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       Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations: Comments
       By: guest8 Date: August 12, 2018, 9:48 pm
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       There are many who flee from Dispensationalism, some who agree
       with it and others like one well know scholar stated;  are
       'Leaky Dispensationalist.
       Dispensation is stated in the KJV Bible 4 times: 
       1:10; Eph 3:2; Col 1:25. The word in itself is Biblical.
       I have found that one can divide the Bible in many sections but
       they do not in anyway help with the literal reading and
       understanding the Bible. The following is my position on
       "Rightly Dividing the Bible (God's WORD)
       Pre-Law, Law, Jesus's Ministry,  Age of Grace, The End Days
       You may have different dispensations but these actually work for
       me?
       All Pre-Law covers Creation, the Flood, etc.(Genesis to
       Deuteronomy)
       The Law  given to Moses in and Prophets was until John (the
       Baptist) Luke 16:16 (Deuteronomy to Matthew, Mark and Luke)
       Between The Law, the ministries of John the Baptist, Matthew,
       Mark, Luke, John and Jesus were in process until the beginning
       of the "Body of Christ (the Age of Grace)" which started at Acts
       2:1.
       The Age of Grace will last from Acts 2:1 to the removal of the
       Church (Body of Christ) via Harpazo.
       After the Church is no longer on this earth, The antichrist will
       be revealed. The Beginning of the End days.
       The only way the Old Testament could end and the FORCE of the
       NEW Testament could happen is with the death of a Testator.
       Jesus Christ. (Heb 9:16-17)
       Blade
       
       #Post#: 323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: joechan82 Date: August 12, 2018, 9:58 pm
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       I tend to stick with Innocence, Conscience, Government, Promise,
       Law, Church, and Millennium. I use them more as a guide rather
       than rigid blocks of time. some have clearly delineated ends;
       removed from Eden, the flood, and Christ's first coming. Others
       are murky like Government. Abraham started the dispensation of
       Promise, but Government kind of continued. The millennium is
       still future.
       #Post#: 333--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: guest8 Date: August 13, 2018, 12:53 am
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       [quote author=joechan82 link=topic=44.msg323#msg323
       date=1534129093]
       I tend to stick with Innocence, Conscience, Government, Promise,
       Law, Church, and Millennium. I use them more as a guide rather
       than rigid blocks of time. some have clearly delineated ends;
       removed from Eden, the flood, and Christ's first coming. Others
       are murky like Government. Abraham started the dispensation of
       Promise, but Government kind of continued. The millennium is
       still future.
       [/quote]
       It is ok as long as one see the ending of the LAW and beginning
       of water Baptism for remission of sins instead of sacrifices.
       then a transition period into ACTs where it goes from a water
       Baptism to a baptism by the spirit and fire.
       Blade
       #Post#: 1260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: patrick jane Date: September 30, 2018, 7:03 am
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       #Post#: 1289--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: guest32 Date: September 30, 2018, 7:18 pm
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       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=44.msg322#msg322
       date=1534128529]
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       [color=yellow]There are many who flee from Dispensationalism,
       some who agree with it and others like one well know scholar
       stated;  are 'Leaky Dispensationalist.
       Dispensation is stated in the KJV Bible 4 times: 
       1:10; Eph 3:2; Col 1:25. The word in itself is
       Biblical.[/QUOTE]Three of the four mentions of "dispensation" in
       the Bible were committed/given to Paul! Everything outside of
       what Paul wrote in Romans through Philemon is to Israel.
       #Post#: 1295--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: guest8 Date: September 30, 2018, 8:47 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Phebe link=topic=44.msg1289#msg1289
       date=1538353081]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=44.msg322#msg322
       date=1534128529]
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       [color=yellow]There are many who flee from Dispensationalism,
       some who agree with it and others like one well know scholar
       stated;  are 'Leaky Dispensationalist.
       Dispensation is stated in the KJV Bible 4 times: 
       1:10; Eph 3:2; Col 1:25. The word in itself is
       Biblical.[/QUOTE]Three of the four mentions of "dispensation" in
       the Bible were committed/given to Paul! Everything outside of
       what Paul wrote in Romans through Philemon is to Israel.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=Blue,left] Hello Phebe, Don't believe I have had the
       pleasure of speaking to you before today.
       I see you are studying dispensations of the Bible. Yes,
       Dispensation is mentioned in the KJV Bible so it can be
       considered Biblical.
       The Leaky Dispensationalist is also my position. The word can be
       taken too little or it can be used too much in a HYPER sort of
       way.
       I use it as the KJV tells us. So does the other scholar you
       mentioned without naming him.
       The Law Dispensation is one I think we can agree upon. The Grace
       dispensation is another.
       Jesus tells us that the LAW and Prophets Stopped with John. John
       the Baptist. This preceded the 4 years of preaching to the
       Jewish people prior to that faithful day when Jesus rode into
       Jerusalem 173,880 days after the command was given to rebuild
       the temple and the wall, streets.
       Up until this time, the message given to the Jewish people as
       seen in the three Gospels of Matthew, Mark,  and Luke was the
       Kingdom of Heaven Gospel. This gospel would have been the the
       millennium gospel had not the Jewish leaders at the time
       rejected the Trinity three times. This caused the Millennium
       that would have been to become postponed. That postponement has
       never been reactivated YET.
       After the Death, Burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Cor
       15:1-4), Acts (by Mark) became the transitional period of time
       from the Law to the Grace by Faith.
       The Period of time from the day Jesus tells us that the Law
       stopped to Acts Chapter 2. is the dispensational period I will
       call the "Kingdom of Heaven ".
       From Acts 2, The dispensational period of Grace by Faith started
       and has yet to come to a conclusion.
       We know that the Millennium to come will have the "everlasting
       Gospel".
       One could have two others dispensation periods.. Daniel's 70th
       week and the Millennium.
       If one takes the dispensations from the beginning:
       1. Creation
       2. Law
       3.Kingdom of Heaven
       4.Grace
       5.Daniel's 70th week
       6.Millennium
       7.New Jerusalem
       Of course, one can use more dispensations and many do.
       The bottom line is the dispensations represent the way God
       reacted to the people during a specific time. This is another
       study unto itself.
       And one last item. Paul IS/was our apostle today. throughout His
       entire set of books, they are for the CHurch (body of Christ).
       There are 13 +1 Books. Three of these are to Pastors with each
       having two epistles. The other SEVEN epistles are to the
       Churches of that time period. So are Jesus' letters to the
       Churches of that time period. Rev. chapters 2 and 3.
       Are they related to each other. We know both of them have an
       Ephesus letter. Look to the seven letters of Jesus to see if any
       others fit.
       The Bible is put together like a jigsaw puzzle to us but it fits
       like a glove with all parts involved. These 14 letters fit each
       other like a glove. It was a joy to study.
       Blade
       [/shadow]
       #Post#: 1296--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: guest2 Date: September 30, 2018, 9:19 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=44.msg1260#msg1260
       date=1538309010]
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       Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection, the
       gospel of our salvation, seals us with that Holy Spirit of
       Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter
       3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV -
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       That dude cracked me up.
       #Post#: 1299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: guest32 Date: September 30, 2018, 9:37 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=44.msg1295#msg1295
       date=1538358432]
       [quote author=Phebe link=topic=44.msg1289#msg1289
       date=1538353081]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=44.msg322#msg322
       date=1534128529]
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       [color=yellow]There are many who flee from Dispensationalism,
       some who agree with it and others like one well know scholar
       stated;  are 'Leaky Dispensationalist.
       Dispensation is stated in the KJV Bible 4 times: 
       1:10; Eph 3:2; Col 1:25. The word in itself is
       Biblical.[/QUOTE]Three of the four mentions of "dispensation" in
       the Bible were committed/given to Paul! Everything outside of
       what Paul wrote in Romans through Philemon is to Israel.
       [/quote]
       Hello Phebe, Don't believe I have had the pleasure of speaking
       to you before today.
       I see you are studying dispensations of the Bible. Yes,
       Dispensation is mentioned in the KJV Bible so it can be
       considered Biblical.
       The Leaky Dispensationalist is also my position. The word can be
       taken too little or it can be used too much in a HYPER sort of
       way.
       I use it as the KJV tells us. So does the other scholar you
       mentioned without naming him.
       The Law Dispensation is one I think we can agree upon. The Grace
       dispensation is another.
       Jesus tells us that the LAW and Prophets Stopped with John. John
       the Baptist. This preceded the 4 years of preaching to the
       Jewish people prior to that faithful day when Jesus rode into
       Jerusalem 173,880 days after the command was given to rebuild
       the temple and the wall, streets.
       Up until this time, the message given to the Jewish people as
       seen in the three Gospels of Matthew, Mark,  and Luke was the
       Kingdom of Heaven Gospel. This gospel would have been the the
       millennium gospel had not the Jewish leaders at the time
       rejected the Trinity three times. This caused the Millennium
       that would have been to become postponed. That postponement has
       never been reactivated YET.
       After the Death, Burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Cor
       15:1-4), Acts (by Mark) became the transitional period of time
       from the Law to the Grace by Faith.
       The Period of time from the day Jesus tells us that the Law
       stopped to Acts Chapter 2. is the dispensational period I will
       call the "Kingdom of Heaven ".
       From Acts 2, The dispensational period of Grace by Faith started
       and has yet to come to a conclusion.
       We know that the Millennium to come will have the "everlasting
       Gospel".
       One could have two others dispensation periods.. Daniel's 70th
       week and the Millennium.
       If one takes the dispensations from the beginning:
       1. Creation
       2. Law
       3.Kingdom of Heaven
       4.Grace
       5.Daniel's 70th week
       6.Millennium
       7.New Jerusalem
       Of course, one can use more dispensations and many do.
       The bottom line is the dispensations represent the way God
       reacted to the people during a specific time. This is another
       study unto itself.
       And one last item. Paul IS/was our apostle today. throughout His
       entire set of books, they are for the CHurch (body of Christ).
       There are 13 +1 Books. Three of these are to Pastors with each
       having two epistles. The other SEVEN epistles are to the
       Churches of that time period. So are Jesus' letters to the
       Churches of that time period. Rev. chapters 2 and 3.
       Are they related to each other. We know both of them have an
       Ephesus letter. Look to the seven letters of Jesus to see if any
       others fit.
       The Bible is put together like a jigsaw puzzle to us but it fits
       like a glove with all parts involved. These 14 letters fit each
       other like a glove. It was a joy to study.
       Blade
       [/quote]My preferred focus of study is on 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV and
       therefore the dispensations stated as such in the Bible:
       dispensation of the gospel committed to Paul 1 Corinthians 9:17
       KJV during his provoking ministry, the dispensation of God given
       to Paul for us, to fulfill the word of God, even the mystery
       (Colossians 1:25-26 KJV), and the dispensation of the grace of
       God given to Paul to usward (Ephesians 3:1-9 KJV), and his
       mention of the dispensation of the fulness of times God might
       gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in
       heaven, and which are on earth; even in Him (Ephesians 1:10
       KJV). I must then recognize the rest outside of that which is
       written by my apostle in Romans through Philemon as FOR us
       (Romans 15:4 KJV, 2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV), but not TO us as I am
       called by the gospel (2 Timothy 1:8-10 KJV, Ephesians 3:6 KJV)
       which leads me to follow Paul 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 KJV, 1
       Corinthians 4:15-16 KJV, Ephesians 4:1-6 KJV, 2 Timothy 1:13
       KJV, 2 Timothy 2:2 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:7-8 KJV.
       #Post#: 1301--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: guest8 Date: September 30, 2018, 10:29 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote author=Phebe link=topic=44.msg1299#msg1299
       date=1538361434]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=44.msg1295#msg1295
       date=1538358432]
       [quote author=Phebe link=topic=44.msg1289#msg1289
       date=1538353081]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=44.msg322#msg322
       date=1534128529]
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       There are many who flee from Dispensationalism, some who agree
       with it and others like one well know scholar stated;  are
       'Leaky Dispensationalist.
       Dispensation is stated in the KJV Bible 4 times: 
       1:10; Eph 3:2; Col 1:25. The word in itself is
       Biblical.[/QUOTE]Three of the four mentions of "dispensation" in
       the Bible were committed/given to Paul! Everything outside of
       what Paul wrote in Romans through Philemon is to Israel.
       [/quote]
       Hello Phebe, Don't believe I have had the pleasure of speaking
       to you before today.
       I see you are studying dispensations of the Bible. Yes,
       Dispensation is mentioned in the KJV Bible so it can be
       considered Biblical.
       The Leaky Dispensationalist is also my position. The word can be
       taken too little or it can be used too much in a HYPER sort of
       way.
       I use it as the KJV tells us. So does the other scholar you
       mentioned without naming him.
       The Law Dispensation is one I think we can agree upon. The Grace
       dispensation is another.
       Jesus tells us that the LAW and Prophets Stopped with John. John
       the Baptist. This preceded the 4 years of preaching to the
       Jewish people prior to that faithful day when Jesus rode into
       Jerusalem 173,880 days after the command was given to rebuild
       the temple and the wall, streets.
       Up until this time, the message given to the Jewish people as
       seen in the three Gospels of Matthew, Mark,  and Luke was the
       Kingdom of Heaven Gospel. This gospel would have been the the
       millennium gospel had not the Jewish leaders at the time
       rejected the Trinity three times. This caused the Millennium
       that would have been to become postponed. That postponement has
       never been reactivated YET.
       After the Death, Burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (1 Cor
       15:1-4), Acts (by Mark) became the transitional period of time
       from the Law to the Grace by Faith.
       The Period of time from the day Jesus tells us that the Law
       stopped to Acts Chapter 2. is the dispensational period I will
       call the "Kingdom of Heaven ".
       From Acts 2, The dispensational period of Grace by Faith started
       and has yet to come to a conclusion.
       We know that the Millennium to come will have the "everlasting
       Gospel".
       One could have two others dispensation periods.. Daniel's 70th
       week and the Millennium.
       If one takes the dispensations from the beginning:
       1. Creation
       2. Law
       3.Kingdom of Heaven
       4.Grace
       5.Daniel's 70th week
       6.Millennium
       7.New Jerusalem
       Of course, one can use more dispensations and many do.
       The bottom line is the dispensations represent the way God
       reacted to the people during a specific time. This is another
       study unto itself.
       And one last item. Paul IS/was our apostle today. throughout His
       entire set of books, they are for the CHurch (body of Christ).
       There are 13 +1 Books. Three of these are to Pastors with each
       having two epistles. The other SEVEN epistles are to the
       Churches of that time period. So are Jesus' letters to the
       Churches of that time period. Rev. chapters 2 and 3.
       Are they related to each other. We know both of them have an
       Ephesus letter. Look to the seven letters of Jesus to see if any
       others fit.
       The Bible is put together like a jigsaw puzzle to us but it fits
       like a glove with all parts involved. These 14 letters fit each
       other like a glove. It was a joy to study.
       Blade
       [/quote]My preferred focus of study is on 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV and
       therefore the dispensations stated as such in the Bible:
       dispensation of the gospel committed to Paul 1 Corinthians 9:17
       KJV during his provoking ministry, the dispensation of God given
       to Paul for us, to fulfill the word of God, even the mystery
       (Colossians 1:25-26 KJV), and the dispensation of the grace of
       God given to Paul to usward (Ephesians 3:1-9 KJV), and his
       mention of the dispensation of the fulness of times God might
       gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in
       heaven, and which are on earth; even in Him (Ephesians 1:10
       KJV). I must then recognize the rest outside of that which is
       written by my apostle in Romans through Philemon as FOR us
       (Romans 15:4 KJV, 2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV), but not TO us as I am
       called by the gospel (2 Timothy 1:8-10 KJV, Ephesians 3:6 KJV)
       which leads me to follow Paul 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 KJV, 1
       Corinthians 4:15-16 KJV, Ephesians 4:1-6 KJV, 2 Timothy 1:13
       KJV, 2 Timothy 2:2 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:7-8 KJV.
       [/quote]
       It is ok if you recognize them as being to us (gentiles). After
       Acts 7, Paul's teaching were to both the Jews and the Gentiles.
       The Gentiles being our ancestors (or at least mine). I say that
       as the Bible only has two races in the world. Jews and Gentiles.
       Your right, Paul is our Apostle and if we follow what he and the
       other Apostles after Acts 9 tell us, then everything will be ok.
       Hope you have a Blessed evening Phebe.
       Blade
       #Post#: 1573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Rightly Dividing the Bible or Dispensations
       By: bernardpyron Date: October 11, 2018, 6:08 pm
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       Dispensation in the King James Version is translated  from
       οικονομιαν.
       oikonomion.
  HTML https://biblehub.com/greek/3622.htm
       "3622. oikonomia,  stewardship, administration
       Usage: management of household affairs, stewardship,
       administration."
       Look in the William Tyndale New Testament, for the four uses of
       oikonoma,  The Tyndale New Testament  was the first English
       translation from the Textus Receptus, whose verse wordings had a
       great influence upon the wordings of the Geneva Bible and the
       King James Version.
  HTML https://www.biblestudytools.com/tyn/1-corinthians/9.html
       I Corinthians 9: 17:  "If I do it with a good will I have a
       rewarde. But yf I do it agaynst my will an office is committed
       vnto me."  "Office" is the key word
       Ephesians 1: 10: "to have it declared when the tyme were full
       come yt all thynges bothe ye thynges which are in heven and also
       the thynges which are in erthe shuld be gaddered togedder even
       in Christ:"
       The Textus Receptus Greek says "for the oikonomian of the
       fullness of time to head up all things is Christ."
       Ephesians 3: 2:  " Yf ye have hearde of the ministracion
       (ministration) of the grace of god which is geven me to you
       warde."
       Colossians 1: 25 "wher of I am made a minister acordynge to the
       ordinaunce of god which ordinaunce was geven me vnto you warde
       to fulfill ye worde of god."
       "ordinaunce" is the key word.
       The question is whether it can be determined where the King
       James Translators got their "dispensationalist" translation of
       oikonomian.   One possibility is the John Wycliff English
       translation of the Latin Vulgate.
  HTML http://www.bibledbdata.org/onlinebibles/wycliffe_nt/
       I Corinthians 9: 17 "But if Y do this thing wilfuli, Y haue
       mede; but if ayens my wille, dispending is bitakun to me."
       Ephesians 1: 10 "hym in the dispensacioun of plente of tymes to
       enstore alle thingis in Crist, whiche ben in heuenes, and whiche
       ben in erthe, in hym."
       Ephesians 3: 2 " if netheles ye han herd the dispensacioun of
       Goddis grace, that is youun to me in you."
       Colossians 1: 25 " Of which Y Poul am maad mynystre bi the
       dispensacioun of God, that is youun to me in you"
       Now lets look at these same New Testament scriptures in the
       Geneva Bible.,
  HTML http://www.genevabible.org/files/Geneva_Bible/New_Testament/1Corinthians_F.pdf
       I Corinthians 9: 17 " For if I do it willingly, I have a
       reward, but if I do it against my will, notwithstanding
       the dispensation is committed unto me. "
       Ephesians 1: 10:  " That in the dispensation of the fullness of
       the times, he might
       gather  together in one all things, both which are in heaven,
       and which are in earth,
       even in Christ."
       Ephesians 3: 2 " If ye have heard of the dispensation of the
       grace of God, which is given me
       toward you."
       Colossians1:  25:  " Whereof I am a minister, according to the
       dispensation of God, which is
       given me towards you, to fulfill the word of God, "
       The translation of oikonomia as dispensation first appeared in
       the Geneva Bible, and the King James Version followed that
       translation.  But the John  1382 Wycliff English translation of
       Catholic Latin Bible of Jerome translated oikonomia as
       dispensation, in an older English version of the spelling, which
       is likely the source of that translation of oikonomia in the
       Geneva Bible.
       It may have been the successor of John Calvin, Theodore Beza,
       who was responsible for changing the Tyndale translation of
       oikonomia to the older Catholic version of dispensation.  Beza
       did some translations which had an influence upon the Committee
       which produced the Geneva Bible.
       
       I Corinthians 9: 17
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