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       #Post#: 16352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: Billy Evmur Date: August 16, 2020, 11:33 am
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       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=879.msg16280#msg16280 date=1597510437]
       Before I comment and make a statement that causes unnecessary
       discussions, are you using eschatological as it apply's strictly
       to an individual or as originally used in theology as it relates
       to mankind and end times?
       For me it makes a difference, but then I am just a strange
       person on theology I have been told.
       [/quote]
       We are speaking about prophecy as it relates to the end-times,
       Bro Blade seems to have picked up the "left behind" nonsense,
       which I find surprising considering his doctrinal point of view
       on other matters.
       Nobody gets left behind.
       #Post#: 16355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: patrick jane Date: August 16, 2020, 12:00 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=879.msg16352#msg16352
       date=1597595625]
       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=879.msg16280#msg16280 date=1597510437]
       Before I comment and make a statement that causes unnecessary
       discussions, are you using eschatological as it apply's strictly
       to an individual or as originally used in theology as it relates
       to mankind and end times?
       For me it makes a difference, but then I am just a strange
       person on theology I have been told.
       [/quote]
       We are speaking about prophecy as it relates to the end-times,
       Bro Blade seems to have picked up the "left behind" nonsense,
       which I find surprising considering his doctrinal point of view
       on other matters.
       Nobody gets left behind.
       [/quote]I get nightmares that I'm the only one left behind to
       fight the demons.  ;D
       #Post#: 16356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: guest116 Date: August 16, 2020, 12:08 pm
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       That's a good one PJ.  While mine is similar being the last one
       left to fight demons, it wasn't caused left behind, but in mine,
       I overslept.   ;D ;D
       #Post#: 16362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: Billy Evmur Date: August 16, 2020, 5:17 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=879.msg16356#msg16356 date=1597597694]
       Thats a good on PJ.  While mine is similar being last one left
       to fight demons, it wasn't caused left behind, but in mine I
       over slept.   ;D ;D
       [/quote]
       By the way I'm not making fun of Bro. Blade.
       But this took me right back to when I worked as a railman for
       London underground, I've never been very good at getting up in
       the morning and sometimes we had to start at 4.00 am.
       I was ALWAYS late late late.
       My station master was real old fashioned cockney, one morning I
       arrived late as ever, hat and uniform askew, totally puffed. He
       began talking quietly in my ear "I 'ope for your sake that when
       the Good Lawd does return [shouting "'E don't come back in the
       mawning cos if 'E does YOU'LL BLINKING WELL MISS 'IM"
       #Post#: 16366--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: guest8 Date: August 16, 2020, 11:07 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=879.msg16362#msg16362
       date=1597616257]
       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=879.msg16356#msg16356 date=1597597694]
       Thats a good on PJ.  While mine is similar being last one left
       to fight demons, it wasn't caused left behind, but in mine I
       over slept.   ;D ;D
       [/quote]
       By the way I'm not making fun of Bro. Blade.
       But this took me right back to when I worked as a railman for
       London underground, I've never been very good at getting up in
       the morning and sometimes we had to start at 4.00 am.
       I was ALWAYS late late late.
       My station master was real old fashioned cockney, one morning I
       arrived late as ever, hat and uniform askew, totally puffed. He
       began talking quietly in my ear "I 'ope for your sake that when
       the Good Lawd does return [shouting "'E don't come back in the
       mawning cos if 'E does YOU'LL BLINKING WELL MISS 'IM"
       [/quote]
       very cute Billy....lol
       Lets look at it like this....Lets say I am right.......What is
       your Plan B?
       For if I am wrong, Jesus is going to beat up and kill His Bride
       before taking her out to dinner...I can really take comfort in
       that......(1 Thes 4:13-18)
       For if I am wrong, then I have no doubt I will die with HIS name
       on my lips, for I will not live through Daniel's 70th week.
       I know you are looking forward to those days Billy where 1/4 of
       the earth will die from the Seal Judgements or do you deny those
       days also..
       The charismatic teachings of the ROC, 9 out of 10 denominations
       and non-denominationals, will not get  to Heaven...There is a
       narrow road where only a few will make it..
       Blade
       #Post#: 16367--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: patrick jane Date: August 16, 2020, 11:13 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=879.msg16366#msg16366
       date=1597637221]
       [quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=879.msg16362#msg16362
       date=1597616257]
       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=879.msg16356#msg16356 date=1597597694]
       Thats a good on PJ.  While mine is similar being last one left
       to fight demons, it wasn't caused left behind, but in mine I
       over slept.   ;D ;D
       [/quote]
       By the way I'm not making fun of Bro. Blade.
       But this took me right back to when I worked as a railman for
       London underground, I've never been very good at getting up in
       the morning and sometimes we had to start at 4.00 am.
       I was ALWAYS late late late.
       My station master was real old fashioned cockney, one morning I
       arrived late as ever, hat and uniform askew, totally puffed. He
       began talking quietly in my ear "I 'ope for your sake that when
       the Good Lawd does return [shouting "'E don't come back in the
       mawning cos if 'E does YOU'LL BLINKING WELL MISS 'IM"
       [/quote]
       very cute Billy....lol
       Lets look at it like this....Lets say I am right.......What is
       your Plan B?
       For if I am wrong, Jesus is going to beat up and kill His Bride
       before taking her out to dinner...I can really take comfort in
       that......(1 Thes 4:13-18)
       For if I am wrong, then I have no doubt I will die with HIS name
       on my lips, for I will not live through Daniel's 70th week.
       I know you are looking forward to those days Billy where 1/4 of
       the earth will die from the Seal Judgements or do you deny those
       days also..
       The charismatic teachings of the ROC, 9 out of 10 denominations
       and non-denominationals, will not get  to Heaven...There is a
       narrow road where only a few will make it..
       Blade
       [/quote]Good post Blade.
       #Post#: 16376--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: guest116 Date: August 16, 2020, 11:45 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       I fr5eely admit I am torn on this and it caused me consternation
       in seminary.  There were clear divisions of everyone gets in and
       no one but a select few get the golden ticket so to speak.  I
       actually could see both sides in the argument be valid as they
       could support them with scriptures and past great theologian's
       writings.    But doesn't it really come down to what type of God
       you think God is?  Is he the fire and brimstone one of the old
       testament or the benevolent one of the new testament and most of
       the modern-day writers.   My reading lead me to believe that it
       is some wear in between.  I think when end days happen everyone
       has the chance, but only a few will do what is needed in the
       end.
       But again, that's just my humble opinion.
       #Post#: 16394--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: Billy Evmur Date: August 17, 2020, 5:27 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=879.msg16367#msg16367
       date=1597637584]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=879.msg16366#msg16366
       date=1597637221]
       [quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=879.msg16362#msg16362
       date=1597616257]
       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=879.msg16356#msg16356 date=1597597694]
       Thats a good on PJ.  While mine is similar being last one left
       to fight demons, it wasn't caused left behind, but in mine I
       over slept.   ;D ;D
       [/quote]
       By the way I'm not making fun of Bro. Blade.
       But this took me right back to when I worked as a railman for
       London underground, I've never been very good at getting up in
       the morning and sometimes we had to start at 4.00 am.
       I was ALWAYS late late late.
       My station master was real old fashioned cockney, one morning I
       arrived late as ever, hat and uniform askew, totally puffed. He
       began talking quietly in my ear "I 'ope for your sake that when
       the Good Lawd does return [shouting "'E don't come back in the
       mawning cos if 'E does YOU'LL BLINKING WELL MISS 'IM"
       [/quote]
       very cute Billy....lol
       Lets look at it like this....Lets say I am right.......What is
       your Plan B?
       For if I am wrong, Jesus is going to beat up and kill His Bride
       before taking her out to dinner...I can really take comfort in
       that......(1 Thes 4:13-18)
       For if I am wrong, then I have no doubt I will die with HIS name
       on my lips, for I will not live through Daniel's 70th week.
       I know you are looking forward to those days Billy where 1/4 of
       the earth will die from the Seal Judgements or do you deny those
       days also..
       The charismatic teachings of the ROC, 9 out of 10 denominations
       and non-denominationals, will not get  to Heaven...There is a
       narrow road where only a few will make it..
       Blade
       [/quote]Good post Blade.
       [/quote]
       it's nonsense
       #Post#: 16395--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: Billy Evmur Date: August 17, 2020, 5:46 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=879.msg16366#msg16366
       date=1597637221]
       [quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=879.msg16362#msg16362
       date=1597616257]
       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=879.msg16356#msg16356 date=1597597694]
       Thats a good on PJ.  While mine is similar being last one left
       to fight demons, it wasn't caused left behind, but in mine I
       over slept.   ;D ;D
       [/quote]
       By the way I'm not making fun of Bro. Blade.
       But this took me right back to when I worked as a railman for
       London underground, I've never been very good at getting up in
       the morning and sometimes we had to start at 4.00 am.
       I was ALWAYS late late late.
       My station master was real old fashioned cockney, one morning I
       arrived late as ever, hat and uniform askew, totally puffed. He
       began talking quietly in my ear "I 'ope for your sake that when
       the Good Lawd does return [shouting "'E don't come back in the
       mawning cos if 'E does YOU'LL BLINKING WELL MISS 'IM"
       [/quote]
       very cute Billy....lol
       Lets look at it like this....Lets say I am right.......What is
       your Plan B?
       For if I am wrong, Jesus is going to beat up and kill His Bride
       before taking her out to dinner...I can really take comfort in
       that......(1 Thes 4:13-18)
       For if I am wrong, then I have no doubt I will die with HIS name
       on my lips, for I will not live through Daniel's 70th week.
       I know you are looking forward to those days Billy where 1/4 of
       the earth will die from the Seal Judgements or do you deny those
       days also..
       The charismatic teachings of the ROC, 9 out of 10 denominations
       and non-denominationals, will not get  to Heaven...There is a
       narrow road where only a few will make it..
       Blade
       [/quote]
       So mixed up.
       You can't distinguish between tribulation which we are told we
       must go through and God's wrath from which we are taken away.
       Many times I have shown you that Jesus said "AFTER the
       tribulation of those days ... they will see the Son of Man
       coming in the clouds with great power and glory and He will send
       forth His angels to gather the elect from the four corners of
       heaven"
       Tribulation is the persecution Jesus warned us to expect. And I
       believe the church itself is the narrow way, the only
       distinction to be made is the new birth. There will be Catholics
       there in heaven if they have been born again.
       Jesus said MANY shall come. He said His Father's house will be
       packed.
       John SAW the church [which incidentally had come out of the
       great tribulation] and it was a multitude which no man could
       number.
       The idea that just a few shrivelled souls will ever make it is
       nonsense ... and besides all this there are those who will
       inherit the earth.
       The devil will not have billions and billions of human souls. He
       took a third of the angels and my guess is he will take a third
       of mankind.
       #Post#: 16396--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Is the church ready for the great tribulation? 
       By: guest8 Date: August 17, 2020, 10:25 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=879.msg16395#msg16395
       date=1597704401]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=879.msg16366#msg16366
       date=1597637221]
       [quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=879.msg16362#msg16362
       date=1597616257]
       [quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
       link=topic=879.msg16356#msg16356 date=1597597694]
       Thats a good on PJ.  While mine is similar being last one left
       to fight demons, it wasn't caused left behind, but in mine I
       over slept.   ;D ;D
       [/quote]
       By the way I'm not making fun of Bro. Blade.
       But this took me right back to when I worked as a railman for
       London underground, I've never been very good at getting up in
       the morning and sometimes we had to start at 4.00 am.
       I was ALWAYS late late late.
       My station master was real old fashioned cockney, one morning I
       arrived late as ever, hat and uniform askew, totally puffed. He
       began talking quietly in my ear "I 'ope for your sake that when
       the Good Lawd does return [shouting "'E don't come back in the
       mawning cos if 'E does YOU'LL BLINKING WELL MISS 'IM"
       [/quote]
       very cute Billy....lol
       Lets look at it like this....Lets say I am right.......What is
       your Plan B?
       For if I am wrong, Jesus is going to beat up and kill His Bride
       before taking her out to dinner...I can really take comfort in
       that......(1 Thes 4:13-18)
       For if I am wrong, then I have no doubt I will die with HIS name
       on my lips, for I will not live through Daniel's 70th week.
       I know you are looking forward to those days Billy where 1/4 of
       the earth will die from the Seal Judgements or do you deny those
       days also..
       The charismatic teachings of the ROC, 9 out of 10 denominations
       and non-denominationals, will not get  to Heaven...There is a
       narrow road where only a few will make it..
       Blade
       [/quote]
       So mixed up.
       You can't distinguish between tribulation which we are told we
       must go through and God's wrath from which we are taken away.
       Many times I have shown you that Jesus said "AFTER the
       tribulation of those days ... they will see the Son of Man
       coming in the clouds with great power and glory and He will send
       forth His angels to gather the elect from the four corners of
       heaven"
       Tribulation is the persecution Jesus warned us to expect. And I
       believe the church itself is the narrow way, the only
       distinction to be made is the new birth. There will be Catholics
       there in heaven if they have been born again.
       Jesus said MANY shall come. He said His Father's house will be
       packed.
       John SAW the church [which incidentally had come out of the
       great tribulation] and it was a multitude which no man could
       number.
       The idea that just a few shrivelled souls will ever make it is
       nonsense ... and besides all this there are those who will
       inherit the earth.
       The devil will not have billions and billions of human souls. He
       took a third of the angels and my guess is he will take a third
       of mankind.
       [/quote]
       what about the 1/4 of mankind in the seals
       then 1/3 of mankind in the trumpets
       and
       everything in the seas, and an undisclosed number of humans in
       the bowl judgements
       How do you understand this...Dismiss it.....After al it is GOD's
       WORDs
       Blade
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