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The Trinity: 2.0
By: guest8 Date: March 13, 2020, 12:35 am
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As always I urge you not believe a think I say but be a good
Berean and find out for yourself in Acts 17:11......For GOD in
Pro 25:2..(KJV).."It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but
the honour of kings is to search out a matter."
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Throughout history, there has been a movement within churches
and denominations that deny the GodHead as a Trinity (all the
essence in one GOD and three in person). Although the Bible does
not have the word "trinity" within it pages, it does through
scripture tell us the 'Father', 'Son' and 'Holy Spirit' are one
GOD numerous times!
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Gen
1:1). One GOD (plural in form--'Elohiym ) or Gods ('Elohiym )
appears with singular verb form ('Created') .
'Elohiym appears 680 times throughout the Bible as a plural
form. Notice the plural pronouns ("us"; "our") that are
accompanying the follow scritpures.
Gen 1:26.."And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness:.."
Gen 3:22 .."And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as
one of us,.."
Gen 11:7 .."Go to, let us go down,..."
Isa 6:8.. "Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom
shall I send, and who will go for us?"
The plurality of GOD is spelled out for everyone to see in the
New Testament.
Mat 28:19.."Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy
Ghost:"
Cor 13:14.."The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of
God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen"
John 14:17.."Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot
receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
Exchanges among the GodHead.
Gen 3:22.."And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as
one of us,.."
Gen 11:7.."Go to, let us go down, and there confound their
language,..."
Isa 6:8.."Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall
I send, and who will go for us?.."
Isa 48:12.."Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am
he; I am the first, I also am the last."
Isa 48:13.."Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the
earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call
unto them, they stand up together."
Isa 48:16.."... I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and
his Spirit, hath sent me."
Ps 2:7.."I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me,
Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee."
Ps 45:7.."Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness:
therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of
gladness above thy fellows."
ps 110:1.."....The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right
hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
Mat 11:27.."All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and
no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man
the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will
reveal him."
John 8:42.."Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye
would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither
came I of myself, but he sent me."
Joh 17:24.."Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given
me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which
thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of
the world."
In the Old Testament we see the singularity of GOD:
Deu 6:4 .."Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:..."
and
Exo 20:2..."I am the LORD thy God," is declared yet, the Hebrew
plural form of "'elohiym" is present in all.
We see the Monotheism (belief of a singular GOD) in these
scriptures.
Deu 30:16.."In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy
God,..."
Rom 3:30.."Seeing it is one God,...".
John 6:27.."....which the Son of man shall give unto you: for
him hath God the Father sealed."
John 20:28.."And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and
my God."
Rom 9:5.."Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the
flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."
2 Peter 1:1.."....through the righteousness of God and our
Saviour Jesus Christ:"
Acts 5:3-5.."....why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the
Holy Ghost, .....v4. ....thou hast not lied unto men, but unto
God. v5.And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up
the ghost: ......"
John 1:16-17 .."And of his fulness have all we received, and
grace for grace. v7.For the law was given by Moses, but grace
and truth came by Jesus Christ.
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In the following scriptures are various events that will show
the Trinity in work. These are by no means an exhaustive catalog
of all the scriptures but rather a few to help in the search for
truth.(1)
Creation of the Universe
Father : Psalm 102:25.."Of old hast thou laid the foundation of
the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands."
Son: Col 1:14,16.."In whom we have redemption through his blood,
even the forgiveness of sins: v16..For by him were all things
created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and
invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or
principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and
for him:"
Son: John 1:1-3.."In the beginning was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and the Word was God. v2..The same was in the
beginning with God. v3..All things were made by him; and without
him was not any thing made that was made."
Holy Spirit: Gen 1:2.."And the earth was without form, and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of
God moved upon the face of the waters."
Holy Spirit: Job 26:13.."By his spirit he hath garnished the
heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent"
Father, Son, The Holy Spirit: Gen 1:1.."In the beginning God
[color=blue]('elohiym ) created the heaven and the earth."
[/color](emphasis added)
Creation Of Man
Father: Gen 2:7 .."And the LORD God formed man of the dust of
the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul."
Son: Col 1:16.."For by him were all things created, that are in
heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether
they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all
things were created by him, and for him:"
Spirit: Job 33:4.."The Spirit of God hath made me, and the
breath of the Almighty hath given me life."
Plurals: Ecc 12:1.."Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy
youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh,
when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;"
Plurals: Isa 54:5.."For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of
hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of
Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called."
I AM
"I Am" is used 742 times in the Authorized King James Edition.
These two words inform us actually who GOD is.....In the early
days of the Exodus, God meet Moses at the burning bush on Mt.
Sinai. In Exo 3:14, we find one of the names of GOD is "I
AM"....Then in later scripture, John 8:58, Jesus tells us He is
"I AM"
Exo 3:14.."And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent
me unto you."
John 8:58.."Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto
you, Before Abraham was, I am."
The Incarnation
Father: Hebrews 10:5.."Wherefore when he cometh into the world,
he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body
hast thou prepared me:"
Son: Phil 2:7.."But made himself of no reputation, and took upon
him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"
Spirit: Luke 1:35.."And the angel answered and said unto her,
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the
Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing
which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."
The Death of Christ
Father: Psalm 22:15,,"My strength is dried up like a potsherd;
and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into
the dust of death."
Father: Romans 8:32.."He that spared not his own Son, but
delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also
freely give us all things?"
Father: John 10:18.."No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down
of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take
it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."
Son: (John 10,18), Galations 2:20.."I am crucified with Christ:
nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the
life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the
Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."
Spirit: Hebrews 9:14.."How much more shall the blood of Christ,
who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to
God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living
God?"
The Resurrection of Christ
Father: Acts 2:24.."Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the
pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be
holden of it."
Father: Romans 6:4.." Therefore we are buried with him by
baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the
dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in
newness of life."
Son: John 10:17-18.."Therefore doth my Father love me, because I
lay down my life, that I might take it again. v18..No man
taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to
lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment
have I received of my Father."
Son: John 2:19.."Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this
temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
Holy Spirit: 1 Peter 3;18.."For Christ also hath once suffered
for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to
God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the
Spirit:"
Holy Spirit: Romans 8:11.."But if the Spirit of him that raised
up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ
from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his
Spirit that dwelleth in you."
The Resurrection of All Mankind
Father: John 5:21.."For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and
quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will."
Son: John 5:21.."For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and
quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will."
Holy Spirit: Romans 8:11.."But if the Spirit of him that raised
up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ
from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his
Spirit that dwelleth in you."
The Inspiration of the Scriptures
Father: 2 Timothy 3:16.."All scripture is given by inspiration
of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
Son: 1 Peter 1:10-11.."Of which salvation the prophets have
enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace
that should come unto you:"
Spirit: 2 Peter 1:21.."For the prophecy came not in old time by
the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by
the Holy Ghost."
Doubting Thomas
After the resurrection of Jesus, Thomas did not believe it would
be his Jesus. In the Gospel of John we find in chapter 20, that
Jesus puts the doubts of Thomas to rest. In the end, Thomas
calls Jesus.."My Lord and my God". There is little doubt here as
to who Jesus is for Thomas would have been committing Idolatry
if this was NOT the GOD who said in Exo 20:3.."Thou shalt have
no other gods before me."
John 20:26.."And after eight days again his disciples were
within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being
shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you."
John 20:27.."Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger,
and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it
into my side: and be not faithless, but believing."
John 20:28.."And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and
my God." Here Thomas call Jesus, his Lord and GOD! Jesus is GOD.
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In Asaph’s Psalm 2, there is a dialog between the Father, the
Son and the Holy Spirit, the Trinity
1st Paragraph
Psa 2:1 ..Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain
thing?
Psa 2:2 ..The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers
take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his
anointed, saying,
Psa 2:3..Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their
cords from us.
* Speaking is either God (the Father) who is speaking in the
third person or the Holy Spirit *
2nd Paragraph
Psa 2:4 ..He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord
shall have them in derision.
Psa 2:5 ..Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex
them in his sore displeasure.
Psa 2:6 .. Yet have I set my king [color=blue](Jesus Christ)
upon my holy hill of Zion. (emphasis added)[/color]
*The one speaking here is Jesus Christ as seen in Psa
2:6.
3rd Paragraph
Psa 2:7 ..I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me,
Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (Jesus Christ is
speaking here)
Psa 2:8..Ask of me,[color=blue](God the Father speaking here)
and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the
uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. [/color]
(emphasis added)
Psa 2:9 ..Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt
dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
*Speaking here is Jesus Christ and God (the Father)..as we see
in Psa 2: 7-8 *
4th Paragraph
Psa 2:10 ..Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye
judges of the earth.
Psa 2:11 ..Serve the LORD [color=blue](God, the Father) with
fear, and rejoice with trembling.[/color] (emphasis added)
Psa 2:12..Kiss the Son[color=blue] (Jesus Christ) , lest he be
angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but
a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in
him.[/color] (emphasis added)
*The one speaking here is the Holy Spirit…..as seen both are
spoken of in Psa 2:11-12*
Commentary:
Psalm 2 not only shows the Trinity having a conversation between
themselves but Psalm 2 brings forth:
1. a prophecy about the Battle of Armageddon that will come at
the time of the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ!
2. shows the infinite awesome absolute power and sovereignty of
GOD!
3. the mystery of Grace through Jesus Christ! (from the OT)
1st Paragraph
In Psa 2:1,,,the people of the earth are rising up against
GOD...We see that GOD upon high is seeing this as it is
happening in the distant future. Why do the heathen rage, and
the people imagine a vain thing? A vain thing? Yes, GOD is
looking at the stupidity and arrogance of thinking that they can
challenge HIM in battle when all HE had to do in creating the
earth and all it’s inhabitants was speak “Let there BE”.
I find it incomprehensible that man would consider such a move,
even with the backing of Satan. Yet, It was tried before when
the Tower of Babel was being built. The main theme at that time
was to overtake GOD’s place in Heaven. At this time, God uses
the same words He used here in Psa 2:3..”LET US” confound the
single language of the day into 70 different languages and
spread the people over the earth.
The Battle of Armageddon is shown to us in Rev 19 and is at the
very least a grand failure on the part of mankind. With the
WORD of GOD (Jesus Christ) riding a white Horse, A spoken word
is all that will be needed to end this charade.
2nd Paragraph
We actually find God is laughing at those who would contemplate
such a thing. (Psa 2:4-5.) His Wrath will consume all of them.
Yet, He sends His KING (Jesus Christ) to sit upon the throne of
David on the Holy hill of Zion. This last verse also speaks to
the very physical 1000 years as HE said “I set my king (Jesus
Christ) upon my holy hill of Zion.” This is not a spiritual
event
3rd Paragraph
We find Jesus Christ speaking about what His father has said to
him in verse 7 and GOD (the Father) telling Jesus, “Ask of me”
and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the
uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. God (the
father) continues to instruct Jesus to rule (the millennium)
with an iron rod in Psa 2:8
4th Paragraph
Here we find the Holy Spirit asking the kings of the earth to
serve the Lord (God the Father) or be destroyed, then tells them
and “us” that those who put their faith in HIM (the Son, Jesus
Christ) will be blessed. As we can see here in the OT, in a
Psalm of Asaph, the mystery of GRACE through Jesus Christ is
alive and well.
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*The Authorized King James Edition (1611, 1769) was used
exclusively as other versions are somewhat different depending
upon the year of their printing.
*All verses in the Bible are: “All scripture is given by
inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof,
for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” (2 Tim 3:16)
(Note: we have placed all scripture in RED for your convenience)
*Thus God is considered the author of all 66 books through 40
writers including those Words of Psalm 2.
**We welcome your comments and questions..Please keep them
precise and clean.
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which
I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to
the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again
the third day according to the scriptures:"
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Sources:
1. Authorized King James Edition, Old and New Testaments
2.. Koinonia House: One God or Three? The Trinity: Chuck
Missler
3. Ligonier Ministries, R. C. Sproul
4. Grace to You, John MacArthur
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