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Re: What is the difference between being born again and salvatio
n?
By: patrick jane Date: July 29, 2020, 9:45 am
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Even Among Well-Meaning Christians, ‘Born Again’ Is Often
Misunderstood
Recapturing the meaning of a much-stereotyped phrase.
Being called a “born-again Christian” can mean many things to
many people. For some, it means you are a Bible-thumping
fundamentalist or a political conservative. For others, it means
you were converted at a Billy Graham crusade. Countless
stereotypes have created endless confusion.
In New Life in Christ: What Really Happens When You’re Born
Again and Why It Matters, Steven J. Lawson moves beyond today’s
(mis)use of the phrase to recapture its biblical meaning and
extraordinary significance for the Christian life. With pastoral
care, he takes us back to that eerie late-night encounter
between Jesus and Nicodemus in John 3. Nicodemus, like many
today, was as religious as they come. By today’s standards, he
would be the popular pastor or professor everyone knows and
respects. That makes Jesus’ words of warning so surprising: “No
one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again” (v.
3). Nicodemus admits he has no idea what Jesus is talking about:
“How can someone be born when they are old? Surely they cannot
enter into their mother’s womb a second time to be born!” (v.
4).
As the teacher of Israel, Nicodemus should have remembered Moses
and the prophets, who used several metaphors to describe this
second birth. Moses told the people of Israel they needed God to
circumcise their hearts (Deut. 30:6), and Ezekiel promised
Israel that one day God himself would act as a surgeon, removing
the dead heart of stone and implanting a heart that beats (Ezek.
36:26). Jesus may move the metaphor to the delivery room, but
the message is the same: Unless the Spirit of God does something
supernatural, we remain spiritually lifeless.
Unfortunately, even the most well-meaning Christians today can
get this miracle backwards. We think the new birth is something
we must do. But that misses the miracle of it all. It also
misses the meaning of the metaphor: Birth is something that
happens to us, not something we accomplish. How much more so
with matters of the heart? Lawson stresses that the new birth is
the work of the Spirit, not the work of any sinner. Jesus says
as much when he tells Nicodemus that one must be born of the
Spirit (John 3:5). But like the wind, the Spirit is sovereign,
blowing wherever it wishes (v. 8).
That might sound unnerving to evangelicals today, in that it
pictures the new birth as something other than an offer we can
choose to accept or reject. But Jesus is in the habit of turning
preconceived assumptions upside down, even if they belong to
Israel’s most renowned scholar. The reason Jesus’ words are so
shocking is this: Like babies in the womb, we can do nothing to
bring about this new birth. It is not something we initiate. Nor
is it a cooperative effort between us and God. It is completely
his doing, a phenomenon so unnatural it can only be attributed
to the Holy Spirit.
As Lawson reminds us, accepting Jesus is not what triggers the
new birth, as if God sits around waiting—hoping!—that somebody
somewhere will believe so that he can make that person alive. In
reality, apart from new life, we will never believe. Our
depravity is that pervasive, sin’s grip that enslaving. In
another audacious exercise in ticking off Israel’s religious
experts, Jesus tells the Pharisees not only that they won’t come
to him for life but also that they can’t (John 6:44, 65). Not
unless Jesus draws them, that is; until then, they will never
believe in the Father who sent him.
The fact that the new birth produces faith and repentance,
rather than stemming from them, is truly liberating. We do not
preach or evangelize as if we must somehow work the sinner over
until he or she is willed into the kingdom. We are more like the
prophet Ezekiel: God tells us to speak words of life to a valley
of dry bones. They are dead until they begin to rattle and come
alive (Ezek. 37).
The point is, let’s remember who the true miracle worker is:
God, not us. We tell others about King Jesus, and then we wait
and watch the kingdom fill up, as the Spirit who created the
cosmos creates new life in hearts otherwise dead in darkness.
No, we can’t see the wind. But we know its power because we can
see its effects: a kingdom full of new life in Christ.
Matthew Barrett is associate professor of Christian theology at
Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, as well as the
executive editor of Credo Magazine. He is the author of many
books, including None Greater: The Undomesticated Attributes of
God (Baker Books).
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Re: What is the difference between being born again and salvatio
n?
By: guest58 Date: July 30, 2020, 9:01 pm
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=698.msg14104#msg14104 date=1591762136]
So reading all this and trying to follow this, salvation and
reborn are different but you need both in some order to get to
the ultimate goal?
So if you have a calling and you are following and pursuing it,
where are you at?
[/quote]
Ummm, to be saved one must have been given the promise of
salvation by being elected to be HIS bride and then having the
fulfillment of that promise of election in your sinful life
which includes a rebirth...
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Re: What is the difference between being born again and salvatio
n?
By: guest58 Date: July 30, 2020, 9:04 pm
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=698.msg14111#msg14111 date=1591769957] Does this then
allow you to pursue salvation and more?
[/quote]
Salvation does not have to be pursued; it is a given you will
receive all it entails if you are elect.
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Re: What is the difference between being born again and salvatio
n?
By: guest24 Date: July 31, 2020, 7:33 am
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[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=698.msg15691#msg15691
date=1596161040]
[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=698.msg14111#msg14111 date=1591769957] Does this then
allow you to pursue salvation and more?
[/quote]
Salvation does not have to be pursued; it is a given you will
receive all it entails if you are elect.
[/quote]Philippians 2:12
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Re: What is the difference between being born again and salvatio
n?
By: patrick jane Date: October 2, 2020, 12:03 pm
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:D
#Post#: 18329--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the difference between being born again and salvatio
n?
By: guest8 Date: October 2, 2020, 10:27 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=698.msg18303#msg18303
date=1601658219]
:D
[/quote]
will agree with the original post.
Blade
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Re: What is the difference between being born again and salvatio
n?
By: patrick jane Date: May 27, 2021, 5:21 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=698.msg18329#msg18329
date=1601695655]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=698.msg18303#msg18303
date=1601658219]
:D
[/quote]
will agree with the original post.
Blade
[/quote] ;D
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