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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: guest8 Date: August 12, 2019, 8:19 pm
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=43.msg7508#msg7508
date=1565635406]
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#Post#: 7522--------------------------------------------------
Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: guest33 Date: August 13, 2019, 8:58 pm
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Dear patrick & blade,
I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth
when I subscribed to this Forum. I do not believe the Earth is
flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.
If you want to be rid of me, fine.
You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity
holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth. The water in them
can conduct electricity, just like all of us. If it's God's
Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand
further how Great He is.
You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun,
Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat. Why do you doubt His Power to
do this with spheres instead?? I don't know if we made it to
the Moon, but I do believe that we did. I also believe our
cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and
found them to also be spheres. What about the tectonic plates
on moving our land?
Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in
seasons? Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the
Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?
Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the
countries showing on the flat Earth??
I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one
wants to say anything. That is how he screws up the wonder of
how God has created each planet and star. You think that the
Sun just goes across a Flat Earth?? Where does it go when it
sinks below the Flat Earth? Underneath the Flat Earth? Also,
how about the moon?
The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet. God's
Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.
I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top,
but no Bottom. That is how the Center of the Earth is also
called the Bottomless Pit. The Earth has no bottom, because it
only has a top and a center.
How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat? We are told in
the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come. We are
here, in the latter days right now. If the Earth moves at a
great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it
doesn't. The other planets move slower because their
circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.
The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava
and magma. Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat
enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force
up the magma stored in the Earth. Don't you realize that the
Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties
that it gets so pressurized. This causes the lava to spew out
of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.
Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me
have my own beliefs
without shunning me here. Of course, you can have your beliefs,
also. I do not want to debate this subject, because I have
enough to do. I am swamped with work to do all day. I have
work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums,
plus all of my regular email. I have reached over 75,000
persons on just one of my websites. Then, I have tons of work
to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's
occupants, including four cats.
I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept
quiet long enough. I don't understand how you can believe what
you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up with the whole
thing. How Thick is this flat Earth? Is China supposed to be
on the Bottom side of the Flat Earth? What kind of gravity
keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat? The Flat
Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other
things? How deep does this flat earth have to be? Well, I'm
going.
With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,
Michael
P.S. If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips
sealed and say nothing. Just like if you had bad breath.
#Post#: 8543--------------------------------------------------
Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: patrick jane Date: October 31, 2019, 1:53 pm
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[quote author=MichaelC link=topic=43.msg7522#msg7522
date=1565747905]
Dear patrick & blade,
I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth
when I subscribed to this Forum. I do not believe the Earth is
flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.
If you want to be rid of me, fine.
You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity
holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth. The water in them
can conduct electricity, just like all of us. If it's God's
Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand
further how Great He is.
You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun,
Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat. Why do you doubt His Power to
do this with spheres instead?? I don't know if we made it to
the Moon, but I do believe that we did. I also believe our
cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and
found them to also be spheres. What about the tectonic plates
on moving our land?
Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in
seasons? Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the
Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?
Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the
countries showing on the flat Earth??
I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one
wants to say anything. That is how he screws up the wonder of
how God has created each planet and star. You think that the
Sun just goes across a Flat Earth?? Where does it go when it
sinks below the Flat Earth? Underneath the Flat Earth? Also,
how about the moon?
The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet. God's
Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.
I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top,
but no Bottom. That is how the Center of the Earth is also
called the Bottomless Pit. The Earth has no bottom, because it
only has a top and a center.
How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat? We are told in
the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come. We are
here, in the latter days right now. If the Earth moves at a
great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it
doesn't. The other planets move slower because their
circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.
The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava
and magma. Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat
enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force
up the magma stored in the Earth. Don't you realize that the
Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties
that it gets so pressurized. This causes the lava to spew out
of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.
Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me
have my own beliefs
without shunning me here. Of course, you can have your beliefs,
also. I do not want to debate this subject, because I have
enough to do. I am swamped with work to do all day. I have
work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums,
plus all of my regular email. I have reached over 75,000
persons on just one of my websites. Then, I have tons of work
to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's
occupants, including four cats.
I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept
quiet long enough. I don't understand how you can believe what
you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up with the whole
thing. How Thick is this flat Earth? Is China supposed to be
on the Bottom side of the Flat Earth? What kind of gravity
keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat? The Flat
Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other
things? How deep does this flat earth have to be? Well, I'm
going.
With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,
Michael
P.S. If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips
sealed and say nothing. Just like if you had bad breath.
[/quote]Michael, if you read the Bible accurately you will see
that the earth NEVER moves except when God is angry and God does
it Himself. Nothing else except God will ever move the earth.
Every other "problem" you see with the flat and enclosed earth
and cosmos that the Bible clearly describes is easily refuted
and explained in detail.
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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: guest8 Date: November 1, 2019, 10:45 am
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=43.msg8543#msg8543
date=1572548031]
[quote author=MichaelC link=topic=43.msg7522#msg7522
date=1565747905]
Dear patrick & blade,
I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth
when I subscribed to this Forum. I do not believe the Earth is
flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.
If you want to be rid of me, fine.
You don't realize the strength of the great effect of gravity
holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth. The water in them
can conduct electricity, just like all of us. If it's God's
Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can understand
further how Great He is.
You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the Sun,
Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat. Why do you doubt His Power to
do this with spheres instead?? I don't know if we made it to
the Moon, but I do believe that we did. I also believe our
cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved and
found them to also be spheres. What about the tectonic plates
on moving our land?
Why do the constellations move constantly with the changes in
seasons? Why is it that our satellites/ drones photograph the
Earth and they don't show all of the countries in one photo?
Why can't they take a picture of the Earth with ALL of the
countries showing on the flat Earth??
I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no one
wants to say anything. That is how he screws up the wonder of
how God has created each planet and star. You think that the
Sun just goes across a Flat Earth?? Where does it go when it
sinks below the Flat Earth? Underneath the Flat Earth? Also,
how about the moon?
The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet. God's
Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess.
I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a Top,
but no Bottom. That is how the Center of the Earth is also
called the Bottomless Pit. The Earth has no bottom, because it
only has a top and a center.
How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat? We are told in
the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come. We are
here, in the latter days right now. If the Earth moves at a
great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it
doesn't. The other planets move slower because their
circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the max.
The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten lava
and magma. Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is flat
enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and force
up the magma stored in the Earth. Don't you realize that the
Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic properties
that it gets so pressurized. This causes the lava to spew out
of certain weak holes in the Earth and make volcanoes.
Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will let me
have my own beliefs
without shunning me here. Of course, you can have your beliefs,
also. I do not want to debate this subject, because I have
enough to do. I am swamped with work to do all day. I have
work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums,
plus all of my regular email. I have reached over 75,000
persons on just one of my websites. Then, I have tons of work
to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's
occupants, including four cats.
I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have kept
quiet long enough. I don't understand how you can believe what
you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up with the whole
thing. How Thick is this flat Earth? Is China supposed to be
on the Bottom side of the Flat Earth? What kind of gravity
keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat? The Flat
Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other
things? How deep does this flat earth have to be? Well, I'm
going.
With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,
Michael
P.S. If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips
sealed and say nothing. Just like if you had bad breath.
[/quote]Michael, if you read the Bible accurately you will see
that the earth NEVER moves except when God is angry and God does
it Himself. Nothing else except God will ever move the earth.
Every other "problem" you see with the flat and enclosed earth
and cosmos that the Bible clearly describes is easily refuted
and explained in detail.
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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: sneakydove Date: November 1, 2019, 12:39 pm
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[quote author=MichaelC link=topic=43.msg7522#msg7522
date=1565747905]
Dear patrick & blade,
I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth
when I subscribed to this Forum. I do not believe the Earth is
flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.
If you want to be rid of me, fine.[/quote]
Hi there MichaelC. I'm not the one you're addressing, but I
might be able to help you answer some of your questions.
[quote]You don't realize the strength of the great effect of
gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth. The water
in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us. If it's
God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can
understand further how Great He is.[/quote]
Gravity, in particular Newton's Universal Gravitation, is only
proven under the assumption that the Earth is spherical.
[quote]You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the
Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat. Why do you doubt His
Power to do this with spheres instead?? I don't know if we made
it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did. I also believe
our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved
and found them to also be spheres. What about the tectonic
plates on moving our land?[/quote]
Which is more in accord with what you believe on this topic of
spheres: The wisdom of God or the wisdom of Men? Who are more
adamant in proclaiming them to be spheres?
Here is what I suspect is true of the matter: Space does not
exist. The sky above our heads is a great crystal-glass dome
containing water in which the lights of heaven spin. God's
throne rests above the seat of the north. All of the "stars" and
"planets" and even perhaps the Sun and Moon are about the same
distance away from us. Light from the heavens/firmament refracts
through the waters/crystal. The "stars" and "planets" are not
necessarily spheres but are best described as "lights." Can the
stars fall to earth as described in Revelation if they are not
above the earth?
If the photographs of the planets are not photographs, then NASA
is involved in creating things in the likeness of things in the
heaven, in direct violation of the 2nd commandment:
[Quote][quote author=Exodus 20:4] Thou shalt not make unto thee
any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven
above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water
under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I
the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the
fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation
of them that hate me;[/quote][/quote]
I might even suggest that NASA serves them, creating and
enforcing belief in them. I would say that this commandment
exists for this very reason; to prevent the worship of other
gods. In this case nongods or the god of forces; Gravity.
[quote author=MichaelC]Why do the constellations move constantly
with the changes in seasons? Why is it that our satellites/
drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the
countries in one photo? Why can't they take a picture of the
Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat
Earth??[/quote]
Question 1: Why can you see the same stars year round if every
six months the Earth is supposed to be on the other side of the
Sun? Question 2: Two answers: Because they can't and also
because they want to maintain the lie. Question 3: Again,
because that view is reserved for God and even if they could
they would not want you to see that as it would disprove their
lie and the atheistic masses would suddenly find out creation is
true.
[quote]I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no
one wants to say anything. That is how he screws up the wonder
of how God has created each planet and star. You think that the
Sun just goes across a Flat Earth?? Where does it go when it
sinks below the Flat Earth? Underneath the Flat Earth? Also,
how about the moon?[/quote]
Your questions are valid only if space still exists. It does
not. For all our practical purposes, the Earth, the oceans, and
everything under the Sun is all that materially exists. You are
attempting to disprove a model of the world we don't claim to
believe in. It's a malicious misunderstanding aka a straw man.
Not that you are responsible for this misunderstanding, but
rather it is those who initially taught this myth that are.
[quote]The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.
God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I
guess. I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a
Top, but no Bottom. That is how the Center of the Earth is also
called the Bottomless Pit. The Earth has no bottom, because it
only has a top and a center.[/quote]
Molten metal cannot be magnetic. I agree with, "God's Wisdom and
Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess." Center
can mean both a center of a plane and a center of a sphere.
[quote]How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat? We are
told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.
We are here, in the latter days right now. If the Earth moves
at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it
doesn't. The other planets move slower because their
circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the
max.[/quote]
If the Earth moves as much as contemporary science (or "science
falsely so called" -1Tim 6:20), then it is already moving to and
fro around the sun.
[quote]The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten
lava and magma. Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is
flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and
force up the magma stored in the Earth. Don't you realize that
the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic
properties that it gets so pressurized. This causes the lava to
spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make
volcanoes.[/quote]
The deepest ever dug is only about 8 miles. Kola superdeep
borehole. If I recall right, they found water. You keep
repeating contemporary science talking points as though we might
be unaware of them. Indeed not. We would have had to
de-brainwash ourselves of them.
[quote]Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will
let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here. Of course, you can have your beliefs,
also. I do not want to debate this subject, because I have
enough to do. I am swamped with work to do all day. I have
work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums,
plus all of my regular email. I have reached over 75,000
persons on just one of my websites. Then, I have tons of work
to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's
occupants, including four cats.[/quote]
Love you to! I get that you're busy. You don't have to debate,
but you will probably hear our side of things if you stick
around here long enough.
[quote]I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have
kept quiet long enough. I don't understand how you can believe
what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up with the whole
thing. How Thick is this flat Earth? Is China supposed to be
on the Bottom side of the Flat Earth? What kind of gravity
keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat? The Flat
Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other
things? How deep does this flat earth have to be? Well, I'm
going.[/quote]
Feel free to stick around. You came here in the first place for
a reason, I'm sure. Indeed you don't understand how we can
believe it. I'll tell you the bit of choice fact that helped
convince me there was something worth looking into. The tilt of
the earth is 66.6 degrees off the horizontal. At ten miles, the
Earth is supposed to have curved 66.6... feet away from you, at
a hundred miles 666.666... feet away from you. The earth's
average speed is exactly 66,600 miles per hour around the sun.
Something about these numbers made me think, "Something's not
quite right." And so, I looked into it further with the
possibility that the globe was wrong. Then I discovered that
proof that the world is a globe was very scant and easily had
other explanations. I discovered that things that supposedly
vanished over the curve could be brought back with a strong
zoom. I began to recognize that gravity was based on the model
of the globe, and if it was founded with that assumption and
that assumption was false, then it is a lie, built atop a
foundation of sand.
[quote]With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,
Michael
P.S. If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips
sealed and say nothing. Just like if you had bad breath.
[/quote]
Finding out the world was flat completely dismantled what little
faith I had left in men and cemented my faith in the Lord. I do
hope you investigate. And by that investigate the claims of the
globe model. Prove all things, keep that which is true.
#Post#: 8586--------------------------------------------------
Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: guest8 Date: November 2, 2019, 8:54 pm
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[quote author=sneakydove link=topic=43.msg8569#msg8569
date=1572629968]
[quote author=MichaelC link=topic=43.msg7522#msg7522
date=1565747905]
Dear patrick & blade,
I was told here that I don't have to believe in a flat earth
when I subscribed to this Forum. I do not believe the Earth is
flat, nor do I believe that all of the other planets are flat.
If you want to be rid of me, fine.[/quote]
Hi there MichaelC. I'm not the one you're addressing, but I
might be able to help you answer some of your questions.
[quote]You don't realize the strength of the great effect of
gravity holding the oceans magnetically to the Earth. The water
in them can conduct electricity, just like all of us. If it's
God's Will that He has made them all spheres, then you can
understand further how Great He is.[/quote]
Gravity, in particular Newton's Universal Gravitation, is only
proven under the assumption that the Earth is spherical.
[quote]You figure that we are flat here on Earth, and that the
Sun, Moon, Venus, etc. are also flat. Why do you doubt His
Power to do this with spheres instead?? I don't know if we made
it to the Moon, but I do believe that we did. I also believe
our cameras have taken pictures of the other planets involved
and found them to also be spheres. What about the tectonic
plates on moving our land?[/quote]
Which is more in accord with what you believe on this topic of
spheres: The wisdom of God or the wisdom of Men? Who are more
adamant in proclaiming them to be spheres?
Here is what I suspect is true of the matter: Space does not
exist. The sky above our heads is a great crystal-glass dome
containing water in which the lights of heaven spin. God's
throne rests above the seat of the north. All of the "stars" and
"planets" and even perhaps the Sun and Moon are about the same
distance away from us. Light from the heavens/firmament refracts
through the waters/crystal. The "stars" and "planets" are not
necessarily spheres but are best described as "lights." Can the
stars fall to earth as described in Revelation if they are not
above the earth?
If the photographs of the planets are not photographs, then NASA
is involved in creating things in the likeness of things in the
heaven, in direct violation of the 2nd commandment:
[Quote][quote author=Exodus 20:4] Thou shalt not make unto thee
any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven
above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water
under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I
the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the
fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation
of them that hate me;[/quote][/quote]
I might even suggest that NASA serves them, creating and
enforcing belief in them. I would say that this commandment
exists for this very reason; to prevent the worship of other
gods. In this case nongods or the god of forces; Gravity.
[quote author=MichaelC]Why do the constellations move constantly
with the changes in seasons? Why is it that our satellites/
drones photograph the Earth and they don't show all of the
countries in one photo? Why can't they take a picture of the
Earth with ALL of the countries showing on the flat
Earth??[/quote]
Question 1: Why can you see the same stars year round if every
six months the Earth is supposed to be on the other side of the
Sun? Question 2: Two answers: Because they can't and also
because they want to maintain the lie. Question 3: Again,
because that view is reserved for God and even if they could
they would not want you to see that as it would disprove their
lie and the atheistic masses would suddenly find out creation is
true.
[quote]I think that Satan has got you all confused badly and no
one wants to say anything. That is how he screws up the wonder
of how God has created each planet and star. You think that the
Sun just goes across a Flat Earth?? Where does it go when it
sinks below the Flat Earth? Underneath the Flat Earth? Also,
how about the moon?[/quote]
Your questions are valid only if space still exists. It does
not. For all our practical purposes, the Earth, the oceans, and
everything under the Sun is all that materially exists. You are
attempting to disprove a model of the world we don't claim to
believe in. It's a malicious misunderstanding aka a straw man.
Not that you are responsible for this misunderstanding, but
rather it is those who initially taught this myth that are.
[quote]The core of the Earth is exceedingly an enormous magnet.
God's Wisdom and Power is greater than some men can perceive, I
guess. I was told by the Lord that the Earth has a Center and a
Top, but no Bottom. That is how the Center of the Earth is also
called the Bottomless Pit. The Earth has no bottom, because it
only has a top and a center.[/quote]
Molten metal cannot be magnetic. I agree with, "God's Wisdom and
Power is greater than some men can perceive, I guess." Center
can mean both a center of a plane and a center of a sphere.
[quote]How does the Earth reel to and fro if it's flat? We are
told in the Bible that it will happen when the Latter days come.
We are here, in the latter days right now. If the Earth moves
at a great speed for us to comprehend, why does it mean that it
doesn't. The other planets move slower because their
circumference around the Sun is a greater distance to the
max.[/quote]
If the Earth moves as much as contemporary science (or "science
falsely so called" -1Tim 6:20), then it is already moving to and
fro around the sun.
[quote]The uppermost center of the Earth is flowing with molten
lava and magma. Is it under our Flat Earth and our Earth is
flat enough, but also thick enough to create the pressure and
force up the magma stored in the Earth. Don't you realize that
the Earth's crust is so under pressure from the magnetic
properties that it gets so pressurized. This causes the lava to
spew out of certain weak holes in the Earth and make
volcanoes.[/quote]
The deepest ever dug is only about 8 miles. Kola superdeep
borehole. If I recall right, they found water. You keep
repeating contemporary science talking points as though we might
be unaware of them. Indeed not. We would have had to
de-brainwash ourselves of them.
[quote]Hey, I do love you all very much and I hope that you will
let me have my own beliefs
without shunning me here. Of course, you can have your beliefs,
also. I do not want to debate this subject, because I have
enough to do. I am swamped with work to do all day. I have
work to do with Facebook, Twitter, my websites, and 2 Forums,
plus all of my regular email. I have reached over 75,000
persons on just one of my websites. Then, I have tons of work
to do around the house taking care of it and feeding it's
occupants, including four cats.[/quote]
Love you to! I get that you're busy. You don't have to debate,
but you will probably hear our side of things if you stick
around here long enough.
[quote]I can imagine that you don't want me here now, but I have
kept quiet long enough. I don't understand how you can believe
what you do, except for Daft Dave serving it up with the whole
thing. How Thick is this flat Earth? Is China supposed to be
on the Bottom side of the Flat Earth? What kind of gravity
keeps the bottom of the Earth intact if it is flat? The Flat
Earth is thick or deep enough for us to mine for oil and other
things? How deep does this flat earth have to be? Well, I'm
going.[/quote]
Feel free to stick around. You came here in the first place for
a reason, I'm sure. Indeed you don't understand how we can
believe it. I'll tell you the bit of choice fact that helped
convince me there was something worth looking into. The tilt of
the earth is 66.6 degrees off the horizontal. At ten miles, the
Earth is supposed to have curved 66.6... feet away from you, at
a hundred miles 666.666... feet away from you. The earth's
average speed is exactly 66,600 miles per hour around the sun.
Something about these numbers made me think, "Something's not
quite right." And so, I looked into it further with the
possibility that the globe was wrong. Then I discovered that
proof that the world is a globe was very scant and easily had
other explanations. I discovered that things that supposedly
vanished over the curve could be brought back with a strong
zoom. I began to recognize that gravity was based on the model
of the globe, and if it was founded with that assumption and
that assumption was false, then it is a lie, built atop a
foundation of sand.
[quote]With Concern For You All & With Lots Of Love,
Michael
P.S. If I didn't love you all so much, I would keep my lips
sealed and say nothing. Just like if you had bad breath.
[/quote]
Finding out the world was flat completely dismantled what little
faith I had left in men and cemented my faith in the Lord. I do
hope you investigate. And by that investigate the claims of the
globe model. Prove all things, keep that which is true.
[/quote]
Good evening sneakydove. I hope this finds you well today.
NO, you do not have to believe the Earth is Flat to be in this
forum!!!!!
What we do best is help with the Bible (KJV) and GOD's WORD.
God's Word (every Syllable) is pure and true and if we follow
it, all will be known when we are with Him (Jesus) in heaven.
Here I can debate and/or help you with God's Sovereignty over
man's evil finality.
Again, welcome to FFE, I hope you enjoy your stay.
Blade
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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: guest33 Date: November 5, 2019, 6:35 pm
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[font=georgia]Dear Sneakydove,
I read all of your post and commend you for your hard work
typing it here. I hope that you will understand that I cannot
go into your post's depth as much as I'd like because of time
limitations. I will do my best here. I also do not know how to
answer you paragraph by paragraph, so I have to answer you in
general. Do you know what I mean?
The Earth is a sphere because, as the Earth compresses on
itself, it condenses and forces the circular sphere to keep
growing tighter and tighter together, because being a circle, it
locks together very tight indeed. It can only compress only so
much that the shape of a sphere cannot be drawn inward so much
more. Volcanoes and earthquakes solve the pressure emanating
from being a condensed sphere.
The magnetism and gravity of the Earth are resultant of a circle
condensed solidly around a core. Where do we get magnetism?
This compressing of the land and sea around the circumference of
the Earth causes the great heat at the center. If the Earth
didn't have moving plates, the Earth would compress upon itself.
I doubt that we have tons of flat heavenly bodies that we call
planets, stars, and black holes strewn throughout the Universe.
But it is according to what each of us believes.
The light from the stars is caused by the energy from God's
spirit within them, just like Jesus' soul/ spirit glowed during
His transfiguration. This is what I was told. God's spirit
does have a lot of energy in it. This energy gives off great
light.
The result of the spheres compressing on themselves causes heat.
I don't know how else to explain this to you right now because
I am out of time. Will chat with you again soon.
I will tell you though, that the Lord told me about the
bottomless pit being hell, that the Earth was round, and there
would be no bottomless pit if the Earth was flat. Well, He just
told me that Earth was a sphere when He told me about hell being
the bottomless pit and where that pit was. It was a shocking
revelation from Him, to say the least. It's up to you to
believe what you want to, of course.
Okay, got to run. It's been a life for me so far. May God
Increase Your Love Considerably!!
Michael
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#Post#: 8723--------------------------------------------------
Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: sneakydove Date: November 10, 2019, 7:59 pm
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@Blade: Thanks!
@Michael: I know all about volcanoes and gravity and the stars
are also suns and other planets and NASA and everything like
that. That stuff helped to deceive me away from Christ. I grew
up loosely Anglican. I went to a Christian summer camp which
thankfully gave me something of a grounding. But everything I
was learning in school was contrary to what was here. Even
though I was at a Christian camp I never really understood the
gospel.
Then it's off to University with all sorts of sins and
temptations everywhere and nobody thinks the bible is good for
anything, bar one or two people in my immediate circle.
Whatever the case, I have a crisis of faith and start looking
for other books. I end up going into science texts. However I
seem to see errors there that others don't, but since everybody
seems to agree on this stuff I'll go along with it, but mostly I
just follow Sci-Fi.
Then I have an encounter with truly evil occulted stuff going on
in very close proximity to where I live. I brush it off, but
within six months things get very weird. Now I'm suddenly deep
into conspiracies and lo and be hold, thanks to my encounter, I
discover that there are actual evil people in the world, and
more than that devils and unclean spirits and etcetera are
actually real things. I repent and ask Jesus into my heart. I
broke out into cold sweats and there was some other presence
inside me that did not like what was happening. It was soon
over and I'm in a cold sweat wondering what just happened?
So now I have a far more direct experience that yes, God and
Jesus and the Bible are definitely real and so then I try to
reconcile that with what I (think) I know of the world. I try
mushing science into the Bible. Things aren't fitting and just
don't make sense. Eventually after a rough week spiritually
speaking I pray and say something to the effect of, "God, I
trust you. I don't understand what's going on, but I trust you.
If there's anything else for me to see and tell others about,
let me see it if you're willing." The next day, I see a flat
earth video. I think, Yeah, why not. I watch it.
Well now, this makes actual sense and accords with the Bible!
The sun and the moon are the same size. They are not material
objects but are lights. The earth was made before the sun and
the moon. The flood could be real. Evolution absolutely cannot
be! It makes for a very swift "don't let the door kick you on
the way out" type of exit from strict Materialism and into
Biblical Literalism. I then understood what it means when Jesus
tells us we must be like children. I tried bringing all of my
understanding of the world and things just didn't mesh. I had
to start my mind and world view totally afresh.
I'm not the only one either. Flat earth as a concept has booted
many an Atheist or otherwise Materialist swiftly into the arms
of The Lord. The channel The Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction has
a good video on that which I can link to you if you are willing
to make time to watch it. The argument that if the tree bears
good fruit goes along way if it's drawing people to Jesus rather
than away from Him.
Normally I debate these sorts of topics with atheists in the
hopes it will make them analyze what effectively amounts to
their holy books in the form of Newton's Principia, Einstein's
General Relativity, or anything by Carl Sagan. Broaching these
subjects with Christians I thought would be easier as I would
have to spend less of my Humanities background learning
mathematical engineering concepts just to talk with these guys
and more time with actual textual analysis or even just a few
simple Bible verses. Of course, as I can see from the efforts
of others, it's not that simple.
That said, I don't think Flat Earth is entirely a salvational
issue, however I don't have much truck in the theology of anyone
who doesn't entertain it and still follows the Anti-Gospel of
Jet Propulsion Labs and NASA (which was run by a practicing
satanist if you're wondering.)
As an aside, I'm a natural typist and wordsmith so don't think
my typing a lot of words necessarily takes me a great deal of
effort. It's one of those gifts God's allowed me to have.
Cheers Michael. I understand your time is precious and I don't
really feel I need to convince you. Just know that when you try
to talk the flat earth out of me you're not getting anywhere.
Once you know the truth, you don't let it go. If you find that
sentiment offensive, that I don't consider the globe to be the
truth, why?
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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: guest33 Date: November 11, 2019, 8:02 pm
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[font=times new roman]Dear Sneakydove,
I can't answer you completely today, but wanted to say that the
Lord can stop the rotation of the Earth for long enough to help
Joshua. God can certainly do that. Will chat soon, hopefully
tomorrow or so. I will probably add to this post ASAP. Thanks!
[color=blue]
Hey Sneakydove,
I have some time tonight, so I'll post a little. What I'd like
to know is how deep or thick is this Flat Earth? How is extreme
pressure built up so much that it has to release and spew out of
the Earth, if there is no gravity. A round Earth means that
gravity is constantly trying to pull the top of the sphere
toward or into the middle.
Being a sphere, the crust gets extreme resistance upon itself,
because a sphere compacting upon itself is where the Pressure
begins and a sphere has nowhere to go if it is sinking towards
it's center. Things stabilize by the Earth coming inward and
also flying outward while it spins so fast.
A sphere is round and so it cannot go anywhere inward. Spheres
can't contract because they have no spacers anywhere. The
sidewalk can expand and contract to ease it's problems of winter
and summer. Do you know what I am saying here? That's why a
round circumference stays the same and doesn't cave in on
itself.
I was told that the center of the Earth was the bottomless pit,
or Hell. It is very hot there because of the compacting and
pressure of Earth trying to fall back into it's center, caused
by strong gravity. If gravity is strong enough to move the
ocean tides, than we must realize that gravity exists on the
Earth and also the Moon. It's the moon that moves the waves by
it rotating on the Earth.
How about Saturn being a sphere, also? Does it have only
constant fixed rainbows or are they rings instead? It Saturn is
a sphere, then why not the Earth? If you go far to the East of
Earth, why don't you drop off the shelf of it? Why don't we
hear about persons taking a step too far over the edge of the
Flat Earth and falling?
A pit on a Flat Earth would have a bottom if it were flat. Why
does the Lord God say instead, the 'bottomless' pit? A pit on a
Flat Earth would have a bottom. But, being a sphere, the bottom
is instead a 'center' and the top of the Earth is the top, where
everyone is living. Where is the End or most West land on the
Earth before ending and which country is there to butt up to
another country? Why does a ship sailing West not fall off the
edge of the land, if it is Flat? Where does that ship go? When
does West end?? Where does East end? How come we can keep
traveling around the Earth without coming to the Edge?
The Moon creates gravity on the ocean waves so that they are
rushing. The moon circling the Earth makes the tides move a
certain way. The Earth must be moving with tons of gravity in
the center, to spin around, which throws water and land on the
circumference outward and slings whatever is on top outward from
the spinning around. Strong gravity from the Earth's iron core
is magnetically locking the Earthly magnet to compact with great
force.
If this was a Flat Earth, why would there be any gravity at all?
There would be no sphere trying to compact upon itself and so
no extraordinary friction or great heat at the center would even
matter. Why do we see countries continuing as we travel West
and we never fall off the Flat Earth or the sea. The sea
conducts electricity or magnetism and stays where it is because
of gravity and the magnetic core.
Which countries are located on each Edge of this Flat Earth?
How do we continue to travel West endlessly without falling off?
What is there, gravity underneath the Flat Earth? How is it
created to travel from country to country back to the same
country that you passed earlier if it is flat and not round?
Why do we see different views of the countries according to a
picture that is produced by a satellite? Why can't the
satellite take one picture that includes all of the countries
and seas of the World in one pose?
How deep is the ground on this Flat Earth? If it is deep or not
deep, and it is not round, then it must be like a humongous
rectangle or box. It must have a flat bottom, unless it has a
semicircular bottom. You see how the pressure and gravity
increases as you travel further down in the ocean. The water
starts crushing in on your body to where it is a final
destruction. That is gravity and the heaviness of the water.
I could go on with more, most likely, but this will have to do
for starters. Let me know what you think. Someone is not
playing with a full deck here. God could make the Earth be a
sphere, for He is spectacular and quite able to do it. Or He
could make it Flat, but how would there be a bottomless pit in
the center, not a top or bottom. Without gravity, how does the
feather and snow, or hail, fall from the top of the air above to
the ground? What makes 'down' the way that things should fall?
There Must be gravity. How does this gravity exist in the first
place?
Hey, I could go on, but I digress. I want to know what you
think of this info.
Michael
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Re: We Never Went To The Moon - Fake NASA
By: patrick jane Date: January 15, 2020, 9:49 pm
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