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Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: guest8 Date: October 29, 2020, 8:04 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=648.msg19790#msg19790
date=1603996853]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=648.msg16783#msg16783
date=1598671959]
[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=648.msg9867#msg9867 date=1579927150]
Just to be the fly in the ointment. Every time this argument of
the LBGT community and God comes up I wonder why it matters.
They are accepted by God or not is not my call or my issue. It
is between them and God. If they read the bible, good on them.
If the quietly attend a church and do nothing any of the others
of us do, no problem. As long as they do not try to convert me
or include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it
comes to their religion. It truly becomes between them and God.
I do not suppose myself to be so wise as to supplant God's
ultimate judgment on them with my own. Those that are judging
others in God's name are no worse than those they presume to
judge.
Exclude them from your life, from your church from work, that's
all the evil you do, Judge them in God's name and you too shall
be judged.
So in my humble opinion, just drop this and let us move to make
the world live more in harmony.
[/quote]
you said, Mark. "As long as they do not try to convert me or
include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it comes
to their religion."
Do they need to know the gospel of Jesus Christ, YES!
Do We need to tell them what awaits for them if they do not
change their ways! YES!
In Romans 1, Paul gives us Jesus' words about the Judgement of
the LGBTQX?
In fact, this Judgement has already come upon the US and the
earth!
Rom 1:24-25..(KJV)..Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour
their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of
God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than
the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Notice the "Wherefore God also gave them up" part...He says this
three times, with three different judgements.
We know they are judgements for we have approx dates the
judgement began. Yes, that all three judgements have happen
within the last 50 years.
Rom 1:24 started in the 80's and 90's with the sexual
revolution. "to uncleanness through the lusts of their own
hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves"
Some of you may not remember that far back and some will say it
started a little earlier. Yet by most accounts the 'anything
goes' sexual revolution started in the late 80's and early 90's.
Rom 1:25.. "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and
worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is
blessed for ever. " This is also the time where the Philadephia
Church became a 'has been' and the "I have need of nothing "
church began.
The second phase started around 2002-205..where the Homosexuals
came out in numbers and the LGBTqx.... began. Here we hear these
words again.
Rom 1:26-27..(KJV).."For this cause God gave them up unto vile
affections: for even their women did change the natural use into
that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving
the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward
another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and
receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was
meet.
The vile affections are considered the STDs or sexually
transmitted diseases. As a former health person, the STDs have
been around for a long time rising and lowering in numbers
according to the population and wars (i.e. Vietnam war) of the
time. Yet, in the early 2000s, these STDs skyrocketed and have
yet to come back down.
The Judgement was Homosexuality itself. Yes, here is what GOD
states.
HE GAVE THEM OVER TO:" for even their women did change the
natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also
the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their
lust one toward another; men with men working that which is
unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet."
Then around 2015, These people decided that they no longer were
of the sex they were born with. That they were no longer a he or
a she. I ask you...What kind of mind comes to these
conclusions. A REPROBATE MIND?
Rom 1:28..(KJV).. "And even as they did not like to retain God
in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to
do those things which are not convenient;"
Today the homosexuals believe in pushing their sickness on to
others and the churches. Yet, we are not to judge them???? I
don't believe God actually said that.
Rom 1:29-31 God gives us the sins they and others will commit
"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate,
deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God,
despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things,
disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers,
without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"
Rom 1:31.."Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which
commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same,
but have pleasure in them that do them."
Mark, I have always tried not to judge the individual but rather
judge the sin that they commit.
For in reality there is only one sin that will send you to HELL
and that is "UnBELIEF" - "according to Scriptures"
"when you say they are accepted by GOD", I say unless they turn
around to believe in His name (according to scripture) and
repent from their sins recorded in Rom 1:24-31; GOD will not
accept them according to His WORD!
As for the sins represented in this chapter, yes they have
happened before but not on the world wide scale that is seen
these days. I have friends that are of that persuasion and have
told themthe consequences of their actions. Their reply of thank
you but am not interested, told me all I needed to know. Yes,
they are still friends and in the end when I am in heaven, I too
will cry a tear for all those possibilities that were missed
resulting in an eternity without GOD for many.
We are charged with bringing them the gospel of Jesus Christ
according to scripture. Without judging someones actions
(fruits) one cannot know who to bring this Gospel to...
Sticking one's head in the sand as many do, especially many of
the Charismatic/Ecumenical churches believing that all will go
to heaven.This in my opinion and many others is not-biblical.
Thanks Mark and have a great day.
Blade
[/quote]Great post Blade
[/quote]
Acceptance and toleration are two different ideas. I knew a
family once where their grandson had become GAY...They still
loved Him but would only allow the grandson (not his partner) at
their home even at Christmas time which at one time was a time
for the (entire) family....I ask myself
often...could I do the same if the same situation come about. I
hope so for Jesus tells us we are to love him more than
ourselfs, our families, etc.
The acceptance of Marriage between gays is another that is
tearing this country apart... It is not the person but their
lifestyle.
The rainbow flag, a covenant symbol of GOD with mankind..This is
absolutely the worse thing they could have done; throw God's Bow
back in His face. No good at all.
Blade
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