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       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: patrick jane Date: January 31, 2019, 7:34 am
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       Fallen Angels Taught Abortion (It's Demonic, Pagan, and
       Luciferian)
       Fallen Angels Taught Abortion (It's Demonic, Pagan, and
       Luciferian)
       New York Abortion Law
       14 minutes
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       Re: Abortion Is Wrong - Change My Mind
       By: guest17 Date: January 31, 2019, 11:57 am
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=53.msg412#msg412
       date=1534313463]
       I’m Pro-Life | Change My Mind
       Change My Mind: Abortion.
       In a new segment called "Change My Mind", Steven Crowder takes
       to the streets to have real conversations with everyday people
       on hot button issues.
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       I was watching one of his I'm Pro Life Change My Mind videos and
       this woman actually said that unborn babies are parasites. I
       think that's probably the worst thing I've ever heard someone
       say about an unborn baby.
       Whereas scripture says: Psalm 139:13-16 For you formed my inward
       parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise
       you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your
       works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from
       you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the
       depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in
       your book were written, every one of them, the days that were
       formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.
       Psalm 127:3 Behold, children are a gift of the LORD, The fruit
       of the womb is a reward.
       #Post#: 3585--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: guest17 Date: January 31, 2019, 12:15 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=53.msg3577#msg3577
       date=1548941670]
       Fallen Angels Taught Abortion (It's Demonic, Pagan, and
       Luciferian)
       Fallen Angels Taught Abortion (It's Demonic, Pagan, and
       Luciferian)
       New York Abortion Law
       14 minutes
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       The Luciferians/Satanists want to influence and change the way
       people view abortions to be more in line with the way they think
       and what they practice when it comes to unborn babies and even
       babies at full term and unfortunately they are succeeding in
       doing that. People who support abortions really need to educate
       themselves about this because I don't think they would want to
       align themselves with Luciferians/Satanists. But that's what
       they're doing although they would deny that.
       #Post#: 3660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: patrick jane Date: February 3, 2019, 3:49 am
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       REBUTTAL: The Left's EVIL Infanticide Agenda! | Louder With
       Crowder
       Steven thoroughly dissects the Democrats' evil push for abortion
       and infanticide. Brace yourselves for the truth.
       15 minutes
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       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: guest8 Date: February 4, 2019, 7:45 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=53.msg3660#msg3660
       date=1549187346]
       REBUTTAL: The Left's EVIL Infanticide Agenda! | Louder With
       Crowder
       Steven thoroughly dissects the Democrats' evil push for abortion
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       Everything just got worse....Now in at least two cities, one can
       deliver the Baby and then decide if you need to keep it even if
       it does not have problems. They can abort the baby and the
       mother is dilated.
       SO SAD.....
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       #Post#: 3743--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: patrick jane Date: February 7, 2019, 5:46 am
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       Ashton Kutcher’s Pro-Life Post Gets 6 MILLION VIEWS In Response
       To NY Abortion Law
       Frank Stevens, a man with Downs Syndrome speaks to Congress -
       Very Touching
       7 minutes
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       #Post#: 4311--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: patrick jane Date: March 7, 2019, 8:56 am
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       I'm Pro-Life (3rd Edition) | Change My Mind
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       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: patrick jane Date: March 19, 2019, 12:26 am
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       I'm Pro-Life (4th Edition) | Change My Mind
       Steven Crowder visits a college campus to have real
       conversations with everyday people on hot-button issues. In this
       installment, he addresses the ever-controversial topic of
       abortion.
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       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: patrick jane Date: May 2, 2019, 4:42 pm
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       New HHS Rule Protects Pro-Life Health Care Workers
       UPDATE: Under Trump, federal policy keeps shifting away from
       abortion rights in favor of religious conscience protections.
       
       Update (May 2): A year after establishing a new division to
       safeguard health care workers’ freedom of religion and freedom
       of conscience, the Trump Administration has formalized
       protections for those who decline to participate in certain
       medical treatments like abortion, sterilization, or assisted
       suicide due to their faith or moral convictions.
       The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) proposed the
       new rule last January (see below) and issued a final version in
       a 440-page document on Thursday. The policy is meant to provide
       stronger protections and more guidance around enforcing
       conscience protections passed by Congress, according to HHS.
       “This rule ensures that healthcare entities and professionals
       won’t be bullied out of the health care field because they
       decline to participate in actions that violate their conscience,
       including the taking of human life,” said Roger Severino,
       director of the HHS Office of Civil Rights and former legal
       council with the religious liberty group Becket Fund.
       “Protecting conscience and religious freedom not only fosters
       greater diversity in healthcare, it’s the law.”
       This updated policy represents a major religious freedom
       victory, particularly for pro-life evangelicals who fear being
       forced to violate their conscience on the issue of abortion.
       In a Barna Group survey released last month, the issue of
       “religious hospitals being required to perform abortions and
       other services they deem to violate their religious convictions”
       was US faith leaders’ top religious freedom concern (71% deeming
       it a “major or extreme” threat). A majority also worried about
       “religious organizations being required to provide healthcare
       options they object to” (64%) and “religious owners of
       businesses being required to provide healthcare options they
       object to” (61%).
       -----
       Original post (“New HHS Division Defends Pro-Life Health Care
       Workers,” January 18, 2018): Ahead of Friday’s annual March for
       Life, pro-life Christians celebrated new federal protections for
       health care workers who decline to administer procedures such as
       abortion, sterilization, or euthanasia on religious or moral
       grounds.
       The Trump administration announced a new division of the
       Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) dedicated to
       hearing complaints from those who face discrimination for
       refusal to accommodate services that violate their beliefs.
       The new Conscience and Religious Freedom Division of the
       existing Office of Civil Rights (OCR) enforces existing laws
       designed to protect conscience rights, including new provisions
       under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) that specifically allow
       providers and insurers to decline abortions and assisted
       suicide.
       Thursday’s announcement continues the administration’s efforts
       to beef up federal protections for religious liberty, as
       President Trump laid out in a May 2017 executive order. In
       contrast, the Obama administration had rescinded conscience
       protections for health care workers, despite pushback from
       religious leaders.
       “President Trump promised the American people that his
       administration would vigorously uphold the rights of conscience
       and religious freedom,” said acting HHS secretary Eric Hargan.
       “That promise is being kept today. The Founding Fathers knew
       that a nation that respects conscience rights is more diverse
       and more free, and OCR’s new division will help make that vision
       a reality.”
       Evangelicals fighting for religious liberty have tried to resist
       efforts to confine expressions of faith to within church walls,
       and have pushed for greater protections for their beliefs in the
       workplace and public life—particularly when it comes to
       increasingly unpopular ones around LGBT and life issues.
       “It’s not the ability to have a religion and practice it in your
       house of worship; it’s the ability to have a faith and practice
       your faith wherever you are,” said Sen. James Lankford, a
       Baptist from Oklahoma who introduced a 2017 bill defending
       conscience protections.
       “There is a long tradition of providing this
       protection—especially in the abortion context—and that tradition
       was, until very recently, a bipartisan one,” according to
       Richard W. Garnett, professor at Notre Dame Law School.
       “To me, there should be nothing particularly surprising or
       troubling about an administration—this one or any other—deciding
       that the civil rights [office] should allocate resources to make
       those protections meaningful.”
       OCR is already tasked with enforcing several nondiscrimination
       and conscience protection statutes, including the Church,
       Coats-Snowe, and Weldon amendments. But the new division
       indicates that such cases will take greater priority under
       Trump.
       “Unlike the administration’s useless gestures around the Johnson
       Amendment, these regulations signal meaningful enforcement of
       existing protections for religious liberty,” said John Inazu, a
       law professor at Washington University and a First Amendment
       expert.
       “But it’s important to remember that this emphasis is merely
       executive branch policy that can—and in all likelihood, will—be
       narrowed or reversed by a subsequent administration.”
       Already, the conscience division has drawn criticism from civil
       groups concerned that the protections will be used as a license
       to discriminate, particularly against gay or transgender
       patients, as well as from abortion rights groups.
       Everett Piper—the president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University,
       which sued the federal government over the ACA birth control
       mandate—and Montse Alvarado—executive director of Becket, a
       leading religious liberty law firm which represented the Little
       Sisters of the Poor in their contraceptive fight—spoke at the
       HHS announcement and applauded the new office, as did Jewish and
       Muslim representatives.
       “I just want to say how good it is to be here thanking [HHS and
       OCR] rather than suing them,” Piper quipped.
       Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s
       Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, also applauded the
       move.
       “I am thankful that HHS recognizes how imperiled conscience
       rights have been in recent years in this arena, and is actively
       working and leading to turn the tide in the other direction,” he
       said in a statement. “Health care professionals should be freed
       up to care for the bodies and minds of their patients, not tied
       up by having their own consciences bound.”
       In recent years, Christian pharmacists have fought in court for
       their right to decline to dispense emergency contraception. A
       2015 case in Washington ruled against pharmacists who refused to
       carry the drugs; however, state law allows that “an individual
       pharmacist with religious objections may refuse to fill the
       prescription if another pharmacist working for the pharmacy does
       so.”
       Prior to the new division, the Trump administration had
       appointed multiple pro-life advocates to positions of leadership
       within HHS, including former Americans United for Life president
       Charmaine Yoest and former National Right to Life lobbyist
       Teresa Manning, who reportedly stepped down last week.
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       Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
       By: guest8 Date: May 2, 2019, 7:56 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=53.msg5346#msg5346
       date=1556833333]
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       New HHS Rule Protects Pro-Life Health Care Workers
       UPDATE: Under Trump, federal policy keeps shifting away from
       abortion rights in favor of religious conscience protections.
       
       Update (May 2): A year after establishing a new division to
       safeguard health care workers’ freedom of religion and freedom
       of conscience, the Trump Administration has formalized
       protections for those who decline to participate in certain
       medical treatments like abortion, sterilization, or assisted
       suicide due to their faith or moral convictions.
       The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) proposed the
       new rule last January (see below) and issued a final version in
       a 440-page document on Thursday. The policy is meant to provide
       stronger protections and more guidance around enforcing
       conscience protections passed by Congress, according to HHS.
       “This rule ensures that healthcare entities and professionals
       won’t be bullied out of the health care field because they
       decline to participate in actions that violate their conscience,
       including the taking of human life,” said Roger Severino,
       director of the HHS Office of Civil Rights and former legal
       council with the religious liberty group Becket Fund.
       “Protecting conscience and religious freedom not only fosters
       greater diversity in healthcare, it’s the law.”
       This updated policy represents a major religious freedom
       victory, particularly for pro-life evangelicals who fear being
       forced to violate their conscience on the issue of abortion.
       In a Barna Group survey released last month, the issue of
       “religious hospitals being required to perform abortions and
       other services they deem to violate their religious convictions”
       was US faith leaders’ top religious freedom concern (71% deeming
       it a “major or extreme” threat). A majority also worried about
       “religious organizations being required to provide healthcare
       options they object to” (64%) and “religious owners of
       businesses being required to provide healthcare options they
       object to” (61%).
       -----
       Original post (“New HHS Division Defends Pro-Life Health Care
       Workers,” January 18, 2018): Ahead of Friday’s annual March for
       Life, pro-life Christians celebrated new federal protections for
       health care workers who decline to administer procedures such as
       abortion, sterilization, or euthanasia on religious or moral
       grounds.
       The Trump administration announced a new division of the
       Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) dedicated to
       hearing complaints from those who face discrimination for
       refusal to accommodate services that violate their beliefs.
       The new Conscience and Religious Freedom Division of the
       existing Office of Civil Rights (OCR) enforces existing laws
       designed to protect conscience rights, including new provisions
       under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) that specifically allow
       providers and insurers to decline abortions and assisted
       suicide.
       Thursday’s announcement continues the administration’s efforts
       to beef up federal protections for religious liberty, as
       President Trump laid out in a May 2017 executive order. In
       contrast, the Obama administration had rescinded conscience
       protections for health care workers, despite pushback from
       religious leaders.
       “President Trump promised the American people that his
       administration would vigorously uphold the rights of conscience
       and religious freedom,” said acting HHS secretary Eric Hargan.
       “That promise is being kept today. The Founding Fathers knew
       that a nation that respects conscience rights is more diverse
       and more free, and OCR’s new division will help make that vision
       a reality.”
       Evangelicals fighting for religious liberty have tried to resist
       efforts to confine expressions of faith to within church walls,
       and have pushed for greater protections for their beliefs in the
       workplace and public life—particularly when it comes to
       increasingly unpopular ones around LGBT and life issues.
       “It’s not the ability to have a religion and practice it in your
       house of worship; it’s the ability to have a faith and practice
       your faith wherever you are,” said Sen. James Lankford, a
       Baptist from Oklahoma who introduced a 2017 bill defending
       conscience protections.
       “There is a long tradition of providing this
       protection—especially in the abortion context—and that tradition
       was, until very recently, a bipartisan one,” according to
       Richard W. Garnett, professor at Notre Dame Law School.
       “To me, there should be nothing particularly surprising or
       troubling about an administration—this one or any other—deciding
       that the civil rights [office] should allocate resources to make
       those protections meaningful.”
       OCR is already tasked with enforcing several nondiscrimination
       and conscience protection statutes, including the Church,
       Coats-Snowe, and Weldon amendments. But the new division
       indicates that such cases will take greater priority under
       Trump.
       “Unlike the administration’s useless gestures around the Johnson
       Amendment, these regulations signal meaningful enforcement of
       existing protections for religious liberty,” said John Inazu, a
       law professor at Washington University and a First Amendment
       expert.
       “But it’s important to remember that this emphasis is merely
       executive branch policy that can—and in all likelihood, will—be
       narrowed or reversed by a subsequent administration.”
       Already, the conscience division has drawn criticism from civil
       groups concerned that the protections will be used as a license
       to discriminate, particularly against gay or transgender
       patients, as well as from abortion rights groups.
       Everett Piper—the president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University,
       which sued the federal government over the ACA birth control
       mandate—and Montse Alvarado—executive director of Becket, a
       leading religious liberty law firm which represented the Little
       Sisters of the Poor in their contraceptive fight—spoke at the
       HHS announcement and applauded the new office, as did Jewish and
       Muslim representatives.
       “I just want to say how good it is to be here thanking [HHS and
       OCR] rather than suing them,” Piper quipped.
       Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s
       Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, also applauded the
       move.
       “I am thankful that HHS recognizes how imperiled conscience
       rights have been in recent years in this arena, and is actively
       working and leading to turn the tide in the other direction,” he
       said in a statement. “Health care professionals should be freed
       up to care for the bodies and minds of their patients, not tied
       up by having their own consciences bound.”
       In recent years, Christian pharmacists have fought in court for
       their right to decline to dispense emergency contraception. A
       2015 case in Washington ruled against pharmacists who refused to
       carry the drugs; however, state law allows that “an individual
       pharmacist with religious objections may refuse to fill the
       prescription if another pharmacist working for the pharmacy does
       so.”
       Prior to the new division, the Trump administration had
       appointed multiple pro-life advocates to positions of leadership
       within HHS, including former Americans United for Life president
       Charmaine Yoest and former National Right to Life lobbyist
       Teresa Manning, who reportedly stepped down last week.
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