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#Post#: 10930--------------------------------------------------
The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
By: Firestarter Date: March 10, 2020, 10:44 am
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I´ve always found the story on the resurrection of Jesus Christ
after 3 days a strange tale.
[B]Celebration of the Spring equinox[/B]
In 325 AD, the sun-worshipping Roman Emperor Constantine the
Great convened the Council of Nicaea that determined that Easter
is on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the
March equinox.
This suggests that this celebration is really about celebrating
the Spring...
[B]Descend of Inanna (Ishtar)[/B]
According to some experts, the Easter story comes from the
Sumerian legend of Damuzi and his wife Inanna, described in
Sumerian clay tablets dated 2100 BC. The Babylonian names for
Damuzi and Inanna are Tammuz and Ishtar respectively.
When Tammuz dies, Ishtar is consumed by grief and follows him
down to the Underworld. In the underworld, her worldly attire is
removed, "Naked and bowed low" she is judged, killed, and then
hung on display. In her absence, the earth loses its fertility,
crops cease to grow and animals stop reproducing.
See a clay tablet showing the Descent of Inanna.
[IMG]
HTML https://archive.is/5eOsf/e4e048f9d4e8454697cd2dde21017398531e173d.jpg[/img]
After Inanna has been missing for 3 days her assistant asks the
other gods for help. Enki, him again, creates 2 creatures, who
go to the Underworld to sprinkle Inanna and Damuzi with the
plant and water of life, resurrecting them, so they can return
to earth as the light of the sun for six months.
After the six months are up, Tammuz returns to the Underworld of
the dead, again followed by Ishtar, forcing the water god to
rescue them both. This created the cycles of winter death and
spring life.
In ancient Egypt, an egg symbolised the sun, while for the
Babylonians, the egg represents the hatching of the Venus
Ishtar, who fell from heaven to the Euphrates.
[B]Ostara, Eostre[/B]
Some experts claim that Easter was originally a celebration of
Eostre, goddess of Spring and fertility, otherwise known as
Ostara, Austra, and Eastre. This could explain the Easter bunny
and possibly the Easter eggs.
The egg represents Spring, fertility and renewal.
According to Germanic mythology, Ostara healed a wounded bird
she found in the woods by changing it into a hare. Still
partially a bird, the hare showed its gratitude to the goddess
by laying eggs as gifts.
See the depiction of Ostara by Johannes Gehrts.
[IMG]
HTML https://archive.is/5eOsf/4aa70be318358d0a8e1a56a29b64ace0ea729276.jpg[/img]
[B]What’s in a name?[/B]
The name “Easter” could mean that it’s just another celebration
for the witches (magi) from the “East”.
Some say that “Easter” is a variation of the Babylonian name for
Inanna – “Ishtar”.
See he Babylonian Relief of the Goddess Ishtar.
[IMG]
HTML https://archive.is/ykUrE/9d22b660dc7069684605bf182cf51eb134ed1745[/img]
According to New Unger’s Bible Dictionary: “Easter” is of Saxon
origin, derived from “Eostre” a.k.a. “Eastra”, in whose honour
sacrifices were offered each year about Passover.
In Germany it is called “Ostern”.
Easter: in Bulgarian is called “Velikden” (Grand Day), in Polish
“Wielkanoc” (Grand Night), in Czech “Velikonoce” (Grand Nights)
and in Slovak “Velká Noc” (the Grand Night).
In Serbian “Uskrs” or “Vaskrs” (resurrection) and in Japanese
“Fukkatsu-sai” (resurrection festival).
In many European languages the name for “Easter” is derived from
the Greek word for the Hebrew Pesach (Passover) – “Pascha”.
“Easter” is called “Pasqua” in Italian, “Pascua” in Spanish,
“Paques” in French, and “Pasen” in Dutch:
HTML https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/ancient-pagan-origins-easter-001571
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HTML http://archive.is/5eOsf)
#Post#: 10937--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
By: guest8 Date: March 10, 2020, 7:47 pm
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[quote author=Firestarter link=topic=804.msg10930#msg10930
date=1583855047]
I´ve always found the story on the resurrection of Jesus Christ
after 3 days a strange tale.
[B]Celebration of the Spring equinox[/B]
In 325 AD, the sun-worshipping Roman Emperor Constantine the
Great convened the Council of Nicaea that determined that Easter
is on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the
March equinox.
This suggests that this celebration is really about celebrating
the Spring...
[B]Descend of Inanna (Ishtar)[/B]
According to some experts, the Easter story comes from the
Sumerian legend of Damuzi and his wife Inanna, described in
Sumerian clay tablets dated 2100 BC. The Babylonian names for
Damuzi and Inanna are Tammuz and Ishtar respectively.
When Tammuz dies, Ishtar is consumed by grief and follows him
down to the Underworld. In the underworld, her worldly attire is
removed, "Naked and bowed low" she is judged, killed, and then
hung on display. In her absence, the earth loses its fertility,
crops cease to grow and animals stop reproducing.
See a clay tablet showing the Descent of Inanna.
[IMG]
HTML https://archive.is/5eOsf/e4e048f9d4e8454697cd2dde21017398531e173d.jpg[/img]
After Inanna has been missing for 3 days her assistant asks the
other gods for help. Enki, him again, creates 2 creatures, who
go to the Underworld to sprinkle Inanna and Damuzi with the
plant and water of life, resurrecting them, so they can return
to earth as the light of the sun for six months.
After the six months are up, Tammuz returns to the Underworld of
the dead, again followed by Ishtar, forcing the water god to
rescue them both. This created the cycles of winter death and
spring life.
In ancient Egypt, an egg symbolised the sun, while for the
Babylonians, the egg represents the hatching of the Venus
Ishtar, who fell from heaven to the Euphrates.
[B]Ostara, Eostre[/B]
Some experts claim that Easter was originally a celebration of
Eostre, goddess of Spring and fertility, otherwise known as
Ostara, Austra, and Eastre. This could explain the Easter bunny
and possibly the Easter eggs.
The egg represents Spring, fertility and renewal.
According to Germanic mythology, Ostara healed a wounded bird
she found in the woods by changing it into a hare. Still
partially a bird, the hare showed its gratitude to the goddess
by laying eggs as gifts.
See the depiction of Ostara by Johannes Gehrts.
[IMG]
HTML https://archive.is/5eOsf/4aa70be318358d0a8e1a56a29b64ace0ea729276.jpg[/img]
[B]What’s in a name?[/B]
The name “Easter” could mean that it’s just another celebration
for the witches (magi) from the “East”.
Some say that “Easter” is a variation of the Babylonian name for
Inanna – “Ishtar”.
See he Babylonian Relief of the Goddess Ishtar.
[IMG]
HTML https://archive.is/ykUrE/9d22b660dc7069684605bf182cf51eb134ed1745[/img]
According to New Unger’s Bible Dictionary: “Easter” is of Saxon
origin, derived from “Eostre” a.k.a. “Eastra”, in whose honour
sacrifices were offered each year about Passover.
In Germany it is called “Ostern”.
Easter: in Bulgarian is called “Velikden” (Grand Day), in Polish
“Wielkanoc” (Grand Night), in Czech “Velikonoce” (Grand Nights)
and in Slovak “Velká Noc” (the Grand Night).
In Serbian “Uskrs” or “Vaskrs” (resurrection) and in Japanese
“Fukkatsu-sai” (resurrection festival).
In many European languages the name for “Easter” is derived from
the Greek word for the Hebrew Pesach (Passover) – “Pascha”.
“Easter” is called “Pasqua” in Italian, “Pascua” in Spanish,
“Paques” in French, and “Pasen” in Dutch:
HTML https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/ancient-pagan-origins-easter-001571
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HTML http://archive.is/5eOsf)
[/quote]
Semiramis the wife of Nimrod was the Fertility Queen which is
where the "egg:" in easter comes from.
Easter was also set 14 days apart from Nisan 14 (Hebrew
Passover)on purpose.
Pagan Yes, Satanistic YES!
#Post#: 11007--------------------------------------------------
Sinterklaas, Santa Claus
By: Firestarter Date: March 13, 2020, 10:58 am
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By common consensus Santa Claus is based on one of those great
Dutch successes - Sinterklaas. The English “Santa Claus” sounds
like the Dutch “Sinterklaas”.
Sinterklaas - Sint Klaas. The Dutch word “Sint” would be
translated “Saint” in English (instead of the anagram of Satan
“Santa”).
Lately the popularity of Christmas has been growing while
Sinterklaas in the Netherlands becomes less popular. Could
Sinterklaas be even worse than Christmas?!?
Sinterklaas (“de Sint” in short) lives in Spain and comes to the
Netherlands (and Belgium) in the beginning of November by boat.
[IMG]
HTML https://archive.is/CL9q8/bbea2cc874489b81a830f3bd1767df472edbbc4c.jpg[/img]
Sinterklaas rides on a white horse (schimmel) and has black
helpers (zwarte pieten).
[IMG]
HTML https://www.dehoefslag.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Sinterklaas+.jpg[/img]
Part of the legend of Sinterklaas is that only “sweet” kids get
presents, while “naughty” kids get beaten up with some sticks
(de roe), and really bad kids are taken in a bag to Spain.
[IMG]
HTML https://www.sinterklaasfan.nl/pics/zwarte-piet.jpg[/img]
Usually the kids have to sing in front of the chimney in the
evening (most houses don’t have these anymore) to get presents
in their shoe (which they find the following morning). The
carrot is for the white horse.
[IMG]
HTML https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/t/de-schoen-van-kinderen-en-pepernoten-voor-sinterklaas-59632223.jpg[/img]
These are usually relatively small present: often a piece of
chocolate (both the chocolate letter and pepernoten are typical
for Sinterklaas).
[IMG]
HTML https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/zak-met-traktaties-voor-nederlandse-vakantie-sinterklaas-58199093.jpg[/img]
Sinterklaas rides over the rooftops accompanied by his zwarte
pieten, which go down through the chimney to deliver the
presents.
It is the parents that tell the kids how many times (not every
evening) they can sing for presents. On December 5 is the big
party when the presents are brought in a bag. The December 5
celebration is often with some riming verses that is either read
to a kid or is read by the object of the rime.
Zwarte pieten these days do not carry “de roe” with them anymore
and often have a small bag with candy; sometimes the candy is
given in the hands of children or thrown.
While I’m disgusted with this celebration because it teaches
children that it’s perfectly normal that (brainwashed) adults
lie to them and that they get rewards for being hypocritically
sweet, lately the masses have been demonstrating about the
obvious racism that can be seen in the black coloured “Piet”.
#Post#: 11023--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
By: patrick jane Date: March 13, 2020, 8:22 pm
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Jesus Wasn’t a Pagan God: Debunking Zeitgeist and Religulous
It's peculiar how people trust these pagan documentaries meant
to debunk Jesus Christ, when in fact these productions have no
actual sources as they all quote each other. Believe what you
want Firestarter but you're dead wrong.
11 minutes
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdkxdiPDlkw&list=WL&index=7&t=0s
#Post#: 11024--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
By: guest8 Date: March 13, 2020, 8:26 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=804.msg11023#msg11023
date=1584148973]
Jesus Wasn’t a Pagan God: Debunking Zeitgeist and Religulous
It's peculiar how people trust these pagan documentaries meant
to debunk Jesus Christ, when in fact these productions have no
actual sources as they all quote each other. Believe what you
want Firestarter but you're dead wrong.
11 minutes
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdkxdiPDlkw&list=WL&index=7&t=0s
[/quote]
I will have to agree with PJ.
Blade
#Post#: 11026--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
By: Firestarter Date: March 14, 2020, 9:53 am
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=804.msg11023#msg11023
date=1584148973]]It's peculiar how people trust these pagan
documentaries meant to debunk Jesus Christ, when in fact these
productions have no actual sources as they all quote each other.
Believe what you want Firestarter but you're dead wrong.[/quote]
I find it bizarre that you insinuate that I'm trying to "debunk"
Jesus Christ in this thread.
A Jewish woman once tried to convince me that her religion is
superior over other religions. One of her arguments is that
"Jesus Christ" wasn't even His name!
I had to agree with her on that one...
I believe that there was a man called Joshua from Nazareth, who
was a rebel, excellent speaker and was executed under the
express orders of the Roman Governor of Israel, Pontius Pilate,
because he was considered a threat to the establishment.
Nicknamed the Son of Man...
I once spoke to Canadian Christians, who looked pretty Korean,
and were trained to defend Christianity (I didn't ask them, but
I guess they were Catholics).
When I told them that Christianity was founded by the Mithras,
sun worshipping Roman Emperor Constantine the Great, almost 300
years after "Jesus" was killed they were dumbfounded, as they
didn't even know, who founded the Catholic Church!
I didn't even tell them that it's obvious that the 4th century
Roman scribes, who compiled the New Testament, whitewashed the
murderous Roman governor Pontius Pilate...
I guess that you and your buddy Bladerunner willl simply dismiss
the information I found - as "fake" - that the oldest version of
the Bible known, containing both the Old and New Testaments, is
the Codex Sinaiticus (Sinai Bible, dated around the year 380
AD).
The Sinaiticus begins with the Gospel of Mark, which was the
"first" story on Jesus Christ in the New Testament. It starts
with Jesus "at about the age of thirty" (Mark 1:9), and doesn't
include Mary, a virgin birth or the mass murder of baby boys by
Herod.
In contrast to today's editions (Mark 1:1), Jesus Christ is not
described as "the son of God".
No supernatural resurrection of Jesus Christ is recorded in the
ancient Gospels of Mark. Not only are those narratives missing
from the Sinaiticus, but also from the Alexandrian Bible, the
Vatican Bible, the Bezae Bible and an ancient Latin manuscript
of Mark, code-named "K" by analysts. This is also absent from
the oldest Armenian version of the New Testament, in
sixth-century manuscripts in Ethiopic and ninth-century
Anglo-Saxon Bibles.
Maybe even more damaging, one could argue that the Sinaiticus
simply missed some pages, is that there were 3 Gospels that have
since been deleted: 1) the Shepherd of Hermas (written by
resurrected ghosts Charinus and Lenthius); 2) the Missive of
Barnabas; and 3) the Odes of Solomon.
Since the 4th century, the Bible has been updated over and over
again according to new church doctrine.
In 1562, the Vatican established the censoring unit called Index
Expurgatorius. Its purpose was to delete "erroneous passages of
the early Church Fathers" that opposed “modern-day” doctrine.
When Vatican archivists came across, "genuine copies of the
Fathers, they corrected them according to the Expurgatory
Index".
In 1587, Pope Sixtus V (1585-90) established an official Vatican
publishing division and explained "Church history will be now be
established ... we shall seek to print our own account".
HTML https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=745&start=60
Have you heard the tale about the "3 wise men from the East"
visiting "baby Jesus"?!?
First of all, according to the New Testament there are an
unnumbered amount of "wise men"...
Second, it isn't explicitely written that "Jesus" was still a
newborn baby.
Even more damaging, is that "wise men" is a wrong translation of
the Latin word "magi". The correct translation of the Latin
"magi" is (male) witches. Why would the Roman Satanist scribes
that compiled the Bible, have Him visited by witches to show
their respect?!?
Donald Trump's catchphrase "MAGA" is the Latin word for (female)
witch:
HTML https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=745&start=30#p5721
See a depiction of the 3 "magi" bringing presents to baby Jesus,
with Mithras caps.
You can't make this shit up!
[IMG]
HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Magi_%281%29.jpg/637px-Magi_%281%29.jpg[/img]
#Post#: 11066--------------------------------------------------
St. Nicholas of Myra
By: Firestarter Date: March 16, 2020, 11:47 am
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The story told to gullible adults in the Netherlands and Belgium
on the origins of Sinterklaas, is that he was based on St.
Nicholas of Myra (located in what is now called Turkey)...…
Several things on Sinterklaas, Santa Claus look like a
connection to Mithraism to me:
Sinterklaas wears a red hat (mijter).
St. Nicholas comes from Turkey.
Sinterklaas rides a white horse (schimmel); like St. George.
Christmas is staged on 25 December; the day the Romans
celebrated the birth day of Mithras.
In Christmas festivities the Christmas tree is central; Sabazios
was often pictured with a fir-cone.
On 25 December, the Romans also held festivities for the god
Saturnus (Saturnalia).
See the following image of Mithras, dressed in red, with his
white horse, 4th century AD:
HTML https://web.archive.org/web/20190201152719if_/https://i0.wp.com/archeowiesci.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Hawarte-sciana.jpg
Compare this to Sinterklaas...
[quote=Firestarter]Sinterklaas rides on a white horse (schimmel)
and has black helpers (zwarte pieten).
[IMG]
HTML https://www.dehoefslag.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Sinterklaas+.jpg[/img][/quote]
Saint Nicholas de Myra was also the patron saint of sailors,
merchants and... bankers!
The following fresco in the Santa Croce Basilica, Florence,
shows that Saint Nicholas is the patron saint of bankers (that
wonderful “charitable” institution). A man, wearing a green
overcoat on top of a red coat, borrows money from a banker, in
an orange coat.
As part of his promise to repay, he swears an oath on an image
of Saint Nicholas (see the altarpiece of St. Nicholas in the
background of the image on the right).
[IMG]
HTML http://web.archive.org/web/20190920140112if_/https://static.wixstatic.com/media/02fe14_68f567177c1e4584b5c8131dadf6b415.jpg/v1/fill/w_570,h_296,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/02fe14_68f567177c1e4584b5c8131dadf6b415.webp[/img]
The connection between Saint Nicholas and moneylenders is still
visible in the international icon of pawnbroking: 3 gold balls
(similar to balls hanging in the Christmas tree?) referring to
St. Nicholas providing a dowry to 3 poor girls.
[IMG]
HTML http://web.archive.org/web/20190917151702if_/http://www.ancientpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/pawnbrokersymbol.jpg[/img]
The practice of the 3 gold balls hanging in front of the door of
the money lenders was introduced by the Medici banking family of
Florence, Italy, bankers for Charles Martel’s grandson
Charlemagne. Schemes similar to modern-day pawnbroking, were
advertised as donating money to the poor via low-interest loans.
In 1514, Pope Julius II declared Nikolaos of Myra patron saint
of monetus pieatarius missions:
HTML http://jacozuijderduijn.wixsite.com/pastpensionados/single-post/2015/11/18/Saint-Nicholas-patron-saint-of-bankers
In Belgium the black helpers of Sinterklaas aren’t seen as black
Africans (like the “zwarte piet” in the Netherlands) but as the
“oel” demons.
Also interesting is that the red “mijter” worn by Sinterklaas is
really the mitra worn by the high priest, Pontifex Maximus, of
Mithraism...
The mitra was originally based on the dagon hat worn by the
priest in the Dagon, fish worshipping cult.
[IMG]
HTML http://www.alpha777.nl/uploads/1/8/3/4/18345011/5246609_orig.jpg[/img]
Nicholas of Myra was the the son of wealthy parents. When he was
young, his parents died and his uncle, the local bishop, adopted
him. Nicholas later became a priest and then also a bishop. In
one of those strange coincidences, Nicholas even attended the
First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, convened by Roman Emperor
Constantine, that would proclaim the Bible as the word of God.
St. Nicholas often gave gifts to the poor and died on 6 December
343 (aged 73):
HTML https://ahundredandfortycharactersisusuallyenough.wordpress.com/tag/sinterklaas/
According to an earlier attempt to explain Emperor Constantine’s
conversion to Christianity, it was claimed that he did so after
suffering from leprosy. In the 21th century, our wonderful
history falsifiers have pushed another story, as Constantine
didn’t suffer from leprosy...
This story reads, that in 312 Constantine was commanded in a
dream on the eve of the battle to place the sign of Christ on
the shields of his soldiers. So he chose the sign of Mithras –
the cross?!?
Arius, a priest in Alexandria, taught that there was a time when
Christ did not exist, so wasn’t co-eternal with the Father, and
that the Son was subordinate to the Father and that the Trinity
- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit – are 3 different hypostaseis.
Arius’s teachings were condemned and Arius was excommunicated in
318 by a council convened by the bishop of Alexandria Alexander.
Constantine then summoned the First Ecumenical Council of the
church at Nicaea that started on 20 May 325. The council
formulated the Nicene Creed, including the Trinity and that the
Bible is “God’s word”. Arius was condemned for his dangerous
teachings.
I don’t know if according to legend, Arius “turned the other
cheek” but here’s a fresco showing St Nicholas of Myra slapping
Arius in the face to stop him from talking at the First Council
of Nicaea.
[IMG]
HTML https://archive.is/agoqs/77a1ef8ef9dd236684310301c8e524167e3c084c[/img]
In a great example of Christianity, in 326 Constantine ordered
the execution of his oldest son Crispus, who had come under
suspicion of "being involved" with his stepmother Fausta. Later
that year, soon after killing Crispus, Constantine also had
Fausta, the mother of his other 3 sons, murdered:
HTML http://homepages.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy2/ps06/ps06_195.htm
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HTML http://archive.is/BlR23)
Just about everything on Sinterklaas and Santa Claus is missing
in the tales on St. Nicholas!
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Sinterklaas - Odin
By: Firestarter Date: March 24, 2020, 9:52 am
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I sometimes think that adults are even more gullible than
children.
It looks like the tale of Sinterklaas is mostly based on the
Norse God Odin (the tale of Santa Claus changed his home to the
North Pole). One of Odin's most popular titles is – Allfather.
Odin had a long white beard (one eye) and sometimes visited
earth, in disguise, in a cloak and broad-brimmed hat or hood.
See on the left an early image of Santa Claus and on the right
Odin...
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Most historians agree that many of our Christmas traditions come
from the ancient Norse festival known as Yule or Yuletide. The
Norse sang Yule carols with their children singing from
door-to-door wearing masks.
Vikings in Yule decorated trees with food, gifts, and small
carvings. The Christmas tree could also be a reference to the
Persian Tree of life...
Loki, the god of mischief and misfortune murdered the god
Baldur, with a spear made from mistletoe. The Mistletoe berries
later became a symbol of love in the same story, hence the
tradition of kissing under it...
Norse stories sometimes describe Odin flying through the sky on
a chariot pulled by his 8-legged flying white horse Sleipnir,
visiting homes in the middle of the night and leaving gifts for
children in their boots by the fireplace during the Yule season.
Odin also rode in a flying chariot (or sleigh) pulled by
Sleipnir.
Originally Santa’s single horse pulled his sleigh. This only
became 8 reindeer after “[I]Twas the Night Before Christmas[/I]”
(1823).
In anticipation of Odin’s return from the Great Hunt, the Yule,
Norse children left their boots stuffed with straw by the
fireplace. In the morning Odin had taken the straw and left
sweets and presents in the boots.
Odin’s 2 ravens, Huginn and Muninn, were his eyes and ears and
always watching the Vikings (like Mithras). Ravens also play an
important role in Mithraism:
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Re: Sinterklaas - Odin
By: guest8 Date: March 24, 2020, 10:43 am
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[quote author=Firestarter link=topic=804.msg11259#msg11259
date=1585061545]
I sometimes think that adults are even more gullible than
children.
It looks like the tale of Sinterklaas is mostly based on the
Norse God Odin (the tale of Santa Claus changed his home to the
North Pole). One of Odin's most popular titles is – Allfather.
Odin had a long white beard (one eye) and sometimes visited
earth, in disguise, in a cloak and broad-brimmed hat or hood.
See on the left an early image of Santa Claus and on the right
Odin...
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Most historians agree that many of our Christmas traditions come
from the ancient Norse festival known as Yule or Yuletide. The
Norse sang Yule carols with their children singing from
door-to-door wearing masks.
Vikings in Yule decorated trees with food, gifts, and small
carvings. The Christmas tree could also be a reference to the
Persian Tree of life...
Loki, the god of mischief and misfortune murdered the god
Baldur, with a spear made from mistletoe. The Mistletoe berries
later became a symbol of love in the same story, hence the
tradition of kissing under it...
Norse stories sometimes describe Odin flying through the sky on
a chariot pulled by his 8-legged flying white horse Sleipnir,
visiting homes in the middle of the night and leaving gifts for
children in their boots by the fireplace during the Yule season.
Odin also rode in a flying chariot (or sleigh) pulled by
Sleipnir.
Originally Santa’s single horse pulled his sleigh. This only
became 8 reindeer after “[I]Twas the Night Before Christmas[/I]”
(1823).
In anticipation of Odin’s return from the Great Hunt, the Yule,
Norse children left their boots stuffed with straw by the
fireplace. In the morning Odin had taken the straw and left
sweets and presents in the boots.
Odin’s 2 ravens, Huginn and Muninn, were his eyes and ears and
always watching the Vikings (like Mithras). Ravens also play an
important role in Mithraism:
HTML https://sonsofvikings.com/blogs/history/viking-origins-of-christmas-yule-traditions
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HTML http://web.archive.org/web/20190201150437/https://sonsofvikings.com/blogs/history/viking-origins-of-christmas-yule-traditions)
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Yes, Easster and Christmas are pagan ritual events from ancient
times. However, to day, a small group of people consider
Christmas as a time to celebrate the Birth of Jesus Christ that
happened in the fall of the year.
They also celebrate Easter as the Resurrection of Christ......
While the Catholic Church has over the years, gone to great
lengths to separate the Jewish Passover and subsequent feast
days from their day of "Resurrection" Worship also known as
Easter; other churches including the Protestant groups have
followed suite without any cry-out.
Blade
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Re: The Pagan origins of Easter and Christmas
By: Firestarter Date: March 26, 2020, 11:07 am
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Over 170 names are recorded for the Norse god Odin (the Father).
In German his name was Wuotan or Wotan and in old English and
Saxon Woden and Wodan.
Odin has only one eye. There are many “masonic” pictures with
the one eye motto. Most of them don´t mention that this could be
in reference to Odin...
Odin died either by hanging from or crucifixion on the ”world
tree” (Yggdrasil). See the picture, 1895.
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Mithras wore a Phyrgian cap and was accompanied by a raven, a
dog and a serpent (snake).
Odin had 2 wolves and 2 ravens for companion. See a picture of
Odin (I don’t know what the snake means).
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See another picture of Odin, one eye, in red with a cape and a
yellow sun, with 2 ravens, 18th century.
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I found the following interesting long article (not only on
Odin!)...
The Norse Trinity consisted of Odin (the father), his son Thor
(who is crucified), and son of inspiration (the Holy Ghost)
Freyr.
See a detail from runestone in the Swedish Museum of National
Antiquities in Stockholm. The 3 men are interpreted as Odin,
Thor and Freyr.
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The modern English “Wednesday” comes from Old English wodnesdæg,
like the Dutch “woensdag” is derived from wodensdach – Odin day.
Also the Dutch “woede” (anger), is derived from Wodan (Odin).
Thursday (donderdag in Dutch) is named after Odin´s son Thor.
Friday is named after Freyr.
Constantine had the writings of Arius burned; that was closer to
the teachings of Joshua of Nazareth than the New Testament Jesus
Christ.
See Roman Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicaea, with
Arius's books burned, Italy, ca. 825.
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The number 12 – zodiac signs, number of months, sons of Jacob
(Israel) and apostles – dates back all the way to the Sumerians.
See the following Sumerian tablet, dated 3000 BC or older.
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HTML https://arthuride.wordpress.com/tag/odin/
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In one of those strange coincidences, according to the Prose
Vedda (dated 9th to 12th century), Odin (Voden), the son of
Fríallaf, originally came from Thrace (now Turkey), home of
serpent and Mithras worshipping, before moving to what is now
Scandinavia.
The genealogy begins with Noah from the Tanach (Old Testament),
whose ark landed in what is now Turkey:
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