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Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest58 Date: September 21, 2019, 12:12 pm
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[quote]How Jesus determined who to predestinate and who NOT to
predestinate is unknown by all except HIM.
We do not KNOW!, We do not KNOW! the HOW and WHYs. We just know
there are those that are elected (predestined) and there are
those that are now.[/quote]
Yes WE DO KNOW! HE has led some to an understanding of whom HE
chose and why... Insulting me will not make that go away.
#Post#: 8051--------------------------------------------------
Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest8 Date: September 21, 2019, 8:12 pm
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[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=622.msg8050#msg8050
date=1569085974]
[quote]How Jesus determined who to predestinate and who NOT to
predestinate is unknown by all except HIM.
We do not KNOW!, We do not KNOW! the HOW and WHYs. We just know
there are those that are elected (predestined) and there are
those that are now.[/quote]
es WE DO KNOW! HE has led some to an understanding of whom HE
chose and why... Insulting me will not make that go away.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
An understanding.....How do one understand GOD. Rem, He has
already told us we cannot understand HIM...To do that I guess
you must have something special going on with HIM.
Blade
[/shadow]
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Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest58 Date: September 22, 2019, 3:09 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=622.msg8051#msg8051
date=1569114763]
[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=622.msg8050#msg8050
date=1569085974]
[quote]How Jesus determined who to predestinate and who NOT to
predestinate is unknown by all except HIM.
We do not KNOW!, We do not KNOW! the HOW and WHYs. We just know
there are those that are elected (predestined) and there are
those that are now.[/quote]
Yes WE DO KNOW! HE has led some to an understanding of whom HE
chose and why... Insulting me will not make that go away.
[/quote]
An understanding.....How do one understand GOD. Rem, He has
already told us we cannot understand HIM...To do that I guess
you must have something special going on with HIM.
Blade[/quote]
So, does the fulfillment of Hebrews 8:11 No longer will they
teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the Lord,'
because they will all know me, from the least of them to the
greatest. come all at once as a world ranging miracle or in one
small place and slowly growing into a realization of the truth
by ALL?
Anyway, I guess we can know GOD after all...
1 John 2:27 And as for you, the anointing you received from Him
remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But
just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all
things, so remain in Him as you have been taught.
Philippians 3:15 All of us who are mature should embrace this
point of view. And if you think differently about some issue,
God will reveal this to you as well.
Nope, pretty ordinary...
#Post#: 8075--------------------------------------------------
Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest8 Date: September 23, 2019, 7:41 pm
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[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=622.msg8070#msg8070
date=1569182966]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=622.msg8051#msg8051
date=1569114763]
[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=622.msg8050#msg8050
date=1569085974]
[quote]How Jesus determined who to predestinate and who NOT to
predestinate is unknown by all except HIM.
We do not KNOW!, We do not KNOW! the HOW and WHYs. We just know
there are those that are elected (predestined) and there are
those that are now.[/quote]
Yes WE DO KNOW! HE has led some to an understanding of whom HE
chose and why... Insulting me will not make that go away.
[/quote]
An understanding.....How do one understand GOD. Rem, He has
already told us we cannot understand HIM...To do that I guess
you must have something special going on with HIM.
Blade[/quote]
So, does the fulfillment of Hebrews 8:11 No longer will they
teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the Lord,'
because they will all know me, from the least of them to the
greatest. come all at once as a world ranging miracle or in one
small place and slowly growing into a realization of the truth
by ALL?
Anyway, I guess we can know GOD after all...
1 John 2:27 And as for you, the anointing you received from Him
remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But
just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all
things, so remain in Him as you have been taught.
Philippians 3:15 All of us who are mature should embrace this
point of view. And if you think differently about some issue,
God will reveal this to you as well.
Nope, pretty ordinary...
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]just as I
Blade[/shadow]
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Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest58 Date: September 30, 2019, 6:22 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=622.msg8051#msg8051
date=1569114763]
[shadow=blue,left]
An understanding.....How do one understand GOD. Rem, He has
already told us we cannot understand HIM...To do that I guess
you must have something special going on with HIM.
Blade[/shadow][/quote]
Rom 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against
all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth
by their wickedness. 19 For what may be known about God is plain
to them, because God has made it plain to them.
The truth about GOD is suppressed by wickedness, not unknown.
The truth about HIM is plain to everyone because HE makes it
plain to everyone. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s
invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have
been clearly seen...
I don't know where you think it says we cannot know HIM because
it might be a wrong interpretation.
#Post#: 8174--------------------------------------------------
Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest8 Date: September 30, 2019, 7:23 pm
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[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=622.msg8173#msg8173
date=1569885728]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=622.msg8051#msg8051
date=1569114763]
[shadow=blue,left]
An understanding.....How do one understand GOD. Rem, He has
already told us we cannot understand HIM...To do that I guess
you must have something special going on with HIM.
Blade[/shadow][/quote]
Rom 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against
all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth
by their wickedness. 19 For what may be known about God is plain
to them, because God has made it plain to them.
The truth about GOD is suppressed by wickedness, not unknown.
The truth about HIM is plain to everyone because HE makes it
plain to everyone. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s
invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have
been clearly seen...
I don't know where you think it says we cannot know HIM because
it might be a wrong interpretation.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
we know him through His creation and HIS WORD>...Yet, We cannot
know how He thinks. Therefore we cannot speak for HIM out side
or the WORDS He has told to us in the BIBLE
Blade[/shadow]
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Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest58 Date: October 1, 2019, 11:31 am
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=622.msg8174#msg8174
date=1569889435] we know him through His creation and HIS
WORD>...Yet, We cannot know how He thinks. Therefore we cannot
speak for HIM out side or the WORDS He has told to us in the
BIBLE Blade[/quote] GOD speaks to us thru HIS written word by
the voice of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirits also gives us
counsel during our days and tells us what HE thinks.
Eating is an oft used Biblical metaphor for a deep comunion
exemplified by Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock.
If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and
dine with him, and he with Me. Is this a true verse or is it
not?
John 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice,
Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through
the word of Christ. Is hearing actually seeing or is it hearing
a voice or is it telepathy from GOD??
Jeremiah 33:3 Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell
you great and hidden things that you have not known. Who dares
be the recipient of these great and hidden things in today's
climate of distrust and animosity to new revelations
re-interpreting old doctrine??
Ths verse says it can happen and who am I to say it never has
happened??
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Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest8 Date: October 3, 2019, 11:32 pm
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[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=622.msg8200#msg8200
date=1569947487]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=622.msg8174#msg8174
date=1569889435] we know him through His creation and HIS
WORD>...Yet, We cannot know how He thinks. Therefore we cannot
speak for HIM out side or the WORDS He has told to us in the
BIBLE Blade[/quote] GOD speaks to us thru HIS written word by
the voice of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirits also gives us
counsel during our days and tells us what HE thinks.
Eating is an oft used Biblical metaphor for a deep comunion
exemplified by Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock.
If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and
dine with him, and he with Me. Is this a true verse or is it
not?
John 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice,
Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through
the word of Christ. Is hearing actually seeing or is it hearing
a voice or is it telepathy from GOD??
Jeremiah 33:3 Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell
you great and hidden things that you have not known. Who dares
be the recipient of these great and hidden things in today's
climate of distrust and animosity to new revelations
re-interpreting old doctrine??
Ths verse says it can happen and who am I to say it never has
happened??
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]You said:"Who dares be the recipient of these
great and hidden things in today's climate of distrust and
animosity to new revelations re-interpreting old doctrine??"
Are these your words, they are certainly not GOD's.
You see, if I told you about my dream (vision) that the Holy
SPirit gave to me, I would be witnessing to you what has
happened to me. That witnessing is NOT the WORD of GOD not
should it be preached as if it is. Yet, many evangelicals
preachers do just that.
Yes, the Holy SPirit is within every TRUE Christian. He will
guide them if they will follow. He will teach them if they will
listen and He will protect them if they will wear the Holy
Armour of GOD.
Blade
[/shadow]
#Post#: 8229--------------------------------------------------
Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest58 Date: October 4, 2019, 1:42 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=622.msg8218#msg8218
date=1570163556]You said:"Who dares be the recipient of these
great and hidden things in today's climate of distrust and
animosity to new revelations re-interpreting old doctrine??"
Are these your words, they are certainly not GOD's.
Blade [/quote]
Of course they are my words but they refer to the new revelation
that may be soon upon us that people may not discuss because of
the prevailing attitude against such things happening.
Rev 10:8 Then the voice that I had heard from heaven spoke to me
again, saying, “Go, take the small scroll that lies open in the
hand of the angel standing on the sea and on the land.” 9 And I
went to the angel and said, “Give me the small scroll.” “Take it
and eat it,” he said. “It will make your stomach bitter, but in
your mouth it will be sweet as honey.”
10 So I took the small scroll from the angel’s hand and ate it;
and it was sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it,
my stomach turned bitter. 11 And they told me, “You must
prophesy again about many peoples and nations and tongues and
kings.”
It does not matter if this scroll (literally a little bible),
contains a new revelation or a new interpretation of old
revelations that have been misinterpreted over the
centuries....it probably reflects the fulfillment of Dan 12:4
But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the
time of the end.
and references Zechariah 5:2-4 :
1 I looked again—and there before me was a flying scroll!
2 He asked me, “What do you see?” I answered, “I see a flying
scroll, thirty feet long and fifteen feet wide.”
3 And he said to me, “This is the curse that is going out over
the whole land; for according to what it says on one side, every
thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the
other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished.
4 The Lord Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will
enter the house of the thief and the house of him who swears
falsely by my name. It will remain in his house and destroy it,
both its timbers and its stones.’”
Since it is a HOLY book (scroll) it would probably contain some
ideas of an unearthly (previously unrevealed) nature. Its
measurement "just happens" to match the holy place of GOD's
temple, so it would probably be a holy book. And its holy
message will have a profound effect on some people, for it
obviously has some bad news:
Kiel(#2) comments: “The roll therefore symbolised the curse
which will fall upon sinners throughout the whole land,
consuming them with their houses, and thus sweeping them out of
the nation of GOD.” (In other words, Armageddon.)
A Curse by the message of a scroll (book) upon those who swears
falsely by my name ie, they must have a modicum of the Christian
life about them; don't think we've seen that yet...so maybe it
too is in our not so distant future. It could be that John's
sour stomach came from knowing many false Christians would be
cursed, though the message was holy. But it is probably NOT a
cursable offence to not believe there are revelations to come.
#Post#: 8230--------------------------------------------------
Re: Misfits the Second:
By: guest8 Date: October 4, 2019, 8:03 pm
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[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=622.msg8229#msg8229
date=1570214545]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=622.msg8218#msg8218
date=1570163556]You said:"Who dares be the recipient of these
great and hidden things in today's climate of distrust and
animosity to new revelations re-interpreting old doctrine??"
Are these your words, they are certainly not GOD's.
Blade [/quote]
Of course they are my words but they refer to the new revelation
that may be soon upon us that people may not discuss because of
the prevailing attitude against such things happening.
Rev 10:8 Then the voice that I had heard from heaven spoke to me
again, saying, “Go, take the small scroll that lies open in the
hand of the angel standing on the sea and on the land.” 9 And I
went to the angel and said, “Give me the small scroll.” “Take it
and eat it,” he said. “It will make your stomach bitter, but in
your mouth it will be sweet as honey.”
10 So I took the small scroll from the angel’s hand and ate it;
and it was sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it,
my stomach turned bitter. 11 And they told me, “You must
prophesy again about many peoples and nations and tongues and
kings.”
It does not matter if this scroll (literally a little bible),
contains a new revelation or a new interpretation of old
revelations that have been misinterpreted over the
centuries....it probably reflects the fulfillment of Dan 12:4
But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the
time of the end.
and references Zechariah 5:2-4 :
1 I looked again—and there before me was a flying scroll!
2 He asked me, “What do you see?” I answered, “I see a flying
scroll, thirty feet long and fifteen feet wide.”
3 And he said to me, “This is the curse that is going out over
the whole land; for according to what it says on one side, every
thief will be banished, and according to what it says on the
other, everyone who swears falsely will be banished.
4 The Lord Almighty declares, ‘I will send it out, and it will
enter the house of the thief and the house of him who swears
falsely by my name. It will remain in his house and destroy it,
both its timbers and its stones.’”
Since it is a HOLY book (scroll) it would probably contain some
ideas of an unearthly (previously unrevealed) nature. Its
measurement "just happens" to match the holy place of GOD's
temple, so it would probably be a holy book. And its holy
message will have a profound effect on some people, for it
obviously has some bad news:
Kiel(#2) comments: “The roll therefore symbolised the curse
which will fall upon sinners throughout the whole land,
consuming them with their houses, and thus sweeping them out of
the nation of GOD.” (In other words, Armageddon.)
A Curse by the message of a scroll (book) upon those who swears
falsely by my name ie, they must have a modicum of the Christian
life about them; don't think we've seen that yet...so maybe it
too is in our not so distant future. It could be that John's
sour stomach came from knowing many false Christians would be
cursed, though the message was holy. But it is probably NOT a
cursable offence to not believe there are revelations to come.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
Ted, revelation are you speaking of?
Blade[/shadow]
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