical gospel accounts to
       see that the good news Jesus announced envisioned a new normal
       that would dismantle many of the powers and privileges of the
       elite. For many American evangelicals, these are the same powers
       and privileges they seek to control and benefit from through
       their use and abuse of political power and cultural echoes from
       past eras when evangelicalism had a much bigger megaphone than
       it does today. American Evangelicalism, as it now stands, is
       quickly becoming synonymous with the very culture and power
       systems Jesus Himself sought to dismantle!
       I am no longer an evangelical, but I am a Christian. In
       abandoning my evangelical faith tradition, I am sure I will
       cross and disappoint many who are still desperately trying to
       redeem and defend the term. But let’s be honest it is a lost
       cause. We have gone too far, made way too many compromises, and
       cashed in what little equity we had left in evangelicalism
       during these last four years. My call is for others to do the
       same: to denounce what evangelicalism has become and re-embrace
       the radical ways of Jesus. For millions of church-going,
       Bible-reading, sincerely praying Americans, who love God and
       their neighbor, we are not helped by continuing to own this
       bankrupt label. What our world needs in this time of healing are
       women and men who are committed to justice, peace, equity, and,
       most of all, love. This, after all, is the way of Jesus in the
       first place, so let’s begin by returning to that and figure out
       what a post-evangelical faith in America looks like together.
       R. York Moore is the Executive Director, Catalytic Partnerships
       at InterVarsity Press as well as National Evangelist for
       InterVarsity USA and Co-Founder of the EveryCampus Movement.
       A passionate, visionary leader and an effective communicator,
       casting vision and leading change through written and oratory
       talent.
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       Critical Race Theory: What Christians Need to Know
       Let’s talk about the issue tearing the American church and
       country apart.
       Christians should be afraid of critical race theory. That’s the
       message that a number of conservative Christian leaders have
       shared in recent months. Last fall, the presidents of the five
       Southern Baptist seminaries issued a statement saying that
       “affirmation of Critical Race Theory, Intersectionality and any
       version of Critical Theory” is incompatible with the Baptist
       Faith and Message, the denomination’s core beliefs. This anxiety
       made CRT a main focus at the denomination’s recent gathering.
       In recent years, some evangelicals have identified critical race
       theory as an ascendant ideology in the church that is
       fundamentally at odds with Christian faith. This anxiety has
       been mirrored by many conservatives at large and the debate over
       this ideology has moved from the previous president’s public
       disgust of the ideology to state legislature measures that would
       ban it in schools. All of this comes months after the deaths of
       George Floyd and Breonna Taylor have once again spurred both
       conversations about how the church ought to respond to racial
       injustice but also how the church should discuss this reality.
       One recurring concern for some Christians: that their fellow
       believers have adopted the worldview and talking points of
       critical race theory and Marxism.
       Over time, these charges have been lobbed by Christians at
       Christians, the latter of whom often feel like this language
       mischaracterizes the movement, miscasts their efforts, or
       unfairly shuts down conversations without a hard look at the
       issues actually at stake.
       D. A. Horton directs the intercultural studies program at
       California Baptist University and serves as associate teaching
       pastor at The Grove Community Church in Riverside, California.
       His 2019 book, Intensional, presents a “kingdom” view of ethnic
       divisions and reconciliation. Horton has written a four-part
       series on Ed Stetzer’s blog, The Exchange, about CRT and
       Christian missions.
       Horton joined global media manager Morgan Lee and senior news
       editor Kate Shellnutt to discuss what critical race theory is,
       why it unnerves some Christians, and what can be done to help
       Christians stop talking past each other when it comes to
       addressing the reality of racial injustice.
       Highlights from Quick to Listen: Episode #271
       Can you define what critical theory is before we get into
       critical race theory?
       D. A. Horton: So critical theory was developed inside of a
       school in Germany, known as the Frankfurt School, specifically
       inside the Institute for Social Research. And it really got its
       start in the late 1920s and the early ’30s. And it was led by
       the scholar Max Horkheimer, who framed critical theory with
       three criteria.
       First of all, it needs to be explanatory. This means the
       individual who’s engaging the theory must be able to explain
       what is wrong with the current social reality that they are
       analyzing. They also have to identify who are the powers that
       are maintaining what is wrong through the systems, through the
       rhythms of the society. Second, it needs to be normative. What
       norms in this wrong society should be criticized? What are the
       pieces of evidence of the wrongdoing? And then finally, it has
       to be practical. What are the achievable, practical ways society
       can be transformed?
       Coming out of that, we have to understand what Horkheimer meant
       by the term “critical.” In his writings and his lectures, he
       framed it as a distinct meaning: a different approach to
       analyzing society than the traditional way of viewing society.
       And honestly, Horkheimer used “critical” in synonymous with
       Marxism. His tool of analysis was the lens of Marxism and he
       used critical theory to identify what values of capitalism were
       producing injustice in the society that he was in.
       But it is good for us to understand that, from the beginning,
       that framework is not how it always stayed. It did not always
       stay within the conversation of Marxism. What we see is in the
       second generation of the Frankfurt School is that it produced
       intellectuals like Jürgen Habermas, who expanded the research
       and the analysis beyond Marxism. He said claims to truth must
       also be moral and political goodness, and they have to be
       justified. And so he began to pivot away from critical theory
       from Marxism.
       In his later works, especially in the ’90s, he began to expose
       how secularism, or the humanistic perspective of pushing God
       out, kept religious thought out of the spaces of law and
       politics—to which Habermas was preventing us from having a
       better model of society. And so in his work Habermas actually
       says religious voices can impact society for good if they learn
       to communicate their ideas in understandable language for those
       who are not religious.
       And he goes on to give an appeal of a biblical perspective. He
       says that the biblical social vision is made evident in Genesis
       1:26–27, where every human is an image-bearer of the God who
       created them. And the way that you can translate that
       theological concept to people who are not religious is by
       identifying that there is invaluable dignity that every human
       being has been given.
       So critical theory, when it was initially founded as a framework
       of analysis, the objective measurement tool was Marxism. But
       then the second generation broadens that reach and even made
       appeals for the inclusivity of religious dialogue with a very
       specific biblical appeal.
       And as a missiologist, I take that as an invitation to engage
       with a biblical perspective that analyzes the society but also
       has a different finish line than what those who are not coming
       from a Christian theistic worldview may present as their
       conclusion.
       Are we waiting for our Habermas with critical race theory? Do we
       need someone who can take some of the ideas proposed in the
       framework of critical race theory and add that theological
       dimension to make the bridge happen for people who still see it
       in conflict?
       D. A. Horton: Well, there have been many, many Christians who
       are living out their vocations as given to them by God, in the
       different spaces and arenas in society. In the behavior
       sciences, social work, the field of education, and legal
       studies, you have believers who engage the terms, the language,
       and the concepts, but at the same time, they’re also looking for
       the way that they can communicate a biblical perspective.
       Understanding that society is not going to be perfectly
       transformed, that our finish line is not a utopia of this side
       of eternity, but rather it is residents in the city of God that
       we read about in Revelation chapters 21 and 22.
       I believe that there have been people doing that; it’s just that
       critical race theory and its scholarship has not been mainstream
       until recent years. And so that’s where I think it gets a little
       murky. But there have been Christians who have engaged this
       perspective and they’ve been engaging at it for quite some time.
       Is there a way to define critical race theory for people outside
       of academia? And how would you define it in contrast to the
       perspective of race that existed prior to CRT?
       D. A. Horton: The first thing that I think everyone should
       understand is that critical race theory is a direct growing out
       of something known as critical legal studies. And this is
       particularly focused and centered in the United States of
       America, so it’s not a global perspective. The only way it
       becomes global is if somebody adapts the principles and the
       tools that critical race theory leverages as a methodology of
       social analysis, and then they apply it to their society outside
       of America.
       But basically, critical legal studies focused on the
       relationship between the legal scholarship and the struggle to
       see a more humane, egalitarian, and democratic society. And so
       critical legal studies contain insights from the Supreme Court
       rulings on Scott v. Sanford in 1857 and Plessy v. Ferguson in
       1896 because that provides the context for the legal debates
       surrounding the flawed “separate but equal,” as well as the
       colorblindness, or the neutrality, of American law.
       So after these rulings, it was a normative belief in America
       that the law was colorblind, that although people were separate
       but equal in the Jim Crow era, everyone still had the same type
       of access to freedom and liberty and everything that our
       founding documents promise to residents of America.
       However, that’s where critical race theory comes in. One of the
       architects, Richard Delgado, communicated that they began to
       realize that the momentum of the civil rights movement in the
       ’60s had stalled when it became evident that a lot of the
       implementation and legislative changes were not being made by
       academics.
       The cornerstone founder of critical race theory is Derek Bell.
       His documents are what people consider the foundation of CRT.
       And alongside the scholarship of Delgado, Kimberly Crenshaw,
       Ellen Freeman, Cheryl Harris, Charles Lawrence III, Mari
       Matsuda, and Patricia Williams, they are often framed as the
       primary voices of critical race theory. To define critical race
       theory, you really must look at the themes that these primary
       voices begin to bring to the forefront.
       I do think it’s important also to qualify that Derek Bell was
       interviewed before he passed away, and Bell distanced his
       perspective as it relates to what would become later known as
       critical race theory from the views of Marxism. And the reason
       that he did that is that he didn’t want people to think that he
       had to turn to European “white” men to understand the racial
       interactions that he as a Black man has had his entire life in
       the United States of America. And so one of the misnomers that
       we have is that CRT automatically, unequivocally, always equals
       Marxism. And that’s just not true because the founder, Derek
       Bell, distanced himself from that.
       Based on the primary voices I listed, the five themes that I
       typically identify critical race as is, one, race is something
       that is manmade, and it has created privilege for something that
       is known as whiteness—a created American identity which
       immigrants from Eastern and Southern Europe could assimilate.
       They would become white in exchange for their ethnic heritage,
       and that would secure them citizenship, employment, housing, and
       even religious freedoms and liberty.
       In addition to that, racism is something that is seen as
       permanent in the United States of America. And a lot of that is
       because of the implicit racist language in our founding
       documents, like the Declaration of Independence and the US
       Constitution.
       The third thing is that counter-stories from marginalized people
       are necessary. In Christian language, we call a counter-story a
       testimony. It’s somebody sharing their testimony of how they
       have interacted with racism in America.
       The fourth is that being colorblind is not being truthful.
       And then the fifth element that I would say is a common theme is
       that racial progress seems to only be made when “white people”
       are the ones who benefit from it.
       So these are the five themes that I have identified from the
       primary voices themselves.
       The question about critical race being a worldview—which, when I
       hear “worldview,” I'm thinking through the lens of the arena of
       theology. A worldview is how one answers the questions such as,
       Who is God?; Who am I?; What’s my purpose for living?; What is
       real?; Who determines right from wrong?; and What happens after
       I die?
       To me, a worldview would include deism, existentialism,
       monotheism, naturalism, new consciousness, nihilism, and
       pantheism. And each of those has varying beliefs as it relates
       to the concept of race. So, in my opinion, critical race theory
       is not a worldview—it’s comprised of legal scholars who are not
       dedicating their work to the cosmology of humanity or the
       universe, let alone the eternal condition of humanity. The focus
       of critical race theory scholars is the inequality of the law in
       the United States of America.
       And I think that’s one of the misnomers: that people have forced
       it to become something known as a worldview. And I just don’t
       see that in the primary voices. Their focus is the United States
       of America; it’s not global-centric. It throws me off when
       people compare critical race theory to a worldview, because as a
       theologian, it doesn’t give answers to some of these worldview
       questions.
       When critical race theory moved from academia into something
       that some Christian leaders begin to identify as posing a danger
       to our faith, what were some of the stories or connections that
       set off alarm bells?
       D. A. Horton: This is my personal opinion; I’m limited by my own
       experiences and experiences of others that I’m in dialogue with.
       But, what began to happen is that some of the language that
       critical race theory has developed began to become more normal
       in a lot of “Christians of color.”
       Critical race theory does provide language for concepts that
       believers, specifically of color, have wrestled within their
       minds, and now they have terms to use to help these abstract
       ideas explain in concrete ways.
       One example is the term microaggression. The definition of
       microaggression is an action or an incident that is an instance
       of indirect, subtle, or unintentional discrimination against
       somebody who is part of a marginalized group. As an example from
       my own life, I was really stressed going into my PhD entrance
       exam at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, and for that
       whole process, I was just really nervous and I doubted myself.
       And I remember being driven to the airport by a brother in
       Christ and he was asking me what was on my mind because he could
       tell I was stressed. I explained to him how I felt overwhelmed
       by the process and demands of the exam.
       And he looked at me and confidently said, “You should not stress
       out. You’re going to pass no matter what. Southeastern needs
       you. You’re a minority. They need more Hispanics”—which is a
       term I don’t use, but he used it—“They need more Hispanics so
       that they can show themselves to be diversified. They need more
       guys like you, so you’re going to get in no matter what.”
       It was saying that I don’t have the educational capacity or the
       academic rigor and wherewithal to pass, but I’m going to get a
       pass simply because they need me for visibility. That’s a
       microaggression because he connected my ethnicity with the fact
       that I was going to pass.
       If I share that statement in a Christian space, people ask, how
       can you know his motives? How can you know his intentions? And I
       think at that point, we want to begin to theologize what
       somebody said so that we don’t have to accept the claim that
       what was said showed discrimination.
       So there was a list of terms that seem to be the no-no terms,
       and whenever you heard these certain words used, it was like,
       “Oh my gosh, there are Marxists, communists, socialist people in
       the church!”
       Do you think part of it is that there is a suspicion that comes
       from hearing the non-Christianese language used by Christians?
       Especially when it’s being used to critique us?
       D. A. Horton: I think that is part of it. But if we just even
       assess the language that we use as Christians—I mean, the term
       gospel was not a Christian term; it comes from a Greek word that
       was literally connected to the imperial cult, it was used for
       the “good news” that was proclaimed when a new Caesar was
       crowned or when the Caesar was going to have a child.
       Our writers of Scripture—under the inspiration of the Holy
       Spirit who safeguarded them from writing anything in error—used
       that concept, which was connected to pagan worship. And we have
       seen that used to translate into the gospel because we do
       proclaim the Good News of Christ being the only source of
       redemption that God has in his plan of redemption.
       And so I think that’s where it takes more education for
       Christians to understand that everything in our speech is not
       purely Christian. The clothes that we wear are not always
       stitched by Christians. This is exactly what Habermas asked. He
       gave an invitation for religious people to communicate their
       beliefs and how society can flourish, but they have to be able
       to do it using terms and concepts that the nonbeliever can
       understand. There has to be some shared language.
       Another term is intersectionality. When people hear
       “intersectionality” in the church, I often think they’re fearful
       of a slippery slope and that it is going to somehow give
       affirmation and acquiesce to the LGBTQ+ community. And my
       pushback to that is we see the concept in Scripture. And some
       would say I’m isolating and reading intersectionality into the
       Scriptures. But what I’m doing is identifying a modern word that
       describes something that we already see in the Bible.
       One of the classic examples I give is John 4. Jesus spoke to the
       woman at the well. She was identified by her ethnicity as being
       a Samaritan. She was a woman. You can even argue that the reason
       that she was drawing water from that well at that time of the
       day was that she was socially ostracized, so she was
       marginalized. Those are three identifying realities for her.
       Another example is in Galatians 3:28; in addition to identifying
       ethnicity, he [Paul] also identifies gender, and he identifies
       the reality in social class. All three of those concepts are
       right there in Scripture.
       And this is where evangelicals struggle, because when it comes
       to gender, we see constant material being produced to advocate
       biblical roles in marriage, in the home, biblical masculinity
       and biblical femininity. So, we don’t deny gender. We’re not
       gender-neutral. At the same time, we see the economic realities
       and we talk about financial stewardship, giving, employment
       ethics, good work ethic. We talk about those things. So, we
       acknowledge the reality of employment and financial stewardship.
       But now we want to say, “I don’t see ethnicity”? That’s not
       true. You do inasmuch as you see gender and the reality of the
       need for financial stewardship and employment and employee
       ethics. And if you’re talking about ethnicity, gender, and
       class, that is intersectionality.
       So by saying the concept of intersectionality is in Scripture,
       does that mean I am forsaking Christ as the only means of
       salvation? Absolutely not. What I’m saying is that there are
       multiple facets to the reality that we embody in a fallen world.
       I am a man. I am also married. I am also Latino. I’m also
       Choctaw Nation. I have various European descents inside of me.
       I’m married to a woman. I have daughters, I have a son. I fit in
       a social class. I grew up in a different social class. These are
       realities. Acknowledging these realities does not mean I’m
       doubting the gospel. It doesn’t mean I’m denying the sufficiency
       of Scripture. Claims of such things are just erroneous and
       they’re hyperbole.
       And I think if we approached it that way, without the
       name-calling, we would see greater progress in the body of
       Christ. You can engage the language, but you don’t have to lay
       down to the agenda of the world by engaging the language.
       Because my purpose and intention for engaging the language is to
       help the nonbeliever understand the perspective that God offers
       as a solution, in Christ alone, for the realities of the broken
       and this one.
       As a missiologist, instructor, and a pastor using the language
       developed through CRT, what are the ways that it’s helpful, or
       are there places where there are limits or concerns? Are there
       boundaries you draw for how it can be employed as a tool within
       a faith structure?
       D.A. Horton: My personal approach is to be honest. What I can do
       is look at the claims that critical race theory makes, and if
       it’s true then I can acknowledge that truth.
       If all truth is God’s truth, then with common grace, God has
       given every human being who bears his image rationale, the
       ability to process information, to think about it, and to
       communicate. And so I would be remiss if I think that
       non-Christians cannot tell the truth. And when it comes to
       social analysis and assessment, if they depart from truthful
       claims, that’s where, as a follower of Christ, I can say that I
       have a different guardrail that I’m using to measure the truth
       claims. Mine is the Word of God.
       For example, when I look at the claim that race is a social
       construct, that it is manmade, that is very true because, in all
       the times of antiquity, we do not see the racial structures or
       caste system that we have seen throughout the colonization of
       the indigenous Americas. Spain and Portugal created the caste
       system first in the Caribbean and Mexico and South America, and
       then Protestants did the same thing in the United States. None
       of that is endorsed in Scripture; however, it is a reality, and
       it is something that shows in the documents of the United
       States.
       However, what has God given? He’s given ethnicity. And we see
       this in Acts 17:26 and Genesis 3:20. Ethnicity is a gift from
       God. And when I look at Revelation chapters 21 and 22, I see
       that ethnicity is present in the eternal state. So, Christians
       do not need to be ashamed or feel guilty for their ethnicity.
       One of the things that I have been trying to do is to get rid of
       the color-coded language of the racial caste system and begin to
       challenge people to affirm their ethnic heritage that was
       elected for them to have and that will be present in the eternal
       state. And in doing that, I’m departing away from critical race
       theory because I’m going back to the cosmological creation of
       humanity and I’m going to the eternal state. Critical race
       theory doesn’t go there.
       Another example: Often people say that critical race theory says
       that whiteness was created and it provides privileges for only
       people who are in that category. And there is some truth in
       that, but it’s not fully true. And one of the things that I want
       to communicate is that privilege is not a bad thing.
       Anyone listening to this podcast, anyone that has running water,
       anyone that has shoes on their feet, has food in their
       pantry—that’s privilege because not everybody in the world has
       access to those amenities. Privilege is not bad. It’s not
       sinful. It only becomes sinful when it is not leveraged to help
       other humans in need. I don’t apologize for my privilege because
       I can leverage my privilege in specific moments.
       In the four blogs with Christianity Today, I explore all of
       this. What are the claims that critical race theory makes? Where
       are they true and where are they not true? And then how does
       Scripture speak to the truthfulness of their claim? But also,
       how does it correct the errors in their claim as well?
       Do you think the reason that some Christians are turning to the
       language of critical race theory is that they haven’t found
       sufficiently comprehensive language within Christian contexts to
       talk about racial injustice?
       D. A. Horton: I think in some situations, people have grown
       weary and tired and they’re just exhausted. They’re just tired
       of trying to make evangelicals believe that this is a reality
       for some people. At the same time, I think some people are
       disgruntled because they don’t feel that they have a safe space
       that is safe to communicate these things without being charged
       and accused of various terms. It’s a smorgasbord of realities
       for people in their experiences.
       We, as believers, have to understand that this is also a
       discipleship issue. Jesus has given the Great Commission and
       included is language which means “to every ethnicity.” So we are
       to be making disciples of every ethnicity in America. We are
       blessed because God has allowed the neighborhoods to be
       inhabited by the nations, so we’re without excuse. And that’s
       where I think the work of being diligent to diversify our dinner
       tables, to diversify our inner circles of friendships and
       discipleship rhythms is important. It should reflect the reality
       of the community that God has chosen for us to live in.
       I think our local churches should not see the reality of Great
       Commission fulfillment as affirmative action or a secular
       perspective. No, this is the reality of what Christ is
       commissioned every Christian to do. We all have the same job
       description as the Great Commission.
       And in the eternal state, what we recognize is that the
       ethnicities are present, we are worshiping God. We even see that
       products of cultural grace are going to be brought in by leaders
       of the various ethnicities into the city of God. So, we can
       appreciate the cultural expressions that we have, and we can
       even see them redeemed for the glory of God.
       In my family, one way we’ve done that is with the quinceañera.
       The quinceañera began as an aspect of pagan ritual, but then it
       was synchronized with Roman Catholic practice and dogma. And
       what we did for our daughter when she was 15 is that we made
       Christ the center focus. We removed the paganism, but we kept
       the cultural celebrations. And a lot of the language and the
       customs could be leveraged for the glory of God. Every one of
       our daughter’s padrinos and madrinas (godparents) gave a gift
       that was connected back to Scripture and affirmed her walk in
       Christ.
       These are beautiful things of our culture. There are certain
       dances, there are certain songs, there are certain testimonies
       and oral traditions in various cultures that in the United
       States of America have often been deemed as unholy. And if we
       have divorced ethnicity, if we have divorced the reality of
       race, because we’ve chosen colorblindness or other methodologies
       to not even acknowledge those things and framing ethnicity is
       something carnal and holy and sinful, that’s a discipleship
       issue.
       I don’t think we can talk about people’s fear of critical race
       theory without discussing cancel culture. How do you define
       cancel culture? What concerns might you sympathize with for
       those who are very concerned about this, and where might you
       push back on people regarding those fears?
       D. A. Horton: Cancel culture was derivative of the African
       American community. As it would be expressed on Black Twitter,
       it was stepping away from public support, and even the shunning,
       and the dropping of endorsements of entities or people that did
       not fall in step with the progression of whoever was doing the
       canceling.
       One of the aspects of cancel culture that has now become a
       little bit more normative in mainstream society, which then
       provided a tributary into evangelicalism in America, is this
       contra-biblical way of interpersonal relationships. We have to
       understand that cancel culture and the way that it’s been done
       by the nonbelievers is not endorsed in Scripture.
       It basically opens the door for the Evil One to allow suspicions
       to be brewing in the hearts of people. That we can be content
       with being warriors of the faith, defenders of the truth of
       scripture and Christianity by labeling our brothers and sisters
       enemies of the church enemies.
       Even the term woke—a lot of people don’t have the historic
       understanding of the term. It was something that, again, was
       first used in the African American community to mean to be aware
       of the reality and the nuances of practical racism that had been
       expressed pre–Jim Crow, during Jim Crow, and post–Jim Crow.
       And that terminology has now been hijacked in a similar way that
       the term evangelical has been hijacked. And I think one of the
       things that we have to do better at in evangelicalism is
       explaining and defining our terms. And I ground my definitions
       from themes all throughout Scripture—not social sciences, not
       critical race theorists, not the Frankfurt school, but from
       Scripture.
       And the reason I want to define those terms is that often in
       these conversations, in the church we’re not defining our terms.
       We are allowing the interpreter to read their understanding into
       the terminology we’re using. That means we have to do the
       diligent work of explaining to our listeners what we mean by
       these terms. And then we can give them a better understanding of
       where we are coming from.
       Having terms with no clear tangible definitions just leads
       people to move forward in their own assumptions, or move forward
       with the trusted voices that they listen to, and that’s a
       problem because sometimes the voices that you trust—whether they
       are grossly misinformed or whether they are intentionally
       participating in this sin of slander—are not always being
       consistent and truthful with their assessments and their
       terminology and even their claims.
       To what extent do you say there are a significant number of
       Christians who are being bad actors, and when is it okay for us
       as Christians to call people out for acting in bad faith, and
       are people always aware that they’re acting that way?
       D. A. Horton: I think one thing that I have learned in my
       journey of walking with Jesus, over the last 25 years in
       America, is that there is a way to theologize yourself out of
       being guilty of sins like slander and gossip.
       We use codified language like “I’m seeking counsel” or “I’m
       trying to get wisdom,” and we’ll throw a Bible passage on that.
       And I’m not saying that it’s wrong to seek wisdom and counsel
       and guidance; however, when it starts getting into the realm of
       suspicion leading to reading things into what they’re saying …
       We live in a fallen world, and sometimes when people want to see
       something, they’ll see it when it’s not even there. And they’ll
       convince themselves that they see it and they will be very
       convincing to others. And when I look at that framework in
       Scripture, the reality of systemic deception in the world and
       society at large is in Ephesians 2:1–3. We see that there is a
       worldly system that is in opposition to righteousness, justice,
       and all things that are derivative from God’s design for
       humanity.
       So, is there systemic sin in society? Absolutely. Now can it
       also be in the church? That’s exactly what Paul was arguing in
       Ephesians 4. The language that he is using points to the
       systematic lies that are present in the churches, that were
       brought into the church. And the way that we refute that is
       through discipleship, rooting ourselves in the Word of God while
       living on the mission of God.
       We, as followers of Christ, don’t have to be aloof when it comes
       to the systemic deception that unfortunately can make its way
       into local churches. And what’s being framed now is this new
       religion called woke-ism, this new perspective of critical race
       theory being charged as an enemy. We are headed to an
       unnecessary civil war. And to have a civil war, you have to have
       an enemy. And this enemy is manufactured because I’ve yet to see
       anyone who is purposefully seeking to bring the nuances of
       critical race theory into the Southern Baptist Convention with a
       desire to take it over.
       Now, is that possible? Sure. We live in a fallen world, people
       may have vindictive motives, but the reality of what I see and
       who I engage with that are the “faces of this new religion” this
       new “liberal takeover,” I'm like, y’all are trippin’. They are
       not what you're calling them.
       For those opposed to CRT, what do you think is the “worst-case
       scenario” in their mind?
       D. A. Horton: You know, the only interaction that I’ve had in
       length with the side that is framing CRT as a religion and
       woke-ism and the social justice movements as entering into the
       church, is Fault Lines by Voddie Baucham.
       And from the very beginning, the conversation is framed that
       you’re standing on one of two sides of a fault line, and
       literally the fault line—no pun intended—of the book is framing
       the side that Voddie is on and then the side that’s the
       nonbiblical social justice perspective, which starts with the
       world and then these Christians now are speaking the world's
       philosophies and perspectives into the church. And, at the end
       of the day, he concludes with a call to war against the opposing
       side.
       And in that perspective, he’s framed it as a binary where the
       reader has to pick a side. And in my mind, that’s a false
       dichotomy. I don’t have to pick a side. Is there really even a
       fault line? And as I began to assess some of the claims made,
       some of the references that were there were cited, it didn’t
       work for me.
       It’s not choosing a side. I don’t have to. I’m being faithful to
       the work of Christ, and I know where the truth claims are, and I
       know where they derive away from the truthfulness of God’s Word.
       And as a competent follower of Christ, I can engage in those
       conversations and I can give empirical data within the space of
       the academy.
       As a missiologist, I don’t see a dichotomy between faith and
       scholarship. I don’t see a dichotomy between faith and career
       vocation. Because God is the one who has his fingerprints on the
       lives of his children, and the gifts, the talents, and the
       opportunities he’s given them, which provides them with an
       opportunity to give him representation in the spaces that they
       entered.
       So, as I enter into the academic space, I am not aloof or naive.
       I know that I’m walking into social injustice because my God,
       the only true living God, has been systematically parsed out
       from representation in data. And I found a way to introduce the
       reality of who he is, what he has done, in a way that can be
       communicated inside of a humanistic-centric space.
       But the way I communicate about that data in that space is way
       different than in the church. With the church I’m making the
       appeals for ethnic conciliation, grounding my definitions in
       Scripture, helping us see a pathway forward. But the pushback
       I’m getting is, “Well, you should read Fault Lines.”
       Well, I did, and when I express my difference in opinion from
       where Voddie is coming from, somehow people don’t think that
       that’s Christian-like. And I think we, as followers of Christ,
       have to understand that it’s okay to disagree on things. It
       doesn’t mean that people are kicked out of the kingdom of God. I
       mean, if that’s the case, then that's a non-biblical view of
       salvation in the first place.
       But when people are trying to create these false dichotomies and
       call us to war, I’m like, hold on, time out. We are wasting
       friendly fire. We should be advocating against the
       principalities and structures that the Evil One has put into
       place, but we should not be assuming that brothers in Christ are
       the ones being used as sons of disobedience. Especially if
       they’re still pointing to Christ as the only means of salvation.
       So why are we allowing cancel culture in our evangelical spaces
       to now be practiced in interpersonal relationships, church
       relationships, and relationships with staff members? We, as the
       people of Christ in America, have to be able to recapture the
       art of dialogue. We have lost that.
       In that spirit, can you see the genuine or sincere motives that
       people have for raising questions about critical race theory? Do
       you see a good reason or the gospel as a motivation for people
       who are still suspicious, skeptical, or trying to learn?
       D. A. Horton: Yes, absolutely. I do feel that there is a desire
       now for followers of Christ in America to at least understand
       critical race theory, and how a Christian is supposed to
       interact with it.
       The first thing that I express to people is a Christian doesn’t
       need to use critical race theory. You don’t have to. Nobody’s
       forcing you in the Word of God to communicate that you have to
       engage critical race theory. Salvation is a gift given by grace
       alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, confirmed in
       Scripture alone, for the glory of God alone. So only embracing
       Christ, the Savior, is necessary to be a part of the kingdom of
       God, to be a part of Jesus’ church.
       Jesus’ work is not dependent on anything or anyone other than
       him. And I recognize that as a follower of Christ. But as a
       missiologist, who is evangelistically active and discipleship
       driven, I engage critical race theory because it’s relevant to
       my mission field in North America.
       So, when people enter into the conversation wanting to
       understand, then that’s what I want to do. I want to help give
       them the themes that I’ve identified from the primary voices and
       point them in the direction of Scripture. I want to show them
       where some claims are truthful and you’re not compromising
       Christianity or reducing the finished work of Christ if you
       acknowledge that there are claims that are true in this
       methodology. And then, at the same time, as a follower of
       Christ, because CRT was not developed in a theological sphere or
       arena, it’s not going to lead to the same kingdom conclusions
       that we see as those living on mission for Christ. The
       conclusions and the solutions should lead to gospel
       conversations with people.
       And I think the fear is that people are saying that CRT is being
       forced on them by Christians who have platforms. CRT is saying
       that the gospel is not enough, and we need this to help us. And
       I think that’s where we just read our presuppositions and what
       people are saying.
       I’m not admitting that the gospel is not enough. I still
       proclaim the gospel. So when people are saying you got to pick
       critical race theory or the gospel, I’m like, that’s a false
       dichotomy. I don’t have to play your game. Helping people
       understand that through dialoguing and answering honest
       questions with us honest research will help us. And it doesn’t
       mean that just answering questions is going to suffice and
       everything goes back to being good. No, these are ongoing
       conversations again. That’s why I say it’s a discipleship issue.
       People are cherry-picking some of their quotes, not giving
       diligence to the context of the quote, and people are only
       seeing the sound bite. And the people who don’t want to do the
       diligent work of researching or cross-referencing or searching
       for context, they're going to believe these little sound bite
       options. And that’s where the motives of people then have to be
       measured.
       These are things that I think can only be parsed out through
       ongoing, honest, transparent, and safe spaces created for these
       real conversations, and they’re best done in discipleship
       relationships.
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       Evangelicals Ask Pope Francis to Help Save Lebanon
       Visiting the Vatican for a Christian summit, leaders explain why
       the problems of sectarian politics have become unbearable.
       Pope Francis has a message to consider from Lebanon’s
       evangelicals.
       “We are not comfortable in our sectarian system, and thank God
       that we are not a part of the politics that led the country to
       collapse,” said Joseph Kassab, president of the Supreme Council
       of the Evangelical Community in Syria and Lebanon.
       “We are not benefiting, and it hurts us like the vast majority
       of the Lebanese people.”
       Last week the Catholic pontiff invited Lebanon’s Christian
       denominations to the Vatican for a time of prayer and
       reflection. Ten patriarchs, bishops, and church leaders
       gathered, as Francis encouraged them to speak with one voice to
       the politicians of their nation.
       Lebanon has been unable to form a new government since its prior
       one resigned 11 months ago, following the massive explosion at
       Beirut’s port. As its Christian, Sunni, Shiite, and Druze
       political parties wrangle over representation, more than half
       the population now falls below the poverty line.
       Following a default on national debt, personal bank accounts
       have been largely frozen as the Lebanese lira has lost over 90
       percent of its value. The World Bank estimates the economic
       collapse to be among the world’s three worst in the last 150
       years.
       “We blame and condemn our Christian and Muslim political leaders
       equally,” said Kassab.
       “We have to say this loudly.”
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       [size=10pt]Pope Francis (left) attends a prayer with Lebanon’s
       Christian leaders in St. Peter’s Basilica on July 1, hosting
       them at the Vatican for a day of prayer amid fears that the
       country’s descent into financial and economic chaos is further
       imperiling the Christian presence in the country.
       The nation’s longstanding sectarian system, however, works to
       recycle these leaders. Lebanon’s president must be a Maronite
       Christian, its prime minister a Sunni Muslim, and its speaker of
       parliament a Shiite Muslim.
       The 128 parliament seats are divided evenly between Muslims and
       Christians, with one reserved for Protestants. But confessional
       distribution extends into ministerial and civil service
       positions, including the army, police, and intelligence
       services.
       Each community seeks to maximize its interests, while being
       careful not to upset the sectarian balance.
       “Positions are distributed by religious identity, not
       qualification,” said Kassab. “Francis called us to push our
       politicians toward the common good, but we are imprisoned in
       this system.”
       Closed door discussions were frank, he said, but conducted with
       a brotherly spirit. There is no Lebanese consensus on solutions,
       let alone among Christians.
       The Maronite patriarch has repeatedly called for an
       international conference to compel a political solution, as well
       as to ensure Lebanese regional neutrality. But AsiaNews reported
       that the Greek and Syrian Orthodox leaders have reservations,
       likely due to headquarters in Damascus.
       Consequently, the pope sought to find the common denominator
       between the churches. This was identified as the urgent
       necessity for a government, and social assistance to keep
       Christians in Lebanon.
       Currently “50 to 60 percent of our young people live abroad,”
       stated Samir Mazloum, the Maronite patriarchal vicar. “There are
       only old people and children left.”
       The Vatican released no official statement, but Pope Francis’
       closing homily served as an indication.
       “Lebanon cannot be left prey to the course of events or to those
       who pursue their own unscrupulous interests,” he said. “It is a
       small yet great country, but even more, it is a universal
       message of peace and fraternity arising from the Middle East.”
       Francis’ earlier visits with the Grand Imam of Egypt’s al-Azhar,
       a Sunni, and the Grand Ayatollah in Iraq, a Shiite, represent
       his attempt to secure good relations across the Muslim world. In
       Lebanon, however, there was some unease about the nature of last
       week’s Christian-only dialogue.
       To assuage them, John X, patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church
       of Antioch, met with the heads of the Sunni, Shiite, and Druze
       communities in advance of the gathering. This initiative, Kassab
       said, was roundly appreciated by the pope and Lebanese Christian
       leaders.
       “We need to be a church that serves the Muslims,” he added. “We
       cannot exclude our partners in the nation.”
       Despite the economic troubles, this sentiment is holding firm.
       Lebanese dismiss the possibility of a return to civil war, which
       tore the country apart from 1975 to 1990. But those wounds were
       never healed, stated Bishop Michel Aoun of the Maronite church,
       with no confession of wrong. International pressure may help
       force a government, but the political system—adjusted after the
       war—failed to instill a sense of Lebanese unity.
       So Francis prayed for it.
       “We have seen our own lack of clarity and the mistakes we have
       made,” the pope stated during his closing homily. “For all this
       we ask forgiveness, and with contrite hearts we pray: Lord, have
       mercy.”
       And specifically, he mentioned a failure “to bear consistent
       witness to the Gospel,” including missed opportunities for
       reconciliation.
       The daylong gathering began at Casa Santa Marta, where Lebanese
       leaders joined the pope at his simple residence. He walked with
       them to St. Peter’s Basilica, where they recited the Lord’s
       Prayer. After about five minutes of silent meditation, the heads
       of denominations descended into the crypt, where they each lit a
       candle in front of an ornate Bible.
       Left above was Charlie Costa, head of Lebanon’s Baptist
       convention, invited by Kassab as part of the evangelical
       delegation. Awed by the sense of history at the Vatican, he
       remarked that this cathedral was built with the indulgences that
       triggered the Reformation. Yet it also preserved Western
       Christianity throughout the ages.
       Francis listened intensely during the sessions, speaking little,
       he said. And he received the Protestants respectfully, engaging
       them as an equal component of Lebanese society, along with the
       Catholic and Orthodox delegations.
       “He is an amazing man,” said Costa. “Christians in Lebanon,
       evangelicals included, can learn from his humility.”
       There was a consensus among the Lebanese leaders that they must.
       “We forgot for a while about our differences,” said Kassab. “But
       if we leave the situation as it is, Lebanon is going to die.”
       The evangelical report handed to Francis emphasized the
       necessity of freedom of conscience and belief, while maintaining
       good relations with the traditional churches and Muslim
       community.
       Lebanese evangelicals would welcome the Vatican taking a leading
       role in international efforts to rescue Lebanon. Francis
       announced no concrete steps, but delegation members anticipate
       he will lead the charge to preserve the diverse,
       multi-confessional nation.
       Will it remain sectarian in its political system? No one knows
       the details.
       “Lebanon will be different,” said Kassab.
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       Patrons’ Saints: Christians Turn to Patreon, Substack, and
       Kickstarter
       As more evangelical figures embrace crowdfunding, is the format
       demanding too much of them?
       To release her first contemporary Christian music album back in
       2004, Beth Barnard signed a contract with Sparrow Records during
       her freshman year of high school.
       Her 11-song debut was self-titled Bethany Dillon, a stage name
       she adopted at the recommendation of execs who thought her
       maiden name—Adelsberger—would be a mouthful. Through Sparrow
       (now Capitol Christian Music Group), Barnard spent most of her
       teen years recording music. Her hit songs were nominated for
       Dove Awards and appeared on WOW compilations.
       She then married Shane Barnard—one Shane-half of Christian music
       group Shane & Shane—and realized that she wanted to stay at home
       with her family rather than record and tour. More than a decade
       and four kids later, Barnard sensed last year that she had
       another collection of songs to share. Only this time, she
       launched a Kickstarter campaign.
       The crowdfunding site had allowed Barnard to release a worship
       album, A Better Word, in 2017. She turned to Kickstarter again
       in 2021 to bypass some of the business baggage she was happy to
       leave behind when she stepped away from the music industry years
       ago, like marketing efforts and hitting the road to promote the
       album.
       Her fans remembered her and came through, giving more than
       $20,000 in the first 12 hours of the fundraiser in January.
       “Thank you, thank you … not only for helping us meet the
       financial part of rolling this out, but also for what that
       speaks … that you’re behind this and excited about it,” Barnard
       told backers in a recorded video after her project was funded.
       Kickstarter, where supporters can pledge for a one-time project,
       and platforms like Substack and Patreon, where they can pay to
       subscribe for content on a regular basis, offer creators a way
       to directly connect with their audiences while giving fans a way
       to directly support the creators they love.
       These setups took off over the past decade among the aspiring
       and niche, including in Christian circles. Then, as the pandemic
       canceled events like concerts and conferences, more artists and
       speakers relied on direct funding and online subscription models
       as they adapted their material for online audiences.
       Apologists, pastoral coaches, and theologians have also begun to
       turn to direct funding as a revenue stream and a way to share
       resources. The Truth’s Table podcast, hosted by Michelle
       Higgins, Christina Edmondson, and Ekemini Uwan, has over 250
       Patreon supporters offering $5–$50 a month for bonus episodes
       and other perks. Australian Bible scholar Michael Bird offers
       Q&As and commentary in his Substack newsletter Word from the
       Bird.
       Big names have stepped over to the direct-funding space too.
       After 40 years in Christian music, the late singer Carman
       created what remains one of the highest-funded Kickstarter
       projects in the app’s history, raising $538,103 in 2013 for what
       turned out to be his last album. Some of the top Christian
       artists on the site today include singer-songwriters Nichole
       Nordeman and Jasmine Tate and worship band Citizens.
       Though he continued making music and releasing books through
       traditional outlets, rapper Lecrae joined Patreon during the
       pandemic, offering his weekly podcast for $5 a month or perks
       like live Zoom chats for $50 a month. Christian writer and
       podcaster Tsh Oxenreider launched a Substack in 2019, where
       subscribers get access for $60 a year or $6 a month to her
       newsletter and are invited to special events, including
       in-person book club gatherings (when pandemics allow).
       The widespread use of direct funding has shifted the
       relationship among supporters, creators, and the institutions
       that used to stand between them.
       But despite the success many Christian artists, public
       theologians, and podcasters have found in crowdfunding, the
       model raises questions Christians should consider: What are we
       selling, exactly? And should we sell it just because someone’s
       willing to buy in?
       ‘Quintessentially Christian’ giving
       Christians were in the direct funding game long before there
       were websites. In Roman society, wealthy patrons supported
       poets, philosophers, merchants, and artisans, and the framework
       carried over into the church. Paul refers to Phoebe as
       prostatis—a “patron” or “benefactor.” Other New Testament
       figures such as Lydia, Jason, Onesiphorus, and Philemon may have
       also played that role in supporting the early Jesus movement.
       For most of history, being a patron required status and big
       bucks. An elite few would commit to consistently support a
       respected artist or teacher over their career. Online tools
       today, however, have opened the door to huge swaths of
       middle-class supporters, who can offer up $5 a month via their
       credit cards for a members-only podcast and the distinction of
       digital patron status.
       But the church itself has always leaned on the benevolence of
       the masses. Most churches across the globe rely on tithes and
       donations from members to operate. Churches build buildings,
       send youth groups on mission trips, plant other churches, and
       send out full-time missionaries almost exclusively on donated
       funds.
       In a proto-crowdfunding model, missionaries regularly visit
       churches or send letters to recruit like-minded Christians to
       pledge ongoing support for their ministry work. Like the
       creators now recruiting online, missionaries are expected to
       provide their backers with updates about how the investment is
       paying off on the mission field.
       Those missionaries are tapping into a key motivation of their
       donors: They want to feel intimately involved—or at least
       aware—of what they’re supporting. That sense of intimacy is key
       to other, more global Christian efforts like World Vision and
       Compassion International, where donors can choose a specific
       child and international community to support.
       Still, research suggests younger generations are more inclined
       to give to individuals than to institutions doing mission work.
       Giving directly to Christian artists over the internet leans
       into that reality.
       Whatever the reason people give, crowdfunding does seem
       quintessentially Christian. It answers the call to be generous,
       to bear one another’s burdens, and—depending on the “product”—to
       work together in pursuit of gospel causes.
       That’s why Heather Wilson and her brother, Jacob Wells, said
       they wanted to create an explicitly Christian crowdfunding site.
       They launched GiveSendGo in 2015 and now estimate the site has
       raised around $25 million so far, spread out among about 8,000
       successful campaigns—everything from missions and Habitat for
       Humanity projects to, more recently, funding for adoption or
       foster care.
       “We got to talking about how this is really what the church
       should be doing,” Wilson said. “The church in Acts would give
       what they could and help support each other. This is the kind of
       the same thing.”
       In practice, though, it’s not that simple. For one thing, the
       site doesn’t require campaigners to be professing Christians or
       be raising money for explicitly Christian endeavors. In fact,
       GiveSendGo offers a case study in the pitfalls of populist
       funding. It’s come under fire recently for hosting deeply
       controversial campaigns.
       Earlier this year, a high-ranking member of the violent
       alt-right group Proud Boys raised more than $100,000 on
       GiveSendGo.
       Kyle Rittenhouse, accused of murdering two Black Lives Matter
       protesters in Wisconsin during the unrest last summer, has
       raised more than a half million dollars for his defense.
       Before his murder conviction in the killing of George Floyd,
       former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin allegedly raised
       more than $6,000 (his campaign is no longer active).
       Wilson and Wells told Religion News Service that they decide
       which campaigns to allow on their site on a case-by-case basis
       and that they don’t want to participate in “cancel culture” or
       presume to be “judge and jury.”
       There’s a difference, of course, between crowdfunding for a
       cause (controversial or not) and the patron-artist relationship
       fostered on sites like Kickstarter and Patreon.
       GiveSendGo is perhaps a cautionary tale: When anyone can launch
       a crowdfunding effort with the click of a button, people will
       ask for money for anything—and some people will give money for
       anything. So how can Christians think critically about what we
       should create, and where we should give?
       Sustaining income?
       Hannah Anderson is a Christian writer whose work often explores
       the relationship between home life and the marketplace. Anderson
       thinks crowdfunding may appeal to people, especially women, who
       are used to giving away their artistic work for free.
       She first began writing as a young mom, she said, in part
       because her family needed the money, but also because she felt a
       calling to create. “That’s just a human need,” she said.
       For many like Anderson, crowdfunding and subscription platforms
       may seem enticing. They’re often marketed as an alternative to
       the uber-competitive and exclusive “marketplace”—Kickstarter’s
       mission is to let “creative people…take the wheel” rather than
       leaving “art world elites and entertainment executives to define
       our culture.”
       But many who have found success in crowdfunding already had a
       steady following built through more conventional means.
       The Holy Post podcast had been around for four years before the
       show added a Patreon with bonus content in 2016, and its popular
       cohosts author Skye Jethani and Phil Vischer (of VeggieTales
       fame) had name recognition with Christians long before that.
       They now bring in over $18,000 a month on Patreon.
       While direct funding may allow artists to finally monetize their
       work, it’s usually not enough to pay the bills.
       Beth Barnard says she never planned for her album’s Kickstarter
       to put food on her family’s table. “We wanted funds to be able
       to pay the band well and to check all the boxes of what it is to
       make a record,” she said.
       That funding problem isn’t exclusive to crowdfunding sites,
       though. Even established Christian authors who publish books the
       old-fashioned way typically don’t make a sustaining income on
       writing alone.
       “Almost everybody who is publishing in traditional ways in the
       Christian world, who are successful authors … almost everybody
       has a day job,” said Trevin Wax, outgoing senior vice president
       for theology and communications at Lifeway Christian Resources.
       Publishing is “at best a nice little bonus.”
       For that reason and others, Wax doesn’t worry that crowdfunding
       sites will elbow out traditional publishing houses. Lifeway
       offers a machine of publicists, editors, graphic designers,
       inventory managers, and, crucially, event planners that those
       going the independent route won’t have. The events are key, Wax
       says; any author who wants even a modicum of success must also
       be speaking in front of audiences.
       Expectation of intimacy
       So if the majority of Christian creators using crowdfunding
       won’t make a sustainable family income on the art alone, what
       else can they sell?
       Crowdfunding offers something that traditional publishing
       doesn’t: intimacy between creators and their audience. But the
       expectation of that intimacy—which comes to the forefront on
       social media and through these subscription models—can be more
       rewarding and more demanding.
       Glorious Weakness author Alia Joy used to field requests from
       committed readers who wanted to send her money through Venmo to
       support her work. After her 2020 conference plans were called
       off during the pandemic, she took the readers up on their
       suggestion and started a Patreon.
       “The people that have believed in my writing have really rallied
       around me,” said Joy, who lives in Oregon with her three kids,
       husband, and widowed mother.
       Joy’s bipolar disorder, physical disability, and bouts with
       severe depression have often kept her from writing consistently.
       In February of this year, she wrote a confessional post to her
       Patreon supporters apologizing for her inconsistency and trying
       to set a more realistic expectation.
       “When I have words, I will serve them here,” she wrote. “When I
       don’t, I will rest. His grace is sufficient.”
       The $5 Patreon subscriptions total about $350 a month, which Joy
       said she uses to cover the cost of her psych medication.
       She says her readers have been mostly kind and supportive. She
       has less of a problem with getting pushback from followers than
       with hearing from some who feel too connected to her when she is
       not able to reciprocate.
       “I 100 percent don’t care if people just don’t like me,” she
       says. “But if people ask me, ‘Hey, can we go get coffee?’ and I
       say I can’t do that … if they’re like, ‘I’m not worth having
       coffee with,’ that actually is the thing that makes it really
       hard for me to set boundaries.”
       After she released her book, in which she wrote about her
       childhood sexual trauma and other heavy issues, Joy says she
       started getting really personal, weighty emails from readers who
       wrote as if they knew her—and were expecting a response in kind.
       For a while, Joy shared an 800 number that connects callers with
       mental health experts in their area. She’d send it to especially
       troubled supporters.
       Whenever the line between person and brand blurs, expectations
       become unmanageable, Anderson warns. Financial backers might
       feel too much entitlement to creators’ content (and time).
       Creators might view negative feedback as a referendum on them as
       a person.
       In addition to the personal risks, she sees another potential
       problem: The quality of the art could suffer. “You have the
       accountability of contenting your audience, but to me that’s not
       a good form of accountability,” she said.
       If the artist is the product, she says, there’s no editor
       necessary. That might feel like freedom, but when artists focus
       more on their fans than on their work, it can also lead to
       stagnation.
       “If you enter into this space like, ‘Oh, I’m just going to give
       my thoughts to the world’ … there’s no reciprocation about
       whether your thoughts should be shifted,” she said.
       “I would worry that people who go down the Patreon route without
       a clear sense of putting boundaries in place for themselves …
       one of the things it would do is it would stifle your personal
       growth.”
       Wax at Lifeway says professional editors push writers to do
       better work. “There’s always going to be a need for traditional
       publishers to vet writers really well and edit their work with
       excellence.”
       Scripture, too, warns of the potential downsides of a
       crowdfunding model, with James criticizing churches that catered
       to their generous benefactors (James 2:1–4).
       There’s no doubt crowdfunding sites like Patreon and Kickstarter
       have paved the way for albums, podcasts, articles, theological
       insight, and art that may never have otherwise been produced.
       Beth Barnard may never have released another album if doing it
       required a year of touring apart from her family. Alia Joy may
       never have found an outlet that would publish the heartfelt
       prose her audience has come to love—and that her disability
       keeps her from producing consistently.
       But despite their clever marketing, crowdfunding sites offer
       neither perfect populism nor unfettered creative freedom. They
       don’t eliminate many of the setbacks of traditional publishing:
       Some really good artists still won’t find an audience. Some
       really bad art will. “Success,” after all, still hinges on
       popularity and money. And those looking for money for nefarious
       reasons will also try this new avenue to get it.
       This presents challenges for Christians on all sides of the
       crowdfunding relationship: to make sure we’re creating good
       things that warrant distribution and to make sure we’re giving
       money to those good things—not as a bid for influence over the
       person creating them.
       For her part, Hannah Anderson doesn’t support many Patreons.
       Instead, she likes looking for digital “tip jars” (usually links
       to PayPal or other money-transfer apps) at the ends of articles
       she enjoyed.
       “I link it more directly to the artifact,” she said. “I’m going
       to give you money for this thing, not for you.”
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       TikTok in Tongues? Charismatics Disagree.
       Spirit-filled content creators test theological limits on social
       media.
       Michael Paul Corder says he “cut his teeth” praying in public by
       going around to grocery stores and striking up conversations,
       asking folks if they wanted to pray. But even in the Bible Belt
       of East Tennessee, he found people were often hesitant or
       embarrassed.
       Not so, he said, on TikTok.
       Corder does a livestream open prayer every day, in which he
       prays for the hundreds of people who hop into the virtual
       chatroom without embarrassment. Many of his nearly 165,000
       followers who join express feeling relief or calm when he prays
       for them. Their pain or healing is not something that can be
       verified, Corder admits, but still, he believes their presence
       testifies to something missing from their churches.
       “At those churches, they’re not praying for the sick, or if they
       are, they’re not seeing results. At mainstream churches, you get
       more of a philosophical lecture,” Corder told Religion News
       Service.
       Sometimes on his livestreams, Corder will pray in tongues—a
       practice popular among charismatic and Pentecostal Christians
       who say the unknown language is a gift from the Holy Spirit, as
       described in Acts 2.
       “I think words are not the greatest at describing the
       sensation,” Corder said. “It’s being filled, it’s being
       baptized.”
       “It’s a little mysterious,” he added, saying he speaks in
       tongues when the Holy Spirit moves him.
       Pentecostal or charismatic TikTok is a thriving community of
       diverse Christians. It’s multilingual and multicultural and
       spans generations. Its hashtags have millions of views. Here,
       Christians who identify as charismatic, nondenominational,
       Assemblies of God, or Pentecostal all gather to share
       encouragement and witness for their on the internet.
       Many of the videos on charismatic TikTok are dedicated to
       prayer—talking about prayer, encouraging others in prayer or
       praying on camera. In the charismatic tradition, this can often
       include praying in tongues, also known as glossolalia, and the
       hashtag for speaking in tongues has more than 4 million views.
       Heidi Campbell, author of the recent book Digital Creatives and
       the Rethinking of Religious Authority, says new media has long
       been a ripe platform for evangelization and religious
       discussion—from the printing press to TikTok.
       Before the internet became widely available to the public,
       Campbell described participating in charismatic email-based
       communities on internet relay chats, forerunners of popular
       messenger platforms like AOL Instant Messenger.
       “If you were speaking in tongues, you would just kind of let
       your fingers go over random keys—like gobbly goop,” said
       Campbell, “but that was the symbolism of speaking in tongues.”
       In nearly 30 years of research on faith practices in the digital
       world, Campbell believes that Pentecostal theology provides a
       warrant for enthusiastic embrace of new technology.
       “Pentecostal theology is all about being led by the Holy
       Spirit,” said Campbell, “so the idea of the Holy Spirit moving
       through the computer or having a spiritual experience through
       the computer is very acceptable.”
       But not all believers on charismatic TikTok agree.
       Taylor Cuthbertson, 27, has 27,000 followers on TikTok who watch
       her videos about living as a Pentecostal Christian. For
       Cuthbertson, there are some things that “are a big no on TikTok”
       and one of them is praying.
       “I’m a very private person,” she said.
       Michael Grattan, pastor of Manhattan Pentecostal Church,
       believes prayer belongs in public, but he’s not sure it belongs
       on TikTok.
       Grattan explains the tradition of speaking in tongues as a sign
       of God’s spirit dwelling with baptized believers. The apostles
       were able to speak in many languages, to be understood as they
       addressed a crowd of people from different nations gathered in
       Jerusalem.
       In a monolingual community, Grattan said, that sort of diversity
       of language becomes unnecessary, so the often unintelligible
       prayer language of “speaking in tongues” becomes a way of
       “expressing the deepest parts of your spirit,” Grattan said.
       It’s perfectly appropriate for a public setting, Grattan said.
       But he cited Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians, which
       reads, “Let everything be done decently and in order.” On the
       internet, Grattan sees disorderliness and chaos.
       Grattan does have an account on TikTok. “It’s a good way to get
       the pulse of the people,” he said. But he doesn’t post on it.
       He’s not sure it’s the ripest ground for prayer or
       evangelization, saying he thinks the internet’s constant
       stimulation drowns out the message of the gospel.
       “When you have so many choices, it’s hard to see the real value
       and it’s hard to communicate value,” he said, “The vistas of
       knowledge available on the internet are unimaginable. But the
       flip side of that is that meaning is lost in the midst of it.”
       “TikTok to me is the ultimate noise,” Grattan said.
       Montana Cooley sees her mission on TikTok as breaking through
       the noise. “I want to spread the love of God,” she said.
       At the end of 2020, Cooley, 19, said she was in a dark place.
       And then she started getting more involved again at the
       Assemblies of God church at which her great-grandfather was a
       preacher.
       “I fell back in love, I guess,” she said.
       She wouldn’t show video of herself praying in tongues, however.
       First, she said, because it’s not premeditated but rather
       prompted by the Holy Spirit. “Sometimes I’ll do it out in public
       when the spirit comes my way,” Cooley said. But mostly because
       it usually happens in church.
       Cooley does however talk about her experiences praying in the
       spirit to her 15,000 followers because she wants them to know
       that talking in tongues is a part of the Christian life.
       “Some people think that talking in tongues is demonic,” she
       said, “but it’s evidence, showing other people that the Holy
       Spirit is there in your presence.”
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       Is Evangelicalism Due for a Hundred-Year Schism?
       Our divisions are markedly political, and they echo religious
       controversies of the past.
       “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You
       shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to
       judgment,’” Jesus told the crowd in the Sermon on the Mount.
       “But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or
       sister will be subject to judgment. … You have heard that it was
       said, ‘You shall not commit adultery,’” he continued. “But I
       tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already
       committed adultery with her in his heart” (Matt. 5:21-22,
       27-28). He goes on to set a higher standard in other aspects of
       life, too, a standard where even private intentions matter to
       God.
       The future of American evangelicalism—particularly white
       evangelicalism, a part often wrongly mistaken for the whole—has
       been subject to intense scrutiny for at least half a decade, and
       this year’s departures of Russell Moore (who has begun a public
       theology project here at CT) and Beth Moore (no relation to
       Russell) from the Southern Baptist Convention have revealed just
       how deep those divisions are.
       As I’ve browsed reporting on the Moores’ decisions and read
       analyses on whether the US evangelical movement is heading for a
       schism—a complete and formal break in fellowship—Jesus’ words
       about murder and adultery keep coming to mind: If intentions
       matter so much, have we split already?
       Widened and embittered division in the movement is certainly
       impossible to deny. The specific issues are many, some
       comparatively new (critical race theory, former President Donald
       Trump), some all too familiar (racism and race relations beyond
       the one theory, roles of women, sexual ethics, Christian
       nationalism, church handling of abuse), all with a political
       edge.
       It’s not primarily about different policy agendas or rival
       partisan loyalties. On paper, a lot of that remains unchanged.
       The political division I see is more, as CT president Timothy
       Dalrymple wrote in April, about different informational worlds
       feeding different fears, hopes, habits of speech, and political
       priorities. And that political aspect is crucial, in two ways,
       to thinking through where we are now and where we may go next.
       The first is this: If we were to diagram where American
       evangelicals coalesce around the issues I’ve just listed, the
       collective result would look a lot like a new (and newly
       important) tribal division in US politics.
       For a long time, there was a stereotype that cast Republicans as
       rich people who go to country clubs and work at big banks, and
       Democrats—Hollywood and the media aside—as poor and
       working-class. This was a decent shorthand once, but no longer.
       Nationally, we aren’t polarized according to income as we once
       were; the “diploma divide” is now the more useful indicator, and
       its importance is growing. More educated people increasingly
       vote Democratic, while the less educated increasingly vote
       Republican. That disparity contributes to a defensive populism
       on the American right, including among educated Republicans, via
       the perception that elite institutions (where college degrees
       are a baseline for participation) are all controlled by
       political enemies.
       Among white evangelicals, the education-politics correspondence
       isn’t so strong. Being college-educated doesn’t make you a
       Democrat or a progressive theologically or politically. But
       there’s an echo of the diploma divide in the discord among
       evangelicals.
       The populist faction in evangelicalism similarly accuses
       prominent figures and institutions (“big eva,” in the Twitter
       terminology) of neglecting or abandoning truth to curry secular,
       liberal favor. Such accusations played a role in both Moores’
       departures from the SBC, though both remain dependably
       theologically conservative.
       In a widely shared Twitter thread in late May, historian of
       American religion and politics (and CT contributor) Paul Matzko
       compared this divide to older divisions in American Christianity
       in the 1830s and 1930s. Those were times, like ours, of “intense
       political polarization,” he told me in an email exchange, as
       well as “intensive technological innovation, dramatic social
       change, and widespread fears that something vital was being lost
       in the shuffle.”
       Matzko believes our politicized breach is already in its middle
       stages and will prove irreparable. He anticipates “the current
       divide will widen into a series of formal splits that cut
       through each of the major evangelical denominations and
       institutions,” a forecast with which I struggle to disagree.
       Yet I’m less sure about his expectation that the populist
       faction “retain control of the existing infrastructure.” In many
       cases, I think that will prove true—the Southern Baptist
       Convention could become one such case, though the June gathering
       in Nashville seems to have delayed it.
       Elsewhere, however, institutions may go to progressive
       evangelicals and still-churched post-evangelicals, to borrow a
       label from a June Mere Orthodoxyarticle proposing a six-way
       fracture of US evangelicalism. See, for example, Bethany
       Christian Services’ shift on LGBT adoption, or how disagreement
       over gay marriage within Mennonite Church USA has led to
       conservative departures while progressives stayed put.
       The question of reparability brings me to the second way
       focusing on the political nature of this division is
       instructive: Our turmoil is significantly about political
       content consumption and how it competes with Scripture, pastor,
       and church community to claim our attention and disciple our
       minds.
       Matzko’s Twitter thread gestured in this direction: “Evangelical
       clergy only get their congregants in the pews one to three times
       a week,” he wrote, while their favored political media “get them
       every day, all day.” When there’s a conflict between the two,
       polling suggests, political media win and the intra-evangelical
       divide expands.
       Matzko highlighted political media sources like Newsmax, One
       America News, and outlets further right, which is the pulpit’s
       populist competition, but the same dynamic can and does emerge
       anywhere on the political spectrum.
       The bad news, as he wrote to me, is it’s very difficult to break
       habits of heavy media consumption in a political echo chamber.
       The resultant “influence gap” between church and political
       content will prove a durable challenge to discipleship
       regardless of the issue arguments at hand.
       But the good news—as Matzko and the Mere Orthodoxy authors,
       Michael Graham and Skyler Flowers, noted alike—is that as
       alarming, precarious, and dire as intra-church conflicts feel
       now, some past upheavals have ultimately borne good fruit.
       “Something new can be built on a firmer foundation, new churches
       founded, new magazines started (or older magazines expanded),
       new denominations coalesce, new communities engaged and
       churched, and so on,” Matzko wrote to me. “You wouldn’t have
       thought it possible in the 1930s,” when the
       liberal-fundamentalist schism happened, “but if it happened
       then, why couldn’t it happen in, say, the 2030s?”
       And after all, Graham and Flowers conclude, the “church is not
       held together by its own strength but by the unbreakable bond of
       the unity of the Spirit. With this confidence, the church can
       move forward into this sorting, whatever it may look like, with
       hope that the Lord is using it to strengthen and embolden his
       church for fruitful mission in this age.”
       I suspect that we have indeed already split in our hearts, and
       that it is impossible to go back to what we had before. Our
       schism is already here by the standard Jesus raises in the
       Sermon on the Mount, and we too often do not behave as we ought
       with the knowledge that, together, we “are of Christ, and Christ
       is of God” (1 Cor. 3:23). We may well be “subject to judgment,”
       not least for treating fellow Christians as our enemies. Yet
       even here, God can and will work for our good (Rom. 8:28).
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       Indian Christians Discuss Different Reports on Persecution
       Evangelical Fellowship of India panel responds to Pew research
       as annual tally of religious freedom violations gets released.
       Christians in India are seeking to square conflicting research
       on communal tensions in their country.
       About 100 Christian leaders from across the subcontinent
       attended an online consultation last month hosted by the
       Evangelical Fellowship of India (EFI) to discuss the findings
       and ramifications of a recent landmark report by the Pew
       Research Center, entitled “Religion in India: Tolerance and
       Segregation.”
       A panel of seven leaders convened by EFI, which represents
       65,000 churches and hundreds of Christian organizations across
       India, discussed the strengths and weaknesses of the report’s
       methodology and engaged attendees in Q&A on Pew’s findings on
       tolerance, segregation, religious beliefs, identity,
       nationalism, and more. Indian Christian sources previously told
       CT the report offered quantitative validation of their lived
       experience.
       While the report surveyed about 30,000 Indians nationwide across
       six faiths and 17 languages, including about 1,000 Christians,
       the EFI panel wished the sample size had been even larger—given
       their nation’s 1.38 billion people and its size and
       diversity—and thus better able to examine regional differences
       in complex issues.
       Their biggest area of disagreement: the level of communal
       tensions between India’s majority Hindus and its Christians,
       Muslims, and other religious minorities.
       Pew found 9 in 10 Indian adults say they feel very free to
       practice their religion, while 8 in 10 say respecting other
       religions is very important to their own faith as well as to
       being truly Indian. Yet Pew also found a fair amount of support
       for religious segregation. For example, a third of Hindus in
       India would not be willing to accept a Christian as a neighbor,
       and neither would a quarter of Indian Muslims or Sikhs.
       “Indians, then, simultaneously express enthusiasm for religious
       tolerance and a consistent preference for keeping their
       religious communities in segregated spheres,” wrote Pew
       researchers. “They live together separately.”
       “It was generally agreed that the [Pew] report, although
       unsurprising in some respects, does not adequately reflect the
       ground reality in India—particularly the narrative of hate and
       polarization,” said Vijayesh Lal, EFI’s general secretary and a
       panelist during the consultation.
       As CT previously noted, tensions over increasing Hindu
       nationalism in India have caused the nation to climb the ranks
       of persecution watchdogs in recent years. Open Doors ranks India
       at No. 10 on its 2021 World Watch List of the 50 countries where
       it’s hardest to be a Christian. The US Commission on
       International Religious Freedom recommends India be added to the
       State Department’s list of Countries of Particular Concern. Pew
       itself calculates that India has the highest level of social
       hostilities regarding religion among the world’s 25
       most-populous countries, as well as one of the higher levels of
       government restrictions.
       Pew found that only 1 in 10 Indian Christians reported being
       discriminated against in the past 12 months because of their
       faith. Yet this ranged regionally from 19 percent of Christians
       in the East and 12 percent in the Northeast to 6 percent in the
       South. (Pew could not break out Christian responses regionally
       in the North, Central, or West due to sample sizes.)
       Days after EFI’s panel assessed the Pew report, its Religious
       Liberty Commission (RLC) released its latest report on hate and
       violence against Christians in India, concluding the number of
       incidents targeting Christians in the first six months of 2021
       has increased compared to the same time period last year—even
       despite a brutal second wave of COVID-19.
       The commission recorded 145 incidents targeting Christians from
       January to June 2021. Researchers stated the violence “was
       vicious, widespread, and ranged from murder to attacks on
       church, false cases, police immunity and connivance, and the now
       normalized social exclusion or boycott which is becoming viral.”
       The analysis documents three murders, 22 cases of physical
       violence, 22 instances of attacks on churches or places of
       worship or their vandalization, and 20 cases of ostracizing or
       social boycotting in rural areas of families which had refused
       to renege on their Christian faith and had stood up to mobs and
       political leaders from the local majority community.
       “The most alarming development has been the expansion and scope
       of the notorious Freedom of Religion Acts, which are popularly
       known as the anti-conversion laws, earlier enforced in 7 states,
       to more states ruled by the Bharatiya Janata Party,” stated RLC
       researchers. “Once targeting only Christians, they are now armed
       also against Muslims in the guise of curbing ‘Love Jihad.’ This
       is an Islamophobic term coined some years ago to demonize
       marriages between Muslim men and non-Muslim women, particularly
       those belonging to the Hindu upper castes.
       “The laws ostensibly punish forced or fraudulent religious
       conversions,” the researchers stated. “But in practice, they are
       used to criminalize all conversions, especially in non-urban
       settings.”
       For example, a mob of religious extremists forcefully barged
       into a church and assaulted 25 Christians, including women
       worshipers, on February 7 in the Alirajpur district of Madhya
       Pradesh, according to the report. The attackers also lodged a
       complaint against the Christians at the Udaygarh police station
       alleging conversions. This resulted in the police detaining and
       interrogating the two dozen Christians and filing charges
       against their pastor Dilip Vasunia under the state’s Freedom of
       Religion ordinance. The pastor was imprisoned and finally made
       bail after a few days, while no action was taken against the
       attackers who assaulted the Christians.
       The report also narrates how on June 28, police in Uttar Pradesh
       arrested pastor Shivkumar Verma and another Christian on trumped
       up charges of religious conversions. Local sources alleged that
       since there was no evidence corroborating the accusations,
       police demanded bribes to release the two Christians. Verma
       spent a month in prison before finally being released at the end
       of July.
       The EFI commission made it clear that its report is indicative
       of current events, not an exhaustive tally, and the actual
       number of sectarian incidents may be much larger.
       Madhya Pradesh, the central state of India, and Uttar Pradesh,
       the most populous state, led the tally of incidents against
       Christians, followed by Chhattisgarh and Karnataka.
       “Violence against Christians by non-state actors in India stems
       from an environment of targeted hate,” stated researchers. “The
       translation of the hate into violence is sparked by a sense of
       impunity generated in India’s administrative apparatus.”
       The RLC report offered recommendations to the government of
       India. Chief among them: enacting a comprehensive national
       legislation against targeted and communal (sectarian) violence;
       advising the various state governments to repeal anti-conversion
       laws that limit religious freedom and are being misused against
       religious minorities; the enaction of laws to check hate speech
       and propaganda; and amending paragraph 3 of the Constitution
       (Scheduled Castes) Order of 1950 to include Christians and
       Muslims.
       “The sad reality is that minorities are targeted, and these
       incidents occur and despite the pandemic have increased over
       last year’s figures,” said Lal. “This appears to be in contrast
       with the Pew report that would like us to believe that tolerance
       runs high in present-day India. While there are examples of
       tolerance historically, the dividing of people driven by narrow
       political interest is real as well and too often makes use of
       religion for polarizing people and carrying out sectarian
       violence.”
       Panelist John Dayal, a Delhi-based Christian political analyst
       and cofounder and past secretary general of the All India
       Christian Council, said the report could mislead global thought
       leaders, the media, and fellow Christians into a “dipstick
       understanding” of religion in India and miss the “extreme
       polarization” in recent years.
       Pew’s research found that 53 percent of all Indians and 44
       percent of Indian Christians think religious diversity benefits
       India, while 24 percent of all Indians and 26 percent of Indian
       Christians think it harms the country. Christians were the least
       likely of any religious group to say that religious diversity
       benefits India.
       The EFI panel concluded with recommendations for the Indian
       church.
       The first was for Indian believers to go beyond the segregations
       of the denominationalism that exists within the church in India,
       and to examine how a more inclusive Christian spirituality could
       be developed.
       “Failure to do this may destroy our ability to be a witness in
       the nation,” warned panelist C. B. Samuel, a respected Bible
       teacher and former executive director of EFICOR (formerly the
       Evangelical Fellowship of India Commission on Relief).
       The divides of regionalism and caste in Indian society exist
       also within the church, thus a noticeable difference in the
       response of south Indian Christians vs. their brethren in the
       north or northeast. “Therefore, a conscious modeling of church
       which breaks the barriers is very important,” said Samuel.
       Both panelists and participants stressed the themes of common
       humanity and the intentional visibility of good deeds. It was
       also shared that the church must be intentional about critiquing
       power issues.
       “The report speaks about segregation, but the core issue is the
       misuse of power that leads to segregation which eventually
       destroys common humanity and leads to silos,” said panelist
       Richard Howell, principal at the Caleb Institute of Theology and
       past general secretary of EFI.
       Howell also stressed the primacy of theological identity rather
       than cultural identity. “We have forgotten our theological
       identity. If we only major on cultural identity, there is no
       critique of power left,” he said. “Our critique comes from a
       transcendence. We must never forget this.”
       Panelist Ashish Alexander, head of the English department at Sam
       Higginbottom University of Agriculture, Technology, and Sciences
       in Allahabad, pointed out that during the survey Christians were
       asked if Muslims were discriminated against in India and only 16
       percent agreed. When Muslims were asked the same about
       Christians, only 8 percent agreed. Hence, Indian Christians need
       to be sensitized about Indian Muslims and vice versa, and a
       bridge needs to be built.
       The consultation ended with a call for deeper research into
       themes both explored in the Pew study and beyond it, such as
       polarization, hate campaigns against minorities, and
       Islamophobia in India.
       “I also wish that Pew would have dissected Indian Christianity,”
       said Dayal, “to find out what are our strengths and soft spots.”
       “We do need more studies, more understanding among ourselves,”
       said panelist Vinay Samuel, founder of the Oxford Center for
       Mission Studies and the Oxford Centre for Religion and Public
       Life. “Identities have boundaries as well. So, we do need to
       look at how different groups are constructing their identities,
       i.e. South Indian Christians, North Indian Christians, Punjabi
       Christians, etc.”
       “There is a need to devise institutions to bring India’s
       religious communities onto common platforms to discuss issues
       and diffuse tensions,” said Lal in summary at the end of the
       consultation.
       “In India, religion has to be experienced. Experience comes
       first, then relationship and thirdly conceptuality,” said
       Howell. “Where Christians have taken time to build bridges,
       things are better. We [Christians] must take time to build
       bridges with all communities.”
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