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Re: Trinity
DIR By: guest24
Date: October 15, 2018, 1:18 pm
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God has and is using me in a lot of different ways. Even
through this physical issue that I am now battling, God is using
me and it to further the Kingdom. To list it all would be
cumbersome and a bit more "prideful" sounding than I am
comfortable doing.
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Re: Trinity
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: November 17, 2018, 9:38 pm
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10 Reasons why Jesus is God!
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Re: Trinity
DIR By: guest8
Date: December 5, 2018, 8:25 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> 10 Reasons why Jesus is God!
>
>
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> 9 minutes
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>
> [shadow=blue,left] In Deuteronomy 6:4-5
[shadow=red,left]"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"
(singularity of GOD)
>
> However in the NT; Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, John
14-17, tells us there is a three-person Godhead
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Re: Trinity
DIR By: Theo102
Date: December 6, 2018, 12:21 pm
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> The Holy Spirit is peaking here! Psalm 2:1-5
--- End Quote ---
There's no evidence of that. The doctrine of the Trinity isn't
supported by Hebrew scripture.
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take
counsel together, against YHWH, and against his anointed,
saying,
Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from
us.
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have
them in derision.
Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his
sore displeasure.
Psalm 2:1-5
The Word speaks through Zecharaiah, but AFAIK spirits don't
speak.
In that day shall YHWH defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and
he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and
the house of David shall be as Elohim, as the angel of YHWH
before them.
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to
destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the
inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of
supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have
pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his
only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in
bitterness for his firstborn.
Zechariah 12:8-10
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Re: Trinity
DIR By: guest8
Date: December 6, 2018, 7:40 pm
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--- Quote from: Theo102 link ---
>
> [quote]The Holy Spirit is peaking here! Psalm 2:1-5
--- End Quote ---
There's no evidence of that. The doctrine of the Trinity isn't
supported by Hebrew scripture.
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take
counsel together, against YHWH, and against his anointed,
saying,
Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from
us.
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have
them in derision.
Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his
sore displeasure.
Psalm 2:1-5
The Word speaks through Zecharaiah, but AFAIK spirits don't
speak.
In that day shall YHWH defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and
he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and
the house of David shall be as Elohim, as the angel of YHWH
before them.
And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to
destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the
inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of
supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have
pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his
only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in
bitterness for his firstborn.
Zechariah 12:8-10
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]If you will rem. Israel and especially their
Rabbis are partially Blinded and have been since 70 AD. Until
the FUllness of the Gentiles, will their blindness be lifted.
Which Hebrew scriptures are you speaking about. I have searched
the Septuagint LXX and have found it to be the same as the KJV.
Sorry.
What it comes down to is: do you believe in the word of GOD and
if you do what version do you believe is the WORD of GOD. All
versions but the KJV came out of the Alexander Codices. Most if
not all of the other versions in more than one way change the
WORD of GOD in some cases to make it easier to understand. Yet,
to make it easier to understand, the translator has to put in
his/her words. thus most all of the newer versions are
copyrighted because it is their words, not GODs. IN some KJV
version, Later copies, have notes in the side bars, maps, etc.
that allows them to copyright the book. However, if you ask the
publisher of these books, they will tell you the copyright is
for the notes, study material, maps, etc. and not GOD's WORD.
The other will not tell you this.
I use the Hebrew and the Greek languages to study the errors
that are in the KJV 1611 version. 1769 version had removed some
of these error yet, there were still some that exist today.
(i.e. Cherub - SIngular,, Cheribim - (IM- plural, yet in the KJV
they are spelled Cheribim(s), a double plural).
In the Church (Bride of CHrist) there are both races (Jews and
Gentiles)and together they are ONE>
Blade[/shadow]
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Re: Trinity
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: December 6, 2018, 10:21 pm
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I agree Blade, good post.
#Post#: 2695--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trinity
DIR By: Firestarter
Date: December 7, 2018, 10:20 am
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Finally a “Christian” topic that I have some information on…
There was some resistance against adopting the Trinity into
Christianity. Three versions were debated, until the present one
was voted into existence by the powers that rule over the
church.
The Tanach (Old Testament) names God as the one and only true
God (one, not three), see for example.
Deuteronomy 6:4
--- Quote ---
> Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
> Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD.
--- End Quote ---
2 Samuel 7:22
--- Quote ---
> Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like
thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all
that we have heard with our ears.
--- End Quote ---
Isaiah 46:9
--- Quote ---
> For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is
none like me.
--- End Quote ---
The following from the New Testament (also) names God only “one”
God.
1 Corinthians 8:6
--- Quote ---
> But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all
things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are
all things, and we by him.
--- End Quote ---
Before Jesus there were several religions that followed a
Trinity as the highest:
HTML https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the
In Egypt “The Hymn to Amun” decreed that “No god came into being
before him” and that “All gods are three: Amun, Re and Ptah”.
In Germanic nations the 3 Gods were Wodan, Thor and Fricco.
In India Hinduism was already founded more than 3,000 years ago.
The 3 Gods – Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva - form a Trinity (I once
asked a Hindu, who told me that they can be compared to the
three in one God of Christanity).
See the picture of the 3 Gods, even the halo around their heads
was copied by Christianity…
HTML http://www.trinitytruth.org/images/brahma-vishnu-Shiva-trinity.jpg
The Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit) isn’t in the Tenach but first
appears in the New Testament. The most interesting appearance of
the Holy Ghost, is where Mary is “found” with his child.
Matthew 1:18
--- Quote ---
> Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his
mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together,
she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
--- End Quote ---
According to the New Testament, Jesus Christ named the Trinity -
Father, Word, Holy Ghost; Father, Son, Holy Ghost; Spirit,
water, blood - as three parts of the same God…
1 John 5:7-8
--- Quote ---
> For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
> And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit,
and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
--- End Quote ---
Matthew 28:19
--- Quote ---
> Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
--- End Quote ---
Following are some numerological arguments to illustrate that
the Trinity, triangle is really Satanic.
The Babylonians believed in a Trinity, and used the sexagesimal
(60) number system from which comes 60 minutes in an hour, 60
seconds in a minute, 360 (60×6) degrees in a circle and 60
degrees in each angle of an equilateral triangle and so on. 360
divided by 10 = 36; 6 * 6 = 36; 2 * 3 = 6.
An even triangle has 3 corners of 60 degrees, 60, 60, 60
representing 666.
The numbers from 1 to 36 total 666 like this: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5
+ 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 11 + 12 + 13 + 14 + 15 + 16 + 17 + 18 +
19 + 20 + 21 + 22 + 23 + 24 + 25 + 26 + 27 + 28 + 29 + 30 + 31 +
32 + 33 + 34 + 35 + 36 = 666
In witchcraft also a Trinity symbol is used, see for example
these wiccan chalices.
HTML http://www.trinitytruth.org/images/wiccanchalices.jpg
The same (satanic) symbol is even used on some editions of the
New King James Bible and the New International Version of the
Bible.
HTML http://www.trinitytruth.org/images/bibletriquetra.jpg
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Re: Trinity
DIR By: Theo102
Date: December 7, 2018, 2:17 pm
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"The Tanach (Old Testament) names God as the one and only true
God (one, not three), see for example."
The "God' is ambiguous and of little value when trying to
understand the doctrine of the Trinity.
In the Bible the word "God' is typically a translation of the
plural Hebrew word Elohim.
Deuteronomy 6:4 Names YHWH as the singular Elah, not Elohim.
שמע ישראל
יהוה
אלהינו
יהוה אחד
Hear Israel, YHWH Elohynuw, YHWH one.
In Isaiah 46:9 the first "God" is a translation of El, and the
second is of Elohim.
זכרו
ראשנות
מעולם כי
אנכי אל
ואין עוד
אלהים ואפס
Remember the former things of old: for I am El, and there is no
other Elohim like me.
Isaiah 46:9
HTML https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/46-9.htm
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Re: Trinity
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: December 7, 2018, 3:37 pm
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--- Quote from: Theo102 link ---
>
> "The Tanach (Old Testament) names God as the one and only true
God (one, not three), see for example."
>
> The "God' is ambiguous and of little value when trying to
understand the doctrine of the Trinity.
> In the Bible the word "God' is typically a translation of the
plural Hebrew word Elohim.
>
> Deuteronomy 6:4 Names YHWH as the singular Elah, not Elohim.
>
> שמע ישראל
יהוה
אלהינו
יהוה אחד
>
> Hear Israel, YHWH Elohynuw, YHWH one.
>
> In Isaiah 46:9 the first "God" is a translation of El, and the
second is of Elohim.
>
> זכרו
ראשנות
מעולם כי
אנכי אל
ואין עוד
אלהים ואפס
>
> Remember the former things of old: for I am El, and there is
no other Elohim like me.
> Isaiah 46:9
>
>
HTML https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/46-9.htm
>
--- End Quote ---
"If you have seen me you have seen the Father" "I and my Father
are one" The Word is God and the Word became flesh and dwelt
among us. You can ignore the clear and plain words of God at
your own peril. Go to hell !!!
#Post#: 2700--------------------------------------------------
Re: Trinity
DIR By: guest8
Date: December 7, 2018, 7:47 pm
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--- Quote from: Firestarter link ---
>
> Finally a “Christian” topic that I have some information on…
> There was some resistance against adopting the Trinity into
Christianity. Three versions were debated, until the present one
was voted into existence by the powers that rule over the
church.
>
> The Tanach (Old Testament) names God as the one and only true
God (one, not three), see for example.
> Deuteronomy 6:4 [quote]Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one
LORD:
> Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD.
--- End Quote ---
2 Samuel 7:22
--- Quote ---
> Wherefore thou art great, O LORD God; for there is none like
thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all
that we have heard with our ears.
--- End Quote ---
Isaiah 46:9
--- Quote ---
> For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is
none like me.
--- End Quote ---
The following from the New Testament (also) names God only “one”
God.
1 Corinthians 8:6
--- Quote ---
> But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all
things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are
all things, and we by him.
--- End Quote ---
Before Jesus there were several religions that followed a
Trinity as the highest:
HTML https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/is-god-a-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption-of-the
In Egypt “The Hymn to Amun” decreed that “No god came into being
before him” and that “All gods are three: Amun, Re and Ptah”.
In Germanic nations the 3 Gods were Wodan, Thor and Fricco.
In India Hinduism was already founded more than 3,000 years ago.
The 3 Gods – Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva - form a Trinity (I once
asked a Hindu, who told me that they can be compared to the
three in one God of Christanity).
See the picture of the 3 Gods, even the halo around their heads
was copied by Christianity…
HTML http://www.trinitytruth.org/images/brahma-vishnu-Shiva-trinity.jpg
The Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit) isn’t in the Tenach but first
appears in the New Testament. The most interesting appearance of
the Holy Ghost, is where Mary is “found” with his child.
Matthew 1:18
--- Quote ---
> Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his
mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together,
she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
--- End Quote ---
According to the New Testament, Jesus Christ named the Trinity -
Father, Word, Holy Ghost; Father, Son, Holy Ghost; Spirit,
water, blood - as three parts of the same God…
1 John 5:7-8
--- Quote ---
> For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
> And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit,
and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
--- End Quote ---
Matthew 28:19
--- Quote ---
> Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
--- End Quote ---
Following are some numerological arguments to illustrate that
the Trinity, triangle is really Satanic.
The Babylonians believed in a Trinity, and used the sexagesimal
(60) number system from which comes 60 minutes in an hour, 60
seconds in a minute, 360 (60×6) degrees in a circle and 60
degrees in each angle of an equilateral triangle and so on. 360
divided by 10 = 36; 6 * 6 = 36; 2 * 3 = 6.
An even triangle has 3 corners of 60 degrees, 60, 60, 60
representing 666.
The numbers from 1 to 36 total 666 like this: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5
+ 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 11 + 12 + 13 + 14 + 15 + 16 + 17 + 18 +
19 + 20 + 21 + 22 + 23 + 24 + 25 + 26 + 27 + 28 + 29 + 30 + 31 +
32 + 33 + 34 + 35 + 36 = 666
In witchcraft also a Trinity symbol is used, see for example
these wiccan chalices.
HTML http://www.trinitytruth.org/images/wiccanchalices.jpg
The same (satanic) symbol is even used on some editions of the
New King James Bible and the New International Version of the
Bible.
HTML http://www.trinitytruth.org/images/bibletriquetra.jpg
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]I would not have believed it except: "The Holy
Ghost (Holy Spirit) isn’t in the Tenach but first appears in the
New Testament."
I think the Holy Spirit was around from the beginning, Gen
1:2..."And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness
was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon
the face of the waters."
Blade[/shadow]
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