DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
<
form action=&amp
;amp;amp;quot;https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr&
amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; method=&am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;p
ost&
quot; target=&am
p;amp;amp;quot;_top&
amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;&am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt; &a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;input type=&am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;hidden&am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; name=&am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;cmd&a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; value=&
amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot
;_s-xclick&a
mp;amp;quot;&amp
;amp;amp;gt; &am
p;amp;amp;lt;input type=&amp
;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;hidden&amp
;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; name=&amp
;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;hosted_button_id&a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; val
ue=&
quot;DKL7ADEKRVUBL&a
mp;amp;amp;amp;quot;&amp
;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt; &am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;input type=&amp
;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;image&
amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; src=&a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;https://www.payp
alobjects.com/en_US/i/btn/btn_donateCC_LG.gif&am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; border=&
amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;0&a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; nam
e=&q
uot;submit&a
mp;amp;quot; alt=&am
p;amp;amp;amp;quot;PayPal - The safer, easier way to pay online!
&quo
t;&g
t; &
lt;img alt=&
amp;amp;quot;&am
p;amp;amp;quot; border=&
amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;0&a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; src=&am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;https://www.paypalobjects.com
/en_US/i/scr/pixel.gif&a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; width=&
amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;1&a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; height=&amp
;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;1&
amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;&am
p;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt; &a
mp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;lt;/form&
amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;gt;
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: EVANGELISM & THEOLOGY
*****************************************************
#Post#: 723--------------------------------------------------
The Millennial Jews
By: Billy Evmur Date: September 3, 2018, 2:41 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
HTML https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/holidays.gif
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but among the
gentile nations it had a completely different application, Paul
understood it but Peter didn't[/font]
#Post#: 725--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: guest8 Date: September 3, 2018, 7:03 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=86.msg723#msg723
date=1536003669]
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
[color=orange]So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but
among the gentile nations it had a completely different
application, Paul understood it but Peter didn't[/color][/font]
[/quote]
Peter was preaching the Kingdom gospel before Paul was on the
scene. and they were not the same. Paul told Peter and the other
Apostles after Jesus told Paul the mystery.
The Messianic Jews believe in Jesus and His Gospel. The rest of
Israel is still blinded until the Church is removed.
One other thing, only ONE THIRD of the Jews will live through
Daniel's 70th week.
Those Jews that survive will receive the "New Covenant" that
will be instilled into their hearts. They will help Jesus Christ
reign over Jerusalem for the 1000 years.
Blade
#Post#: 726--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: patrick jane Date: September 3, 2018, 7:10 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=86.msg723#msg723
date=1536003669]
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but among the
gentile nations it had a completely different application, Paul
understood it but Peter didn't[/font]
[/quote][font=times new roman]I think you hit the nail on the
head. Peter and the 11 did not comprehend the words of Jesus
Christ in certain instances as also Peter admits the Paul's
epistles are hard to understand. That's what Acts 9 MADs
understand, one gospel 1 and 1 program. Look at these the views
in these charts in the link below.[/font]
HTML https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dispensational-timelines-acts-9-acts-28-acts-9-28-hybrid1.pdf
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://theologyforums.com/index.php
[glow=red,2,300]Youtube :
[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
[glow=red,2,300][color=white][glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300][co
lor=beige]Pinterest
:[/glow][/glow][/color][/glow][/color]
HTML https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google :
HTML https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
[color=limegreen]Linkedin :[/color]
HTML https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter :
HTML https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook :
HTML https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
[glow=red,2,300]Flat Earth Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php
[color=limegreen][color=purple]Bitchute :[/color][/color]
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xUZJpNWUz2T4/
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
#Post#: 728--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: guest8 Date: September 3, 2018, 9:21 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg726#msg726
date=1536019853]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=86.msg723#msg723
date=1536003669]
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but among the
gentile nations it had a completely different application, Paul
understood it but Peter didn't[/font]
[/quote][font=times new roman]I think you hit the nail on the
head. Peter and the 11 did not comprehend the words of Jesus
Christ in certain instances as also Peter admits the Paul's
epistles are hard to understand. That's what Acts 9 MADs
understand, one gospel 1 and 1 program. Look at these the views
in these charts in the link below.[/font]
HTML https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dispensational-timelines-acts-9-acts-28-acts-9-28-hybrid1.pdf
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://theologyforums.com/index.php
[glow=red,2,300]Youtube :
[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
[glow=red,2,300][color=white][glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300][co
lor=beige]Pinterest
:[/glow][/glow][/color][/glow][/color]
HTML https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google :
HTML https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
[color=limegreen]Linkedin :[/color]
HTML https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter :
HTML https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook :
HTML https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
[glow=red,2,300]Flat Earth Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php
[color=limegreen][color=purple]Bitchute :[/color][/color]
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xUZJpNWUz2T4/
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
[/quote]
It seems to me that the Mid-Acts disregards those 3000 Jews and
Gentiles that were saved that day in Acts 2. It also disregards
those Gentiles and Jews who were saved in Act 8. ??
These were all saved and received the HOLY SPIRIT through belief
and Faith in Jesus Christ not Water Baptism.
Blade
Blade
#Post#: 730--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: patrick jane Date: September 3, 2018, 9:52 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg728#msg728
date=1536027700]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg726#msg726
date=1536019853]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=86.msg723#msg723
date=1536003669]
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but among the
gentile nations it had a completely different application, Paul
understood it but Peter didn't[/font]
[/quote][font=times new roman]I think you hit the nail on the
head. Peter and the 11 did not comprehend the words of Jesus
Christ in certain instances as also Peter admits the Paul's
epistles are hard to understand. That's what Acts 9 MADs
understand, one gospel 1 and 1 program. Look at these the views
in these charts in the link below.[/font]
HTML https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dispensational-timelines-acts-9-acts-28-acts-9-28-hybrid1.pdf
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://theologyforums.com/index.php
[glow=red,2,300]Youtube :
[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
[glow=red,2,300][color=white][glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300][co
lor=beige]Pinterest
:[/glow][/glow][/color][/glow][/color]
HTML https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google :
HTML https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
[color=limegreen]Linkedin :[/color]
HTML https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter :
HTML https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook :
HTML https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
[glow=red,2,300]Flat Earth Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php
[color=limegreen][color=purple]Bitchute :[/color][/color]
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xUZJpNWUz2T4/
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
[/quote]
It seems to me that the Mid-Acts disregards those 3000 Jews and
Gentiles that were saved that day in Acts 2. It also disregards
those Gentiles and Jews who were saved in Act 8. ??
These were all saved and received the HOLY SPIRIT through belief
and Faith in Jesus Christ not Water Baptism.
Blade
Blade
[/quote][font=comic sans ms]No, those "disregarded" items you
mentioned are included and explained in proper MAD study. Keep
in mind there are at least four distinct groups within MAD -
Acts 2, Acts9, Acts 13, Acts 28 and Hybrid Acts 9/28. I'm still
making sense of it all in the MAD community.[/font]
#Post#: 732--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: guest8 Date: September 3, 2018, 10:54 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg730#msg730
date=1536029556]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg728#msg728
date=1536027700]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg726#msg726
date=1536019853]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=86.msg723#msg723
date=1536003669]
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but among the
gentile nations it had a completely different application, Paul
understood it but Peter didn't[/font]
[/quote][font=times new roman]I think you hit the nail on the
head. Peter and the 11 did not comprehend the words of Jesus
Christ in certain instances as also Peter admits the Paul's
epistles are hard to understand. That's what Acts 9 MADs
understand, one gospel 1 and 1 program. Look at these the views
in these charts in the link below.[/font]
HTML https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dispensational-timelines-acts-9-acts-28-acts-9-28-hybrid1.pdf
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://theologyforums.com/index.php
[glow=red,2,300]Youtube :
[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
[glow=red,2,300][color=white][glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300][co
lor=beige]Pinterest
:[/glow][/glow][/color][/glow][/color]
HTML https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google :
HTML https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
[color=limegreen]Linkedin :[/color]
HTML https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter :
HTML https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook :
HTML https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
[glow=red,2,300]Flat Earth Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php
[color=limegreen][color=purple]Bitchute :[/color][/color]
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xUZJpNWUz2T4/
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
[/quote]
It seems to me that the Mid-Acts disregards those 3000 Jews and
Gentiles that were saved that day in Acts 2. It also disregards
those Gentiles and Jews who were saved in Act 8. ??
These were all saved and received the HOLY SPIRIT through belief
and Faith in Jesus Christ not Water Baptism.
Blade
Blade
[/quote][font=comic sans ms]No, those "disregarded" items you
mentioned are included and explained in proper MAD study. Keep
in mind there are at least four distinct groups within MAD -
Acts 2, Acts9, Acts 13, Acts 28 and Hybrid Acts 9/28. I'm still
making sense of it all in the MAD community.[/font]
[/quote]
[color=yellow]WHY four distinct groups, instead of ONE. sounds
like Hyper-dispenationalism?
The Church (Body of Christ) began when the Apostles and the
others in that room received the Holy Spirit. This was the
beginning or the "Age of Grace" and will end with the Rapture
(removal) of the Church. All of the distinct Groups (except the
Hybrid Acts 9/28) are found within this main dispensation.
I do not believe in the Acts 9/28 Hybrid model as it can be
refuted quite easily.
Blade
#Post#: 733--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: patrick jane Date: September 4, 2018, 2:56 am
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg732#msg732
date=1536033287]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg730#msg730
date=1536029556]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg728#msg728
date=1536027700]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg726#msg726
date=1536019853]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=86.msg723#msg723
date=1536003669]
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but among the
gentile nations it had a completely different application, Paul
understood it but Peter didn't[/font]
[/quote][font=times new roman]I think you hit the nail on the
head. Peter and the 11 did not comprehend the words of Jesus
Christ in certain instances as also Peter admits the Paul's
epistles are hard to understand. That's what Acts 9 MADs
understand, one gospel 1 and 1 program. Look at these the views
in these charts in the link below.[/font]
HTML https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dispensational-timelines-acts-9-acts-28-acts-9-28-hybrid1.pdf
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://theologyforums.com/index.php
[glow=red,2,300]Youtube :
[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
[glow=red,2,300][color=white][glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300][co
lor=beige]Pinterest
:[/glow][/glow][/color][/glow][/color]
HTML https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google :
HTML https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
[color=limegreen]Linkedin :[/color]
HTML https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter :
HTML https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook :
HTML https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
[glow=red,2,300]Flat Earth Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php
[color=limegreen][color=purple]Bitchute :[/color][/color]
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xUZJpNWUz2T4/
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
[/quote]
It seems to me that the Mid-Acts disregards those 3000 Jews and
Gentiles that were saved that day in Acts 2. It also disregards
those Gentiles and Jews who were saved in Act 8. ??
These were all saved and received the HOLY SPIRIT through belief
and Faith in Jesus Christ not Water Baptism.
Blade
Blade
[/quote][font=comic sans ms]No, those "disregarded" items you
mentioned are included and explained in proper MAD study. Keep
in mind there are at least four distinct groups within MAD -
Acts 2, Acts9, Acts 13, Acts 28 and Hybrid Acts 9/28. I'm still
making sense of it all in the MAD community.[/font]
[/quote]
[color=yellow]WHY four distinct groups, instead of ONE. sounds
like Hyper-dispenationalism?
The Church (Body of Christ) began when the Apostles and the
others in that room received the Holy Spirit. This was the
beginning or the "Age of Grace" and will end with the Rapture
(removal) of the Church. All of the distinct Groups (except the
Hybrid Acts 9/28) are found within this main dispensation.
I do not believe in the Acts 9/28 Hybrid model as it can be
refuted quite easily.
Blade
[/quote]I agree that the age of grace started in Acts 2 but the
BOC did not start in Acts 2 and neither was the mystery.
#Post#: 737--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: guest8 Date: September 4, 2018, 9:07 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg733#msg733
date=1536047784]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg732#msg732
date=1536033287]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg730#msg730
date=1536029556]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg728#msg728
date=1536027700]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg726#msg726
date=1536019853]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=86.msg723#msg723
date=1536003669]
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but among the
gentile nations it had a completely different application, Paul
understood it but Peter didn't[/font]
[/quote][font=times new roman]I think you hit the nail on the
head. Peter and the 11 did not comprehend the words of Jesus
Christ in certain instances as also Peter admits the Paul's
epistles are hard to understand. That's what Acts 9 MADs
understand, one gospel 1 and 1 program. Look at these the views
in these charts in the link below.[/font]
HTML https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dispensational-timelines-acts-9-acts-28-acts-9-28-hybrid1.pdf
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://theologyforums.com/index.php
[glow=red,2,300]Youtube :
[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
[glow=red,2,300][color=white][glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300][co
lor=beige]Pinterest
:[/glow][/glow][/color][/glow][/color]
HTML https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google :
HTML https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
[color=limegreen]Linkedin :[/color]
HTML https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter :
HTML https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook :
HTML https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
[glow=red,2,300]Flat Earth Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php
[color=limegreen][color=purple]Bitchute :[/color][/color]
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xUZJpNWUz2T4/
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
[/quote]
It seems to me that the Mid-Acts disregards those 3000 Jews and
Gentiles that were saved that day in Acts 2. It also disregards
those Gentiles and Jews who were saved in Act 8. ??
These were all saved and received the HOLY SPIRIT through belief
and Faith in Jesus Christ not Water Baptism.
Blade
Blade
[/quote][font=comic sans ms]No, those "disregarded" items you
mentioned are included and explained in proper MAD study. Keep
in mind there are at least four distinct groups within MAD -
Acts 2, Acts9, Acts 13, Acts 28 and Hybrid Acts 9/28. I'm still
making sense of it all in the MAD community.[/font]
[/quote]
[color=yellow]WHY four distinct groups, instead of ONE. sounds
like Hyper-dispenationalism?
The Church (Body of Christ) began when the Apostles and the
others in that room received the Holy Spirit. This was the
beginning or the "Age of Grace" and will end with the Rapture
(removal) of the Church. All of the distinct Groups (except the
Hybrid Acts 9/28) are found within this main dispensation.
I do not believe in the Acts 9/28 Hybrid model as it can be
refuted quite easily.
Blade
[/quote]I agree that the age of grace started in Acts 2 but the
BOC did not start in Acts 2 and neither was the mystery.
[/quote]
The Mystery is revealed in Eph 3:1-12..The Mystery was the
"Church" which was not known until this time. This does not mean
that it had not happened.
In EPH 3: 3a,5-6..[color=red]"How that by revelation He made
known unto me the mystery … Which in other ages was not made
known unto the sons of men, as the Spirit now reveals it unto
His holy apostles and prophets; That the Gentiles should be
fellow heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of His promise
in Christ by the gospel "
The mystery was not about the church but rather the revelation
(unveiling) that the Gentiles were included and would be fellow
Heirs, partakers of His promise in Christ by the gospel
Blade[/color]
#Post#: 743--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: patrick jane Date: September 5, 2018, 4:00 am
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg737#msg737
date=1536113237]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg733#msg733
date=1536047784]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg732#msg732
date=1536033287]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg730#msg730
date=1536029556]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=86.msg728#msg728
date=1536027700]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=86.msg726#msg726
date=1536019853]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=86.msg723#msg723
date=1536003669]
[font=georgia]This seems like a hairline difference between what
MAD teaches and how I see it but it opens up a chasm.
The Jews who reign with Christ on earth during the 1,000 years
are not the Jewish saints, whether OT or NT. They are the church
and will be in heaven with us.
The Jews who reign from Jerusalem and inherit the land are the
Jews now, the nation of Israel that now is, ethnic Israel.
We know a transformation must take place, what will that
transformation be? for the Mill seems to be a curious mix of law
and grace.
God speaking to Abe says "look to the stars, so shall your seed
be for number" then He says "if you can count the sand on the
sea-shore so can you count your seed
Two seeds...heavenly or spiritual, earthly or natural.
Jesus said "many shall come from the east and from the west and
sit at table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of
God" they are church with us, or us with them.
The REAL mystery hidden from past generations is not the church
per se but the church among the nations, this is what the Jews
could never understand in a million years, even though it was
told them clearly by Christ, they expected that the world would
come to Jerusalem to be taught the ways of the God of
Jacob...this is after all what the prophets said, and that will
be the case during the Mill.
So Paul's gospel is not different to Peter's but among the
gentile nations it had a completely different application, Paul
understood it but Peter didn't[/font]
[/quote][font=times new roman]I think you hit the nail on the
head. Peter and the 11 did not comprehend the words of Jesus
Christ in certain instances as also Peter admits the Paul's
epistles are hard to understand. That's what Acts 9 MADs
understand, one gospel 1 and 1 program. Look at these the views
in these charts in the link below.[/font]
HTML https://forwhatsaiththescriptures.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dispensational-timelines-acts-9-acts-28-acts-9-28-hybrid1.pdf
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://theologyforums.com/index.php
[glow=red,2,300]Youtube :
[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
[glow=red,2,300][color=white][glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300][co
lor=beige]Pinterest
:[/glow][/glow][/color][/glow][/color]
HTML https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google :
HTML https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
[color=limegreen]Linkedin :[/color]
HTML https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter :
HTML https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook :
HTML https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
[glow=red,2,300]Flat Earth Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php
[color=limegreen][color=purple]Bitchute :[/color][/color]
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xUZJpNWUz2T4/
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
[/quote]
It seems to me that the Mid-Acts disregards those 3000 Jews and
Gentiles that were saved that day in Acts 2. It also disregards
those Gentiles and Jews who were saved in Act 8. ??
These were all saved and received the HOLY SPIRIT through belief
and Faith in Jesus Christ not Water Baptism.
Blade
Blade
[/quote][font=comic sans ms]No, those "disregarded" items you
mentioned are included and explained in proper MAD study. Keep
in mind there are at least four distinct groups within MAD -
Acts 2, Acts9, Acts 13, Acts 28 and Hybrid Acts 9/28. I'm still
making sense of it all in the MAD community.[/font]
[/quote]
[color=yellow]WHY four distinct groups, instead of ONE. sounds
like Hyper-dispenationalism?
The Church (Body of Christ) began when the Apostles and the
others in that room received the Holy Spirit. This was the
beginning or the "Age of Grace" and will end with the Rapture
(removal) of the Church. All of the distinct Groups (except the
Hybrid Acts 9/28) are found within this main dispensation.
I do not believe in the Acts 9/28 Hybrid model as it can be
refuted quite easily.
Blade
[/quote]I agree that the age of grace started in Acts 2 but the
BOC did not start in Acts 2 and neither was the mystery.
[/quote]
The Mystery is revealed in Eph 3:1-12..The Mystery was the
"Church" which was not known until this time. This does not mean
that it had not happened.
In EPH 3: 3a,5-6..[color=red]"How that by revelation He made
known unto me the mystery … Which in other ages was not made
known unto the sons of men, as the Spirit now reveals it unto
His holy apostles and prophets; That the Gentiles should be
fellow heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of His promise
in Christ by the gospel "
The mystery was not about the church but rather the revelation
(unveiling) that the Gentiles were included and would be fellow
Heirs, partakers of His promise in Christ by the gospel
Blade[/color]
[/quote]Nearly two thousand years ago God revealed information
that was secret since the world began to the chief persecutor of
Christ and the twelve.
“Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of
God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from
generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:” – Col
1:25-26
Paul was saved by God’s grace and was chosen to make known the
preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of this
mystery.
“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my
gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the
revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world
began,” – Rom 16:25
This secret, albeit concerning the Lord Jesus Christ, stands in
contradistinction to the information that the twelve disciples
were preaching.
Peter in his message in Jerusalem after Pentecost spoke of Jesus
Christ according to prophecy “which God hath spoken by the mouth
of all his holy prophets since the world began” (Acts 3:21).
Peter taught things that were spoken by the prophets and Paul
taught things that were kept secret from the prophets.
It was kept secret from the prophets that Gentile salvation
would occur through Israel’s fall (Rom 11:25). Also kept secret
was the new body of believers that was being created which was
separate from the elect nation of Israel (Eph 3:6).
Nor was it prophesied that there would be free salvation apart
from the covenants and the law (Rom 3:21-22).
While the prophets spoke about a promised land given to a chosen
nation ruling in an earthly kingdom in Jerusalem, Paul spoke of
both Jews and Gentiles reigning in heavenly places judging
angels (Eph 2:6).
There are many blessings yet future that will fulfill the
writings of the law and the prophets including the coming
kingdom to Israel. Yet since the secret information was not
spoken by the prophets, we live in a period separate from the
subject of prophecy.
Instead of an age of law and prophecy, we live in the
dispensation of grace which had been hid in God from the
foundation of the world (Eph 3:9).
Though the verse clearly says it was secret since the world
began, many still try to search the prophets for clues about
what is happening now.
It’s time we continue what God started with Paul “to make all
men see what is the fellowship of the mystery” the secret since
the world began (Eph 3:9).
#Post#: 746--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Millennial Jews
By: patrick jane Date: September 5, 2018, 10:05 am
---------------------------------------------------------
EPIC! Daniel 7 Perfectly Describes What’s Coming!
We live in a time when the headlines coming out of the
advancement of science and tech resembles nothing less than the
crazy but colorful descriptions of end times events prophesied
in the Bible.
What many had dismissed as either gibberish, or at most,
allegorical and metaphorical language, are now potential
realities due to the unlocking of the human imagination with the
computer and internet.
These tools are pushing us ever so rapidly into creating,
building, and what some tech leaders call “summoning,” a race of
superintelligent AI. The impact of these superintelligent AI
will be Biblical in proportion. So much so, that Jesus says
unless He returns and intervenes, no flesh would be saved.
15 minutes
HTML https://youtu.be/XO7NoUufGE8?list=WL
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO7NoUufGE8&list=WL&t=0s&index=9
[glow=red,2,300]Theology Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://theologyforums.com/index.php
[glow=red,2,300]Youtube :
[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
[glow=red,2,300][color=white][glow=red,2,300][glow=red,2,300][co
lor=beige]Pinterest
:[/glow][/glow][/color][/glow][/color]
HTML https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google :
HTML https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
[color=limegreen]Linkedin :[/color]
HTML https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter :
HTML https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook :
HTML https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
[glow=red,2,300]Flat Earth Forums :[/glow]
HTML https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php
[color=limegreen][color=purple]Bitchute :[/color][/color]
HTML https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xUZJpNWUz2T4/
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus
Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7
KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -
*****************************************************
DIR Next Page