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       #Post#: 4395--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: March 10, 2019, 10:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Seve link=topic=352.msg4334#msg4334
       date=1552015067]
       >
       >
       >
       > Dear Readers,
       >
       > Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the
       WORLD[size=12pt]S (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God,
       so that things which are seen were not made of things which do
       appear.
       >
       > God tells us we live in a [color=red]MULTIVERSE composed of at
       least 2 or more Universes or Worlds[/color]. The first (Adam’
       world) was totally destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s
       gone forever . ll Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned
       and will also be dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or
       World is forever. Rev. 22:5
       >
       > The first Heaven or World was in the midst of water and later
       destroyed in a Flood.
       > The second Heaven or Word is our present earth or world, which
       is scheduled to be burned.
       > The third Heaven or World is the object of the Creation,
       contains a single city with streets of gold and gates of pearl,
       and it will never die (Rev.21).
       >
       > The first heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 1:6-8
       > The second heaven was made the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4
       > The third heaven was is also made on the THIRD Day. Genesis
       2:4
       >
       > Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavenS (Plural) and a new
       earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into
       mind.
       >
       > Of course, the argument about the "Prehistoric Mankind" being
       not Biblical is only a STRAW MAN'S argument since, our
       Scientists are only using the TERM "prehistoric mankind" to
       describe the people who were here millions of years BEFORE human
       Civilization arrived / discovered in our "Planet of Apes"
       (scientist term) some 10k years ago..... Btw, is the word
       "Trinity" found in the Bible? ... (shaking my head again)
       >
       > Of course, it is just another blatant attempt by our
       opposition to misrepresent the continuing discussion and the
       trust of the posts. I say.... NICE TRY BUT NO CIGAR.
       >
       > As I have illustrated before, the [color=red]sons of God are
       what today's Science calls prehistoric mankind.[/color] They
       were creatures of FLESH, as documented in the context of Gen 6:3
       which made it possible for God to produce 7 Billion Humans on
       Earth today, from Noah's THREE grandsons, and the prehistoric
       people who were here when Noah arrived.
       >
       > Humans came to our present Planet from Adam's World which was
       "clean dissolved" in the waters of the Flood. Adam's direct
       descendant, Noah and his family, arrived on our Earth, some 10k
       years ago and Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced
       to him.
       >
       > The only people on this present Planet Earth when Noah arrived
       were the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) who's been living
       here for millions of years BEFORE Noah's Ark arrived.  As I have
       posted before, these prehistoric people had been created and
       brought forth also from the water, on this Planet, exactly as
       the sons of God were on on the 1st Earth or World.
       >
       > Noah's grandsons (humans), who were born after the Flood, had
       NO other Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they also
       married and produced offspring with prehistoric people who were
       already living here -and NOT affected by the global flood that
       dissolved the first world. You can also read their sexual
       compatibility in Genesis 6:1-4 since both were made of FLESH.
       >
       > History agrees and the odd men out are the False ToE, Scoffers
       of the Last Days and Christian Pretenders/Oppositions who are
       "willingly ignorant" (2Pe 3:5-7) of the total destruction of the
       1st heaven, the world of Adam, and the true Human origins.
       >
       > God bless
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You are basing you belief in multi-verses on Hebrews 11:3
       because it says worlds? It could be that by the tome Hebrews was
       written Pythagoras had already introduced satan's globe model.
       Genesis and all other accounts of creation never mention other
       globes or worlds or universes. Think about it.
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       #Post#: 4404--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: Seve
       Date: March 11, 2019, 3:03 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote=Patrick]You are basing you belief in multi-verses on
       Hebrews 11:3 because it says worlds? It could be that by the
       tome Hebrews was written Pythagoras had already introduced
       satan's globe model. Genesis and all other accounts of creation
       never mention other globes or worlds or universes. Think about
       it.[/quote]
       Dear Patrick,
       I believe, I have provided you enough Scriptural Prooftexts from
       the OT and NT... Scientific discoveries, and Historical facts to
       support my views.... and so far, you have not NOT provided
       anything contrary other wise... aside from your ASSUMPTION.
       Therefore, my postings should stand Uncontested unless you can
       REFUTE  them... contrary to what I have illustrated....using the
       Scripture, Science or History to support your view.
       In fact, here again below the post that I have DIRECTLY REPLIED
       to your post/query... that perhaps, yu are trying to avoid? Now,
       TRY TO REFUTE IT using the Scripture, Science or History... and
       NOT base it to your ASSUMPTION. Thanks
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > Dear Patrick,
       >
       > Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS
       (Multiverse)were framed by the word of God, so that things which
       are seen were not made of things which do appear.
       >
       > In the Old Testament:
       >
       > God told Noah before the flood that the Earth is filled
       violent people and He will destroy them WITH THE EARTH. Gen 6:13
       >
       > In fact, in Isa 24:18-20 … While the Scripture is obviously
       speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water
       during the Flood - the 1st Earth being clean dissolved in water
       when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11) .....
       >
       > .... God also [color=red]set up a snare / trap included in his
       prophecy with regards to our present World on the coming Last
       Days[/color] - to catch those willing ignorant Unbelievers /
       Scoffers of the last days,who do not believe that the first
       Earth - the world of Adam - is gone forever.
       >
       > Below is the complete context of the cited texts above:
       >
       > Isa 24:18-20 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth
       from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that
       cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the
       snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the
       foundations of the earth do shake.
       > v19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean
       dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
       > v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall
       be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall
       be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again
       >
       > In fact in the New Testament, we find that God totally
       destroyed and [color=red]SPARED NOT the Old Earth:[/color]
       >
       > 2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the
       eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the
       flood upon the world of the ungodly
       >
       > Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL
       the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs
       (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located
       underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van
       where it was piace the beginning - [color=orange]were totally
       destroyed / dissolved in the flood.…[/color]
       >
       > 2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the
       word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out
       of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world
       (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water,
       perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)
       >
       > These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that
       Adam's world, the world that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in
       the Flood..... and that the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW,
       will also be dissolved by fire.
       >
       > Scoffers of the end of time, also will choose to be "willingly
       ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the
       same word  (”dissolved” )- is also used again and kept in store
       to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth
       which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be
       “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.
       >
       > 2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the
       same word are kept in store ("dissolved") , reserved unto fire
       against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
       >
       > 2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of
       God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and
       the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
       >
       > But don’t you worry a thing, my friend, Jesus ASSURED us the
       below…
       >
       > Jhn 14:1-2 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God,
       believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS:
       if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a
       place for you.
       >
       > God bless
       >
       --- End Quote ---
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       #Post#: 4566--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: March 23, 2019, 2:20 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > [quote=Patrick]You are basing you belief in multi-verses on
       Hebrews 11:3 because it says worlds? It could be that by the
       tome Hebrews was written Pythagoras had already introduced
       satan's globe model. Genesis and all other accounts of creation
       never mention other globes or worlds or universes. Think about
       it.
       --- End Quote ---
       Dear Patrick,
       I believe, I have provided you enough Scriptural Prooftexts from
       the OT and NT... Scientific discoveries, and Historical facts to
       support my views.... and so far, you have not NOT provided
       anything contrary other wise... aside from your ASSUMPTION.
       Therefore, my postings should stand Uncontested unless you can
       REFUTE  them... contrary to what I have illustrated....using the
       Scripture, Science or History to support your view.
       In fact, here again below the post that I have DIRECTLY REPLIED
       to your post/query... that perhaps, yu are trying to avoid? Now,
       TRY TO REFUTE IT using the Scripture, Science or History... and
       NOT base it to your ASSUMPTION. Thanks
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > Dear Patrick,
       >
       > Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS
       (Multiverse)were framed by the word of God, so that things which
       are seen were not made of things which do appear.
       >
       > In the Old Testament:
       >
       > God told Noah before the flood that the Earth is filled
       violent people and He will destroy them WITH THE EARTH. Gen 6:13
       >
       > In fact, in Isa 24:18-20 … While the Scripture is obviously
       speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water
       during the Flood - the 1st Earth being clean dissolved in water
       when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11) .....
       >
       > .... God also [color=red]set up a snare / trap included in his
       prophecy with regards to our present World on the coming Last
       Days[/color] - to catch those willing ignorant Unbelievers /
       Scoffers of the last days,who do not believe that the first
       Earth - the world of Adam - is gone forever.
       >
       > Below is the complete context of the cited texts above:
       >
       > Isa 24:18-20 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth
       from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that
       cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the
       snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the
       foundations of the earth do shake.
       > v19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean
       dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
       > v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall
       be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall
       be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again
       >
       > In fact in the New Testament, we find that God totally
       destroyed and [color=red]SPARED NOT the Old Earth:[/color]
       >
       > 2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the
       eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the
       flood upon the world of the ungodly
       >
       > Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL
       the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs
       (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located
       underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van
       where it was piace the beginning - [color=orange]were totally
       destroyed / dissolved in the flood.…[/color]
       >
       > 2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the
       word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out
       of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world
       (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water,
       perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)
       >
       > These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that
       Adam's world, the world that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in
       the Flood..... and that the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW,
       will also be dissolved by fire.
       >
       > Scoffers of the end of time, also will choose to be "willingly
       ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the
       same word  (”dissolved” )- is also used again and kept in store
       to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth
       which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be
       “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.
       >
       > 2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the
       same word are kept in store ("dissolved") , reserved unto fire
       against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
       >
       > 2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of
       God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and
       the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
       >
       > But don’t you worry a thing, my friend, Jesus ASSURED us the
       below…
       >
       > Jhn 14:1-2 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God,
       believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS:
       if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a
       place for you.
       >
       > God bless
       >
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       #Post#: 6277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: June 12, 2019, 4:39 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Here here !!!
       #Post#: 6696--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: June 29, 2019, 11:14 am
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Here here !!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Dilly Dilly !!!
       #Post#: 6949--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: July 11, 2019, 5:52 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=352.msg6277#msg6277
       date=1560332352]
       > Here here !!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Dilly Dilly !!!
       [/quote]Chop Chop !!!
       #Post#: 15835--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: August 4, 2020, 1:34 pm
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       yo yo
       #Post#: 17802--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: September 21, 2020, 3:51 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > yo yo
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mysterious
       #Post#: 18706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: October 11, 2020, 10:11 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=352.msg15835#msg15835
       date=1596566078]
       > yo yo
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mysterious
       [/quote] :(
       #Post#: 18857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: October 14, 2020, 3:58 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=352.msg17802#msg17802
       date=1600721519]
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=352.msg15835#msg15835
       date=1596566078]
       > yo yo
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mysterious
       [/quote] :(
       [/quote] 8)
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