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Re: Grace Ambassadors - Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing
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[color=black][color=white]We Have Christ’s Atonement Now[/color]
[/color]
By Justin Johnson
“And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus
Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.” – Romans
5:11
Romans 5:11 in the King James Bible is under constant attack for
using the word atonement instead of reconciliation. An attack
was recently republished by the Berean’s email list originally
written by the late Pastor Sadler.
The usual attack is to say that the word atonement means
something less than the complete satisfaction of sins through a
just reparation.
Instead it is taught that atonement means to merely cover or
hide from view, while reconciliation means to clean and remove.
While it is true that we have the ministry of reconciliation (2
Cor 5:20), this error makes atonement insufficient to deal with
sins.
This causes problems with the clear interpretation of other
passages of scripture, and, more importantly, means either
Christ did not atone for sins or his substitutionary atonement
was incomplete.
None of these are acceptable.
[b]Defining Atonement
The common argument presented in our recent example says:
“The Hebrew word kaphar, translated “atonement” in the Old
Testament meant ‘to cover.’ Hence, the blood of bulls and goats
merely covered the sins of those in Old Testament times; it
didn’t have the efficacy to remove them.”
The failure of animal sacrifices to take away sins is recognized
from the teaching in Hebrews 10:4 and Heb 10:11.
“For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats
should take away sins.” – Heb 10:4.
But why was it not possible?
If it were true that God-ordained sacrifices never
satisfactorily dealt with sins then why is sacrificial blood
described as cleansing, reconciling, purging, sanctifying, and
forgiving people of sins? (Lev 14:19; Lev 16:30; Eze 43:20; Num
35:33; 1 Sam 3:14; Heb 9:22-23)
Under the law of Moses, God ordained animal sacrifices as a
means through which sinful Israel could receive forgiveness,
cleansing, reconciliation, and satisfaction before God. It was
part of their covenant.
This is contrary to the false idea that atonement does not
cleanse, but reconciliation does. This kind of error leads to
saying wrong and dangerous things such as:
“In other words, the blood of Christ doesn’t atone for our sins,
it actually cleanses them forevermore.” – Sadler, In What Sense
Did Christ Atone?.
The truth is that the blood of Christ does atone. it is the
final atonement for a nation who needed atoned continually every
year, the only propitiation for my sins (Rom 3:25), and is how I
receive now the atonement (Rom 5:11).
The Yearly Day of Atonement for Israel
Each year Israel was commanded to have a day of atonement
complete with animal sacrifices that would cleanse them from all
their sins.
“For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to
cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the
LORD.” – Lev 16:30
According to Hebrews 10 the problem with animal sacrifices was
that they were offered continually, repeatedly, over and over,
each year. This problem of time and frequency is what Hebrews 10
and Romans 5 addresses, as we shall see.
Why was it not possible for the blood of bulls and goats to take
away sins? (Heb 10:4)
“But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of
sins every year.” – Hebrews 10:3
Despite the thousands of sacrifices they offered throughout the
year, the final day of atonement would bring to remembrance all
of those sins and send them out of the nation. Rinse and repeat
(Lev 16:34).
When would their sins be taken away once and for all?
Waiting for Atonement
Prophetically, these holy days for Israel spoke to the future
time of their promised salvation. Passover was a shadow of
Christ’s death. The feast of unleavened bread his burial. The
feast of firstfruits his resurrection. The day of atonement was
a shadow for the day in Israel’s future when their sins would be
atoned once and for all.
Daniel’s seventy weeks prophesied of the final reconciliation
for iniquity that would occur at the end of those weeks (Dan
9:24).
Peter preached that since Jesus was Israel’s final sacrifice
they had the opportunity for their sins to be blotted out in the
future when he returned with the times of refreshing.
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be
blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the
presence of the Lord…” – Acts 3:19
Even Paul mentions the future time of fulfillment of their final
day of atonement when “all Israel shall be saved” (Romans
11:26).
“For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their
sins.” – Romans 11:27
By using the word “atonement” in Romans 5:11 the KJB draws our
attention to the subject of Israel’s promises, but by using the
word “now” it stands in contrast to their future day of
atonement, providing the benefits of atonement to us now in the
present dispensation of grace.
The Mystery of Atonement
Israel waits for the fulfillment of their prophesied day of
atonement when Jesus will be recognized as their final and
better sacrificial Lamb, but Paul describes a mystery in Romans
5 about salvation offered freely to all men now.
By the riches of God’s grace we have many things now as a
present possession that Israel has only in a future promise or
covenant.
According to the revelation of the mystery, the dispensation of
the grace of God, we have peace now with God by faith (Rom 5:1).
We are “now justified by his blood” (Rom 5:9).
Reconciliation is a done deal, as the present benefits of his
death; salvation from wrath is guaranteed by his resurrection
life (Rom 5:10).
Israel is waiting for their future reconciliation and
fulfillment of their day of atonement at the times of
refreshing, but now we joy in God because we have NOW the
atonement.
Romans 5:11 is correct in saying we have “now the atonement”,
because it draws attention to this important mystery truth.
Christ is my atonement, providing all its benefits to me now by
his grace.
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Re: Grace Ambassadors - Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing
By: patrick jane Date: July 31, 2018, 9:42 pm
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[color=white]The Judgment Seat of Christ[/color]
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By Justin Johnson
Every person will eventually stand before the Lord and be
judged.
“So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”
– Romans 14:12
Yes, even those that trust the gospel of the grace of God. After
all, Christ is our Head, why wouldn’t we as members of his body
be accountable to him?
“we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.” –
Romans 14:10
The important question you need to ask is for what are you being
judged? It would be good to know before that day.
[b]The Judgment of Sin
All sin must be judged, but if you trust the gospel, then the
judgment you face will not be for sin.
When Christ died he took the judgment for sin upon himself. By
his resurrection he offers forgiveness of sins through faith in
what he accomplished in our place (Rom 3:24-26; 2 Cor 5:21).
When you trust this gospel that saves you are counted as
crucified with Christ, and your sin has already been judged by
the cross. What remains for you is to live through the power of
the resurrection of Christ.
If you are crucified with Christ, then you will not face a
judgment again for sin, because by grace you are saved through
faith in Christ. You cannot be condemned for sin again. The
judgment of sin is over for you.
Judgment of Responsibility
Though the believer’s sin is judged by Christ’s cross, the saved
will still stand before the Lord in judgment.
At this point, some cry “double jeopardy” as if we are held in
judgment again for our sins, but this is not so.
Remember, salvation is not from judgment, but from the judgment
of sin which is death.
Yes, you are still accountable to the Lord Jesus Christ. There
is nothing more right than that members of the Body are held
accountable to their Head.
You will face judgment for your responsibility in His body.
Being made servants of Christ there is work entrusted to us as
members of His body according to what Christ has given us by
grace.
In fact, only believers can be held accountable for this work as
servants of Christ. Unbelievers are neither made servants of
Christ nor do they have any responsibility as workmen for the
Lord. They will be accountable to the Lord for their sins at a
different judgment.
The judgment where members of the body of Christ attend is
called the “judgment seat of Christ” in Romans 14:10. This is
different than the judgment of nations before Israel’s kingdom
(Matt 25) and the great white throne judgment of the wicked in
Rev 20:12 and Rev 21:8.
Our Work Judged
For what are we being judged if not for sin or salvation?
This judgment seat will judge the sort of work done by members
of His body, whether according to God’s will or not. It is
described in 1 Cor 3 and 2 Cor 5:10.
In 1 Cor 3:10 Paul describes himself as the wise masterbuilder
laying the foundation of Christ, elsewhere described as Christ
according to the revelation of the mystery (1 Cor 4:1; Rom
16:25).
Paul admonishes…
“let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon” – 1 Cor 3:10
The judgment on that day will not be to determine the character
of a man’s soul whether his identity is that of a sinner or a
saint. At this judgment all are believers and are sanctified in
Christ Jesus by grace through faith (1 Cor 1:30).
Neither is this judgment to weigh the number of good works over
against the bad works to see whether on balance a person was
good or bad.
Rather, the fire at this judgment will “try every man’s work of
what sort it is” (1 Cor 3:13). The sort of work that endures is
that which builds and edifies the body of Christ according to
the Pauline pattern.
The sort of work that is lost to the fire is that which is not
edifying to the body of Christ.
Good work is worthy of a reward. Bad work will not remain.
Conclusion
Do you see how important it is to know the will of God, the
mystery of Christ, and how to rightly divide the word of truth?
Without understanding God’s will, we do not know how to build
according to plan. Our effort in service will be in vain.
All of our study is for the purpose of pleasing God by the sort
of work that will survive the judgment seat of Christ (1 Thess
4:1; Eph 1:5; Eph 2:10). Any lower standard for ministry is
vanity.
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth
not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” – 2
Timothy 2:15
The reason we study is not to be right, but to build right. Not
building at all is the same as building wrong. It will not last.
“Every man’s work shall be made manifest …” – 1 Corinthians 3:13
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Re: Grace Ambassadors - Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing
By: patrick jane Date: August 1, 2018, 1:53 am
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[color=black][color=white]Is Right Division Really That
Important?[/color][/color]
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We all know when we have reached a controversial topic, because
no one wants to talk about it. For the sake of ‘keeping the
church together’ and ‘eliminating unneeded division’ self
proclaimed Christians will try to squelch the teaching of
dispensational right division by making it seem unimportant.
Have you ever heard it said, ‘your majoring in the minors’. Or
perhaps, ‘your straining at a gnat’, is more familiar. A
contemporary response goes like this: ‘In essentials unity; in
non-essentials liberty; in all things love.’ What does that
mean, anyway? Where in the Bible does God list the essentials?
Why is it loving to gloss over doctrinal division and steer away
from serious discussion?
Doesn’t Paul say that we receive liberty through the gospel of
Christ (Gal 2:4-5)? Is the gospel a non-essential? Where it is
commonplace to be doctrinally apathetic and biblically ignorant,
we are bombarded with the influence of disregarding the
revelation of the mystery as trivial. Is it true? Not in the
least!
More Important than Salvation
There is no more important thing a soul can do than come to a
knowledge of the saving grace of God demonstrated on the cross
through Christ. In this aspect, the understanding of the
revelation of the mystery is the message through which souls are
saved. Ignorance of dispensational right division comes at the
risk of eternal damnation.
No where else in scripture do we find the gospel for today, the
gospel of the grace of God, other than in the revelation of God
to our dispensational pattern. Through Paul, Jesus first
revealed the meaning and the purpose of his shed blood for all
men. Not of our works, but by faith we are justified by the
death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
The glory of this truth ‘kept secret since the world began’ is
muddled by erroneously combining it with what God has purposely
divided. When teachers of scripture do not rightly divide
between what is prophetic and what is the revelation of the
mystery they are at risk of blurring or losing the efficacy of
the power of God unto salvation.
Though many people have been saved by well meaning people who
are ignorant of Paul’s apostleship, it is not because they
trusted in another gospel. They are saved despite their exposure
to improper biblical workmanship.
Unfortunately many others are deluded by ministers who are also
blind to the truth, preaching Jesus, but not according to the
revelation of the mystery (Rom 16:25). They instead preach
another Jesus according to the flesh (2 Cor 5:16). As a result
they are trusting in their water baptism, or their good works,
or their obedience to the words of Jesus during his earthly
ministry when he was a minister of the circumcision:
“Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision
for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the
fathers:” – Romans 15:8
Stunted Spiritual Growth
Despite the unclear gospel presentations, there are those who
hear the gospel, and by faith believe it and are saved. However,
continued subjection to teaching disparate of dispensational
right division will stunt spiritual growth.
It is no wonder that we experience a drought of true
spirituality if at the source we are not established according
to the teaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of
the mystery.
“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my
gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the
revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world
began, …” – Rom 16:25
Instead, members of the body of Christ are weak, frail, and
useless against the ‘body of this death’ and ‘this present evil
world’ (Rom 7:24, Gal 1:4). As a result, we have turned to pop
psychology and motivational speakers as substitutes for the
indwelling of the Holy Spirit who is able to teach us from the
word of God rightly divided (1 Cor 2:10-13).
By relinquishing the teaching of dispensational right division
to the scrap heap of ‘petty doctrines’, we are spoiling those
who would thrive in the protected soil of sound doctrine.
Essentials unity; non-essentials liberty; in all things love
Silencing the teaching of dispensational right division is the
cause of unclear gospel presentations and stunted spiritual
growth as well as being the single most harmful attack against
those who desperately need salvation.
While it is far easier to assume that standing for
dispensational right division is non-essential, the truth of God
says that without this message the cross of Christ would’ve been
a shameful defeat (1 Cor 2:7-8). The dispensation committed unto
Paul is the manifold wisdom of God and can not be more essential
to our salvation!
Paul speaks of unifying the body of Christ in Ephesians 4:3
after he explains the dispensation of God committed to him in
chapter 3. He defends unity when it is not ‘contrary to that
which ye have learned’ (Rom 16:17).
Christ gave us liberty through the gospel for our salvation, not
as an excuse to ignore ‘non-essential’ Biblical discussion.
Instead of using our liberty to be complacent towards doctrinal
discussion, we are charged to ‘stand fast’ in it, and not to
‘give place by subjection, not for an hour’.
We are subject to the word of truth rightly divided, and there
we stand in Christ.
“Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this
grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the
unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is
the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the
world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus
Christ:” – Ephesians 3:8-9
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Re: Grace Ambassadors - Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing
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Re: Grace Ambassadors - Salvation, Doctrine and Rightly Dividing
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[color=black][color=white]Sin and Your Identity in
Christ[/color]
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There are tremendous doctrines about who I am in Christ found in
Romans chapter six. These identity doctrines deliver you from
the power of sin and death.
Missing these important identification truths produces a variety
of doctrinal mistakes.
My New Life in Christ
Romans 6:3-4 describes that now we, that are saved, are
identified with Christ.
The old man, though present every morning in my flesh, is to be
reckoned dead (Rom 6:6, 11).
This teaches that the judgment and sentence of my old man is
already complete.
No longer am I trying to make it look better than what it was,
nor am I letting it walk around with impunity. It is nailed to
Calvary’s cross.
There is now no eternal connection between me and my old man in
Adam (Col 2:11).
I am not merely destined to die then face a judgment unto
condemnation and death. I am now destined to live in the
resurrection of Christ (Rom 6:8).
Freedom from Sin and Death
As a result, sin and death have no more rightful dominion over
me (Rom 6:9, 14). The life I live now is the resurrected life of
Christ in me, the hope of glory!
Without power of dominion, sin cannot accuse me, condemn me,
kill me, or make me subject to it any longer.
It can taunt me like the unrepentant thief crucified next to
Jesus, but it is already dead. The thief was nailed to a cross!
When it tries to raise objections to the court, it cannot
because the court is already dismissed and the bailiff has him
on the electric chair. Anything he might say are seen as last
words, and irrelevant to his sentence of death.
Death cannot threaten me with its fear of judgment, for my old
man has been judged and is dead. I am now alive in Christ.
Silencing Sin and Death
When these identity doctrines are neglected, then all of the
gracious benefits we have in Christ are called into question.
Sin will try to adjudicate over your eternal life by asking,
“Can we lose our salvation when we sin?”
Grace responds with, “Your testimony and authority is not valid
in this court. The case has been closed. The old man is already
dead. This new man is free from your accusations.”
Death will try to object, “But sin must be judged and suffering
must match the crime. He did not suffer!”
Grace responds with, “This man is in Christ. Christ died unto
sin once, and does not die anymore. You have no right to speak
in this court seeing as this man is already dead and resurrected
in Christ.”
Neither sin nor death can do anything to change who you are in
Christ, free from both.
Identification Mistakes
Those who think that the sin of their old man determines their
destiny, direction, or duty have missed the doctrine of their
identity with Christ, dead to sin.
Those who think they must suffer even unto death for their sin
do not understand who they are in Christ, where death has no
dominion.
In Christ, you can forget the daily re-crucifixion of Jesus in
the Mass, flagellation, the works of penance, fasting, stair
walking, stigmata, prayers of confession, and whatever other
forms of suffering the old man tries to perform on itself to
make a fair shew in the flesh.
Pleas are no good to save the man that is already dead. These
are all useless to rid you of your sins or your sin.
Christ’s Work Against Sin
Christ dealt with all your sin problems by the cross. This is
what we mean when we say, “Christ did it all”.
He did more than die a death in your place; he died so that in
your place he could conquer death in resurrection.
Do not forget what the Lord Jesus Christ did for you, he not
only died for your sins, but he died unto sin for you.
Thank God we are now no longer identified by our weak and
useless, corrupt and sinful, old man, but are now identified
with the Lord Jesus Christ and the reign of grace.
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Christ in You vs. You in Christ
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About those who are saved Paul says these two things: you are in
Christ, and Christ is in you.
“To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of
this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the
hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching
every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect
in Christ Jesus:” – Colossians 1:27-28
The phrase “Christ in you” is found in Col 1:27, and in the next
verse every man is presented perfect “in Christ Jesus” (Col
1:28).
What do these seemingly opposite but similar sounding statements
mean?
What’s the difference between ‘you in Christ’ and ‘Christ in
you’? The difference is important to see as it concerns the very
mystery of Christ.
You in Christ
You in Christ is where you are placed according to God’s
purpose. Your position is in Christ.
“And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in
heavenly places in Christ Jesus” – Ephesians 2:6
When you dwell in a house, you call it your house. Since you are
placed into Christ, then Christ is yours, with the high calling,
spiritual blessings, inheritance, and power that Christ
possesses (Eph 1:18-21).
The imputation of righteousness by faith is due to you being in
Christ (2 Cor 5:21). It is his righteousness imputed to you.
‘You in Christ’ concerns you being in his body, the body of
Christ.
We are all put into one body by the Spirit (1 Cor 12:13), in a
fellowship with Christ (Eph 3:9), when we trust the gospel of
Christ. Christ has many members and we all are in him according
to the mystery.
“For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his
bones.” – Ephesians 5:30
It is the mystery of God’s will that eventually all things will
be in Christ so that his power, blessings, and grace can be
given to all things in him (Eph 1:10).
Christ in You
If you in Christ is where you are placed according to God’s
purpose, then Christ in you is where he is placed according to
God’s purpose.
If all that is Christ’s belongs to you when you are in him, then
all that is yours belongs to him when he is in you.
You received Christ in you when you heard and trusted the gospel
of Jesus Christ (Eph 1:13; Col 2:6).
Paul prays that Christ may dwell in our hearts by faith (Eph
3:17), and that we walk in him having received Christ in us (Col
2:6).
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that
the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the
Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. “ – Romans 8:9
If ‘you in Christ’ is about His body, then ‘Christ in you’ is
about your body. Your members are now his (Rom 6:13; 1 Cor
6:19-20).
What drives a man is what is inside him. Faith resides in the
inner man. The Spirit of Christ dwells in you (Rom 8:9). When
your flesh fails, it is the power of Christ that rests upon you
(2 Cor 12:9).
‘You in Christ’ concerns what Christ does toward you, ‘Christ in
you’ is what Christ performs in you and through you.
A Great Mystery
Upon salvation we are not only moved to a new place in Christ as
a new creature, but we are changed from the inside out with
Christ in us.
We are not placed into Israel, covenant, nor into a religion,
but into Christ! ,,, and there by grace.
What is put in us is not the law in our heart, the power of
positive thinking, nor the hope of feelings and healing, but
Christ! …and Him by faith.
This is the great mystery of Christ and the church. It is our
job to come to a knowledge of it, and to make all men see it.
“This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the
church.” – Ephesians 5:32
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“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit
of God dwelleth in you?” – 1 Corinthians 3:16
Charismatic Lanny Wolfe wrote in a popular hymn that “surely the
presence of the Lord is in this place”, because “I can feel the
brush of angels wings”, and “I feel that same sweet Spirit.”
Sometimes people describe the Spirit dwelling in them like a
pregnant woman does her baby: “he moved inside me”; but God
never says we would feel the Holy Spirit in us.
Even so, it is the lack of a feeling that often prompts prayers
for him to rain on us and to come into our presence, our house,
and flood us with emotion.
Perhaps the fear is that the Holy Ghost in us gets stale like an
old bottle of root beer. There just isn’t any fizz after a while
and it needs a good shake.
Of course this is nonsense, but it does not prevent prayers to
call the Spirit down upon us like rain when people want to “feel
his mighty power”.
A popular Roman Catholic prayer, Come, Holy Spirit, asks the
Holy Spirit to come and “kindle a fire” in the faithful.
Pentecostals are inclined to pray on any given Sunday for the
Holy Spirit to “come on down” like a religious Price is Right.
“Calling down”, “welcoming”, “tarrying”, and “praying to send
the Spirit” are all appeals that have been made in church
buildings in anticipation that the Spirit would “fill this
place”.
To all these prayers perhaps the apostle Paul would respond
with:
“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy
Ghost which is in you…?” – 1 Corinthians 6:19
The Spirit In You
There is no reason why anyone who knows 1 Cor 3:16 and 1 Cor
6:19 should ask for the Holy Spirit to come on them when Paul
plainly says the Spirit is already present in everyone that
believes the gospel of salvation.
While most of Christianity pleads “Come, Holy Spirit”, perhaps
we should be thankful that he stays where he’s at by God’s
grace. As our ever present seal of salvation he doesn’t need to
move anywhere.
“… in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that
holy Spirit of promise,” – Eph 1:13
If the Spirit dwells in us then he does not need to come down
like he did at Pentecost on covenant Israel. Neither does he
need to find his place in us repeatedly every new Sunday as if
the the first time was ineffectual.
The Holy Spirit must slide off like water off a duck’s back if
continual prayers are needed for him to be “poured out like
rain”.
Instead, we need to recognize that he is present every waking
(and sleeping) moment of our lives in Christ (Rom 8:9). Paul
presents this truth as one very good reason why the Corinthians
should shape up their behavior.
Could it be that the wrong doctrine of a distant Spirit that
needs to be invited into church meetings is what produces poor
manners in many charismatic meetings?
“Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.” – 1
Cor 15:33
If you are in the body of Christ, the Spirit dwells in you. What
a grievance it must be for the Spirit among so many ignorant
Christians who pray for him to “Come” when he dwells in every
member of the body of Christ, that is, if they have indeed heard
and believed the word of truth.
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Everyone has emotions. Even people who appear emotionless have
emotions. Emotions are what we feel. They are generated by our
bodily senses interacting with everyday circumstances.
It is easy to manipulate our emotions based on our
circumstances. Entertainers know how to do this with lighting,
music, and smells. This is why our feelings cannot be trusted.
They are circumstantial.
Unfortunately, it is easy to confuse our emotions with
spirituality. The outcome is a pseudo-experience that is
generated through soft music, dim lighting, and sweet words.
This is not experiencing God. This is emotional manipulation of
the same sort that the world experiences in music concerts or in
the movies.
This has become so common in churches that the goal of gathering
together is to “feel the Spirit move” and “feel the power of
God”.
The counterpart to emotion is doctrine: what we know. We may
feel a certain way, but if we know something else then our
experience can change.
This is how truth works. We feel one way; truth tells us
something else. If we believe the truth, our life experience is
changed.
Paul describes this in Romans 5:2-4. Naturally tribulation is a
bad thing that produces bad experiences.
But when the doctrine of Romans 5:1 and 2 are applied to the bad
circumstance then we gain a beneficial experience that we can
glory in.
“And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing
that tribulation worketh patience; And patience, experience; and
experience, hope:” – Romans 5:3-4
Our emotion changes from distress to hope!
Sound doctrine from the Bible rightly divided is vitally
important for you to experience the life-changing work of God in
your life. Without it, we are simply following our
circumstances, slaves to our emotions and our flesh.
Churches are filled with people with little to no doctrinal
understanding. It is even worse when they have a wrong doctrinal
understanding. As a result, the only way to generate the joy,
hope, and love that the Bible talks about is with better
musicians, more intimate lyrics, and more visual effects.
There is a better way.
The formula for experiencing God is as simple as applying sound
doctrine to the circumstances of our lives. When this happens we
will experience God and generate emotions that are subject to
our mind in Christ.
For you mathematical wizards here is a formula:
Doctrine + Circumstance = Experience + Emotion
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