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Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the Ameri
can Left
By: bernardpyron Date: October 27, 2019, 1:18 pm
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Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the
American Left
Bernard Pyron
Follow Paul in Romans Chapter One, and the way he gets into
what we now call the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
Movement.
Start with Romans 1:22-23.
"φασκοντες
ειναι σοφοι
εμωρανθησα_
7;,"
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." "And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made
like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts,
and creeping things."
εμωρανθησα_
7;
is from Strong's number 3471. mórainó. See:
HTML https://biblehub.com/greek/3471.htm
mórainó means "to make foolish, turn to foolishness,without
an edge"); (figuratively) acting "stupid or silly," "insipid,
flat, "to play the fool", See 3474 (mōros)."
εμωρανθησα_
7;,
emoranthesan means to be made stupid, or to receive stupidity.
Those who Paul is describing in Romans 1: 22-32 are made
stupid by their ungodliness and unrighteousness.
If we apply Romans 1: 22-32 to many in the present day
American Leftist-Marxist movement, their unrighteousness would
lead to them to receive a mental condition of stupidity.
And Paul goes on in Romans 24-32 to describe what else
happens to those who are living in unrighteousness and
ungodliness so that the wrath of God is revealed against them.
Romans 1: 24-32 says "Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour
their own bodies between themselves:
25.Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped
and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed
for ever. Amen.
26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
for even their women did change the natural use into that which
is against nature:
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of
the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men
working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that
recompence of their error which was meet.
28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those
things which are not convenient;
29. Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,
wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder,
debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30. Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters,
inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31. Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural
affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit
such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have
pleasure in them that do them.
In Romans 1: 26-27 Paul gets into the giving of these people
who have brought the wrath of God down on themselves (Romans 1:
18) over to lesbianism and homosexuality, or now in 2019, what
is called the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Movement,
the LGBT people.
Paul uses a word in Romans 1: 29,
εριδος, eris, which Strongs
defines as "a quarrel, wrangling, contention, debate, strife,
variance." Eris is Strong's number 2054 A look at similar texts
dealing with arguments or quarrels leads to I Timothy 6: 3-4,
where Paul uses
logomachia, number 3055 in Strong's and is said to mean
"disputations, strife of words." Logomachia might be translated
as "word fights."
Then on the subject of "word fights" or arguments within
dialogue there is a brief text in I Timothy 6: 20-21 that
includes the Greek word
αντιθεσεις, or
anti-thesis,which is a technical term in the early Greek
philosophy of the
διαλεκτική, or
dialectic, before the time of Christ.
In the dialectic, there is a direct opposition between the
thesis and the anti-thesis.
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science
falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning
the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen."
ω τιμοθεε
την
παρακαταθη_
4;ην
φυλαξον
εκτρεπομεν_
9;ς
τας
βεβηλους
κενοφωνιας
και
αντιθεσεις
της
ψευδωνυμου
γνωσεως 21. ην
τινες
επαγγελλομ^
9;νοι
περι την
πιστιν
ηστοχησαν η
χαρις μετα
σου αμην
"και
αντιθεσεις
της
ψευδωνυμου
γνωσεως or "and anti-thesis
of falsely called knowledge."
In the eyes of the dialectical philosophy, nothing is
established for
all time, nothing is absolute or sacred." (Karl Marx)
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis...sis,_synthesis
"Karl Marx (1818-1883) and Friedrich Engels (1820-1895)
adopted and extended the triad, especially in Marx's The Poverty
of Philosophy (1847). Here, in Chapter 2, Marx is obsessed by
the word "thesis". It can be said to form an important part of
the basis for the Marxist theory..."
The young Marx as a radical intellectual embraced a Leftist
Hegelian movement, based upon Hegel's bringing the Greek
philosophy of the
διαλεκτική, or
dialectic, into modern philosophy. In the dialectic the first
position, called the thesis, is argued against by an opposite
position, called the anti-thesis. Though not understood by many,
this paradigm has somehow come to be used in a great deal of
discourse now in all the institutions of society.
Paul says in I Timothy 6: 20-21 to avoid the anti-thesis of
falsely called knowledge, "which some professing have erred
concerning the faith."
#Post#: 8491--------------------------------------------------
Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: guest8 Date: October 27, 2019, 3:58 pm
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[quote author=bernardpyron link=topic=648.msg8490#msg8490
date=1572200305]
Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the
American Left
Bernard Pyron
Follow Paul in Romans Chapter One, and the way he gets into
what we now call the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
Movement.
Start with Romans 1:22-23.
"φασκοντες
ειναι σοφοι
εμωρανθησα_
7;,"
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." "And
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made
like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts,
and creeping things."
εμωρανθησα_
7;
is from Strong's number 3471. mórainó. See:
HTML https://biblehub.com/greek/3471.htm
mórainó means "to make foolish, turn to foolishness,without
an edge"); (figuratively) acting "stupid or silly," "insipid,
flat, "to play the fool", See 3474 (mōros)."
εμωρανθησα_
7;,
emoranthesan means to be made stupid, or to receive stupidity.
Those who Paul is describing in Romans 1: 22-32 are made
stupid by their ungodliness and unrighteousness.
If we apply Romans 1: 22-32 to many in the present day
American Leftist-Marxist movement, their unrighteousness would
lead to them to receive a mental condition of stupidity.
And Paul goes on in Romans 24-32 to describe what else
happens to those who are living in unrighteousness and
ungodliness so that the wrath of God is revealed against them.
Romans 1: 24-32 says "Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour
their own bodies between themselves:
25.Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped
and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed
for ever. Amen.
26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
for even their women did change the natural use into that which
is against nature:
27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of
the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men
working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that
recompence of their error which was meet.
28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those
things which are not convenient;
29. Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,
wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder,
debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30. Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters,
inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31. Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural
affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit
such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have
pleasure in them that do them.
In Romans 1: 26-27 Paul gets into the giving of these people
who have brought the wrath of God down on themselves (Romans 1:
18) over to lesbianism and homosexuality, or now in 2019, what
is called the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Movement,
the LGBT people.
Paul uses a word in Romans 1: 29,
εριδος, eris, which Strongs
defines as "a quarrel, wrangling, contention, debate, strife,
variance." Eris is Strong's number 2054 A look at similar texts
dealing with arguments or quarrels leads to I Timothy 6: 3-4,
where Paul uses
logomachia, number 3055 in Strong's and is said to mean
"disputations, strife of words." Logomachia might be translated
as "word fights."
Then on the subject of "word fights" or arguments within
dialogue there is a brief text in I Timothy 6: 20-21 that
includes the Greek word
αντιθεσεις, or
anti-thesis,which is a technical term in the early Greek
philosophy of the
διαλεκτική, or
dialectic, before the time of Christ.
In the dialectic, there is a direct opposition between the
thesis and the anti-thesis.
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science
falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning
the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen."
ω τιμοθεε
την
παρακαταθη_
4;ην
φυλαξον
εκτρεπομεν_
9;ς
τας
βεβηλους
κενοφωνιας
και
αντιθεσεις
της
ψευδωνυμου
γνωσεως 21. ην
τινες
επαγγελλομ^
9;νοι
περι την
πιστιν
ηστοχησαν η
χαρις μετα
σου αμην
"και
αντιθεσεις
της
ψευδωνυμου
γνωσεως or "and anti-thesis
of falsely called knowledge."
In the eyes of the dialectical philosophy, nothing is
established for
all time, nothing is absolute or sacred." (Karl Marx)
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesis...sis,_synthesis
"Karl Marx (1818-1883) and Friedrich Engels (1820-1895)
adopted and extended the triad, especially in Marx's The Poverty
of Philosophy (1847). Here, in Chapter 2, Marx is obsessed by
the word "thesis". It can be said to form an important part of
the basis for the Marxist theory..."
The young Marx as a radical intellectual embraced a Leftist
Hegelian movement, based upon Hegel's bringing the Greek
philosophy of the
διαλεκτική, or
dialectic, into modern philosophy. In the dialectic the first
position, called the thesis, is argued against by an opposite
position, called the anti-thesis. Though not understood by many,
this paradigm has somehow come to be used in a great deal of
discourse now in all the institutions of society.
Paul says in I Timothy 6: 20-21 to avoid the anti-thesis of
falsely called knowledge, "which some professing have erred
concerning the faith."
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]How about a summary on the LGBTQriengjuidytps
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 8498--------------------------------------------------
Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: bernardpyron Date: October 27, 2019, 6:05 pm
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HTML https://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/lgbt-rights-milestones-fast-facts
"LGBT Rights Milestones Fast Facts"
HTML https://www.vanderbilt.edu/lgbtqi/resources/definitions
"Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, & Intersex Life
Definitions"
#Post#: 8499--------------------------------------------------
Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: guest8 Date: October 27, 2019, 9:21 pm
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[quote author=bernardpyron link=topic=648.msg8498#msg8498
date=1572217503]
HTML https://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/lgbt-rights-milestones-fast-facts
"LGBT Rights Milestones Fast Facts"
HTML https://www.vanderbilt.edu/lgbtqi/resources/definitions
"Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, & Intersex Life
Definitions"
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Yes Vanderbilt like Nashville have hit the
bottom of the bucket.
The timeline of the LGBT vs GOD's timeline...My money is on
GOD's timeline.
Blade
[/shadow]
#Post#: 9867--------------------------------------------------
Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: guest116 Date: January 24, 2020, 10:39 pm
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Just to be the fly in the ointment. Every time this argument of
the LBGT community and God comes up I wonder why it matters.
They are accepted by God or not is not my call or my issue. It
is between them and God. If they read the bible, good on them.
If the quietly attend a church and do nothing any of the others
of us do, no problem. As long as they do not try to convert me
or include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it
comes to their religion. It truly becomes between them and God.
I do not suppose myself to be so wise as to supplant God's
ultimate judgment on them with my own. Those that are judging
others in God's name are no worse than those they presume to
judge.
Exclude them from your life, from your church from work, that's
all the evil you do, Judge them in God's name and you too shall
be judged.
So in my humble opinion, just drop this and let us move to make
the world live more in harmony.
#Post#: 9886--------------------------------------------------
Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: guest8 Date: January 25, 2020, 9:14 am
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[quote author=Mschmidt54 link=topic=648.msg9867#msg9867
date=1579927150]
Just to be the fly in the ointment. Every time this argument of
the LBGT community and God comes up I wonder why it matters.
They are accepted by God or not is not my call or my issue. It
is between them and God. If they read the bible, good on them.
If the quietly attend a church and do nothing any of the others
of us do, no problem. As long as they do not try to convert me
or include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it
comes to their religion. It truly becomes between them and God.
I do not suppose myself to be so wise as to supplant God's
ultimate judgment on them with my own. Those that are judging
others in God's name are no worse than those they presume to
judge.
Exclude them from your life, from your church from work, that's
all the evil you do, Judge them in God's name and you too shall
be judged.
So in my humble opinion, just drop this and let us move to make
the world live more in harmony.
[/quote]
Good morning my friend....I agree with you that toleration is
the only way to go here...Yet, it is our commission to tell them
what awaits them if they continue their 24-7 sin against GOD as
it is written in His word....
Yes, it is up to HIM but HE tells us all that only by faith will
one see an eternal life.
Have a Blessed day and thanks for your thoughts.
Blade
#Post#: 9887--------------------------------------------------
Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: patrick jane Date: January 25, 2020, 12:37 pm
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[quote author=Mschmidt54 link=topic=648.msg9867#msg9867
date=1579927150]
Just to be the fly in the ointment. Every time this argument of
the LBGT community and God comes up I wonder why it matters.
They are accepted by God or not is not my call or my issue. It
is between them and God. If they read the bible, good on them.
If the quietly attend a church and do nothing any of the others
of us do, no problem. As long as they do not try to convert me
or include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it
comes to their religion. It truly becomes between them and God.
I do not suppose myself to be so wise as to supplant God's
ultimate judgment on them with my own. Those that are judging
others in God's name are no worse than those they presume to
judge.
Exclude them from your life, from your church from work, that's
all the evil you do, Judge them in God's name and you too shall
be judged.
So in my humble opinion, just drop this and let us move to make
the world live more in harmony.
[/quote]I agree Mark. To each his own so to speak. That's why
when somebody asked me what I would say if they told me they
were gay. I said I love you and I disagree with your choices. I
will never judge you and God loves you as much as anyone else.
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Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: patrick jane Date: August 28, 2020, 3:25 pm
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lgbtq
#Post#: 16783--------------------------------------------------
Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: guest8 Date: August 28, 2020, 10:32 pm
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[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=648.msg9867#msg9867 date=1579927150]
Just to be the fly in the ointment. Every time this argument of
the LBGT community and God comes up I wonder why it matters.
They are accepted by God or not is not my call or my issue. It
is between them and God. If they read the bible, good on them.
If the quietly attend a church and do nothing any of the others
of us do, no problem. As long as they do not try to convert me
or include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it
comes to their religion. It truly becomes between them and God.
I do not suppose myself to be so wise as to supplant God's
ultimate judgment on them with my own. Those that are judging
others in God's name are no worse than those they presume to
judge.
Exclude them from your life, from your church from work, that's
all the evil you do, Judge them in God's name and you too shall
be judged.
So in my humble opinion, just drop this and let us move to make
the world live more in harmony.
[/quote]
you said, Mark. "As long as they do not try to convert me or
include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it comes
to their religion."
Do they need to know the gospel of Jesus Christ, YES!
Do We need to tell them what awaits for them if they do not
change their ways! YES!
In Romans 1, Paul gives us Jesus' words about the Judgement of
the LGBTQX?
In fact, this Judgement has already come upon the US and the
earth!
Rom 1:24-25..(KJV)..Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour
their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of
God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than
the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Notice the "Wherefore God also gave them up" part...He says this
three times, with three different judgements.
We know they are judgements for we have approx dates the
judgement began. Yes, that all three judgements have happen
within the last 50 years.
Rom 1:24 started in the 80's and 90's with the sexual
revolution. "to uncleanness through the lusts of their own
hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves"
Some of you may not remember that far back and some will say it
started a little earlier. Yet by most accounts the 'anything
goes' sexual revolution started in the late 80's and early 90's.
Rom 1:25.. "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and
worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is
blessed for ever. " This is also the time where the Philadephia
Church became a 'has been' and the "I have need of nothing "
church began.
The second phase started around 2002-205..where the Homosexuals
came out in numbers and the LGBTqx.... began. Here we hear these
words again.
Rom 1:26-27..(KJV).."For this cause God gave them up unto vile
affections: for even their women did change the natural use into
that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving
the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward
another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and
receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was
meet.
The vile affections are considered the STDs or sexually
transmitted diseases. As a former health person, the STDs have
been around for a long time rising and lowering in numbers
according to the population and wars (i.e. Vietnam war) of the
time. Yet, in the early 2000s, these STDs skyrocketed and have
yet to come back down.
The Judgement was Homosexuality itself. Yes, here is what GOD
states.
HE GAVE THEM OVER TO:" for even their women did change the
natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also
the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their
lust one toward another; men with men working that which is
unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet."
Then around 2015, These people decided that they no longer were
of the sex they were born with. That they were no longer a he or
a she. I ask you...What kind of mind comes to these
conclusions. A REPROBATE MIND?
Rom 1:28..(KJV).. "And even as they did not like to retain God
in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to
do those things which are not convenient;"
Today the homosexuals believe in pushing their sickness on to
others and the churches. Yet, we are not to judge them???? I
don't believe God actually said that.
Rom 1:29-31 God gives us the sins they and others will commit
"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate,
deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God,
despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things,
disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers,
without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"
Rom 1:31.."Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which
commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same,
but have pleasure in them that do them."
Mark, I have always tried not to judge the individual but rather
judge the sin that they commit.
For in reality there is only one sin that will send you to HELL
and that is "UnBELIEF" - "according to Scriptures"
"when you say they are accepted by GOD", I say unless they turn
around to believe in His name (according to scripture) and
repent from their sins recorded in Rom 1:24-31; GOD will not
accept them according to His WORD!
As for the sins represented in this chapter, yes they have
happened before but not on the world wide scale that is seen
these days. I have friends that are of that persuasion and have
told themthe consequences of their actions. Their reply of thank
you but am not interested, told me all I needed to know. Yes,
they are still friends and in the end when I am in heaven, I too
will cry a tear for all those possibilities that were missed
resulting in an eternity without GOD for many.
We are charged with bringing them the gospel of Jesus Christ
according to scripture. Without judging someones actions
(fruits) one cannot know who to bring this Gospel to...
Sticking one's head in the sand as many do, especially many of
the Charismatic/Ecumenical churches believing that all will go
to heaven.This in my opinion and many others is not-biblical.
Thanks Mark and have a great day.
Blade
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Re: Follow Paul In Romans 1: 22-32 On the LGBT Movement Of the A
merican Left
By: patrick jane Date: October 29, 2020, 1:40 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=648.msg16783#msg16783
date=1598671959]
[quote author=Chaplain Mark Schmidt
link=topic=648.msg9867#msg9867 date=1579927150]
Just to be the fly in the ointment. Every time this argument of
the LBGT community and God comes up I wonder why it matters.
They are accepted by God or not is not my call or my issue. It
is between them and God. If they read the bible, good on them.
If the quietly attend a church and do nothing any of the others
of us do, no problem. As long as they do not try to convert me
or include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it
comes to their religion. It truly becomes between them and God.
I do not suppose myself to be so wise as to supplant God's
ultimate judgment on them with my own. Those that are judging
others in God's name are no worse than those they presume to
judge.
Exclude them from your life, from your church from work, that's
all the evil you do, Judge them in God's name and you too shall
be judged.
So in my humble opinion, just drop this and let us move to make
the world live more in harmony.
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you said, Mark. "As long as they do not try to convert me or
include me in anything, I do not care what the do when it comes
to their religion."
Do they need to know the gospel of Jesus Christ, YES!
Do We need to tell them what awaits for them if they do not
change their ways! YES!
In Romans 1, Paul gives us Jesus' words about the Judgement of
the LGBTQX?
In fact, this Judgement has already come upon the US and the
earth!
Rom 1:24-25..(KJV)..Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour
their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of
God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than
the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Notice the "Wherefore God also gave them up" part...He says this
three times, with three different judgements.
We know they are judgements for we have approx dates the
judgement began. Yes, that all three judgements have happen
within the last 50 years.
Rom 1:24 started in the 80's and 90's with the sexual
revolution. "to uncleanness through the lusts of their own
hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves"
Some of you may not remember that far back and some will say it
started a little earlier. Yet by most accounts the 'anything
goes' sexual revolution started in the late 80's and early 90's.
Rom 1:25.. "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and
worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is
blessed for ever. " This is also the time where the Philadephia
Church became a 'has been' and the "I have need of nothing "
church began.
The second phase started around 2002-205..where the Homosexuals
came out in numbers and the LGBTqx.... began. Here we hear these
words again.
Rom 1:26-27..(KJV).."For this cause God gave them up unto vile
affections: for even their women did change the natural use into
that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving
the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward
another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and
receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was
meet.
The vile affections are considered the STDs or sexually
transmitted diseases. As a former health person, the STDs have
been around for a long time rising and lowering in numbers
according to the population and wars (i.e. Vietnam war) of the
time. Yet, in the early 2000s, these STDs skyrocketed and have
yet to come back down.
The Judgement was Homosexuality itself. Yes, here is what GOD
states.
HE GAVE THEM OVER TO:" for even their women did change the
natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also
the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their
lust one toward another; men with men working that which is
unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their
error which was meet."
Then around 2015, These people decided that they no longer were
of the sex they were born with. That they were no longer a he or
a she. I ask you...What kind of mind comes to these
conclusions. A REPROBATE MIND?
Rom 1:28..(KJV).. "And even as they did not like to retain God
in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to
do those things which are not convenient;"
Today the homosexuals believe in pushing their sickness on to
others and the churches. Yet, we are not to judge them???? I
don't believe God actually said that.
Rom 1:29-31 God gives us the sins they and others will commit
"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate,
deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God,
despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things,
disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers,
without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"
Rom 1:31.."Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which
commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same,
but have pleasure in them that do them."
Mark, I have always tried not to judge the individual but rather
judge the sin that they commit.
For in reality there is only one sin that will send you to HELL
and that is "UnBELIEF" - "according to Scriptures"
"when you say they are accepted by GOD", I say unless they turn
around to believe in His name (according to scripture) and
repent from their sins recorded in Rom 1:24-31; GOD will not
accept them according to His WORD!
As for the sins represented in this chapter, yes they have
happened before but not on the world wide scale that is seen
these days. I have friends that are of that persuasion and have
told themthe consequences of their actions. Their reply of thank
you but am not interested, told me all I needed to know. Yes,
they are still friends and in the end when I am in heaven, I too
will cry a tear for all those possibilities that were missed
resulting in an eternity without GOD for many.
We are charged with bringing them the gospel of Jesus Christ
according to scripture. Without judging someones actions
(fruits) one cannot know who to bring this Gospel to...
Sticking one's head in the sand as many do, especially many of
the Charismatic/Ecumenical churches believing that all will go
to heaven.This in my opinion and many others is not-biblical.
Thanks Mark and have a great day.
Blade
[/quote]Great post Blade
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