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       Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
       By: Firestarter Date: April 8, 2020, 10:33 am
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       About 2,275 years BC, Nimrod the great grandson of Noah lived
       (the grandson of Ham). According to scripture he was “[I]the
       mighty hunter[/I]”; but Nimrod hunted for humans to sacrifice
       them in the Moloch ritual.
       According to the book of Jasher (Yashar), the priests of Ba’al
       counseled Nimrod to marry his own mother Semiramis; to acquire
       the “[I]third eye[/I]” or “[I]all-seeing eye of Lucifer[/I]”.
       Nimrod’s mother and wife, Semiramis, has been worshiped as
       “[I]The Queen of Heaven[/I]” all over the world ever since.
       Semiramis and her son/husband, Nimrod started this occult
       religion that included sacrificing babies in the Moloch ritual.
       They sacrificed babies in the temple at the Winter Solstice
       (December 21st -25th) and also at “[I]Easter ‘Sun’ Day[/I]” at
       the Spring or Vernal Equinox (March 21st -25th).
       Nimrod also had the Tower of Babel erected.
       Every year on 15 March and 25 December, there would be wild
       drunken orgies where virgins were impregnated by the pagan
       priests. From 25 March to 25  December counts 9 months, just in
       time to sacrifice the new-borns on the altar in the Moloch
       ritual on 25 December.
       When the son of Noah, Shem, heard about these human sacrifices,
       he sent out a bounty hunt to kill Nimrod. According to the book
       of Jasher (Yashar) it was Esau (the twin brother of Jacob) who
       actually killed Nimrod. Nimrod´s body was cut in pieces and
       scattered over the kingdom. Semiramis had all of the parts
       gathered, except for the penis that couldn´t be found and
       couldn´t resurrect him.
       Semiramis decided to memorialize his penis by erecting an
       “obelisk”. These obelisks can be found all over the world, for
       example in Washington DC on St. Peter’s Square in front of the
       Vatican and in the City of London.
       See for example the giant phallus symbol on the Dam in my home
       town of Amsterdam (with the Beehive, Bijenkorf in the
       background).
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       The Babylonian story of Nimrod and Semiramis is basically
       identical to Osiris and Isis of Egypt, where Isis reconstructed
       Osiris’ body after it had been cut up into pieces by their evil
       brother Set (Satan), but couldn´t find his penis. Isis then had
       a son by Osiris named Horus.
       Semiramis consulted the pagan priests and astrologers who told
       her that the sun “dies” on 21 December but comes back to life
       again on the eve of 24 December. Semiramis created a myth for
       the Babylonians that Nimrod dies each year on 21 December but 3
       days and 3 nights later, on 25 December, is “born-again” as the
       the Sun-god, Ba’al.
       Queen Semiramis also proclaimed that Baal was present on earth
       in the form of a flame, whether candle or lamp, to be
       worshipped.
       Semiramis ordered the Babylonians to go into the groves (forest)
       and place a gift under the tree to honor Nimrod who was “cut
       down” like a tree (Isaiah 14:12-19). She also ordered them to
       cut down a tree, place it into their homes and decorate it with
       silver and gold balls to symbolize Nimrod’s testicles (Jeremiah
       10:3-4).
       Semiramis also declared herself the goddess of the moon and sky
       and said that her son/husband Nimrod had impregnated her with
       the “[I]rays of the sun[/I]” (on 25 March); so on 25 December
       (!) another son Tammuz is born (Ezekiel 8:14).
       I think that a strong case can be made that Christmas and
       Easter-Egg trees are really “Asherah Poles” for honouring Ba’al!
       Decorating these trees with little balls and coloured eggs, just
       like the ancient Babylonians, who set them up right next to
       their altars. Did you know that the little balls on these trees
       represent Nimrod’s testicles?
       According to Strong’s Concordance #H842 Asherah: groves (for
       idol worship); a Babylonian (Astarte)-Canaanite goddess (of
       fortune and happiness), the supposed consort of Baal, her
       images; the goddess, goddesses; her images; sacred trees or
       poles set up near an altar.
       The “bowed crucifix” is an allusion to Nimrod’s bow and it is
       meant to point to the rider on the white horse in Revelation
       6:2.
       It is claimed that the name “Semiramis” was adopted into other
       cultures as: Isis, Diana, Astarte, Ishtar, Aphrodite, Venus,
       Easter and also as the “Virgin Mary”.
       Her son and husband “Nimrod” (reincarnated as Tammuz) also
       became known as: Horus, Apollo, Sol, Krishna, Hercules, Mithra,
       amongst others.
       Before the city was called “Rome” it was known as Saturnalia
       (the city of Saturn). In the Chaldean mysteries, the Babylonian
       dictator Nimrod was deified as Saturn. His birthday was
       celebrated on 25 December, Saturnalia. In Chaldee, Saturn is
       spelled as “STUR” which totals 666.
       Semiramis was also called “Venus” in Rome, and had the day of
       the week “Venerdi” (Friday) named after her.
       Constantine simply recycled the pagan statues, naming them after
       “Christian” saints. The statues of the Neptune for example was
       renamed “Saint Peter”, the statue of Venus was re-named the
       “Virgin Mary” and the statue of Sol (Mithra) was renamed “Jesus
       Christ”.
       Roman Emperor Constantine also had depictions of the original
       “Queen of Heaven” Semiramis holding her baby son Tammuz renamed
       as “Mary and Baby Jesus”. Is Isis “Queen of Heaven” holding her
       baby Horus the origins of “Mary and Baby Jesus”?
       Note the horns on Isis’ head for the “horned god” Lucifer and
       the “disk” within the horns symbolising the sun.
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       When Tammuz was forty years old, he was killed by a wild boar.
       His mother Semiramis started a Babylonian ritual called “Forty
       Days of Weeping for Tammuz” where people had to fast and pray.
       The Roman Catholic Church recycled this custom as 40 days of
       fasting leading up to Easter Sunday. Catholics begin these 40
       days with “Ash Wednesday”.
       Like in ancient Babylon, priests (of Ba’al) take ashes and place
       the “mark” of the cross on the foreheads of the faithfull with a
       declaration that we were “[I]created from ashes and to ashes we
       shall return[/I]”.
       The French made a colossus of Jezebel, it now stands in New York
       Harbor, facing “East”, referring to the name Ishtar or Easter,
       and is called the “Statue of Liberty”! The French Illuminati
       donated this statue to the US to bring it under the influence of
       Jezebel.
       The Babylonian name for Semiramis is “Ishtar” from which the
       “Easter” comes.
       The Romans first called her Astarte but later called Venus, and
       the Phoenicians called her Asherah. The Hebrews called her
       Astoroth, the consort of Ba’al. Her emblem is the flower of the
       lily. This explains why people buy lilies during Easter and
       women don corsages of lilies and orchids to church on Easter
       Sunday.
       See the Fleur de lys in the coat of arms of the House of
       Plantagenet.
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       At the first Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, Roman Emperor
       Constantine formed the first “Ecumenical Council” of the
       Catholic Church. Later new creeds were drafted. One of them
       included: [quote]I accept all customs, rites, legalism, and
       feasts of the Romans, sacrifices. Prayers, purifications with
       water, sanctifications by Pontificus Maxmus (high priests of
       Rome), propitiations, and feasts, and the New Sabbath “Sol dei”
       (day of the Sun), all new chants and observances, and all the
       foods and drinks of the Romans (Pork and all unclean foods). In
       other words, I absolutely accept everything Roman, every new
       law, rite and custom, of Rome, and the New Roman
       Religion.[/QUOTE]
       Later, in approximately 365 AD, the Imperial Church of Rome
       wrote in one of their canons: [quote]Christians must not Judaize
       by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day. Rather,
       honoring the Lord’s Day (Ba’al’s Day) which is “Sun-day” for Sol
       Invictus (the invincible sun). But if any shall be found to be
       Judaizers, let them be anathema (against) Christ.[/quote]
       In Greek, the word “Catholic” means “universal”; does this mean
       that it was always intended for this religion to become the “One
       World Religion”?
       In June 2000, the New World Order named the Roman Catholic
       Church the “Mother” of the “One World Church” and Pope John Paul
       II was elected as the “leader” of the “United Religions”:
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       Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
       By: patrick jane Date: January 13, 2021, 10:53 am
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       Will Churches be Back to Normal by Easter, Summer, or Fall?
       Vital Information for Churches and Christian Leaders
       A brief overview of Ed Stetzer's interview with Dr. Francis
       Collins, Director of the National Institutes of Health
       Ed Stetzer: [Church leaders] are asking questions about when we
       might be back together. Help us understand the timeline a bit
       more, knowing thing might not go the way that we expect.
       Dr. Francis Collins: I’ve been working from home for almost a
       year and I expect I’m going to be in my home office for a few
       more months. Here we are at the beginning of 2021, and this
       pandemic across our country is the worst it’s been, with 3,000
       people or more losing their lives every day.
       The bright spot, of course, is the development of vaccines. We
       do now have two such vaccines that are carefully reviewed, shown
       to be safe and effective by rigorous means, and authorized by
       the FDA for emergency use. We’re doing everything we can to get
       those dosages into people’s arms because that is how we are
       going to get past this.
       I know people may have mixed feelings about the vaccine. For me,
       as a scientist, it feels to me that God gave us the skills to be
       able to understand how these things work, to identify this
       pathogen, and to (in record time) be able to come up with the
       vaccine, which has 95% efficacy. They’re actually a lot better
       than most of us dreamed we would have at the present time. So
       this is a gift from God, and a gift we all need to embrace to
       get past this.
       To be able to immunize 300 million people is not something that
       can be done in less than a few months. I do think, by June or
       thereabouts, we might be getting close to that point where
       80-85% of the country is immune. At that point, the virus has to
       start fading away, because there aren’t enough new people to
       infect.
       I don’t think that we’ll be able to bring churches together for
       an Easter celebration this year, though I would love if that
       were the case. It is going to take all of us to get there.
       I am concerned that people of faith, in some instances, seem
       reluctant to embrace this as a gift. If only half of Americans
       take this vaccine, we will not be past this any time soon. We
       have to get to the point where most of the population is immune,
       or we haven’t really ended things.
       Stetzer: What would you say to those who think this vaccine was
       rushed?
       Collins: We did move this more quickly than has ever happened.
       Partly this is because of new technologies that were developed
       in the last 25 years. Let me assure you, as a physician and
       scientist who has been in the middle of these vaccine
       developments for the past year, the only corners that have been
       cut were the bureaucratic ones.
       The science is as rigorous as anything we have ever done, in
       terms of vaccine development. The ultimate conclusion about
       safety and efficacy, which is in the public domain, is
       incredibly compelling. 30,000 people enrolled in these trials,
       and 95% efficacy showed up with no real evidence of any safety
       concerns. The data is there! So, ignore the conspiracy theories
       and look at the evidence. That is what we are all called to do.
       [Dr. Collins also addressed question about stem cell lines, the
       process, and conspiracy theories. Listen to the full interview
       here]
       Stetzer: You’ve said elsewhere that taking the vaccine is not
       something you do for your just yourself, but as a way to love
       other people. Can you tell us more about that?
       Collins: There are two primary ways.
       First, this virus is so hard to manage because you can carry it
       and spread it without even knowing. Vaccination is a way to
       reduce that risk.
       Second, on a larger scale, if we are all part of a community, we
       really need all of us engaged in the effort to generate herd
       immunity.
       We need everyone to succeed. This isn’t so different from
       putting on a seatbelt or not drinking and driving. We don’t want
       to make the vaccine a law, but it is a moral responsibility.
       Stetzer: What do you think the level of mitigation will be at by
       summer?
       Collins: I wish I could be more precise. Some of this depends on
       whether other vaccines get approved. There are six more being
       studied. The more that get approved, the quicker we can
       vaccinate.
       We also have to study whether or not the vaccine is safe and
       effective for children. There is still a lot of uncertainty.
       Don’t have your heart set on June, but by the fall we ought to
       be in a pretty good place. I don’t think it would be totally
       unrealistic to think that by June or July that we might be in a
       place to have a lot more public gatherings, including churches,
       but I can’t promise that.
       If 30% or 40% of Americans don’t take it, we don’t get out of
       this.
       Stetzer: When you say it’s going to be different in the fall,
       what will it look like?
       Collins: There is a big unanswered question.
       We are intensely investigating whether or not those who have
       received the vaccine can still spread the virus even if they
       don’t get sick. If the vaccine means they don’t get sick and
       they can’t convey the virus, mask wearing won’t be expected. If
       you can still spread the virus even after the vaccination,
       you’ll still have to wear a mask.
       I don’t think so, but we have to keep the option open.
       Stetzer: To close, give us a short vision on why Christians
       should be engaged with the vaccine, and should advocate for it.
       Collins: This is not the first plague that we’ve had to deal
       with. Christians have always had the courage to figure out how
       to help. We should do that now.
       We won’t help the situation if we don’t get the vaccine and
       continue to spread the virus or ignore protective measures.
       One of the ways we evangelize is through our actions. Are we
       creating a positive public witness? Are we a group people want
       to be a part of? Are we helping our neighbors? Are we reaching
       out to the lonely? Are we being a listening ear, virtually?
       Let’s focus on being a part of worldview that others want to be
       a part of. We can get through this, but we have to get through
       this together.
       Ed Stetzer is executive director of the Wheaton College Billy
       Graham Center, serves as a dean at Wheaton College, and
       publishes church leadership resources through Mission Group. The
       Exchange Team contributed to this article and has updated the
       article.
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       Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
       By: patrick jane Date: November 23, 2021, 8:01 pm
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       Bloodlines of the Chosen - ROBERT SEPEHR
       In Christianity during the medieval period lasting approximately
       from the 5th to the late 15th centuries, unicorns are often
       considered an allegory of Christ's journey. In the study of
       alchemy, the horn is the symbol for virility and sacred union.
       The powder ground from the unicorn’s horn was believed to be a
       powerful aphrodisiac and further reputed to purify polluted
       waters.
       13 minutes
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       Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
       By: patrick jane Date: February 6, 2022, 4:54 am
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       The Pagan Roots of Christmas
       What do decorated trees, Santa Claus, reindeer, mistletoe, and
       eggnog have do with the birth of Jesus? Nowhere in the Bible is
       Jesus’ birthday given as December 25th. However, the Romans did
       celebrate that date, not as the birthday of the Son of God, but
       as the birthday of their sun god. We’ll look at the pagan
       origins of common Christmas traditions. The Pagan Roots of
       Christmas.
       1 hour 35 minutes
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       Re: Sinterklaas - Odin
       By: Firestarter Date: December 5, 2024, 2:42 am
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       [quote author=Firestarter link=topic=804.msg11259#msg11259
       date=1585061545]It looks like the tale of Sinterklaas is mostly
       based on the Norse God Odin (the tale of Santa Claus changed his
       home to the North Pole). One of Odin's most popular titles is –
       Allfather.
       Odin had a long white beard (one eye) and sometimes visited
       earth, in disguise, in a cloak and broad-brimmed hat or
       hood.[/quote]
       Besides Santa Claus, there are some local European variations on
       the Sinterklaas, Saint Nicholas, Odin, Yule celebrations…
       In Austria, Bavaria and Tyrol, St Nicholas is accompanied by the
       demonic Krampus, who punishes “bad” children by taking them to
       his lair.
       Krampus was incorporated into the St Nicholas festivities in the
       17th century.
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       On 5 December, Krampus Night, young men dress up as hairy
       goat-like devils to terrify children.
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       See St Nicholas in the Alps mountains area accompanied by
       Krampus demons (instead of the “zwarte Piet” in the Netherlands,
       and “Oel” demons in Belgium).
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       In the small Dutch northern (Wadden) island of Ameland there is
       a secretive local ritual instead of Sinterklaas, called
       “Sunneklaas” (I didn’t even know about this…).
       On 5 December, journalists of PowNed tried to report on
       “Sunneklaas”, but were harassed by Ameland locals. They filed
       charges with the cops, and politicians said it’s terrible that
       these journalists were harassed (as they care so very much about
       “freedom of speech”).
       Apparently the Sunneklaas ritual involves some matchmaking for
       young adults that they claim was originally also part of the
       Sinterklaas festivities.
       The young men take over the streets, dressed up with masks.
       (in Dutch)
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       (in Dutch)
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       In other Wadden islands, a similar “Sunderklaas” ritual is
       celebrated, which involves dressing up, in Texel on 5 December
       (the normal day for Sinterklaas) and 12 December (the day of St
       Lucia, after “lux”, Latin for light).
       It has been argued that these rituals relate to Wodan (the
       Germanic name for Odin), Krampus and “sun” worshipping (in Dutch
       “zon”).
       In the North of Italy and Scandinavia there is an annual
       celebration for St Lucia on 13 December, with similarities to
       the Sinterklaas in the Netherlands and Belgium. Lucia is the
       patron saint of Venice and Syracuse: (in Dutch)
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