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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: February 16, 2021, 8:42 am
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: February 23, 2021, 3:35 am
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: March 1, 2021, 8:22 pm
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: March 8, 2021, 5:22 am
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I Am Not a New Testament Christian
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By Justin Johnson
I am not a new testament Christian. The Bible says I can’t be,
nor can you.
Now, before I get secretly voted off the deacon board, let’s
consider why being a new testament Christian is of such
importance. No one would bat an eye if it was proclaimed that I
was not an old testament Christian, but what makes a new
testament Christian much different?
New Testament to Israel
It is said, “the old testament was for Israel, but the new
testament is for the church.”
While it is true that the old testament was made with Israel, it
would be wrong to say the new testament was made with the
church.
The scripture cannot be clearer that the new testament was
merely a replacement for the old made with the “house of Israel
and with the house of Judah”.
“For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of
Israel after those days,…” – Hebrews 8:10 (quoting Jeremiah
31:33).
New Testament is not the Body of Christ
It is said, “If you are not in the new testament, how can you
call yourself a Christian?”
The answer is realizing that Christ did more than mediate for
the new testament made with Israel, he also created a new
creature called the church, the Body of Christ (1 Cor 12:27).
While both of Israel’s testaments speak prophetically of Christ,
neither one speaks of the mystery of Christ to create this new
creature where there is neither Jew nor Gentile. The mystery of
Christ was kept secret since the world began, which means it was
not contained in the covenants of promise made with Israel (Eph
3:4-5).
The new testament does not explain the creation of the mystery
church, but it does guarantee that Israel will not cease to be a
nation, which has little relevance to the hope of the church
today.
“If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then
the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before
me for ever.” – Jeremiah 31:36
New Testament is a Law Covenant
It is said, “The new testament is faith in Jesus Christ.”
Yes, the new testament requires faith in the Messiah to be a
partaker, but that is not all that it requires.
Remember, faith without works is dead for the new testament
participant, because the laws of God are written in their heart
and mind causing them to do them (Eze 36:27).
“…I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their
hearts:…” – Heb 8:10
Rather than a lack of works testifying to dead faith, a lack of
works today can testify to a strong faith in the power of
Christ’s finished work for salvation.
New Testament and the Kingdom
It is said, “The new testament is the kingdom of God on earth.”
While this may be true, according to the promises of the new
testament we are not living in that kingdom today.
“And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every
man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know
me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them,…” – Jer
31:34
Instead of not needing teachers, teachers of the Bible abound in
trying to exposit the truths of scripture. Instead of all Israel
knowing the Lord, the majority of Israel is still in unbelief.
All of Israel will not be saved and the new testament fulfilled
until the kingdom is brought by the Lord from heaven.
“And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall
come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness
from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take
away their sins.” – Rom 11:26-27
No New Testament Christians Today
The new testament was not made with Gentiles, it does not
describe Christ’s work for the church, it is a law covenant, and
it is not being fulfilled today.
No believer today can be a new testament Christian if the Bible
means what it says to whom it says it.
Meanwhile, the believer today should be more than excited to be
a member of the body of Christ, saved by grace without works,
not under the law, teaching the gospel of the grace of God to a
religious world whose only hope is wrongly thinking they have a
special covenant with God.
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: March 9, 2021, 7:00 pm
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: March 15, 2021, 8:56 pm
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: guest8
Date: March 15, 2021, 11:50 pm
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The author is using Paul and James to separate (rightly divide
the Bible) Gentiles and Jews...
His referral to James 4:24 where James is saying:"Ye see then
how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only."
This is in direct contrast with Paul's assertion in Romans that
Faith Alone gets Justification.
Romans 4:5t.."But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him
that justifieth he ungodly, his faith is counted for
righteousness."
From this He tries to rightly divide the Bible to get to his
theology understanding.
According to James, He was speaking about Abraham having faith
yet it was his works of putting Isaac on the sacrifice altar,
prepared to kill his son if necessary.
Yet, Abraham was long deemed righteous by GOD before the
insidence with Isaac on the Mtn. God had already told Abraham of
His plans for Isaac and Abraham had faith in GOD to believe HIM.
Thus Abraham's righteousness (therefore justification,
sanctification, etc) was gifted for His Faith.
Rem, Paul may have been the apostle of the gentiles but He was
to give the gospel to the Jews first and only then the gentiles.
Our Church (Body of CHrist) has souls from many nations,
peoples,tongue and kindred as seen in Rev 5:9.."And they sung a
new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open
the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to
God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people,
and nation;"
This includes the Jews of Israel called Messianic
Jews...Believers of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Blade
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: March 22, 2021, 5:38 pm
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: March 29, 2021, 5:02 pm
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Re: Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing - MAD
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: April 12, 2021, 8:36 pm
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