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Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
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Answers #26 | Does Trauma Cause Homosexuality?
There's no scientific evidence that anyone is born gay but
there is a lot of evidence that homosexuality is linked to
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: patrick jane Date: September 3, 2018, 10:37 am
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: patrick jane Date: September 3, 2018, 10:44 am
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: guest8 Date: September 3, 2018, 9:06 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=85.msg721#msg721
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It appears that JOE is telling us that scripturally,
Homosexuality is a sin but then in the next sentence he tells us
it is the same as his sins. Thus as a Christian, (sins are
forgiven) including Homosexuality.
I have a problem with that. If a Homosexual repent and turns
away from this sin and finds Jesus, OK.... However, it going to
be hard to live in 24 hour sin and be a true Christian. I do not
believe in Carnal Chrisitans. In a OSAS scenario, homosexuality
could not be part of ones life.
Joe also touched on Marriage of Homosexuals and it seems He is
OK with it. WOW....We were designed to be one man and one
woman. Marriage is where one Man and One Woman become ONE!.
To me this is 'Sticking it to GOD' and placing Man's
sovereignty over that of GOD's.
Think of it this way for all of you that think this way. GOD
did not destroy Sodom because of Homosexuality itself but
because EVERY MAN in the town condoned it. I live with 9it
around me because I cannot go anywhere it is not. As far as
condoning it, I DO NOT!
Blade
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: patrick jane Date: September 3, 2018, 10:01 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=85.msg727#msg727
date=1536026760]
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It appears that JOE is telling us that scripturally,
Homosexuality is a sin but then in the next sentence he tells us
it is the same as his sins. Thus as a Christian, (sins are
forgiven) including Homosexuality.
I have a problem with that. If a Homosexual repent and turns
away from this sin and finds Jesus, OK.... However, it going to
be hard to live in 24 hour sin and be a true Christian. I do not
believe in Carnal Chrisitans. In a OSAS scenario, homosexuality
could not be part of ones life.
Joe also touched on Marriage of Homosexuals and it seems He is
OK with it. WOW....We were designed to be one man and one
woman. Marriage is where one Man and One Woman become ONE!.
To me this is 'Sticking it to GOD' and placing Man's
sovereignty over that of GOD's.
Think of it this way for all of you that think this way. GOD
did not destroy Sodom because of Homosexuality itself but
because EVERY MAN in the town condoned it. I live with 9it
around me because I cannot go anywhere it is not. As far as
condoning it, I DO NOT!
Blade
[/quote][font=times new roman]I'm with you 100% on this.
Homosexuality is an abomination as far as I'm concerned. You may
like the other two short videos "What the Bible says about" -
Very good study in those vids. The use of Homosexual in the
Bible and what the word originally means, as well as the word
"unnatural".
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: guest5 Date: September 5, 2018, 3:15 pm
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If it’s a choice and it’s described as a sin, then yeah it’s a
sin. I definitely agree that it is not this gigantic
unforgivable salvation threatening sin. One of those videos
seemed to imply that homosexuality may be a sort of “side
effect” of trauma and abuse, if you go that route you’ve got to
bring psychology into the discussion in a larger capacity than
just a passing mention, we would have to look into
obsession/compulsion, cognitive function, any disorders that
would get lumped into a similar category, maybe even a few more
relevant things within that field of study.
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: guest5 Date: September 5, 2018, 5:56 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=85.msg727#msg727
date=1536026760]
It appears that JOE is telling us that scripturally,
Homosexuality is a sin but then in the next sentence he tells us
it is the same as his sins. Thus as a Christian, (sins are
forgiven) including Homosexuality.
I have a problem with that. If a Homosexual repent and turns
away from this sin and finds Jesus, OK.... However, it going to
be hard to live in 24 hour sin and be a true Christian. I do not
believe in Carnal Chrisitans. In a OSAS scenario, homosexuality
could not be part of ones life.
Joe also touched on Marriage of Homosexuals and it seems He is
OK with it. WOW....We were designed to be one man and one
woman. Marriage is where one Man and One Woman become ONE!.
To me this is 'Sticking it to GOD' and placing Man's
sovereignty over that of GOD's.
Think of it this way for all of you that think this way. GOD
did not destroy Sodom because of Homosexuality itself but
because EVERY MAN in the town condoned it. I live with 9it
around me because I cannot go anywhere it is not. As far as
condoning it, I DO NOT!
Blade
[/quote]
I’m not sure I agree with homosexuality as being a thing that is
all encompassing in a persons existence. I’m not consciously
checking up on my own heterosexuality all day. I’m not thinking
about or engaging in sex all of the time. I think the homosexual
thoughts and actions are what do it as far as sinning goes,
unless you hold a belief that gay people will always be gay and
it is outside of their control.
I’m no advocate for gay marriage, I believe a religious leader
has the right to turn away people who are gay and want to be
officiated by them. If it is legal for them to be married in
whatever state they live in, federal and state employees are
required to grant them the request if they qualify and should
not let bias impede their duty. If you cannot carry out your job
because of religious convictions, then state and federal
agencies are not the best place to work for you. In those
places, the law of the land is what you are hired to carry out,
even when it contradicts the law of God. God wins out over state
and country to me.
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: guest8 Date: September 5, 2018, 8:54 pm
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[quote author=Jon Wood link=topic=85.msg749#msg749
date=1536188207]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=85.msg727#msg727
date=1536026760]
It appears that JOE is telling us that scripturally,
Homosexuality is a sin but then in the next sentence he tells us
it is the same as his sins. Thus as a Christian, (sins are
forgiven) including Homosexuality.
I have a problem with that. If a Homosexual repent and turns
away from this sin and finds Jesus, OK.... However, it going to
be hard to live in 24 hour sin and be a true Christian. I do not
believe in Carnal Chrisitans. In a OSAS scenario, homosexuality
could not be part of ones life.
Joe also touched on Marriage of Homosexuals and it seems He is
OK with it. WOW....We were designed to be one man and one
woman. Marriage is where one Man and One Woman become ONE!.
To me this is 'Sticking it to GOD' and placing Man's
sovereignty over that of GOD's.
Think of it this way for all of you that think this way. GOD
did not destroy Sodom because of Homosexuality itself but
because EVERY MAN in the town condoned it. I live with 9it
around me because I cannot go anywhere it is not. As far as
condoning it, I DO NOT!
Blade
[/quote]
I’m not sure I agree with homosexuality as being a thing that is
all encompassing in a persons existence. I’m not consciously
checking up on my own heterosexuality all day. I’m not thinking
about or engaging in sex all of the time. I think the homosexual
thoughts and actions are what do it as far as sinning goes,
unless you hold a belief that gay people will always be gay and
it is outside of their control.
I’m no advocate for gay marriage, I believe a religious leader
has the right to turn away people who are gay and want to be
officiated by them. If it is legal for them to be married in
whatever state they live in, federal and state employees are
required to grant them the request if they qualify and should
not let bias impede their duty. If you cannot carry out your job
because of religious convictions, then state and federal
agencies are not the best place to work for you. In those
places, the law of the land is what you are hired to carry out,
even when it contradicts the law of God. God wins out over state
and country to me.
[/quote]
You said:"unless you hold a belief that gay people will always
be gay and it is outside of their control."
Jon, in answer to your question above, I do not KNOW?
What I believe is GOD's WORD (KJV) and Mankinds Medical Science.
With Science there is no proof whatsoever including DNA that
would legitimize Homosexuality.
God's WORD is sovereign above all else. I think you already know
the verses that are associated with this behavior.
Here is an article I found... (ex-GAY)
HTML http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1224/print/
I do know that you are taking a terrible chance. For everyone
has a Rapture date(death). After that time has passed, no
further choices can be made. It will be too late and what if you
and your assumptions are wrong?
Blade
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: guest5 Date: September 5, 2018, 11:51 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=85.msg750#msg750
date=1536198885]
You said:"unless you hold a belief that gay people will always
be gay and it is outside of their control."
Jon, in answer to your question above, I do not KNOW?
What I believe is GOD's WORD (KJV) and Mankinds Medical Science.
With Science there is no proof whatsoever including DNA that
would legitimize Homosexuality.
God's WORD is sovereign above all else. I think you already know
the verses that are associated with this behavior.
Here is an article I found... (ex-GAY)
HTML http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1224/print/
I do know that you are taking a terrible chance. For everyone
has a Rapture date(death). After that time has passed, no
further choices can be made. It will be too late and what if you
and your assumptions are wrong?
Blade
[/quote]
I’m quicker than a good many people to admit the possibility
that I could be wrong about something. I may not have come off
as clearly as I intended (i’m Not always the clearest speaker),
but I was sure that I stated my belief that homosexuality is a
choice and a sin. I believe it carries the same repercussions in
a Christians life as any other sin.
I’m unsure what chance I am taking, if I speak with a homosexual
on the subject I will make it abundantly clear to them that God
has the only authority on the matter and that to look for all
answers within Him and His will, just like everybody else. I
appreciate your concerns, and I will tell you that I am aware
that nothing is negotiable with God. I am well aware that a
salvific error means my condemnation if I will not accept the
truth. I’ve accepted the possibility of condemnation, I have
acknowledged to the Lord that I may misunderstand something that
is salvific and that I will raise no fuss with God about the
outcome. I don’t worry about my salvation, I make sure that
people know how to find theirs.
#Post#: 764--------------------------------------------------
Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
By: guest8 Date: September 6, 2018, 6:18 pm
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[quote author=Jon Wood link=topic=85.msg754#msg754
date=1536209468]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=85.msg750#msg750
date=1536198885]
You said:"unless you hold a belief that gay people will always
be gay and it is outside of their control."
Jon, in answer to your question above, I do not KNOW?
What I believe is GOD's WORD (KJV) and Mankinds Medical Science.
With Science there is no proof whatsoever including DNA that
would legitimize Homosexuality.
God's WORD is sovereign above all else. I think you already know
the verses that are associated with this behavior.
Here is an article I found... (ex-GAY)
HTML http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1224/print/
I do know that you are taking a terrible chance. For everyone
has a Rapture date(death). After that time has passed, no
further choices can be made. It will be too late and what if you
and your assumptions are wrong?
Blade
[/quote]
I’m quicker than a good many people to admit the possibility
that I could be wrong about something. I may not have come off
as clearly as I intended (i’m Not always the clearest speaker),
but I was sure that I stated my belief that homosexuality is a
choice and a sin. I believe it carries the same repercussions in
a Christians life as any other sin.
I’m unsure what chance I am taking, if I speak with a homosexual
on the subject I will make it abundantly clear to them that God
has the only authority on the matter and that to look for all
answers within Him and His will, just like everybody else. I
appreciate your concerns, and I will tell you that I am aware
that nothing is negotiable with God. I am well aware that a
salvific error means my condemnation if I will not accept the
truth. I’ve accepted the possibility of condemnation, I have
acknowledged to the Lord that I may misunderstand something that
is salvific and that I will raise no fuss with God about the
outcome. I don’t worry about my salvation, I make sure that
people know how to find theirs.
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Now this is out of the way, we can continue to debate other
pressing agendas of the Bible.
Blade
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