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       #Post#: 5226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: guest74
       Date: April 27, 2019, 5:34 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > LX200? What, is that a Lexus?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  It's a telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Regardless, I'm not the first and I won't be the last to tell
       you that your videos and "images" are worthless. Total trash
       that was created to dupe "Outer Space" enthusiasts like you to
       open their wallet for some "equipment" that CREATES and MODIFIES
       and ENHANCES and is "ADAPTIVE" SO THAT YOU WILL see EXACTLY WHAT
       YOU DREAM OF.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have utterly failed to support that claim.  See, you can
       spew whatever nonsense you want but that doesn't make it true.
       You are utterly clueless about how my equipment works and you
       are completely wrong in your claim that it "creates" fake
       images.  The CCD does not modify the image, it just provides raw
       data.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt/tip mirror used
       to keep the stars steady during the exposure, that's all it is,
       it's not magic, it's not the boogey man and it doesn't fake any
       of the images.  The camera and adaptive optics actually have no
       way of knowing what kind of optic they are attached to.  They
       could be attached to any of a variety of telescopes and could
       have various focal reducers attached.  They have no way of know
       what they're pointed at or what they're attached to, so there is
       not even a way for them to theoretically fake the images they
       produce because they'd have no idea what to generate.  I hate to
       break this to you, but technology like this is not telepathic
       and it cannot know what you're "dreaming" of.  It doesn't know
       and it doesn't care, it just records photons of light.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Galaxies and "deep space". Your videos, footage, images and
       descriptions of what your magical equipment does are pure
       bullshit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's nothing magical or fake about it.  You need professional
       mental help.
       #Post#: 5227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: April 27, 2019, 6:10 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: LX200 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5225#msg5225
       date=1556387642]
       > LX200? What, is that a Lexus?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  It's a telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Regardless, I'm not the first and I won't be the last to tell
       you that your videos and "images" are worthless. Total trash
       that was created to dupe "Outer Space" enthusiasts like you to
       open their wallet for some "equipment" that CREATES and MODIFIES
       and ENHANCES and is "ADAPTIVE" SO THAT YOU WILL see EXACTLY WHAT
       YOU DREAM OF.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have utterly failed to support that claim.  See, you can
       spew whatever nonsense you want but that doesn't make it true.
       You are utterly clueless about how my equipment works and you
       are completely wrong in your claim that it "creates" fake
       images.  The CCD does not modify the image, it just provides raw
       data.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt/tip mirror used
       to keep the stars steady during the exposure, that's all it is,
       it's not magic, it's not the boogey man and it doesn't fake any
       of the images.  The camera and adaptive optics actually have no
       way of knowing what kind of optic they are attached to.  They
       could be attached to any of a variety of telescopes and could
       have various focal reducers attached.  They have no way of know
       what they're pointed at or what they're attached to, so there is
       not even a way for them to theoretically fake the images they
       produce because they'd have no idea what to generate.  I hate to
       break this to you, but technology like this is not telepathic
       and it cannot know what you're "dreaming" of.  It doesn't know
       and it doesn't care, it just records photons of light.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Galaxies and "deep space". Your videos, footage, images and
       descriptions of what your magical equipment does are pure
       bullshit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's nothing magical or fake about it.  You need professional
       mental help.
       [/quote]That's the beauty of it. They tell you what you will see
       and they manufacture the required components. You bought it. Now
       you're seeing things that nobody else sees. Do you get it yet?
       You are one of the select few that SEE . . . because you bought
       the equipment. It's another video game you're playing, that's
       all it is.
       #Post#: 5228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: April 27, 2019, 6:19 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: LX200 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5225#msg5225
       date=1556387642]
       > LX200? What, is that a Lexus?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  It's a telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Regardless, I'm not the first and I won't be the last to tell
       you that your videos and "images" are worthless. Total trash
       that was created to dupe "Outer Space" enthusiasts like you to
       open their wallet for some "equipment" that CREATES and MODIFIES
       and ENHANCES and is "ADAPTIVE" SO THAT YOU WILL see EXACTLY WHAT
       YOU DREAM OF.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have utterly failed to support that claim.  See, you can
       spew whatever nonsense you want but that doesn't make it true.
       You are utterly clueless about how my equipment works and you
       are completely wrong in your claim that it "creates" fake
       images.  The CCD does not modify the image, it just provides raw
       data.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt/tip mirror used
       to keep the stars steady during the exposure, that's all it is,
       it's not magic, it's not the boogey man and it doesn't fake any
       of the images.  The camera and adaptive optics actually have no
       way of knowing what kind of optic they are attached to.  They
       could be attached to any of a variety of telescopes and could
       have various focal reducers attached.  They have no way of know
       what they're pointed at or what they're attached to, so there is
       not even a way for them to theoretically fake the images they
       produce because they'd have no idea what to generate.  I hate to
       break this to you, but technology like this is not telepathic
       and it cannot know what you're "dreaming" of.  It doesn't know
       and it doesn't care, it just records photons of light.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Galaxies and "deep space". Your videos, footage, images and
       descriptions of what your magical equipment does are pure
       bullshit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's nothing magical or fake about it.  You need professional
       mental help.
       [/quote]Here's another thing, punk. The next time you question
       my sanity I will delete ALL of your content here and delete your
       IP address. If you can't support your data don't resort to
       personal attack, jackass.
       #Post#: 5270--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: April 29, 2019, 9:08 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=LX200 link=topic=409.msg5226#msg5226
       date=1556404483]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5225#msg5225
       date=1556387642]
       > LX200? What, is that a Lexus?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  It's a telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Regardless, I'm not the first and I won't be the last to tell
       you that your videos and "images" are worthless. Total trash
       that was created to dupe "Outer Space" enthusiasts like you to
       open their wallet for some "equipment" that CREATES and MODIFIES
       and ENHANCES and is "ADAPTIVE" SO THAT YOU WILL see EXACTLY WHAT
       YOU DREAM OF.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have utterly failed to support that claim.  See, you can
       spew whatever nonsense you want but that doesn't make it true.
       You are utterly clueless about how my equipment works and you
       are completely wrong in your claim that it "creates" fake
       images.  The CCD does not modify the image, it just provides raw
       data.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt/tip mirror used
       to keep the stars steady during the exposure, that's all it is,
       it's not magic, it's not the boogey man and it doesn't fake any
       of the images.  The camera and adaptive optics actually have no
       way of knowing what kind of optic they are attached to.  They
       could be attached to any of a variety of telescopes and could
       have various focal reducers attached.  They have no way of know
       what they're pointed at or what they're attached to, so there is
       not even a way for them to theoretically fake the images they
       produce because they'd have no idea what to generate.  I hate to
       break this to you, but technology like this is not telepathic
       and it cannot know what you're "dreaming" of.  It doesn't know
       and it doesn't care, it just records photons of light.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Galaxies and "deep space". Your videos, footage, images and
       descriptions of what your magical equipment does are pure
       bullshit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's nothing magical or fake about it.  You need professional
       mental help.
       [/quote]Here's another thing, punk. The next time you question
       my sanity I will delete ALL of your content here and delete your
       IP address. If you can't support your data don't resort to
       personal attack, jackass.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Uh, PJ, I see you don't need any help? :o
       Full steam ahead.
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 5298--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: guest74
       Date: April 30, 2019, 6:03 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=LX200 link=topic=409.msg5226#msg5226
       date=1556404483]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5225#msg5225
       date=1556387642]
       > LX200? What, is that a Lexus?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  It's a telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Regardless, I'm not the first and I won't be the last to tell
       you that your videos and "images" are worthless. Total trash
       that was created to dupe "Outer Space" enthusiasts like you to
       open their wallet for some "equipment" that CREATES and MODIFIES
       and ENHANCES and is "ADAPTIVE" SO THAT YOU WILL see EXACTLY WHAT
       YOU DREAM OF.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have utterly failed to support that claim.  See, you can
       spew whatever nonsense you want but that doesn't make it true.
       You are utterly clueless about how my equipment works and you
       are completely wrong in your claim that it "creates" fake
       images.  The CCD does not modify the image, it just provides raw
       data.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt/tip mirror used
       to keep the stars steady during the exposure, that's all it is,
       it's not magic, it's not the boogey man and it doesn't fake any
       of the images.  The camera and adaptive optics actually have no
       way of knowing what kind of optic they are attached to.  They
       could be attached to any of a variety of telescopes and could
       have various focal reducers attached.  They have no way of know
       what they're pointed at or what they're attached to, so there is
       not even a way for them to theoretically fake the images they
       produce because they'd have no idea what to generate.  I hate to
       break this to you, but technology like this is not telepathic
       and it cannot know what you're "dreaming" of.  It doesn't know
       and it doesn't care, it just records photons of light.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Galaxies and "deep space". Your videos, footage, images and
       descriptions of what your magical equipment does are pure
       bullshit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's nothing magical or fake about it.  You need professional
       mental help.
       [/quote]That's the beauty of it. They tell you what you will see
       and they manufacture the required components. You bought it. Now
       you're seeing things that nobody else sees. Do you get it yet?
       You are one of the select few that SEE . . . because you bought
       the equipment. It's another video game you're playing, that's
       all it is.
       [/quote]
       You still don't get it.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt
       tip mirror, there is no way for it to fake the images.  The CCD
       just gives raw data, it has no way of knowing what it is looking
       at nor can it fake any images.  Don't tell me what my equipment
       does, you have never even seen one of these devices, let alone
       opened it up to inspect the components.  I have.
       #Post#: 5299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: guest74
       Date: April 30, 2019, 6:04 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=LX200 link=topic=409.msg5226#msg5226
       date=1556404483]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5225#msg5225
       date=1556387642]
       > LX200? What, is that a Lexus?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  It's a telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Regardless, I'm not the first and I won't be the last to tell
       you that your videos and "images" are worthless. Total trash
       that was created to dupe "Outer Space" enthusiasts like you to
       open their wallet for some "equipment" that CREATES and MODIFIES
       and ENHANCES and is "ADAPTIVE" SO THAT YOU WILL see EXACTLY WHAT
       YOU DREAM OF.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have utterly failed to support that claim.  See, you can
       spew whatever nonsense you want but that doesn't make it true.
       You are utterly clueless about how my equipment works and you
       are completely wrong in your claim that it "creates" fake
       images.  The CCD does not modify the image, it just provides raw
       data.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt/tip mirror used
       to keep the stars steady during the exposure, that's all it is,
       it's not magic, it's not the boogey man and it doesn't fake any
       of the images.  The camera and adaptive optics actually have no
       way of knowing what kind of optic they are attached to.  They
       could be attached to any of a variety of telescopes and could
       have various focal reducers attached.  They have no way of know
       what they're pointed at or what they're attached to, so there is
       not even a way for them to theoretically fake the images they
       produce because they'd have no idea what to generate.  I hate to
       break this to you, but technology like this is not telepathic
       and it cannot know what you're "dreaming" of.  It doesn't know
       and it doesn't care, it just records photons of light.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Galaxies and "deep space". Your videos, footage, images and
       descriptions of what your magical equipment does are pure
       bullshit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's nothing magical or fake about it.  You need professional
       mental help.
       [/quote]Here's another thing, punk. The next time you question
       my sanity I will delete ALL of your content here and delete your
       IP address. If you can't support your data don't resort to
       personal attack, jackass.
       [/quote]
       Don't try to threaten me.  I'm posting from a VPN, I can change
       my IP address at will.  You are the one resorting to personal
       attacks, so now you're acting as a hypocrite as well.
       #Post#: 5303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: April 30, 2019, 8:48 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: LX200 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5228#msg5228
       date=1556407154]
       > [quote author=LX200 link=topic=409.msg5226#msg5226
       date=1556404483]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5225#msg5225
       date=1556387642]
       > LX200? What, is that a Lexus?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  It's a telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Regardless, I'm not the first and I won't be the last to tell
       you that your videos and "images" are worthless. Total trash
       that was created to dupe "Outer Space" enthusiasts like you to
       open their wallet for some "equipment" that CREATES and MODIFIES
       and ENHANCES and is "ADAPTIVE" SO THAT YOU WILL see EXACTLY WHAT
       YOU DREAM OF.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have utterly failed to support that claim.  See, you can
       spew whatever nonsense you want but that doesn't make it true.
       You are utterly clueless about how my equipment works and you
       are completely wrong in your claim that it "creates" fake
       images.  The CCD does not modify the image, it just provides raw
       data.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt/tip mirror used
       to keep the stars steady during the exposure, that's all it is,
       it's not magic, it's not the boogey man and it doesn't fake any
       of the images.  The camera and adaptive optics actually have no
       way of knowing what kind of optic they are attached to.  They
       could be attached to any of a variety of telescopes and could
       have various focal reducers attached.  They have no way of know
       what they're pointed at or what they're attached to, so there is
       not even a way for them to theoretically fake the images they
       produce because they'd have no idea what to generate.  I hate to
       break this to you, but technology like this is not telepathic
       and it cannot know what you're "dreaming" of.  It doesn't know
       and it doesn't care, it just records photons of light.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Galaxies and "deep space". Your videos, footage, images and
       descriptions of what your magical equipment does are pure
       bullshit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's nothing magical or fake about it.  You need professional
       mental help.
       [/quote]Here's another thing, punk. The next time you question
       my sanity I will delete ALL of your content here and delete your
       IP address. If you can't support your data don't resort to
       personal attack, jackass.
       [/quote]
       Don't try to threaten me.  I'm posting from a VPN, I can change
       my IP address at will.  You are the one resorting to personal
       attacks, so now you're acting as a hypocrite as well.
       [/quote]
       why don't you just tone it down or leave the forum, Please.
       There are others here trying to have serious conversations.
       Blade
       #Post#: 5310--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: guest74
       Date: May 1, 2019, 9:12 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
       >
       > [quote author=LX200 link=topic=409.msg5299#msg5299
       date=1556665478]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5228#msg5228
       date=1556407154]
       > [quote author=LX200 link=topic=409.msg5226#msg5226
       date=1556404483]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=409.msg5225#msg5225
       date=1556387642]
       > LX200? What, is that a Lexus?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  It's a telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Regardless, I'm not the first and I won't be the last to tell
       you that your videos and "images" are worthless. Total trash
       that was created to dupe "Outer Space" enthusiasts like you to
       open their wallet for some "equipment" that CREATES and MODIFIES
       and ENHANCES and is "ADAPTIVE" SO THAT YOU WILL see EXACTLY WHAT
       YOU DREAM OF.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have utterly failed to support that claim.  See, you can
       spew whatever nonsense you want but that doesn't make it true.
       You are utterly clueless about how my equipment works and you
       are completely wrong in your claim that it "creates" fake
       images.  The CCD does not modify the image, it just provides raw
       data.  The adaptive optics unit is just a tilt/tip mirror used
       to keep the stars steady during the exposure, that's all it is,
       it's not magic, it's not the boogey man and it doesn't fake any
       of the images.  The camera and adaptive optics actually have no
       way of knowing what kind of optic they are attached to.  They
       could be attached to any of a variety of telescopes and could
       have various focal reducers attached.  They have no way of know
       what they're pointed at or what they're attached to, so there is
       not even a way for them to theoretically fake the images they
       produce because they'd have no idea what to generate.  I hate to
       break this to you, but technology like this is not telepathic
       and it cannot know what you're "dreaming" of.  It doesn't know
       and it doesn't care, it just records photons of light.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Galaxies and "deep space". Your videos, footage, images and
       descriptions of what your magical equipment does are pure
       bullshit
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's nothing magical or fake about it.  You need professional
       mental help.
       [/quote]Here's another thing, punk. The next time you question
       my sanity I will delete ALL of your content here and delete your
       IP address. If you can't support your data don't resort to
       personal attack, jackass.
       [/quote]
       Don't try to threaten me.  I'm posting from a VPN, I can change
       my IP address at will.  You are the one resorting to personal
       attacks, so now you're acting as a hypocrite as well.
       [/quote]
       why don't you just tone it down or leave the forum, Please.
       There are others here trying to have serious conversations.
       Blade
       [/quote]
       Excuse me?  Calling me a "jackass" is not indicative of someone
       who wants to have a serious conversation.  I will not sit down
       and take it while my images are falsely accused of being fake by
       this forum's owner.  You want me to leave the forum?  Then get
       the owner to admit my images are real and drop his insane
       accusations.  It's that simple.
       #Post#: 5311--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: May 1, 2019, 11:30 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       LX200, I believe that those images are real to you. Why aren't
       they showing them on PBS NOVA or the Discovery channel? Because
       they are not valid, they are not acceptable as REAL. I believe
       that your equipment produces the images and footage. You are not
       seeing distant galaxies from your backyard. BTW, don't insult me
       and I won't call you a jackass and a liar anymore.
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       #Post#: 5317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The forum owner claims I'm a scammer because I use adaptive
       optics
   DIR By: guest74
       Date: May 1, 2019, 1:34 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > LX200, I believe that those images are real to you.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They are real.  Full stop.  They came directly from my telescope
       using nothing but glass, mirrors and a CCD which only delivers
       raw pixel values, not pre-processed data like a consumer grade
       camera.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Why aren't they showing them on PBS NOVA or the Discovery
       channel?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Actually my images have been featured by Discover magazine as
       well as Sky & Telescope.
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > You are not seeing distant galaxies from your backyard.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, I am.
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       You are providing false testimony about a follower of Christ and
       you will answer for it one day.  If you try to censor me, mark
       my words, I will come back and I will not be silenced.  You will
       see what free speech truly means.  So go ahead, keep insulting
       me, and try to ban me.  I will not be stopped.
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