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#Post#: 4674--------------------------------------------------
What is the bare minimum to be a flat earther?
DIR By: Faulty
Date: March 29, 2019, 10:10 pm
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A quick question. When talking to a person (or people) about the
flat earth, and they take a consistent stand of contradicting
everything that is said or shown, what should be the bare
minimum they should know about flat earth concepts for one to
consider their time their discussion to be worthwhile?
I don't mean someone in the process of learning about the
concepts, regardless of if they agree with them or not, but
rather just the aggressive denier. I find myself constantly
being bombarded by people who still think there are no responses
for such simple areas like these, and refuse to consider
otherwise.
1. Ships disappear over the horizon.
2. If you are in Chicago, you should be able to see the Rocky
Mountains. (Or any variant thereof.)
3. Some Greek dude measuring shadows thousands of years ago
proved a ball.
4. One can't navigate around a flat earth.
5. Earth has to be a ball because everything else is.
After confronting this numerous times over the last few months,
I'm seriously considering giving people a quick test to see if
they have even a rudimentary understanding of FE concepts (agree
or not) before even engaging them, just to save my time and
sanity.
Thoughts? Anything to add to the list?
#Post#: 4677--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: March 29, 2019, 10:46 pm
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--- Quote from: Faulty link ---
>
> A quick question. When talking to a person (or people) about
the flat earth, and they take a consistent stand of
contradicting everything that is said or shown, what should be
the bare minimum they should know about flat earth concepts for
one to consider their time their discussion to be worthwhile?
>
> I don't mean someone in the process of learning about the
concepts, regardless of if they agree with them or not, but
rather just the aggressive denier. I find myself constantly
being bombarded by people who still think there are no responses
for such simple areas like these, and refuse to consider
otherwise.
>
> 1. Ships disappear over the horizon.
> 2. If you are in Chicago, you should be able to see the Rocky
Mountains. (Or any variant thereof.)
> 3. Some Greek dude measuring shadows thousands of years ago
proved a ball.
> 4. One can't navigate around a flat earth.
> 5. Earth has to be a ball because everything else is.
>
> After confronting this numerous times over the last few
months, I'm seriously considering giving people a quick test to
see if they have even a rudimentary understanding of FE concepts
(agree or not) before even engaging them, just to save my time
and sanity.
>
> Thoughts? Anything to add to the list?
>
--- End Quote ---
Awesome brother, thank you for posting. I had the same problem
and still do. I am coming to the conclusion that some people can
"get it" and I mean the whole thing, the Bible, the deceptions
of satan starting in the Garden or even before that against
God's will, combined with the pseudoscience of Cosmology. The
heliocentric model being introduced and widely challenged,
proved wrong and disputed for decades before the Vatican and the
Jesuits inserted into every education system in the world and in
every church.
I try to tell people right away that everything we are taught
about space, creation and the origins of man are only theories
and they all deny God. That is science today and after much
research I found the very roots of "science" are from the occult
and go back to Babylon and the Tower of Babel. So I tell folks
that they have never actually seen a real image of earth from
space, Cosmology is pseudoscience, water never curves or bends
and every single thing in science and technology work just as
good or better in the flat earth. I'm talking satellites and
aircraft/rockets etc.
I hope you post more and don't worry about saying the wrong
thing or about what other people think of you here or at the
other forum.
1. Ships disappear over the horizon. They do not, they can be
brought back into view with a good camera or binoculars
2. If you are in Chicago, you should be able to see the Rocky
Mountains. (Or any variant thereof.) The human eye can only see
so far and perspective, line of sight, refraction, lensing and
water in the atmosphere make seeing very long distances
impossible. Besides, there ARE hills and mountains and valleys
etc/
3. Some Greek dude measuring shadows thousands of years ago
proved a ball. - I have a great 10 minute video showing how
Eratosthenes was wrong and his calculations were based on a very
close and small sun. Just like flat earth, plus his calculations
would have worked the same in the flat earth.
4. One can't navigate around a flat earth. Nobody has ever
completed a true circumnavigation, which would be going all the
way around a [color=white]BALL. Around the world simply means
traveling in a circle around the North Pole, lol.[/color]
5. Earth has to be a ball because everything else is. We cannot
see spheres in space. Every image we are shown of planets,
galaxies, stars and deep space are CGI or Artists' Renderings.
#Post#: 4799--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: Faulty
Date: April 5, 2019, 11:15 pm
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Thanks for the response. The morning after I posted this, my
hard drive failed. I wasn't really able to respond for a while.
As it turns out, it was a welcome mental break from the FE
arguments as I waited for my new SSD to arrive, replacing the
old magnetic drive that failed on me.
#Post#: 4802--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: April 6, 2019, 4:07 am
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--- Quote from: Faulty link ---
>
> Thanks for the response. The morning after I posted this, my
hard drive failed. I wasn't really able to respond for a while.
As it turns out, it was a welcome mental break from the FE
arguments as I waited for my new SSD to arrive, replacing the
old magnetic drive that failed on me.
>
--- End Quote ---
Bummer. Glad you're back. How long have been researching FE? Are
you fully convinced, or as much as you can be?
#Post#: 4808--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: Faulty
Date: April 6, 2019, 1:29 pm
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Probably pretty close to two years now. I know you've seen some
of my stuff on CF, under another name.
#Post#: 5142--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: April 23, 2019, 7:01 am
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--- Quote from: Faulty link ---
>
> Probably pretty close to two years now. I know you've seen
some of my stuff on CF, under another name.
>
--- End Quote ---
Only about 16 months for me. I'm no good with science though
really. Are you Jacks Bratt?
#Post#: 5164--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: Faulty
Date: April 24, 2019, 6:51 am
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SeventyOne
#Post#: 6168--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: June 8, 2019, 5:49 pm
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--- Quote from: Faulty link ---
>
> SeventyOne
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes. I remember you. Why are you so quiet here? Are you still
very active at CF? I would love to talk to you more.
#Post#: 15700--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: July 30, 2020, 11:45 pm
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Hello
#Post#: 16972--------------------------------------------------
Re: What is the bare minimum?
DIR By: guest73
Date: September 1, 2020, 12:41 pm
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The bare minimum to be a flat earther is to start to doubt and
question and RESEARCH the earth. Basically, once you are not
100% sure that the earth is a ball flying though space, you are
a flat earther.
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