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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: katarina.todorovic Date: September 22, 2018, 9:32 am
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date=1535070621]
Are We Under Any Covenants?
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When the Bible speaks of covenants in the specific sense, it is
speaking of the covenants given to God’s chosen nation Israel.
No one today in the dispensation of Grace is a partaker of the
covenants which are made between Israel and God.
Hebrews 8:7 speaks of the first covenant and the second covenant
given to Israel. The first covenant describes the Law as given
to Israel at Horeb:
“The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.” –
Deuteronomy 5:2
The second covenant, or ‘better covenant’, is the ‘new covenant’
also given to Israel (Heb 8:13, 12:24).
“For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of
Israel after those days, saith the Lord;…” – Hebrews 8:10
And again in Jeremiah:
“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new
covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:”
– Jeremiah 31:31
Knowing that the covenants were given to Israel and Judah, Paul
stated concerning his brethren according to the flesh, Israel,
“…to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the
covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God,
and the promises;…” Romans 9:4
Gentiles and the Body of Christ
The covenants were between God and Israel regarding their future
redemption as spoken of by the prophets since the world began.
However, Gentiles in time past as well as those in the body of
Christ today are not a part of the covenants.
Paul says,
“That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the
commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of
promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:” –
Ephesians 2:12
In order for a Gentile in time past to get the blessings of God
they had to follow the provisions of the covenant. (See “Did
Gentiles in the Old Testament get saved?” for more.) However,
they were estranged from the covenants given to Israel.
During the dispensation of Grace, believers receive the benefits
of the redemptive work of Christ on the cross outside of any
covenant relationship. It was purely by God’s grace that we
receive eternal life and the blessings associated with
salvation. Otherwise grace would not be grace (Romans 11:6).
Today there is neither Jew nor Gentile. There is no special
status before God for any nation today.
“For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have
mercy upon all.” – Romans 11:32
Instead of a covenant providing the necessary terms of
redemption, believers today are of the same body and partakers
of the promise in Christ by the gospel of the grace of God (Eph
3:6, Titus 1:2-3). We receive the mercy and the grace of God
apart from our adherence to any covenant given in time past, we
receive it by faith (Romans 5:1, 8-10).
-Written in Their Hearts
-I Am Not a New Testament Christian
-30 Reasons We do not Operate Under the New Testament
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-A Strange Teaching on the New Testament
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I do believe that Torah is FOREVER as long as it is applicable
(there is no temple, no levitical order, no need for sacrifice
after Yeshua that unblameshed lamb was a perfect sacrfice) so:
Here are just a small percentage of scriptures that clearly
state that the law is forever.
Exodus 12:14
And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep
it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall
keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
Exodus 12:17
And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this
selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of
Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations
by an ordinance for ever.
Exodus 12:24
And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to
thy sons for ever.
Exodus 31:17
It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for
in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh
day he rested, and was refreshed.
Leviticus 16:29
And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the
seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict
your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own
country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:
Leviticus 16:31
It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict
your souls, by a statute for ever.
Leviticus 23:21
And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an
holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein:
it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout
your generations.
Leviticus 23:31
Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever
throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
2 Chronicles 2:4
Behold, I build an house to the name of the LORD my God, to
dedicate it to him, and to burn before him sweet incense, and
for the continual shewbread, and for the burnt offerings morning
and evening, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the
solemn feasts of the LORD our God. This is an ordinance for ever
to Israel.
Psalm 119:159-160
Consider how I love thy precepts: quicken me, O LORD, according
to thy lovingkindness. Thy word is true from the beginning: and
every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever
Deuteronomy 5:29
O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear
me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well
with them, and with their children for ever!
Deuteronomy 11:1
Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge,
and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments,
alway.
Leviticus 10:15
The heave shoulder and the wave breast shall they bring with the
offerings made by fire of the fat, to wave it for a wave
offering before the LORD; and it shall be thine, and thy sons'
with thee, by a statute for ever; as the LORD hath commanded.
And continued in:
Isaiah 56
Salvation for All Nations
1Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my
salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that
layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it,
and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself
to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me
from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry
tree.
4For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths,
and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my
covenant;
5Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a
place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will
give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the
LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his
servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it,
and taketh hold of my covenant;
7...for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all
people.
8The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet
will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto
him
Isaiah 58:13-14
13If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy
pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the
holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing
thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking
thine own words:
14Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause
thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee
with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD
hath spoken it.
Isaiah 64:5
5Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness,
those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth;
for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be
saved.
...and
...
"And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will
answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear" - Isaiah
65:24
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: patrick jane Date: September 28, 2018, 5:33 pm
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Does Romans 2:28-29 Teach A Spiritual Israel?
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Romans 2:28-29 is one of the more popular passages used to teach
that true Israel is not the physical nation but any who has the
spirit of God. This type of interpretation refers to the church
today as spiritual Israel. This spiritualization of Israel
diminishes the authority of the scripture and denies the natural
reading as explained in ‘Does the Bible Teach a Spiritualized
Israel’.
Though it may be desirous to try and usurp some of Israel’s
prophecies or promises, the natural reading of Romans
2:28-29does not teach that the church today, where there is
neither Jew nor Gentile, is spiritual Israel.
We can determine this first by establishing who the passage is
addressing.
‘Thou Art Called a Jew’
“Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and
makest thy boast of God” – Romans 2:17
Romans 2:17 indicates the audience of the passage as those that
are called Jews. He continues in the next three verses speaking
about how the Jews were given the wisdom of the law.
So then, he that is called a Jew is the same who was given the
oracles of God and was given the promises, covenants, and
service of God (Romans 3:2, 9:4). The target audience of the
passage is physical Israel, those of the house of Jacob.
The Name of God Blasphemed
“Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law
dishonourest thou God? For the name of God is blasphemed among
the Gentiles through you, as it is written” – Romans 2:23-24
As we continue through the passage we see that Paul starts to
address a problem with his blessed nation Israel. Israel makes
their boast in the law, but they fail to do the law. Israel the
people named after God, have become as vain as the Gentiles
given up by God in Romans 1 (Romans 1:24,26,28).
The Issue of Circumcision
“For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if
thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made
uncircumcision. “ – Romans 2:25
When God gave the covenant to Abraham, he instituted
circumcision as the token that Israel was keeping the covenant
(Genesis 17:10-14). If they break the law then the token of
keeping it is made worthless. The circumcision sign is made
vanity and just as if they were uncircumcised.
“Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the
law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil
the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost
transgress the law?” – Romans 2:26-27
Keep in mind that Israel was given a prophetic position to teach
and to judge the nations (uncircumcision), because they were
given the promises and the covenant and the law (Romans 9:4,
Isaiah 61:6).
However, Paul notices that if Israel behaves like the nations,
and the nations walk in righteousness, the nations should judge
Israel! Since Israel was blaspheming the name of God by boasting
in the law while breaking it, Paul places Israel in their proper
place.
He suggests that the nations who kept the righteousness of the
law, though being uncircumcised and strangers from the
covenants, should be the judge of unrighteous Israel who
blasphemed God through their disobedience of the law while
carrying the token of obedience in circumcision.
Who’s a Jew?
As we finally reach the verses used to teach a spiritual Israel
we should recognize that so far Paul has been talking about the
physical nation Israel and their failure to keep the law.
Also, we should realize that no Gentile nation has kept the law
either. For the nations were given up by God as being reprobate
in chapter 1. This is the very reason God called Abraham out
from among the Gentiles, because the Gentiles were already in
disobedience.
“For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that
circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: “ – Romans 2:28
Here Paul references the true meaning of the circumcision found
in the law to describe who is truly a Jew, worthy of the token
of the covenant.
“Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more
stiffnecked” – Deut 10:16
A Jew obedient to the covenant, worthy of the circumcision, and
the name of God is one that circumcises the heart and obeys the
law of righteousness. Hence, the final verse.
“But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is
that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose
praise is not of men, but of God. “ – Romans 2:29
Israel was wrong to boast in the law, which is the letter, while
they were not obeying the law to circumcise their hearts in the
spirit. Therefore, though a Jew had an advantage by having the
law and the oracles of God, it became of none effect since they
were disobedient to it.
Only those circumcised Jews who were obedient to the law could
truly claim the promises inherent in the token of circumcision.
Rather than adding Gentiles to a supposed “spiritual Israel”,
Paul is here removing those dead bones from the nation Israel
from claiming righteousness based on their circumcision.
Spiritual Israel
The entire passage speaks of the physical nation of Israel, and
their disobedience to the law of Deut 10:16. In no way does it
refer to a ‘spiritual’ Israel which is not of physical Israel or
to the church today in an allegorical fashion.
Even more significant to those would be saved by God’s grace
today is the fact that the uncircumcision are reckoned
circumcision in the passage only when they keep the law!
However, Paul proves to both Jew and Gentile that they are all
under sin, and by the deeds of the law no flesh shall be
justified (Romans 3:10-20). If the Jew in Romans 2:28-29 is
spiritual Israel then the Jew in Romans 3:10 must also be
spiritual, which would place the most unnatural reading on the
passage.
Where is the Jew that is part of an alleged spiritual body of
Israel to be found in Romans 3:10 where all are found
unrighteous? Everyone on the planet is contained in this passage
which sets the foundation for the gospel of the grace of God
proclaimed in Romans 3:22-26.
Conclusion
To make the church today part of the Jew in Romans 2:28-29 would
require an ignorance of the context, prophecy concerning Israel,
as well as a disrespect for the natural reading of the word of
God.
The church today is neither a replacement for Israel, nor is
Israel an allegory for the church. Instead the church, the body
of Christ, that contains the redeemed today is labeled a ‘new
creature’ (2 Cor 5:17).
We are given the title of ambassadors for Christ, members of his
body, a title separate and distinct from the covenanted name for
the nation Israel according to prophecy.
-Does the Bible Teach A Spiritual Israel?
-By Faith and Through Faith
-Israel’s Spiritual Fall
-A Look at History With and Without Israel
-Without Israel, Without Covenants, Without the Law
-Your Circumcision is Not of the Heart
-A Dispensational New Year
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: patrick jane Date: October 7, 2018, 1:42 am
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Joint-Heirs with Christ
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By Justin Johnson
From the moment you trust in Christ, you become a member of the
body of Christ.
Like any membership, there are immediate benefits. The benefits
are given to you freely by your identification with Christ.
For example, did you know that if you were baptized into Christ
you were crucified with Him?
“I am crucified with Christ…”- Gal 2:20
A dead person has already paid the penalty of death. This is a
huge benefit, but what is more is that you are also resurrected
with Christ.
“Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also
live with him:” – Rom 6:8
Life is a great benefit. Eternal life is eternally beneficial.
The power to live after death is God’s gift to all who receive
benefits with Christ.
“For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by
the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live
with him by the power of God toward you.” – 2 Cor 13:4
Since you are receiving benefits with Christ, and Christ is
seated in heavenly places, you also inherit a position there
with him.
“Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with
Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together,
and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:” –
Ephesians 2:5-6
When Christ died and resurrected he inherited “all things” from
God (Eph 1:22), so would not you receive all things as well?
“He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us
all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?”
– Rom 8:37
Certainly. After all, you are with Christ and enjoy all the
benefits of being a member of His body (2 Cor 6:10).
“[God has] blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly
places in Christ:”- Eph 1:3
The Mystery of Fellowheirs
Perhaps you have noticed that all of these membership benefits
in Christ are found in Paul’s epistles.
This is because God revealed to Paul the mystery that by faith
in the gospel you can be fellowheirs with Christ, of the same
body of Christ, and partakers of his promise in Christ (Eph
3:6).
It’s only by being a joint-heir with Christ that we have access
to all of these immediate benefits (Rom 8:17).
Without being a joint-heir with Him according to the mystery, we
would lack a host of riches given to his sons by grace.
Without the revelation of the mystery, we would not know the
riches of the glory of His inheritance, and ours (Eph 1:18).
What do Members do?
If we have all these free benefits as joint-heirs with Christ,
then what is a member of the body to do?
Being a member of the body of Christ gives you the duty of
labouring together with him, and the opportunity to receive
rewards for proper service.
“…every man shall receive his own reward according to his own
labour. For we are labourers together with God…” – 1 Cor 3:8-9
It may be that we suffer with him, and if you do, you will reign
with him.
“If we suffer, we shall also reign with him:…” – 2 Tim 2:12
In the end, because everything we receive, whether freely or by
our labour, is a result of our being joint-heirs with Christ, we
are glorified with him.
“When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also
appear with him in glory.” – Col 3:4
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: patrick jane Date: October 18, 2018, 4:43 am
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Three Troubling Pauline Passages
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The most amazing statements on salvation by grace without works
in the entire Bible are found in Paul’s epistles. What
liberation it is for sinners to learn that God offers salvation
freely by grace through faith in the finished work of Christ
(Eph 2:8-9; Gal 5:1).
There is nothing you do to deserve or earn salvation from God.
Nevertheless, there are a few Pauline passages that repeatedly
trouble new believers as to whether their sins can negate what
God has given them by grace.
For the religious minded fruit inspectors 1 Corinthians 6:9-10,
Ephesians 5:5-6, and Galatians 5:21 become tests of salvation,
and when you fail the test one of these explanations is given:
“You were never a Christian in the first place.”
“A Christian would never do these things.”
“Faith without works is dead.”
“You need to repent and get right (again) with God.”
Not Tests of Salvations
Let’s be clear. If these three passages are talking about
conditions or qualifications for salvation then there will be no
one but Christ in the kingdom of God.
A look at the wide scope of sins mentioned in these passages
disqualifies all but the self-righteous in their own delusions.
It would also mean that your salvation by grace is not through
faith, but through your continuance in doing good works the rest
of your life. This described salvation under Israel’s covenant
relationship, but not in this dispensation of grace (Mark 13:13;
Lev 18:5).
No, these passages are not tests of salvation or membership in
the body of Christ.
Not Conditions of Inheritance
To avoid the obvious problem with making them tests of
salvation, it is sometimes suggested that these three passages
put conditions and qualifications on your inheritance,
blessings, or levels of glory in heaven.
While it is true that the work of the saints will be judged by
Christ for reward or loss, these passages can not be referring
to that either.
1 Cor 6:10 says that the unrighteous shall not inherit the
kingdom, it does not say they will not have as many rewards or
will “suffer loss” as does 1 Cor 3:15 at the judgment of the
saints.
Eph 5:5 makes it clear that those sinners do not have “any
inheritance”. It is not lesser inheritance, but any inheritance
at all. This would be contrary to Eph 1:3, Eph 1:18, and Eph 3:6
that describe the saved having “all spiritual blessings”, “the
riches of the glory of this inheritance”, and as being
“fellowheirs” according to the mystery.
While these passages are surely intended to condemn wrong
thinking and actions among the saints, they cannot be referring
to believers who have been promised an inheritance by grace even
if we do suffer loss for poor workmanship at the judgment seat
of Christ.
A question remains. Why is Paul warning believers about what
happens to unbelievers who are living in their flesh?
Understanding Your Position
Something often overlooked in Paul’s instructions to the saints
is the difference between our position and our condition. It has
also been referred to as our standing and state, salvation and
service.
Your salvation, standing, or position in Christ is received by
grace through faith. This new position in the body of Christ has
changed your identity, that is, who you are.
You are no longer a sinner, but a saint (Rom 5:19). You are no
longer in Adam, but in Christ (Rom 5:17). You are no longer a
servant of sin, but a servant of righteousness (Rom 6:17-18).
This new identity is like the job title you are given on the
first day of work. You have not done any work, but you have been
given a new identity, you sit in a new position.
What would happen if on day two in your new position you were
doing your old job and not your new one? No doubt, your boss
would remind you that you no longer hold that position, and need
to do the work becoming of your new position.
Whether or not you are operating according to the privileges,
benefits, or description of your new position is called your
condition, service, or walk. It concerns your performance in
Christ.
All three troubling passages are trying to correct the
performance, walk, or service of believers by reminding them of
who they are and who they are not.
“Remember your position. Remember who you are, not who you were.
Walk according to who you are now in Christ.”
Knowing your position will put these trouble passages in the
proper perspective. Let’s look at each one.
Trouble Passage #1) 1Corinthians 6:9-10
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom
of God? Be not deceived: neither … shall inherit the kingdom of
God.” – 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
This is very clear that the unrighteous shall not inherit the
kingdom of God. Though you had been in the position of an
unrighteous person before you were saved, you have now, after
trusting the gospel, been made the righteousness of God in
Christ by grace through faith (2 Cor 5:21).
Notice the verse right after the troubling passage which
distinguishes what the Corinthians were with what they are now
in Christ.
“ And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are
sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus,
and by the Spirit of our God. “ – 1 Corinthians 6:11
They were unrighteous, but now they are justified and
sanctified. What they were was not what they are now in Christ,
and it had nothing to do with their behavior. The reason Paul
condemns the unrighteous is that the Corinthians were acting
like them as if it were acceptable behavior in their new
position.
“Stop doing unrighteous things. That is not who you are anymore!
Those things are condemnable.”
Trouble Passage #2) Ephesians 5:5-6
“…hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let
no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things
cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.“ –
Ephesians 5:5-6
What a terrifying verse, and rightly so! Sin deserves all wrath,
and the wrath of God is revealed upon all sinners (Rom 1:18).
The question remains are you a child of disobedience or not? Is
that your title? Is that your position?
The religious minded would have you believe that if you disobey,
then that means you are a child of disobedience. That was the
case under the law, but no longer under grace. Now, you can be
justified by grace through faith in Christ without works and
without the law. This is the mystery of Christ!
Notice the verses immediately following the condemnation of the
children of disobedience.
“Be not ye therefore partakers with them.” – Ephesians 5:7
Don’t partake with them? Who are they? Not the saved Ephesians.
But why?
“For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the
Lord: walk as children of light…” – Ephesians 5:8
They were children of disobedience and darkness, but now they
arechanged. They have a new position in Christ! Every saved
member of the body of Christ is a child of light, and Paul
teaches them to walk according to their new job description
received and secured by grace without works.
“Walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called” –
Ephesians 4:1
Trouble Passage #3) Galatians 5:21
“…that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom
of God.” – Galatians 5:21
Like the previous two passages, knowing your position puts this
troubling passage in context as well.
The Galatians had received the Spirit and salvation through
faith, but they were being persuaded to walk under the law.
There is a difference between living in and walking in. There is
a difference between position and condition.
The Galatians thought the only way to avoid the condemnation of
sin after salvation was to go back under the law, but the law
brought condemnation. Paul exhorts them in the better way, “Walk
in the Spirit” (Gal 5:16).
“But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.” –
Galatians 5:18
If they were truly saved by grace through faith, then they do
not live in the flesh, but in the Spirit and not under the law.
If there is one thing we cannot be condemned for under grace, it
is the work of our flesh. The power of the law to condemn the
flesh was removed when it was crucified with Christ (Gal 2:20;
Gal 5:24; Rom 6:6; Rom 7:4).
The admonition Paul gives the Galatians in chapter 5 is found in
Gal 5:25:
“ If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.”
But how do you know if you are walking after the Spirit or after
the flesh?
They could tell whether their flesh or the Spirit was winning
the war for their walk by what comes out of them. The works of
the flesh were manifest, and are condemned by God. The fruit of
the Spirit is where there is no condemnation (Rom 8:1; Gal
5:23).
If the Galatians received the Spirit by faith, then they lived
by the Spirit. They needed to walk after the Spirit in order to
bear the fruit of the Spirit. Any attempt to walk under the law
would strengthen their condemned flesh, bring condemnation, and
manifest the condemnable works of the flesh.
Conclusion
These passages have troubled grace believers for a while and it
is time to set them at rest. They may be difficult but not
impossible. There is no reason to sacrifice the riches of God’s
grace by neglecting to remember who you are in Christ and how
you were saved.
Don’t forget who Christ made you, and how that was possible. It
is the cross of Christ that did all the work necessary for your
salvation, and the power of the resurrection of Christ that
guarantees you a heavenly place with Christ.
The response to sin for the believer is to stop living like who
you were, and start living according to who you are in Christ by
faith.
Now it is our duty to live up to the high calling we have
received freely through Him.
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: patrick jane Date: November 11, 2018, 7:11 am
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Can We Lose Our Salvation By Grace?
By Justin Johnson - Grace Ambassadors
In order for us to lose something we must have the
responsibility for keeping it secure. Otherwise, we did not lose
it, someone else did. We must be very careful as we study the
Scripture to sort the mail according to whom it was written. We
must not read into a verse what is not there, and must interpret
a verse in its proper context. This is what makes dispensational
Bible study so helpful to our understanding God’s will and
purpose.
In regards to our salvation in the dispensation of grace, we can
clearly see that we receive through Paul the message of
‘salvation by grace’. Romans is a wonderful book to illuminate
our understanding of salvation by grace in this age.
We learn in Romans 1-3 that men are desperately wicked. In fact,
Paul calls them reprobate, sinners, wicked, evil, and deserving
of anguish and God’s wrath. Every man, Jew and Gentile has
broken God’s law of righteousness and is guilty before a just
God who will judge our works in this life, whether they be good
or evil.
It is through the use of appealing to man’s conscious and the
law of God that Paul identifies every man unworthy and incapable
of obtaining righteousness through their own efforts. He
concludes in Romans 3:10 by saying, ‘There is none righteous, no
not one. There is none that understandeth, there is none that
seeketh after God.’
Since God demands perfect righteousness for salvation and
eternal life, we are all condemned to death and judgment in
hell.
However, Paul is given a special revelation from God that
explains that now we can receive righteousness and salvation
apart from the law (Gal 1:11, 12). In fact, the purpose of the
law was never to save anyone, but to show that they were guilty.
“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to
them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and
all the world may become guilty before God.” – Romans 3:19
The law was to bring the ‘knowledge of sin’. But now the
righteousness of God can only come through faith in Jesus
Christ.
“Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus
Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:” – Romans 3:22
Today, we are justified ‘freely by his grace through the
redemption that is in Christ Jesus’ (Romans 3:24).
Knowing how we obtained our salvation is crucial to
understanding whether we can lose our salvation. Paul clearly
teaches that our salvation is by faith in the righteousness of
Jesus Christ who was made to be our substitution for death, sin,
and judgment (2 Cor 5:21, Romans 3:25, Romans 3:23). Since he
paid our fine, and we trust in Christ, God can fairly declare us
righteous and give us salvation (Eph 1:13).
Trying to ‘keep’ our salvation
The reason that God sent Christ to die on the cross for our
sins, was because we could not live lives worthy of obtaining
righteousness ourselves. Why then would we think that once we
are saved, we can now live lives worthy of God’s righteous
judgment without Christ?
Paul speaks to the Galatians about this issue in Galatians 3:3
and 5:4. After having received the grace of God for salvation,
the Galatians were now trying to go back under the law to live
their lives for God. Paul says ‘Christ is become of no effect
unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are
fallen from grace.’
This seems to be a severe statement but is repeated in 1
Corinthians 1:17 to those who were debating over Paul’s baptism.
Paul replied regarding these rituals,
“For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:
not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be
made of none effect.” – I Corinthians 1:17
Paul repeatedly teaches that it is not by our own works of
righteousness that we are saved. If it were by our works then
Christ died in vain! It follows that if we are not saved by
works of righteousness then we can not lose our salvation
because of a lack of them.
Because we are saved by God’s grace, the sole responsibility for
producing the works meet for our salvation lies upon Christ and
the efficacy of his death on the cross. Our faith alone would be
of no effect for salvation only if God was not able to fulfill
that which he promised (Romans 4:21). This of course is unbelief
of the first degree!
The whole basis of our salvation is by faith in Christ’s full
payment for sins (Ephesians 2:8, Romans 3:22)!
Therefore, if we are saved by grace and then determine that we
can lose our justified status simply by not acting obediently or
following after righteousness, then we are in essence rejecting
the cross, ignoring what Christ came to do! We are also denying
our present position in our crucified flesh combating its
temptations daily.
As Paul told the Galatians, ‘Christ is become of no effect unto
you’. You would have just as much success trying to save
yourself without the cross as you would trying to stay saved
without the grace of God operating on your behalf.
This discussion will most likely bring up many other questions
that you should also find responded to on our question page.
The topic of what happens in salvation is an important topic
shrouded with confusion by the powers of darkness of this world.
If there are questions that are not answered cleary in this
article or on our question page, please submit them through our
online form.
Understanding what Christ did on the cross for you is the key to
changing your life for eternity! Without the grace of God, every
man would have no answer for God on judgment day, but would
spend eternity in the lake of fire. Don’t rest until you know
that you are saved by the grace of God and have eternity secured
through the blood of Christ.
The question should not be ‘Can we lose our salvation by grace?’
Instead it should be, ‘Am I saved by my trust in God’s grace?’
“I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come
by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”- Gal 2:21
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: patrick jane Date: November 21, 2018, 10:39 pm
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NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR?
At the Time of the End, the wise shall understand. Dan 12:10
Understanding the expression "No man knows the day or hour" is
not possible
by simply taking the English translation literally, because in
the book of
Daniel and the Book of Revelation, we are given EXACT
descriptions of
timing, relative to KEY events - such as the shutting down of
the altar
sacrifices in Jerusalem at the MID-POINT of the 70th week. Dan
9:27
Jesus was asked, "When shall these things be?" Matt 24:3
His answer ties us in to a very specific event (The Abomination
of
Desolation) which can be measured on our calendars: "When you
therefore
shall see the Abomination Of Desolation, spoken of by Daniel the
prophet,
stand in the holy place, (whoever reads, let him
understand:)..." Matt 24:15.
It is now clear that "no man knows the day or hour" does NOT
mean "no man
knows the day or hour" as we read it from a modern-day English
perspective.
>From his book "Signs In the Heavens" by Avi Ben Mordechai, he
devotes a
chapter to explaining what "no man knows the day or hour" truly
means from
a rabbinical Hebraic perspective. It is a figure of speech.
The following chapter contains edited excerpts from Avi Ben
Mordechai's
commentaries and builds on them aiming to explain that the Holy
Bible does
in fact reveal the "day and hour" or "exact timing" of our
Lord's Return.
No One Knows the Day or the Hour?
Christians over the centuries have separated themselves from
their Hebraic
roots causing the misunderstanding of key Jewish biblical
idioms. An idiom
is also a figure of speech. When Y'shua (Jesus) uttered His
famous words
concerning the Messianic Era in Mattityahu (Matthew) 24:26,
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
Heaven, nor the Son, but
only the Father", He used a common Jewish figure of speech
referring to a
specific Jewish Festival. In essence He was saying, "I am coming
for My
Bride on such and such a day! Be watching!" What day could the
Jewish idiom
be referring to? Keep reading!
HEBRAIC ROOTS
Y'shua HaMashiach (Jesus the Messiah) was Jewish and lived a
Torah-observant Jewish life. Evidence suggests that He
communicated to His
audience in the Hebrew language, in Hebraic ways. What does it
mean to
communicate in Hebraic ways?
It means to think and talk like a Jew. In Y'shua's day it meant
to speak in the language and idioms of the day.
Those who heard the Lord speak knew what He was saying and
usually what He was
alluding to unless He was speaking in parables, which had their
own
analogies. Of course, today's generation of believers struggles
to
understand His words and concepts.
Speaking, thinking and acting like the
Jewish Rabbi He was helped His mission in bringing the gospel
message to
"the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt 15:24).
Y'shua was quoted in Mattityahu (Matthew) 8:11 as saying: "I say
to you
that many will come from the east and the west, and will take
their places
at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of
Heaven".
Since we are talking about Jewish idioms, have you ever
considered the meaning of
these words? Specifically, our Lord used and confirmed common
Jewish ideas
about the Day of the Lord - the millennium - and its relation to
the Feast
of Sukkot (Tabernacles) in Z'kharyah 14.
In speaking, Y'shua referred to
the Festival and its traditional guests of honour, Avraham,
Yitzchak and
Ya'acov, called the ushpizin (uoosh-piz-zin) or seven shepherds
(exalted
guests), invited into every succah (tabernacle) at the Feast of
Sukkot in
the fall of the year.
The seven shepherds in descending order are
1. Avraham (Abraham), 2. Yitzchak (Isaac), 3. Ya'acov (Jacob),
4. Mosheh
(Moses), 5. Aaron, 6. Yosef (Joseph) and 7. HaMelech David (King
David).
By mentioning the feast and three of the seven shepherds,
His audience
immediately understood the allusion to the Messianic age -
"Millennium" or
"Day" of the Lord.
"For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost"
(Luke 19:10).
Again, in this simplistic phrase Y'shua, the Son of Miriyam and
Yosef,
spoke of two things: His Deity (by calling Himself the subject
of the
prophet Dani'el's vision) and His mission (by calling Himself
the One God
Who spoke to Mosheh on Mount Sinai) as it is written in Dani'el
and
Yechezk'el (Ezekiel):
In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was One like
a Son of
Man, coming with the clouds of Heaven. He approached the Ancient
of Days
and was led into His presence (Dani'el 7:13-14).
For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I Myself will search
for My sheep
and look after them (Yechezk'el-Ezekiel 34:11ff).
In the Gospel narrative of Luke 23:31, Y'shua said: "For if men
do these
things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?"
In this
verse Y'shua points His audience, who had portions of the
writings of the
Prophets memorized, to the verses in Yechezk'el (Ezekiel) 20:45
to 21:7.
Without question, Y'shua's hearers knew He referred to Chevlei
HaMashiach
or Ya'acov's Trouble in the Great Tribulation and warned His
audience that
what they do to Him in hardness of heart now, God will do to the
nation in
judgement later.
Y'shua's encounter with Natan'el (Nathanael) is recorded in
Yochanan (John)
1:47-48: When Jesus saw Nathanael approaching, He said of him,
"Here is a
true Israelite, in whom there is nothing false". "How do You
know me?"
Nathanael asked. Jesus answered, "I saw you while you were still
under the
fig tree before Philip called you".
Again, our Lord used a strong figure of speech pointing to a
widely taught
Jewish expectation concerning the resurrection and the
millennium. In
brief, He told Natan'el that he will be alive on the Last Day to
inherit
the land promised to Avraham (Bereshith-Genesis 17:8). From
Y'shua's words,
Natan'el understood he would participate in the resurrection
since "that
Day" was yet future.
This is understood in the first century Jewish figure
of speech, "I saw you while you were still under the fig tree",
which
refers to life and study of Torah in the millennium (Midrash
Rabbah
Genesis, Rabbah Song of Songs).
Y'shua also told Natan'el that he is like
righteous Avraham who received his reward for trusting God. This
is
understood because of the phrase, "Here is a true Israelite, in
whom there
is nothing false". The millennial concept of the fig tree is
found
throughout the Tanach including Z'kharyah 3:10:
"In that day each of you will invite his neighbor to sit under
his vine and fig tree", declares the
LORD Almighty. For this reason Natan'el responded emphatically
to Y'shua
and His words, saying: "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; You are
the King of
Israel!"
God through HaMashiach Y'shua spoke to the Jews in many portions
and in
many ways (Hebrews 1:1-2) relying upon known figures of speech,
common
expectations and direct thoughts from Talmudic and Pharisaic
teachings. The
concepts I addressed only scratch the surface, so-to-speak.
Every phrase
and word from the mouth of the Lord meant something to His
audience. He
spoke with precision. With that as a basis, let us go on to one
of the most
interesting Jewish figures of speech misunderstood by the Church
over the
years. It concerns Y'shua's phrase,
"No one knows about that day or hour,
not even the angels in Heaven, nor the Son, but only the
Father". In
context, He refers to the home-taking of His bride, the
beginning of the
Messianic era and His millennial reign as King of kings over all
the earth.
To understand this concept, we begin by examining its
foundation.
ROSH HASHANAH
Chapter Five described the annual Jewish Festival of Trumpets or
Rosh
HaShanah - the first day of the seventh month. A few themes
linked to this
Jewish festival are resurrection, repentance, kingship,
corronation and a
marriage feast.
This chapter shows another theme and convincing proof that
Rosh HaShanah is not only the start of "The Day of the Lord"
(Millennium),
but is also the day of the resurrection! It has to do with the
moon and its
29-day cycle of renewal.
In this period of slightly less than 30 days, the moon goes from
darkness
to light and back to darkness again. This is not a haphazard
occurrence
attributed to evolution or science.
God planned it for many reasons, one
being as a picture of resurrection and renewal. With each cycle
of nearly
30 days the ancient rabbis understood that the moon was being
reborn or
"born again" (Sefard siddur, Mussaf for Shabbat and Shabbat Rosh
Chodesh,
p. 509 and 646-648).
NEW MOON
In Y'shua's day, the moon was so important that a Jewish
festival was
proclaimed at the beginning of every month (Talmud Tractate
Chaggigah 17b;
Shavuot 10a; Arachin 10b). This was called the New Moon Festival
and in the
B'rit Chadashah, Rabbi Sha'ul (Paul) makes note of it
(Colossians 2:16).
Even in the Tanach, King David provoked King Sha'ul (Saul) over
it (1
Shmu'el-Samuel 20:5).
In the coming millennium the gate of the inner court
of the Temple facing east shall be opened on the new moon
(Yechezk'el-Ezekiel 46:1).
And finally in the millennium all nations will
celebrate the New Moon festival every month (Yeshayahu-Isaiah
66:23). It is
obvious from the Hebrew Scriptures that in the millennium God
has no plans
to do away with His system.
Since it is so important, exactly what is a new moon? It is the
opposite of
a full moon. Every month the moon goes through a complete cycle
of renewal
called Rosh Chodesh, the head or beginning of the renewed month.
Twelve
times a year on Rosh Chodesh, the moon always starts off with
its disk
being very dark to the naked eye.
Over the course of 15 days it gets
brighter and brighter until it finally reaches a full
white-faced disk or
full moon. Over the next 15 days it becomes darker and darker
and finally
becomes invisible to the naked eye again.
The ancient rabbis saw a great lesson in this. Just as the moon
has no
light of its own but receives its light from the sun, so we too
have no
light of our own and must receive it from God.
As the moon goes through a
near 30-day cycle of dark to light to dark, so we need constant
spiritual
renewal and repentance. Like the moon, we too must be reborn or
"born
again" into HaMashiach and constantly renewed through
repentance. This is
why God called it a faithful witness in the sky (Mizmor-Psalm
89:37).
If the moon is so important to God, why do we pay so little
attention to
it? We have lost touch with God's faithful witness in the sky.
But Y'shua
and the people of His day never lost touch with it. And as I
previously
noted, not only was the new moon necessary for the Jewish
calendar, it was
also a monthly festival celebrated with a feast fit for a king!
So, when
Y'shua said His famous words in Mattityahu-Matthew 24:36, it had
far-reaching implications. Here are the words of Y'shua in a few
different
translations:
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of
heaven, but
my Father only. (KJV)
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in
heaven, nor the
Son, but only the Father. (NIV) But of that day and hour knoweth
no one,
not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father
only. (ASV)
About the exact time, however, and the hour, none knows - not
even the
messengers of Heaven; but My Father alone. (Fenton Modern
English
Translation)
Failing to think like Y'shua and taking phrases out of Jewish
context can
lead one to misunderstand His words. For example, in many places
of the
B'rit Chadashah Y'shua knew the future and talked about it
openly. In one
instance He warned His talmidim (disciples) about their future
saying,
"See, I have told you ahead of time" (Mattityahu-Matthew 24:25).
His
context concerned the tribulation, the destruction of the
Temple, the rise
and fall of false messiahs (antichrists), etc.
If He knew the future in
Mattityahu 24:25, and the context concerns the Day of Trouble,
why would He
suddenly speak as though He did not know the future in the same
context
just 11 verses later in Mattityahu 24:36? Was He confused? Or
was He making
perfect sense in light of the customs of the Jews?
Since the subject of our discussion is the new moon and figures
of speech,
realize the phrase, "Of that day and hour no man knows" refers
to the
sanctification or setting apart of the new moon. Without this
sanctification, the Jews had no way of determining God's
"appointed times"
or moedim.
Twelve times a year a new Jewish month (Rosh Chodesh) was
announced to the
people. We have no system like it today. We look at a calendar
to determine
the first of the month; the Jews, however, looked at the moon.
This system
of chronology was given to the Jews to know precisely when the
Holy
festivals (moedim) would fall (there are still eight of them;
seven
appointed times and Shabbat). The moon was the faithful Jewish
calendar or
witness in the sky and 12 times a year was sanctified as the
basis of the
Jewish stellar calendar.
GOD'S APPOINTED TIMES
Because the moon was so important for Jewish date - setting, the
authorities
in charge of announcing the new moon in Y'rushalayim took great
care to
ensure the first day of the month was announced on time. To
correctly
announce the first day of the month, established by the new
moon, was one
of the Sanhedrin's greatest responsibilities. They had to ensure
the people
knew when the first of the month began 12 times a year!
Therefore God said
to the leaders of Israel:
These are the appointed times of the Lord, holy convocations
which you
shall proclaim at the times appointed for them
(Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:4).
In other words, God gave the Sanhedrin authority to announce and
sanctify
the new moon to the people. Its proclamation on earth was
supported by God
in Heaven (c.f. Mattityahu 18:18-20 where the Jewish context
supports a
believers' Sanhedrin as seen in Acts 15).
As soon as the new moon was
announced, the first day of the month began. Once the beginning
of the new
month was established, the festivals and weekly Shabbats for the
upcoming
month were sanctified for observance. In Hebrew, those
observances have
always been called "appointed times" or moedim, literally "a
sacred and
set time".
From God's perspective, the appointed times belong to Him
(Midrash Rabbah Numbers, Vol 2.21.25, p. 852) and no one has the
authority
to change the celebration of an appointed time.
To do so was a serious
matter and great sin. Appointed times had to be kept because of
their
Messianic implications.
Further in Vayikrah (Leviticus) 23:4, notice the phrase, "holy
convocation". The phrase in Hebrew is mikraw kodesh, better
translated,
"holy convocation and rehearsal". In other words, God's
appointed times are
actually "holy rehearsals" set apart to reflect events in the
Messianic
era. God said to the people,
"Pay attention! On this day I am going to do
something! Wake-up! The Jews were to know and practice all of
God's mikraot
or holy convocations. This is the essence of Rav Sha'ul's words
that the
Shabbat, new moons and festivals, "are a shadow of things to
come; the body
of Mashiach" (Colossians 2:17).
Twice a year, in the spring and fall, there were several
appointed times
and specific days of holy convocation dedicated to the Lord. The
new moon
was the key in being able to fulfill those set times, holy
convocations and
rehearsals.
For example, when the new moon was announced on the first day
of Nisan, also called Aviv, the people knew when to observe the
holy
convocations and set times of the 10th (Shemot-Exodus 12:3),
14th and 15th
(Shemot-Exodus 12:6; Bamidbar-Numbers 33:3), 16th
(Vayikrah-Leviticus
23:15), and finally the 21st.
In the same way, when the new moon was
announced on the first day of Tishri also called Ethanim, the
people knew
when to observe the Holy convocations of the 1st
(Vayikrah-Leviticus
23:23), 10th (Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:26), 15th
(Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:39),
and 22nd (Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:36).
Thus from the announcement of the new
moon to the festival dates which followed, it was only a matter
of counting
the right number of days. In a moment you will understand how
this applies
to the phrase that Y'shua spoke concerning His coming again.
THE SANHEDRIN AND THE TWO WITNESSES
The Mishnah, also referred to as the Oral Law, dealt with the
legal
elements of daily Jewish religious life, in Hebrew called
halachah. In the
treasure of the first and second century halachah we find many
explanations
to help us understand the Torah particularly in Y'shua's day
since it was
still oral then.
In volume two called "moed" or festival, tractate Rosh
HaShanah teaches us about the Sanhedrin and its selection
process of two
witnesses who would tell us when the new moon arrived. Once a
month the
Sanhedrin discussed when to proclaim the new moon. They did this
through
the agency of two witnesses, the element of all legal
transactions in
Judaism.
One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or
for any
sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses,
or at the
mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Deut 19:15
The men were important because by their witness, Israel
celebrated God's
appointed times. They had to be of good character and were
always treated
with great honour.
They had special privileges such as authorization to
ride into Y'rushalayim on horseback on the Shabbat to bring the
good news
of the new moon festivities! The men had special status because
they were
the confirmation that Y'hudah (Judaea) depended on for the
correct timing
of the new month and the festivals.
Rosh HaShanah Chapter 2, Mishnah 5 reads: There was a large
court in
Jerusalem called Beth Ya'azek. There all the witnesses used to
assemble and
the Beth Din used to examine them. They used to entertain them
lavishly
there so that they should have an inducement to come. (The
witnesses were
allowed to break the Shabbat travel restrictions for this one
purpose lest
they might be reluctant to come and give the essential evidence
of the
sighting of the new moon).
Continuing in Chapter 2, Mishnah 6: How do they test the
witnesses? The
pair who arrive first are tested first. The senior of them is
brought in
and they say to him, tell us how you saw the moon - in front of
the sun or
behind the sun? To the north of it or the south? How big was it,
and in
which direction was it inclined?
And how broad was it? If he says (he saw
it) in front of the sun, his evidence is rejected. After that
they would
bring in the second and test him.
If their accounts tallied, their evidence
was accepted, and the other pairs were only questioned briefly,
not because
they were required at all, but so that they should not be
disappointed,
(and) so that they should not be dissuaded from coming.
In qualifying the witnesses, the Sanhedrin used the following
criteria:
They never arrived at the same time.
They were never questioned at the same time.
There were always two new witnesses each month.
In short, the two qualified witnesses usually stood before the
Nassi or
President of the Sanhedrin (Jewish High Court) to give account
of the
moon's appearance prior to its becoming total dark (Moed Rosh
HaShanah,
Chapter 3, Mishnah 1).
Just before the moon's disk enters total darkness,
there are tiny slivers of white on the edges of the waning disk.
These were
called the "horns" of the moon.
Correctly sighting the "horns" (on the
waning crescent) determined the beginning of the new month. Once
the two
witnesses were qualified and questioned, if the President (who
had
knowledge of astronomy) was convinced their observation was
accurate, he
publicly sanctified the start of the new month.
After careful scrutiny to determine the official arrival of the
new moon,
the Nassi or President of the Sanhedrin proclaimed Rosh Chodesh
with the
words: "Sanctified", and all the people repeat after him,
"Sanctified,
sanctified". After the proclamation, the Sanhedrin ordered
watchmen on the
nearby hillsides to light fires and thus inform the Jews in all
of Y'hudah
(Judaea), Shomron (Samaria), Egypt, Babylon and the galut
(diaspora) that
the new month had begun. That started the festival of the New
Moon and
counting of the next 29- days to the next new month
proclamation.
Again, once the Sanhedrin set Rosh Chodesh, or the beginning of
the new
month by sighting the new moon, the rest of the festivals were
calculated.
However, the seventh month, Tishri, was particularly important
because it
was the only month that had a holy convocation or appointed time
on the
first day of the month.
This posed a unique problem. The first day of
Tishri was the appointed time called Rosh HaShanah, the Feast of
Trumpets
(Vayikrah-Leviticus 23:24). Yet no one could begin observing the
festival
until they heard those famous words from the President of the
Sanhedrin,
"Sanctified!"
No one in Israel could plan for the first day of the seventh
month Tishri,
called Yom Teruah or the Feast of Trumpets (also called Rosh
HaShanah).
When they knew how many days to count to a festival, that would
be easy.
But:
HOW COULD THEY PLAN FOR A FESTIVAL THAT THEY DID NOT KNOW AT
WHAT DAY OR
HOUR IT WOULD PUBLICALLY BE ANNOUNCED AND THUS BEGIN?
This was unique to Rosh HaShanah and dependent upon the
testimony of the
two witnesses. Prophetically, we are informed of two important
witnesses
during the Great Tribulation:
And I will give power unto My Two Witnesses, and they will
prophesy 1260
days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:3
Of course, anyone could look up into the twilight or early
morning sky and,
if they looked hard enough, see the new moon or at least its
"horns". And
certainly an astute observer knew when about 29- days were
completed since
the previous Rosh Chodesh.
But recall, ONLY THE SANHEDRIN NASSI had the
authority to proclaim the first of Tishri, which was already
established as
a technical procedure.
Once proclaimed, the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh
HaShanah) commenced. Until that public announcement by the
Nassi, everyone
had to wait before they could begin the observance of the
festival. No one
could begin the festival beforehand!
Thus, we can more clearly see the
analogy Jesus made with His words: "But of that day and hour
knoweth no
man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" was in
regards to
this important festival of Rosh HaShanah.
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: patrick jane Date: November 29, 2018, 5:07 pm
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Did Peter Preach Paul’s Gospel at Pentecost?
By Justin Johnson
Before his death, Jesus told the twelve that he had to die and
that he would rise on the third day. Looking back upon this
passage we see this as Jesus speaking of an event that would
change the history of the world. However, it is unquestionable
that the disciples were ignorant of its meaning.
​
“Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold,
we go up to Jerusalem,…And they shall scourge him, and put him
to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they
understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from
them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. “ – Luke
18:31-34​
After his crucifixion, instead of anxiously waiting his
resurrection, the apostles were still ignorant, disheartened at
the death of their redeemer, and did not even at first believe
the testimony of his resurrection (Mark 16:14, Luke 24:19-24).
It was not until after his resurrection that Jesus appeared to
the apostles and ‘opened their understanding’ to the scriptures
regarding the necessity of the death, burial, and resurrection
(Luke 24:44-47).
However, we must be careful not to equate this teaching of the
cross to the understanding that was given to Paul concerning the
meaning of the cross today. As we will see from Peter’s
testimony, the apostles did not preach faith in the cross as the
means of salvation. Rather the necessity of the crucifixion was
revealed as it pertained to the prophetic program and the
covenants – the massacre of an unworthy lamb.
Peter’s Murder Indictment
After their understanding was opened in Luke 24, forty days of
teaching from the resurrected Jesus, and the supernatural
empowerment of the Holy Ghost, surely the glories of the cross
and the atoning work of the blood would be expounded by Peter at
Pentecost.
Yet, Peter did not preach the cross as a means of salvation, but
as a murder indictment against the men of Judea and Israel.
Peter testified how that Jesus was approved of God by his works.
​
“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man
approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs,
which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also
know: “ – Acts 1:22​
Yet it was to the shame of Israel that their long-awaited
Messiah would come only to be crucified by their wicked hands.
​
“Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and
foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have
crucified and slain:” – Acts 1:23​
Peter continues to explain how that God raised Jesus up to sit
on the throne as a fulfillment of the promise given to David.
So, then Peter again summarizes by saying:
​
“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God
hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and
Christ.” – Acts 2:36​
What an accusation and message of indictment presented against
Israel! It is no wonder that many were ‘pricked in their heart’
(Acts 1:37)
‘Repent and Be Baptized’
Subsequent to the appeal of these frightened men at hearing
their egregious mistake Peter tells them what to do.
​
“Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus
Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift
of the Holy Ghost. “ – Acts 2:38​
Suprisingly, Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, does not mention
the free redemption by the grace of God as Paul does in Romans
3. Instead he gives them nothing new – repent and be baptized.
We may remember that this was the message that was taught by
John the Baptist and the twelve while they were still ignorant
of the cross.
​
“John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of
repentance for the remission of sins” – Mark 1:4​
To the message of the baptism of repentance, Peter simply adds
the promised gift of the Holy Ghost that has now been sent from
Christ in heaven.
Done In Ignorance
In the following chapter Peter again is preaching to Israel and
again accuses them of murdering the Holy One. However, this time
he drops the charge due to ignorant manslaughter.
​
“But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer
to be granted unto you; And killed the Prince of life, whom God
hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. “ – Acts
3:14-15​
“And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as
did also your rulers. “ – Acts 3:17​
Just as Jesus prayed to God to ‘forgive them they know not what
they do’, Peter offers this forgiveness by the mercy of God
towards Israel (Luke 24:34).
So then, Israel has a second chance opportunity to believe Jesus
is the Christ as Peter continues:
​
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be
blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the
presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which
before was preached unto you:” – Acts 3:19-20​
It is here that we gain the crucial element to answer our
question, did Peter preach the cross for salvation?
Peter vs. Paul
We have read where before Peter offered the baptismal remission
of sins through repentance (Acts 2:38). Here Peter says that
their sins will be blotted out at the future times of
refreshing. In neither instance does he offer faith in the blood
for righteousness. Nor are his offers of salvation unconditional
or free, but are accompanied with baptisms and repentance.
In contrast Paul preaches the cross ‘according to the revelation
of the mystery’ not revealed or known to Peter (Rom 16:25, Eph
3:4). Paul preaches salvation to a man who ‘worketh not’,
receives atonement immediately, and is separate from the message
of baptism taught by John the Baptist (Rom 4:5, Rom 5:11, 1 Cor
1:17).
Furthermore, whereas Peter preaches the cross as a murder
indictment, filled with shame and guilt, Paul preaches glory in
the cross!
​
“But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our
Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I
unto the world.” – Gal 6:14​
It was this glorious message of salvation based upon the
necessary death of Jesus by the cross that was kept hidden from
the foundation of the world until revealed to Paul!
​
“Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they
known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” – I
Corinthians 2:8​
If it were revealed or made available to the evil princes of
this world or the Prince of darkness, he would not have plotted
the death of the promised Messiah.
Peter’s Teaching
Peter testified to what was revealed to him as far back as
Mathew 16 – that Jesus was the Christ. It was this same Christ
that was crucified, and would return to seek vengeance. For
salvation, Peter taught belief in the name of Jesus as the
Messiah, repentance, and baptism for the remission for sins.
What is left conspicuously absent, or more properly hidden, from
Peter at Pentecost is the glory of the cross as a redemptive act
necessary for the salvation of us all! It is this manifold
wisdom of God that was kept hid in God until revealed to us
through Paul.
​
“And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery,
which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who
created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto
the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known
by the church the manifold wisdom of God” – Eph 3:9-10​
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: guest8 Date: January 13, 2019, 8:45 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=5.msg2582#msg2582
date=1543532826]
Did Peter Preach Paul’s Gospel at Pentecost?
By Justin Johnson
Before his death, Jesus told the twelve that he had to die and
that he would rise on the third day. Looking back upon this
passage we see this as Jesus speaking of an event that would
change the history of the world. However, it is unquestionable
that the disciples were ignorant of its meaning.
​
“Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold,
we go up to Jerusalem,…And they shall scourge him, and put him
to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they
understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from
them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. “ – Luke
18:31-34​
After his crucifixion, instead of anxiously waiting his
resurrection, the apostles were still ignorant, disheartened at
the death of their redeemer, and did not even at first believe
the testimony of his resurrection (Mark 16:14, Luke 24:19-24).
It was not until after his resurrection that Jesus appeared to
the apostles and ‘opened their understanding’ to the scriptures
regarding the necessity of the death, burial, and resurrection
(Luke 24:44-47).
However, we must be careful not to equate this teaching of the
cross to the understanding that was given to Paul concerning the
meaning of the cross today. As we will see from Peter’s
testimony, the apostles did not preach faith in the cross as the
means of salvation. Rather the necessity of the crucifixion was
revealed as it pertained to the prophetic program and the
covenants – the massacre of an unworthy lamb.
Peter’s Murder Indictment
After their understanding was opened in Luke 24, forty days of
teaching from the resurrected Jesus, and the supernatural
empowerment of the Holy Ghost, surely the glories of the cross
and the atoning work of the blood would be expounded by Peter at
Pentecost.
Yet, Peter did not preach the cross as a means of salvation, but
as a murder indictment against the men of Judea and Israel.
Peter testified how that Jesus was approved of God by his works.
​
“Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man
approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs,
which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also
know: “ – Acts 1:22​
Yet it was to the shame of Israel that their long-awaited
Messiah would come only to be crucified by their wicked hands.
​
“Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and
foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have
crucified and slain:” – Acts 1:23​
Peter continues to explain how that God raised Jesus up to sit
on the throne as a fulfillment of the promise given to David.
So, then Peter again summarizes by saying:
​
“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God
hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and
Christ.” – Acts 2:36​
What an accusation and message of indictment presented against
Israel! It is no wonder that many were ‘pricked in their heart’
(Acts 1:37)
‘Repent and Be Baptized’
Subsequent to the appeal of these frightened men at hearing
their egregious mistake Peter tells them what to do.
​
“Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus
Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift
of the Holy Ghost. “ – Acts 2:38​
Suprisingly, Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, does not mention
the free redemption by the grace of God as Paul does in Romans
3. Instead he gives them nothing new – repent and be baptized.
We may remember that this was the message that was taught by
John the Baptist and the twelve while they were still ignorant
of the cross.
​
“John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of
repentance for the remission of sins” – Mark 1:4​
To the message of the baptism of repentance, Peter simply adds
the promised gift of the Holy Ghost that has now been sent from
Christ in heaven.
Done In Ignorance
In the following chapter Peter again is preaching to Israel and
again accuses them of murdering the Holy One. However, this time
he drops the charge due to ignorant manslaughter.
​
“But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer
to be granted unto you; And killed the Prince of life, whom God
hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses. “ – Acts
3:14-15​
“And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as
did also your rulers. “ – Acts 3:17​
Just as Jesus prayed to God to ‘forgive them they know not what
they do’, Peter offers this forgiveness by the mercy of God
towards Israel (Luke 24:34).
So then, Israel has a second chance opportunity to believe Jesus
is the Christ as Peter continues:
​
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be
blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the
presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which
before was preached unto you:” – Acts 3:19-20​
It is here that we gain the crucial element to answer our
question, did Peter preach the cross for salvation?
Peter vs. Paul
We have read where before Peter offered the baptismal remission
of sins through repentance (Acts 2:38). Here Peter says that
their sins will be blotted out at the future times of
refreshing. In neither instance does he offer faith in the blood
for righteousness. Nor are his offers of salvation unconditional
or free, but are accompanied with baptisms and repentance.
In contrast Paul preaches the cross ‘according to the revelation
of the mystery’ not revealed or known to Peter (Rom 16:25, Eph
3:4). Paul preaches salvation to a man who ‘worketh not’,
receives atonement immediately, and is separate from the message
of baptism taught by John the Baptist (Rom 4:5, Rom 5:11, 1 Cor
1:17).
Furthermore, whereas Peter preaches the cross as a murder
indictment, filled with shame and guilt, Paul preaches glory in
the cross!
​
“But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our
Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I
unto the world.” – Gal 6:14​
It was this glorious message of salvation based upon the
necessary death of Jesus by the cross that was kept hidden from
the foundation of the world until revealed to Paul!
​
“Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they
known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” – I
Corinthians 2:8​
If it were revealed or made available to the evil princes of
this world or the Prince of darkness, he would not have plotted
the death of the promised Messiah.
Peter’s Teaching
Peter testified to what was revealed to him as far back as
Mathew 16 – that Jesus was the Christ. It was this same Christ
that was crucified, and would return to seek vengeance. For
salvation, Peter taught belief in the name of Jesus as the
Messiah, repentance, and baptism for the remission for sins.
What is left conspicuously absent, or more properly hidden, from
Peter at Pentecost is the glory of the cross as a redemptive act
necessary for the salvation of us all! It is this manifold
wisdom of God that was kept hid in God until revealed to us
through Paul.
​
“And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery,
which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who
created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto
the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known
by the church the manifold wisdom of God” – Eph 3:9-10​
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In the beginning, Jesus told the apostles to teach only the
Jewish people. After the Cross they are told to teach the Jewish
people first and then the gentiles.
I really don't know why there are those that try to make a
different dispensation out of Acts.
From the days of John the Baptist, the 1st advent of Jesus
Christ to Paul and beyond is a transition period from the
dispensation of the Law to Dispensation of GRACE.
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: patrick jane Date: January 13, 2019, 9:36 pm
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[quote]
In the beginning, Jesus told the apostles to teach only the
Jewish people. After the Cross they are told to teach the Jewish
people first and then the gentiles.
I really don't know why there are those that try to make a
different dispensation out of Acts.
From the days of John the Baptist, the 1st advent of Jesus
Christ to Paul and beyond is a transition period from the
dispensation of the Law to Dispensation of GRACE.
Blade
[/quote]Yes indeed -
Matthew 10:5-6 KJV -
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go
not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the
Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
By: patrick jane Date: January 25, 2019, 10:18 am
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Does Right Division Cause Church Division?
How important is it to make a stand for mid-acts Pauline
dispensational right division? When people are first shown the
truth of the Bible and the widespread error that is being
taught, they realize that if they make a stand for sound
doctrine they may be causing division among an already divided
Body of Christ.
The typical response is:
“How important is standing for sound doctrine when many churches
and organizations do so much good in the community and the
world. Wouldn’t we help more people if we simply remained silent
and operated out of peace and love instead of divisive doctrine?
After all, we can accomplish a lot more if we work together.“
This ecumenical motivation is well-intentioned when it desires
to see the expanding the influence of the church. However, the
expanstion comes at the cost of a very special commodity – sound
doctrine. Ignoring the supremacy of doctrine is ignoring God’s
order for peace.
Peace will ultimately reign forever on earth, but only when the
Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ, returns to establish it:
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“Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no
end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order
it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from
henceforth even for ever.” – Isaiah 9:7​
Notice that the worldwide peace is established by judgment, not
by compromise. That is, the whole world will know the truth
after they are judged by the standard of Truth, God himself.
Only after truth is instituted will worldwide peace be
established.
God is never willing to sacrifice truth for peace, doctrine for
compromise.
Jesus himself, realizing that truth and doctrine comes before
peace said:
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“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you,
Nay; but rather division:” – Luke 12:51​
In the dispensation of Grace, Paul instructs us to avoid those
which cause division “contrary to the doctrine”:
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“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions
and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and
avoid them.” – Romans 16:17​
Again in 1 Timothy 6:4-5, Paul instructs us to withdraw from
those who consent not to the doctrine:
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“If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words,
even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine
which is according to godliness;He is proud, knowing nothing, …
from such withdraw thyself. ” – 1 Timothy 6:3-5​
It is only after he teaches the doctrine of Ephesians chapters
1,2, and 3 that Paul says in chapter 4:3:
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“Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of
peace.” – Ephesians 4:3​
It is first that Paul instructs Timothy to teach “no other
doctrine”:
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“As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into
Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no
other doctrine,” – 1 Timothy 1:3​
Then after this strong charge, he tells Timothy to “lead a quiet
and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty” in chapter 2:2.
So then, it is very important to understand that we should not
become argumentative, angry, hateful, or divisive. However, to
follow God’s order for peace, we are charged to defend sound
doctrine. God’s peace comes from like-minded believers who unite
through an understanding of God’s Word. Thus we are instructed
to:
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“Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me,
in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.” – 2 Tim 1:13​
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