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#Post#: 9677--------------------------------------------------
Melchizedek
By: patrick jane Date: January 14, 2020, 10:56 pm
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Hebrews 5:1-14 ASV
1 For every high priest, being taken from among men, is
appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer
both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
2 who can bear gently with the ignorant and erring, for that he
himself also is compassed with infirmity;
3 and by reason thereof is bound, as for the people, so also for
himself, to offer for sins.
4 And no man taketh the honor unto himself, but when he is
called of God, even as was Aaron.
5 So Christ also glorified not himself to be made a high priest,
but he that spake unto him, Thou art my Son, This day have I
begotten thee:
6 as he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever
After the order of Melchizedek.
7 Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and
supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was
able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly
fear,
8 though he was a Son, yet learned obedience by the things which
he suffered;
9 and having been made perfect, he became unto all them that
obey him the author of eternal salvation;
10 named of God a high priest after the order of Melchizedek.
11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard of
interpretation, seeing ye are become dull of hearing.
12 For when by reason of the time ye ought to be teachers, ye
have need again that some one teach you the rudiments of the
first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as
have need of milk, and not of solid food.
13 For every one that partaketh of milk is without experience of
the word of righteousness; for he is a babe.
14 But solid food is for fullgrown men, even those who by reason
of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.
Hebrews 7:1-8 ASV
1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of God Most High,
who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and
blessed him,
2 to whom also Abraham divided a tenth part of all (being first,
by interpretation, King of righteousness, and then also King of
Salem, which is, King of peace;
3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having
neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like unto1
the Son of God), abideth a priest continually.
4 Now consider how great this man2 was,3 unto whom Abraham, the
patriarch, gave a tenth out of the chief spoils.
5 And they indeed of the sons of Levi that receive the priest's
office have commandment to take tithes of the people according
to the law, that is, of their brethren, though these have come
out of the loins of Abraham:
6 but he whose genealogy is not counted from them hath taken
tithes of Abraham, and hath blessed him that hath the promises.
7 But without any dispute the less is blessed of the better.
8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there one, of whom
it is witnessed that he liveth.
Notes:
1
αφωμοιωμεν_
9;ς
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 871:
ἀφομοιόω
ἀφομοιόω,
ἀφομοιῶ: (perfect passive
participle
ἀφωμοιωμέν	
59;ς
(on augment see WH's Appendix, p. 161)); "to cause a model to
pass off (ἀπό) into an image or shape like it —
to express itself in it" (cf.
ἀπεικάζειν,
ἀπεικονίζε	
53;ν,
ἀποπλάσσει	
57;,
ἀπομιμεῖσθ&#
945;ι);
to copy; to produce a facsimile: τά
καλά εἴδη, of painters,
Xenophon, mem. 3, 10, 2; often in Plato. Passive to be made
like, rendered similar: so Hebrews 7:3. (Epistle Jeremiah 4 (5),
62 (63), 70 (71); and in Plato.)
2 ουτος - "this one", "that one", "he",
(not necessarily "this man" as rendered in the ASV).
3 "was" - only necessary to the ASV rendering because of the way
this statement is rendered, (nothing of the kind exists in the
Greek text), and if anything it should say "is", not "was", "Now
consider how great this one is", (which is evidenced by the fact
that the author says Melchizedek abides-remains Priest into the
perpetuity, forever).
Assertions based on the Epistle to the Hebrews:
1 Melchizedek is an express facsimile-image of the Word within
the Word.
2 Melchizedek abides-remains Priest of the Most High Elohim into
the perpetuity, (forever).
3 Melchizedek is the one and only one-of-a-kind Son of Elohim.
4 The Anointed One is High Priest after the order of
Melchizedek.
5 The author of the Epistle to the Hebrews is teaching Adoption.
#Post#: 9694--------------------------------------------------
Re: Melchizedek
By: guest8 Date: January 15, 2020, 5:56 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=740.msg9677#msg9677
date=1579064192]
Hebrews 5:1-14 ASV
1 For every high priest, being taken from among men, is
appointed for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer
both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
2 who can bear gently with the ignorant and erring, for that he
himself also is compassed with infirmity;
3 and by reason thereof is bound, as for the people, so also for
himself, to offer for sins.
4 And no man taketh the honor unto himself, but when he is
called of God, even as was Aaron.
5 So Christ also glorified not himself to be made a high priest,
but he that spake unto him, Thou art my Son, This day have I
begotten thee:
6 as he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever
After the order of Melchizedek.
7 Who in the days of his flesh, having offered up prayers and
supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was
able to save him from death, and having been heard for his godly
fear,
8 though he was a Son, yet learned obedience by the things which
he suffered;
9 and having been made perfect, he became unto all them that
obey him the author of eternal salvation;
10 named of God a high priest after the order of Melchizedek.
11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard of
interpretation, seeing ye are become dull of hearing.
12 For when by reason of the time ye ought to be teachers, ye
have need again that some one teach you the rudiments of the
first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as
have need of milk, and not of solid food.
13 For every one that partaketh of milk is without experience of
the word of righteousness; for he is a babe.
14 But solid food is for fullgrown men, even those who by reason
of use have their senses exercised to discern good and evil.
Hebrews 7:1-8 ASV
1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of God Most High,
who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and
blessed him,
2 to whom also Abraham divided a tenth part of all (being first,
by interpretation, King of righteousness, and then also King of
Salem, which is, King of peace;
3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having
neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like unto1
the Son of God), abideth a priest continually.
4 Now consider how great this man2 was,3 unto whom Abraham, the
patriarch, gave a tenth out of the chief spoils.
5 And they indeed of the sons of Levi that receive the priest's
office have commandment to take tithes of the people according
to the law, that is, of their brethren, though these have come
out of the loins of Abraham:
6 but he whose genealogy is not counted from them hath taken
tithes of Abraham, and hath blessed him that hath the promises.
7 But without any dispute the less is blessed of the better.
8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there one, of whom
it is witnessed that he liveth.
Notes:
1
αφωμοιωμεν_
9;ς
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 871:
ἀφομοιόω
ἀφομοιόω,
ἀφομοιῶ: (perfect passive
participle
ἀφωμοιωμέν	
59;ς
(on augment see WH's Appendix, p. 161)); "to cause a model to
pass off (ἀπό) into an image or shape like it —
to express itself in it" (cf.
ἀπεικάζειν,
ἀπεικονίζε	
53;ν,
ἀποπλάσσει	
57;,
ἀπομιμεῖσθ&#
945;ι);
to copy; to produce a facsimile: τά
καλά εἴδη, of painters,
Xenophon, mem. 3, 10, 2; often in Plato. Passive to be made
like, rendered similar: so Hebrews 7:3. (Epistle Jeremiah 4 (5),
62 (63), 70 (71); and in Plato.)
2 ουτος - "this one", "that one", "he",
(not necessarily "this man" as rendered in the ASV).
3 "was" - only necessary to the ASV rendering because of the way
this statement is rendered, (nothing of the kind exists in the
Greek text), and if anything it should say "is", not "was", "Now
consider how great this one is", (which is evidenced by the fact
that the author says Melchizedek abides-remains Priest into the
perpetuity, forever).
Assertions based on the Epistle to the Hebrews:
1 Melchizedek is an express facsimile-image of the Word within
the Word.
2 Melchizedek abides-remains Priest of the Most High Elohim into
the perpetuity, (forever).
3 Melchizedek is the one and only one-of-a-kind Son of Elohim.
4 The Anointed One is High Priest after the order of
Melchizedek.
5 The author of the Epistle to the Hebrews is teaching Adoption.
[/quote]
NO to [color=orange]"Melchizedek is the one and only
one-of-a-kind Son of Elohim."
We do not know very much about him but the fact He was a King
and Priest is a type of Jesus Christ.....Jesus was/is a King,
was/is a priest and is also a prophet..
There is another? the 'Type of Melchizedek' encompasses. That
will be those in the Church (body of Christ). We will rule the
earth through Jesus Christ as Kings and Priest.
Blade[/color]
#Post#: 9792--------------------------------------------------
Re: Melchizedek
By: guest116 Date: January 19, 2020, 10:41 pm
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I find it interesting that the ancient Hebrew historian Josephus
calls Melchizedek two different titles. In his book called the
"War of the Jews", he calls him a Canaanite Chief. Then in his
book "The Antiquities of the Jews", he referred to him as
Priest.
The two references in the bible to Melchizedek referred to him
as a King of Salem in Genisis 14 then is referred to as a
Priest in Psalms 110.
In one other historical writing type of book they note that he
thought he was the first coming of the Messiah and that he would
return in the future to fulfill his duties.
This is definitely going to be on my read a research list after
I finish working on my writing on Esther.
#Post#: 9974--------------------------------------------------
Re: Melchizedek
By: guest8 Date: January 29, 2020, 8:05 pm
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[quote author=Mschmidt54 link=topic=740.msg9792#msg9792
date=1579495307]
I find it interesting that the ancient Hebrew historian Josephus
calls Melchizedek two different titles. In his book called the
"War of the Jews", he calls him a Canaanite Chief. Then in his
book "The Antiquities of the Jews", he referred to him as
Priest.
The two references in the bible to Melchizedek referred to him
as a King of Salem in Genisis 14 then is referred to as a
Priest in Psalms 110.
In one other historical writing type of book they note that he
thought he was the first coming of the Messiah and that he would
return in the future to fulfill his duties.
This is definitely going to be on my read a research list after
I finish working on my writing on Esther.
[/quote]
Melchizedek is a type for Jesus and the (Church (body of
Christ))
Why....He was the King of Salem and was also a Priest the
Abraham had given Tithes to.
The Type of Jesus is that Jesus is a King, He is the High Priest
and Prophet.
The Type of Church is that the Body of Christ (all of them)
will become Kings and Priest as written in Revelation.
Other than what Josephus states in His writings, Nothing else is
known about Melchizedek.
Blade
#Post#: 9975--------------------------------------------------
Re: Melchizedek
By: guest116 Date: January 29, 2020, 9:07 pm
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Philo mentions Melchizedek five times in his writings. I am
still trying to decipher what he is trying to express. Philo is
hard for me. I know others find him easy to follow.
#Post#: 9976--------------------------------------------------
Re: Melchizedek
By: guest8 Date: January 29, 2020, 11:10 pm
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[quote author=Mark Schmidt link=topic=740.msg9975#msg9975
date=1580353622]
Philo mentions Melchizedek five times in his writings. I am
still trying to decipher what he is trying to express. Philo is
hard for me. I know others find him easy to follow.
[/quote]
In the book I have of Philo, he mentions Melchizedek, three
times with Paul exalting Jesus Christ above Melchizedek as a
King and Priest. Still does not tell us anything about this man
that spoke to Abraham.
Heard you were feeling better...Good to hear.
Blade
#Post#: 9978--------------------------------------------------
Re: Melchizedek
By: guest116 Date: January 29, 2020, 11:14 pm
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Yeah, that seems to be a real issue is from what I can tell
there is nothing written about him He seems to be somewhat
important in the timeline so to speak but not enough to give
background detail.
Yes feeling better thank you.
#Post#: 9993--------------------------------------------------
Re: Melchizedek
By: guest8 Date: January 30, 2020, 6:33 pm
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[quote author=Mark Schmidt link=topic=740.msg9978#msg9978
date=1580361298]
Yeah, that seems to be a real issue is from what I can tell
there is nothing written about him He seems to be somewhat
important in the timeline so to speak but not enough to give
background detail.
Yes feeling better thank you.
[/quote]
He is indeed a type of Jesus Christ as a King and
Priest.....also the Church (Body of Christ) will also be Kings
and Priest.....
In Israel it was forbidden against the law to be both a King and
Priest. The Church (Wife of Christ) will be in good company.
Blade
#Post#: 16554--------------------------------------------------
Re: Melchizedek
By: patrick jane Date: August 22, 2020, 10:52 pm
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yes
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