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#Post#: 6195--------------------------------------------------
Healing in the atonement
By: Billy Evmur Date: June 9, 2019, 7:06 am
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Matt.8:16.
And when the even was come they brought unto Him many that were
possessed with devils and He cast out the spirits with His word
and healed all that were sick.
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the
prophet saying "Himself took our infirmities and bare our
sicknesses"
#Post#: 6307--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: patrick jane Date: June 12, 2019, 5:07 am
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[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=536.msg6195#msg6195
date=1560081979]
Matt.8:16.
And when the even was come they brought unto Him many that were
possessed with devils and He cast out the spirits with His word
and healed all that were sick.
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the
prophet saying "Himself took our infirmities and bare our
sicknesses"
[/quote]Unpack that Billy.
#Post#: 6333--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: guest8 Date: June 12, 2019, 3:40 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=536.msg6307#msg6307
date=1560334042]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=536.msg6195#msg6195
date=1560081979]
Matt.8:16.
And when the even was come they brought unto Him many that were
possessed with devils and He cast out the spirits with His word
and healed all that were sick.
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the
prophet saying "Himself took our infirmities and bare our
sicknesses"
[/quote]Unpack that Billy.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Please allow me?
Mat 8:16.."When the even [color=green](Evening) was come, they
brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he
cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were
sick:"[/color]
(emphasis have been added)
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 6410--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: Billy Evmur Date: June 16, 2019, 3:54 pm
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Hi Blade
My emphasis was on "that it might be fulfilled which was spoken
by Esaias Himself took our infirmities and bare our diseases"
The question must be when did He take our infirmities and bare
our diseases?
We understand that the passage in Isaiah relates to the cross,
He bore the sins of many but here He took our infirmities and
bare our diseases.
Therefore healing is a provision of the cross.
#Post#: 6724--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: patrick jane Date: June 29, 2019, 11:28 am
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[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=536.msg6410#msg6410
date=1560718447]
Hi Blade
My emphasis was on "that it might be fulfilled which was spoken
by Esaias Himself took our infirmities and bare our diseases"
The question must be when did He take our infirmities and bare
our diseases?
We understand that the passage in Isaiah relates to the cross,
He bore the sins of many but here He took our infirmities and
bare our diseases.
Therefore healing is a provision of the cross.
[/quote]Good post.
#Post#: 6812--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: Billy Evmur Date: July 3, 2019, 8:10 pm
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I am a great fan of the Reformation, what streams of light have
flowed upon the hearts and minds of Christian men and women,
what blessings, what insights into God's grace.
The old mysticism and superstitions are gone, fled away like
cockcroaches before the light.
How simply the new day dawned, one scripture that struck home to
Luther's heart like it had been the sun coming out on a cloudy
day "the just shall live by faith"
Here he had been climbing up some stone steps on his knees as a
penance, desperate for God to bless him. "the just shall live by
faith"
It had always been in the bible.
There's plenty of stuff in the bible, we haven't barely
scratched the surface.
Suppose God had said "the sick shall be healed by faith?"
Faith in what? faith in God's word, that's how we got saved
wasn't it. We heard that Jesus had borne our sins in His own
body on the tree, we heard about being born again, filled with
the Holy Spirit. And we saw that these things were written in
scripture.
We can only have faith by hearing God say a thing, maybe not
audibly but if we understand from the scripture that God has
said a thing then we can have faith that this is God's will for
us.
God's will and God's word are the same, if you want to know
God's will concerning a matter read His word.
Look at Jesus, He came down not to do His own will but to do the
will of the Father.
What did He do? Did He pardon sins? that's God's will, did He
turn anyone away?
did he heal any who were sick? that's God's will … did He
tell anyone to go and bear their sickness for God's glory?
For this purpose was the Son of God made manifest that He might
destroy the works of the devil. And He healed them all.
#Post#: 6814--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: guest8 Date: July 3, 2019, 8:37 pm
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[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=536.msg6812#msg6812
date=1562202611]
I am a great fan of the Reformation, what streams of light have
flowed upon the hearts and minds of Christian men and women,
what blessings, what insights into God's grace.
The old mysticism and superstitions are gone, fled away like
cockcroaches before the light.
How simply the new day dawned, one scripture that struck home to
Luther's heart like it had been the sun coming out on a cloudy
day "the just shall live by faith"
Here he had been climbing up some stone steps on his knees as a
penance, desperate for God to bless him. "the just shall live by
faith"
It had always been in the bible.
There's plenty of stuff in the bible, we haven't barely
scratched the surface.
Suppose God had said "the sick shall be healed by faith?"
Faith in what? faith in God's word, that's how we got saved
wasn't it. We heard that Jesus had borne our sins in His own
body on the tree, we heard about being born again, filled with
the Holy Spirit. And we saw that these things were written in
scripture.
We can only have faith by hearing God say a thing, maybe not
audibly but if we understand from the scripture that God has
said a thing then we can have faith that this is God's will for
us.
God's will and God's word are the same, if you want to know
God's will concerning a matter read His word.
Look at Jesus, He came down not to do His own will but to do the
will of the Father.
What did He do? Did He pardon sins? that's God's will, did He
turn anyone away?
did he heal any who were sick? that's God's will … did He tell
anyone to go and bear their sickness for God's glory?
For this purpose was the Son of God made manifest that He might
destroy the works of the devil. And He healed them all.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]There have been many of people who have been
healed through the WORD of GOD. Glory to Jesus Christ
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 6824--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: Billy Evmur Date: July 4, 2019, 5:19 am
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=536.msg6814#msg6814
date=1562204247]
[quote author=Billy Evmur link=topic=536.msg6812#msg6812
date=1562202611]
I am a great fan of the Reformation, what streams of light have
flowed upon the hearts and minds of Christian men and women,
what blessings, what insights into God's grace.
The old mysticism and superstitions are gone, fled away like
cockcroaches before the light.
How simply the new day dawned, one scripture that struck home to
Luther's heart like it had been the sun coming out on a cloudy
day "the just shall live by faith"
Here he had been climbing up some stone steps on his knees as a
penance, desperate for God to bless him. "the just shall live by
faith"
It had always been in the bible.
There's plenty of stuff in the bible, we haven't barely
scratched the surface.
Suppose God had said "the sick shall be healed by faith?"
Faith in what? faith in God's word, that's how we got saved
wasn't it. We heard that Jesus had borne our sins in His own
body on the tree, we heard about being born again, filled with
the Holy Spirit. And we saw that these things were written in
scripture.
We can only have faith by hearing God say a thing, maybe not
audibly but if we understand from the scripture that God has
said a thing then we can have faith that this is God's will for
us.
God's will and God's word are the same, if you want to know
God's will concerning a matter read His word.
Look at Jesus, He came down not to do His own will but to do the
will of the Father.
What did He do? Did He pardon sins? that's God's will, did He
turn anyone away?
did he heal any who were sick? that's God's will … did He tell
anyone to go and bear their sickness for God's glory?
For this purpose was the Son of God made manifest that He might
destroy the works of the devil. And He healed them all.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]There have been many of people who have been
healed through the WORD of GOD. Glory to Jesus Christ
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
as soon as you say many have been healed you throw up all kinds
of questions, yes glory to Jesus, healings in the bible always
brought glory to God, nobody thought having leprosy was a
blessing.
You could say many have been saved through the WORD of GOD
Who were saved through the WORD of GOD? the answer is as many as
came to Him for salvation, as many as did receive Him to them
gave He power to become the sons of God. He turned nobody away.
Suppose He had turned some away … it's unthinkable isn't it,
that anyone who would listen carefully to the gospel and who
would truly want to be saved and who would come to Jesus to be
saved would be turned away. No evangelical of whatever shade or
stripe they are can bear such a proposal.
Who were healed through the WORD of God? the answer is the same,
as many as came to Him for healing, He turned nobody away.
You have to be SURE that God wants to save you, hearing or
reading God's word will bring that assurance
You have to be SURE that God wants to heal you, hearing or
reading God's word should bring you that assurance.
God's will and God's word are the same "Lord if Thou wilt Thou
canst make me clean … I will, be thou clean"
That is God's will.
#Post#: 6980--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: patrick jane Date: July 11, 2019, 6:02 am
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#Post#: 16078--------------------------------------------------
Re: Healing in the atonement
By: patrick jane Date: August 12, 2020, 7:15 am
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Billy rocks
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