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Abortion Is Murder
By: patrick jane Date: August 14, 2018, 10:20 pm
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I'm putting abortion in Theology because I don't want to argue
politics and parties but the ethics, morality etc. and the
problem strikes at the core of our humanity. I believe life
begins at conception and aborting at any time, no matter how
early, is the same as murder.
I believe that at conception a new life begins and starts to
grow. To knowingly and intentionally end that life or remove
that life is murder and should be outlawed worldwide starting in
America.
I'm open to hear reasons why I should change my mind.
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Re: Abortion Is Wrong - Change My Mind
By: patrick jane Date: August 15, 2018, 12:20 am
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Re: Abortion Is Wrong - Change My Mind
By: patrick jane Date: August 15, 2018, 1:11 am
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I’m Pro-Life | Change My Mind
Change My Mind: Abortion.
In a new segment called "Change My Mind", Steven Crowder takes
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Re: Abortion Is Wrong - Change My Mind
By: guest8 Date: August 15, 2018, 8:54 pm
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We all know how a New Life ( a baby) is started...
But DO we really know?
At conception, an egg from the woman is sent down the fallopian
tube from one of her two ovaries. There in the Uterus it sits
awaiting its opportunity to be
fertilized by a male spermatozoa.Out of the millions in healthy
male only one sperm will be lucky enough to find it way into the
egg. When this happens, the eggs outer layer immediately hardens
to prevent others from getting in.
The above story is common in all mammals on earth. That does not
make it any less of a Miracle from GOD!
The Egg now has 46 pairs of Chromosomes. 23 pair from each
parent. These contain all the programs necessary to determine
male or female, the color of hair, the color of eye, skin tone,
etc. The DNA, the software that determines what each human being
becomes was written when Adam and EVE were created.
The Egg begins to split. This splitting divided the egg the
first time into two eggs. When the egg splits it copies
everything thing contain within. Therefore each each egg has the
exact same information as the original egg.
As time goes on, the eggs(s) have duplicated to a point that
they begin to separate into categories. These categories include
the skin, the hair, Bones. heart, brain, eyeballs, liver,
spleen and all other organs of the Body. Yes, also the
reproductive organs as well. These cells instead of the eggs
contain the life's information for THIS HUMAN BEING!
What tells the cell to join a specific category and what decides
the category it is to join... Is it in the DNA or is it by the
Hand of GOD?
Once the cells have separated, they somehow JOIN each other is
an intricate maze of nerves, veins, arteries, capillaries, heart
valves, etc.etc. etc.....
How do cells do this.. Is it written into the DNA Code or is it
by the Hand of GOD?
As all cells continue to replicate themselves, the body of the
fetus becomes a little more noticeable. In fact, the first
trimester, the sex can be determined.
The first trimester, 1-12 weeks, Heart is beating. Is the Baby
ALIVE?
The Second-trimester, 13-28 weeks, Baby's sucking motion and
their first bowel movement, can hear & swallow: Is the Baby
Alive?
The third-Trimester : 29-40 weeks.- eyes opening and closing,
lungs, bones and other organs fully formed, Is the Baby
Alive.....?
At up to 20 weeks, abortions are performed on living babies. If
they can hear, their brain is working.Their heart is working,
their Brain is working as the nerviest system and the Brain
controls all the body.
Notice that the heart is working in the first trimester where
most abortions are performed.
65,000,000 babies have been killed through abortion since ROE
vs WADE.
Even in ancient times, abortion was illegal. As the prosperity
of a nation was dependent on its Birthrate.
Blade
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Re: Abortion Is Wrong - Change My Mind
By: joechan82 Date: August 16, 2018, 11:07 am
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=53.msg433#msg433
date=1534384466]
We all know how a New Life ( a baby) is started...
But DO we really know?
At conception, an egg from the woman is sent down the fallopian
tube from one of her two ovaries. There in the Uterus it sits
awaiting its opportunity to be
fertilized by a male spermatozoa.Out of the millions in healthy
male only one sperm will be lucky enough to find it way into the
egg. When this happens, the eggs outer layer immediately hardens
to prevent others from getting in.
The above story is common in all mammals on earth. That does not
make it any less of a Miracle from GOD!
The Egg now has 46 pairs of Chromosomes. 23 pair from each
parent. These contain all the programs necessary to determine
male or female, the color of hair, the color of eye, skin tone,
etc. The DNA, the software that determines what each human being
becomes was written when Adam and EVE were created.
The Egg begins to split. This splitting divided the egg the
first time into two eggs. When the egg splits it copies
everything thing contain within. Therefore each each egg has the
exact same information as the original egg.
As time goes on, the eggs(s) have duplicated to a point that
they begin to separate into categories. These categories include
the skin, the hair, Bones. heart, brain, eyeballs, liver,
spleen and all other organs of the Body. Yes, also the
reproductive organs as well. These cells instead of the eggs
contain the life's information for THIS HUMAN BEING!
What tells the cell to join a specific category and what decides
the category it is to join... Is it in the DNA or is it by the
Hand of GOD?
Once the cells have separated, they somehow JOIN each other is
an intricate maze of nerves, veins, arteries, capillaries, heart
valves, etc.etc. etc.....
How do cells do this.. Is it written into the DNA Code or is it
by the Hand of GOD?
As all cells continue to replicate themselves, the body of the
fetus becomes a little more noticeable. In fact, the first
trimester, the sex can be determined.
The first trimester, 1-12 weeks, Heart is beating. Is the Baby
ALIVE?
The Second-trimester, 13-28 weeks, Baby's sucking motion and
their first bowel movement, can hear & swallow: Is the Baby
Alive?
The third-Trimester : 29-40 weeks.- eyes opening and closing,
lungs, bones and other organs fully formed, Is the Baby
Alive.....?
At up to 20 weeks, abortions are performed on living babies. If
they can hear, their brain is working.Their heart is working,
their Brain is working as the nerviest system and the Brain
controls all the body.
Notice that the heart is working in the first trimester where
most abortions are performed.
65,000,000 babies have been killed through abortion since ROE
vs WADE.
Even in ancient times, abortion was illegal. As the prosperity
of a nation was dependent on its Birthrate.
Blade
[/quote]
Well done, Blade! The miracle of birth explained. Add to your
description that unlike mammals, humans are a living soul
contained within that body, and we see that God and only God
could possibly do all that. Again, well done, my man!
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
By: guest8 Date: August 16, 2018, 10:13 pm
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For those people who don't know how to respond for the many
reasons given by Mothers wanting an abortion. Here is the
answer!
Most of the reasons for abortions can be narrowed down to one.
"the fetus is dehumanized".
Its easy to get rid of something that is not human. However,
this opens up a counter argument that can be used with any of
the reasons presented.
The TODDLER EFFECT!
I am sure you have heard this before:
Complaint: Its my body and I can't be tied down right now.
Reply: I have a toddler here who has a mother that say she
cannot be tied down right now... It is ok to go ahead and let
her kill the Toddler?
Complaint: If I keep this baby, I will not be able to feed it or
anything?
Reply: I have a Toddler whose mother cannot afford to feed it.
It is Ok to let the Mother kill the Toddler to solve this
problem?
Complaint: My boyfriend does not want any kids running around.
Reply: I have a Toddler whose mother has a boyfriend who does
not like or want kids around him. It is OK to let the Mother
kill the toddler in this case?
BUT you are talking about a Toddler and I am talking about a
unborn Baby that I do not want.
I have a Toddler whose mother wants to get rid of it because it
is in her opinion not human and she does not want it. It is OK
for the MOTHER to Kill the Toddler? YES?
As you can see, this approach humanizes the Baby. Just remember,
they will give all kind of excuses, scenarios, causes, etc.
Stay with the Toddler approach and it will work... Humanize that
unborn Baby!
Blade
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
By: patrick jane Date: August 28, 2018, 1:41 am
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Dr. Levatino Destroys Abortion in 2 Minutes
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
By: patrick jane Date: August 28, 2018, 6:15 am
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Doctor Who Did 1,200 Abortions Tells Congress to Ban Them
Dr. Anthony Levatino is a pro-life physician from New Mexico
but, before having a change of heart on the issue of abortion he
was an OBGYN who also performed abortions. Levatino did as many
as 1,200 abortions — some of them after 20 weeks of pregnancy.
Then, after his daughter died in a tragic automobile accident,
he re-evaluated his position on abortion and stopped doing
abortions. Today, Dr. Levatino told members of a Congressional
committee that they should support a bill sponsored by Rep.
Trent Franks that would ban abortions nationwide aft 20 weeks of
pregnancy.
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
By: guest13 Date: August 28, 2018, 7:31 am
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I'm putting abortion in Theology because I don't want to argue
politics and parties but the ethics, morality etc. and the
problem strikes at the core of our humanity. I believe life
begins at conception and aborting at any time, no matter how
early, is the same as murder. [/quote]
As an anti-abortion, pro-child femininist, my argument against
abortion is very simple:
Abortion *intentionally* kills a developing, unborn baby.
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Re: Abortion Is Murder - Change My Mind
By: patrick jane Date: August 28, 2018, 9:46 am
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I'm putting abortion in Theology because I don't want to argue
politics and parties but the ethics, morality etc. and the
problem strikes at the core of our humanity. I believe life
begins at conception and aborting at any time, no matter how
early, is the same as murder. [/quote]
As an anti-abortion, pro-child femininist, my argument against
abortion is very simple:
Abortion *intentionally* kills a developing, unborn baby.
[/quote]Very true and I feel that we need to be vocal and put
out the truth as much as possible. People and women in
particular have been duped by "society" into thinking they NEED
that choice and that freedom to rid themselves, flush their
bodies of an unwanted child, a human being with life.
I've never done my part in this travesty called Choice that is
murder to be sure. In all that I post covering a wide range of
subjects I have always said that even if I only reach one person
and lead one person to change, to think and to act and most
importantly to be led to Christ, then I have accomplished
something, with God's help.
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