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       #Post#: 4336--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: March 8, 2019, 12:21 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > Dear Readers,
       >
       > The only people on Planet Earth when Noah arrived were the
       sons of God (prehistoric mankind). These prehistoric people -
       that moveth - had been created and brought forth also from the
       water, on this Planet, exactly as the sons of God were on Adam's
       Earth.
       >
       > Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, [color=red]AND
       EVERY LIVING CREATURE THAT MOVETH, which the waters brought
       forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after
       his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
       > [/color]
       > This means that we will find living creatures where ever we
       find liquid water, in our Cosmos. It is also a Biblical fact
       that these prehistoric mankind are called [color=red]sons of
       God, because[/color], on the 5th Day, they ALSO received THE
       SAME BLESSING that was also given to Adam and Eve - after they
       were forgiven of their "original sins" - and both were created
       in the image and likeness of God, spiritually, on the 6th Day of
       creation. Gen 5:1-3
       >
       > Gen 1:22-23 [color=red]And God blessed them, saying, Be
       fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let
       fowl multiply in the earth. [/color]v23 And the evening and the
       morning were the FIFTH DAY.
       >
       > Noah's grandsons, who were born after the Flood, had NO other
       Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they married and
       produced offspring with prehistoric people on the first Earth.
       It's PROOF of God, since NO man 3k years ago knew the scientific
       facts.
       >
       > Please Note that the union b/w the sons of God and the
       daughters of men did NOT just happened to just "hook up" for one
       night stand only, perhaps - (just speculating too)... as our
       opposing poster here would like you to believe....
       >
       > BUT, clearly the Scripture is documenting us that they really
       FORMED a union of MARRIAGE together... contrary to our
       opposition' doctrinal teachings. Oh well.... (shaking my head
       again - too many wild imaginations).
       >
       > Gen 6:2-4 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that
       they [were] fair; and they took them [color=red]WIVES[/color] of
       all which they chose.
       >
       > 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with
       man, for that he ALSO [is] FLESH: yet his days shall be an
       hundred and twenty years.
       >
       > Note: the context of the cited Scripture speaks of the union
       b/w the prehistoric mankind or sons of God and the daughters of
       men (humans) who were both MADE of FLESH.
       >
       > As we all know, Angels whether "fallen" or not... are
       spiritual beings and NOT made of flesh ... and created to have
       Eternal spiritual life. Therefore, could not have been the one
       being referred to by the Lord... in the context of  Gen. 6:3...
       regarding... cutting their life span to 120 years only.
       >
       > 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after
       that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,
       and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men
       which [were] of old, men of renown
       >
       > The giants were Intellectual giants in the earth in those
       days; and also after that, when the sons of God (Prehistoric
       people) came in unto the daughters of men,(Hebrew-Adam) and they
       bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of
       old, men of renown.
       >
       > As you can see....and also after that is Prophecy that
       prehistoric people and Adam's descendants would produce
       intellectual giants again. This is important since intellectual
       giants were produced on Planet Earth when Noah's grandsons
       married and produced today's Humans with the prehistoric people
       who were already here when Noah arrived.
       >
       > It's HOW and WHEN (some 10k years ago) the prehistoric people
       on our Earth evolved their Human intelligence.
       >
       > The History of Human civilization, on Planet Earth, can be
       traced to the people who came out of the mountains of Ararat,
       into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia (the Cradle of Human
       civilization) exactly as God tells us in Genesis.
       >
       > Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE....
  HTML http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/fertilemap.html
       >
       > God bless.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]Just thought I would stipulate Prehistoric
       beings are not biblical. The 'Prehistoric' word takes us back to
       Darwin's evolution which has been debunk many times.
       The different kinds of human skulls that are found today most
       likely came from the days of Noah(Gen 6), where the angels (sons
       of GOD) has corrupted everything and everybody (DNA
       manipulation, etc.) except for Noah and His generations (His
       wife and three sons).
       Of course, these so called prehistoric type people would have
       died during the flood. Keep in mind that the entire earth had
       been corrupted and only eight people out of all the population
       survived.......Only the bugs and fish were allowed to live were
       not aboard the ARK.
       ]Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 4338--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: Seve
       Date: March 8, 2019, 3:36 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > Dear Readers,
       >
       > The only people on Planet Earth when Noah arrived were the
       sons of God (prehistoric mankind). These prehistoric people -
       that moveth - had been created and brought forth also from the
       water, on this Planet, exactly as the sons of God were on Adam's
       Earth.
       >
       > Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, [color=red]AND
       EVERY LIVING CREATURE THAT MOVETH, which the waters brought
       forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after
       his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
       > [/color]
       > This means that we will find living creatures where ever we
       find liquid water, in our Cosmos. It is also a Biblical fact
       that these prehistoric mankind are called [color=red]sons of
       God, because[/color], on the 5th Day, they ALSO received THE
       SAME BLESSING that was also given to Adam and Eve - after they
       were forgiven of their "original sins" - and both were created
       in the image and likeness of God, spiritually, on the 6th Day of
       creation. Gen 5:1-3
       >
       > Gen 1:22-23 [color=red]And God blessed them, saying, Be
       fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let
       fowl multiply in the earth. [/color]v23 And the evening and the
       morning were the FIFTH DAY.
       >
       > Noah's grandsons, who were born after the Flood, had NO other
       Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they married and
       produced offspring with prehistoric people on the first Earth.
       It's PROOF of God, since NO man 3k years ago knew the scientific
       facts.
       >
       > Please Note that the union b/w the sons of God and the
       daughters of men did NOT just happened to just "hook up" for one
       night stand only, perhaps - (just speculating too)... as our
       opposing poster here would like you to believe....
       >
       > BUT, clearly the Scripture is documenting us that they really
       FORMED a union of MARRIAGE together... contrary to our
       opposition' doctrinal teachings. Oh well.... (shaking my head
       again - too many wild imaginations).
       >
       > Gen 6:2-4 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that
       they [were] fair; and they took them [color=red]WIVES[/color] of
       all which they chose.
       >
       > 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with
       man, for that he ALSO [is] FLESH: yet his days shall be an
       hundred and twenty years.
       >
       > Note: the context of the cited Scripture speaks of the union
       b/w the prehistoric mankind or sons of God and the daughters of
       men (humans) who were both MADE of FLESH.
       >
       > As we all know, Angels whether "fallen" or not... are
       spiritual beings and NOT made of flesh ... and created to have
       Eternal spiritual life. Therefore, could not have been the one
       being referred to by the Lord... in the context of  Gen. 6:3...
       regarding... cutting their life span to 120 years only.
       >
       > 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after
       that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,
       and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men
       which [were] of old, men of renown
       >
       > The giants were Intellectual giants in the earth in those
       days; and also after that, when the sons of God (Prehistoric
       people) came in unto the daughters of men,(Hebrew-Adam) and they
       bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of
       old, men of renown.
       >
       > As you can see....and also after that is Prophecy that
       prehistoric people and Adam's descendants would produce
       intellectual giants again. This is important since intellectual
       giants were produced on Planet Earth when Noah's grandsons
       married and produced today's Humans with the prehistoric people
       who were already here when Noah arrived.
       >
       > It's HOW and WHEN (some 10k years ago) the prehistoric people
       on our Earth evolved their Human intelligence.
       >
       > The History of Human civilization, on Planet Earth, can be
       traced to the people who came out of the mountains of Ararat,
       into the valleys of Northern Mesopotamia (the Cradle of Human
       civilization) exactly as God tells us in Genesis.
       >
       > Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE....
  HTML http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/fertilemap.html
       >
       > God bless.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
       >
       > [shadow=blue,left]Just thought I would stipulate Prehistoric
       beings are not biblical. The 'Prehistoric' word takes us back to
       Darwin's evolution which has been debunk many times.
       >
       > The different kinds of human skulls that are found today most
       likely came from the days of Noah(Gen 6), where the angels (sons
       of GOD) has corrupted everything and everybody (DNA
       manipulation, etc.) except for Noah and His generations (His
       wife and three sons).
       >
       > Of course, these so called prehistoric type people would have
       died during the flood. Keep in mind that the entire earth had
       been corrupted and only eight people out of all the population
       survived.......Only the bugs and fish were allowed to live were
       not aboard the ARK.
       >
       > ]Blade[/shadow]
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Dear Readers,
       Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS
       (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things
       which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
       God tells us we live in a [color=red]MULTIVERSE composed of at
       least 2 or more Universes or Worlds[/color]. The first (Adam’
       world) was totally destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s
       gone forever . ll Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned
       and will also be dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or
       World is forever. Rev. 22:5
       The first Heaven or World was in the midst of water and later
       destroyed in a Flood.
       The second Heaven or Word is our present earth or world, which
       is scheduled to be burned.
       The third Heaven or World is the object of the Creation,
       contains a single city with streets of gold and gates of pearl,
       and it will never die (Rev.21).
       The first heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 1:6-8
       The second heaven was made the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4
       The third heaven was is also made on the THIRD Day. Genesis 2:4
       Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavenS (Plural) and a new
       earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into
       mind.
       Of course, the argument about the "Prehistoric Mankind" being
       not Biblical is only a STRAW MAN'S argument since, our
       Scientists are only using the TERM "prehistoric mankind" to
       describe the people who were here millions of years BEFORE human
       Civilization arrived / discovered in our "Planet of Apes"
       (scientist term) some 10k years ago..... Btw, is the word
       "Trinity" found in the Bible? ... (shaking my head again)
       Of course, it is just another blatant attempt by our opposition
       to misrepresent the continuing discussion and the trust of the
       posts. I say.... NICE TRY BUT NO CIGAR.
       As I have illustrated before, the [color=red]sons of God are
       what today's Science calls prehistoric mankind.[/color] They
       were creatures of FLESH, as documented in the context of Gen 6:3
       which made it possible for God to produce 7 Billion Humans on
       Earth today, from Noah's THREE grandsons, and the prehistoric
       people who were here when Noah arrived.
       Humans came to our present Planet from Adam's World which was
       "clean dissolved" in the waters of the Flood. Adam's direct
       descendant, Noah and his family, arrived on our Earth, some 10k
       years ago and Human civilization, on this Planet, can be traced
       to him.
       The only people on this present Planet Earth when Noah arrived
       were the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) who's been living
       here for millions of years BEFORE Noah's Ark arrived.  As I have
       posted before, these prehistoric people had been created and
       brought forth also from the water, on this Planet, exactly as
       the sons of God were on on the 1st Earth or World.
       Noah's grandsons (humans), who were born after the Flood, had NO
       other Humans to marry. Like Cain, on Adam's Earth, they also
       married and produced offspring with prehistoric people who were
       already living here -and NOT affected by the global flood that
       dissolved the first world. You can also read their sexual
       compatibility in Genesis 6:1-4 since both were made of FLESH.
       History agrees and the odd men out are the False ToE, Scoffers
       of the Last Days and Christian Pretenders/Oppositions who are
       "willingly ignorant" (2Pe 3:5-7) of the total destruction of the
       1st heaven, the world of Adam, and the true Human origins.
       God bless
       #Post#: 4339--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: March 8, 2019, 6:58 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Seve, there was no first and second "world" - it's called earth
       and the word dissolved does not mean the earth disappeared for a
       new earth. Not Biblical.
       #Post#: 4356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: Seve
       Date: March 8, 2019, 6:34 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote=Seve]Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS
       (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that things
       which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
       God tells us we live in a MULTIVERSE composed of at least 2 or
       more Universes or Worlds. The first (Adam’ world) was totally
       destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s gone forever . ll
       Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned and will also be
       dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or World is forever.
       Rev. 22:5 [/quote]
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Seve, there was no first and second "world" - it's called
       earth and the word dissolved does not mean the earth disappeared
       for a new earth. Not Biblical.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Dear Patrick,
       As I have posted before.... The world of Adam was an enclosed
       Biosphere much smaller than our earth, which was totally
       surrounded by the firmament which protected it from the water
       into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8 .... Adam's Earth was not on
       a Rocky Planet, like the present Earth, since it was "clean
       dissolved" in the Flood, and rocks don't dissolve in water. Isa
       24:19
       Adam’s firmament of heaven or world was placed in the vicinity
       beneath the body of waters in Lake Van, Turkey. It was in a
       completely enclosed Biosphere - protecting Adam's world from
       waters below and above it - like an incubator of Humanity.
       The first firmament of heaven protected the interior of the
       Biosphere of Adam from the water which totally surrounded it.
       When the windows on high were opened and it rained for 40 days
       and nights, the Biosphere began to sink in the water. After 150
       days the water was 22 1/2 feet deep and covered the highest
       hills of that world.
       The first World or Heaven, as God called it, was much smaller
       than our Earth. The entire land had but 4 Rivers while our Earth
       has thousands. When the covered Ark rose upon the water which
       filled the firmament, it passed through the windows onto Lake
       Van, Turkey where it had been all the time, under the water. The
       first world was totally destroyed in water and Noah was brought
       safely to our 2nd Heaven (our present world) , which was made
       the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4
       No Spaceship necessary. It simply passed from one Biosphere to
       another. Soon, all Christians will leave this world and we will
       enter the Third Heaven, just as Noah entered our second Heaven.
       In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, thanks to Jesus.
       God bless
       #Post#: 4365--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: March 8, 2019, 11:44 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > [quote=Seve]Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the
       WORLDS (Multiverse) were framed by the word of God, so that
       things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
       >
       > God tells us we live in a MULTIVERSE composed of at least 2 or
       more Universes or Worlds. The first (Adam’ world) was totally
       destroyed in the Flood - dissolved and it’s gone forever . ll
       Peter 3:6 The present Universe will be burned and will also be
       dissolved. ll Peter 3:10 The third Heaven or World is forever.
       Rev. 22:5
       --- End Quote ---
       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Seve, there was no first and second "world" - it's called
       earth and the word dissolved does not mean the earth disappeared
       for a new earth. Not Biblical.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Dear Patrick,
       As I have posted before.... The world of Adam was an enclosed
       Biosphere much smaller than our earth, which was totally
       surrounded by the firmament which protected it from the water
       into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8 .... Adam's Earth was not on
       a Rocky Planet, like the present Earth, since it was "clean
       dissolved" in the Flood, and rocks don't dissolve in water. Isa
       24:19
       Adam’s firmament of heaven or world was placed in the vicinity
       beneath the body of waters in Lake Van, Turkey. It was in a
       completely enclosed Biosphere - protecting Adam's world from
       waters below and above it - like an incubator of Humanity.
       The first firmament of heaven protected the interior of the
       Biosphere of Adam from the water which totally surrounded it.
       When the windows on high were opened and it rained for 40 days
       and nights, the Biosphere began to sink in the water. After 150
       days the water was 22 1/2 feet deep and covered the highest
       hills of that world.
       The first World or Heaven, as God called it, was much smaller
       than our Earth. The entire land had but 4 Rivers while our Earth
       has thousands. When the covered Ark rose upon the water which
       filled the firmament, it passed through the windows onto Lake
       Van, Turkey where it had been all the time, under the water. The
       first world was totally destroyed in water and Noah was brought
       safely to our 2nd Heaven (our present world) , which was made
       the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4
       No Spaceship necessary. It simply passed from one Biosphere to
       another. Soon, all Christians will leave this world and we will
       enter the Third Heaven, just as Noah entered our second Heaven.
       In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, thanks to Jesus.
       God bless
       [/quote]Bro, I just don't know where you're getting the two
       earths back then. No mention in scripture until the new heaven
       and new earth in the end.
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       #Post#: 4368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: Seve
       Date: March 9, 2019, 4:16 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Dear Patrick,
       Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS
       (Multiverse)were framed by the word of God, so that things which
       are seen were not made of things which do appear.
       In the Old Testament:
       God told Noah before the flood that the Earth is filled violent
       people and He will destroy them WITH THE EARTH. Gen 6:13
       In fact, in Isa 24:18-20 … While the Scripture is obviously
       speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water
       during the Flood - the 1st Earth being clean dissolved in water
       when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11) .....
       .... God also [color=red]set up a snare / trap included in his
       prophecy with regards to our present World on the coming Last
       Days[/color] - to catch those willing ignorant Unbelievers /
       Scoffers of the last days,who do not believe that the first
       Earth - the world of Adam - is gone forever.
       Below is the complete context of the cited texts above:
       Isa 24:18-20 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from
       the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that
       cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the
       snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the
       foundations of the earth do shake.
       v19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean
       dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
       v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall
       be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall
       be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again
       In fact in the New Testament, we find that God totally destroyed
       and [color=red]SPARED NOT the Old Earth:[/color]
       2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the
       eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the
       flood upon the world of the ungodly
       Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL
       the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs
       (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located
       underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van
       where it was piace the beginning - [color=orange]were totally
       destroyed / dissolved in the flood.…[/color]
       2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the
       word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out
       of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world
       (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water,
       perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)
       These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that Adam's
       world, the world that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in the
       Flood..... and that the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW, will
       also be dissolved by fire.
       Scoffers of the end of time, also will choose to be "willingly
       ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the
       same word  (”dissolved” )- is also used again and kept in store
       to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth
       which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be
       “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.
       2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the
       same word are kept in store ("dissolved") , reserved unto fire
       against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
       2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of
       God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and
       the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
       But don’t you worry a thing, my friend, Jesus ASSURED us the
       below…
       Jhn 14:1-2 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God,
       believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS:
       if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a
       place for you.
       God bless
       #Post#: 4389--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: March 10, 2019, 6:47 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > Dear Patrick,
       >
       > Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the WORLDS
       (Multiverse)were framed by the word of God, so that things which
       are seen were not made of things which do appear.
       >
       > In the Old Testament:
       >
       > God told Noah before the flood that the Earth is filled
       violent people and He will destroy them WITH THE EARTH. Gen 6:13
       >
       > In fact, in Isa 24:18-20 … While the Scripture is obviously
       speaking of Adam's world being completely destroyed in water
       during the Flood - the 1st Earth being clean dissolved in water
       when the windows of their heaven were opened (Gen 7:11) .....
       >
       > .... God also [color=red]set up a snare / trap included in his
       prophecy with regards to our present World on the coming Last
       Days[/color] - to catch those willing ignorant Unbelievers /
       Scoffers of the last days,who do not believe that the first
       Earth - the world of Adam - is gone forever.
       >
       > Below is the complete context of the cited texts above:
       >
       > Isa 24:18-20 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth
       from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that
       cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the
       snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the
       foundations of the earth do shake.
       > v19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean
       dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
       > v20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall
       be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall
       be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again
       >
       > In fact in the New Testament, we find that God totally
       destroyed and [color=red]SPARED NOT the Old Earth:[/color]
       >
       > 2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the
       eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the
       flood upon the world of the ungodly
       >
       > Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL
       the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs
       (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located
       underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van
       where it was piace the beginning - [color=orange]were totally
       destroyed / dissolved in the flood.…[/color]
       >
       > 2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the
       word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out
       of the water and in the water: v6 Whereby the world
       (Greek-Kosmos) that THEN WAS, being overflowed with water,
       perished: (Greek-destroyed, totally)
       >
       > These verses from the Old and New Testament confirm that
       Adam's world, the world that THEN WAS, was totally destroyed in
       the Flood..... and that the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW,
       will also be dissolved by fire.
       >
       > Scoffers of the end of time, also will choose to be "willingly
       ignorant" of this event which Isaiah describes. In fact, the
       same word  (”dissolved” )- is also used again and kept in store
       to describe the upcoming prophecy of the new heaven and earth
       which are now, reserved for fire - and will melt and shall be
       “dissolved” , by its fervent heat.
       >
       > 2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, WHICH ARE NOW, by the
       same word are kept in store ("dissolved") , reserved unto fire
       against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
       >
       > 2PE 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of
       God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and
       the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
       >
       > But don’t you worry a thing, my friend, Jesus ASSURED us the
       below…
       >
       > Jhn 14:1-2 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God,
       believe also in me. v2 In my Father's house are MANY MANSIONS:
       if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a
       place for you.
       >
       > God bless
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [shadow=blue,left]Seve... it sounds like you do not believe in
       the WORD of GOD...It also appears you are one of those scoffers
       and are ill informed as you said:
       "Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL
       the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs
       (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located
       underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van
       where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed /
       dissolved in the flood…
       75 miles wide in Lake Van,,,, really?
       So Sad
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 4390--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: Seve
       Date: March 10, 2019, 7:42 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       [quote=Blade]Seve... it sounds like you do not believe in the
       WORD of GOD...It also appears you are one of those scoffers and
       are ill informed as you said:
       "Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that ALL
       the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs
       (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located
       underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van
       where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed /
       dissolved in the flood…
       75 miles wide in Lake Van,,,, really?
       So Sad
       Blade[/quote]
       YES, it's really [color=orange]SAD dealing with "WILLINGLY
       IGNORANT" PERSON LIKE YOU... I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE FOOLISH
       A PERSON CAN BECOME??? [/color] Continue reading below Blade....
       1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe?
       [color=red]where is the disputer of this world? hath not God
       [size=14pt]made foolish the wisdom of this world?[/size][/color]
       Oh well..... for your further education that might help you,
       Blade.....
       Image result for how wide is lake van, turkey
       Lake Van. Lake Van, Turkish Van Gölü, lake, largest body of
       water in Turkey and the second largest in the Middle East. The
       lake is located in the region of eastern Anatolia near the
       border of Iran. It covers an area of 1,434 square miles (3,713
       square km) and is [color=red]more than 74 miles (119 km) across
       at its widest point[/color].
       Lake Van | lake, Turkey | Britannica.com
  HTML https://www.britannica.com/place/Lake-Van
       #Post#: 4391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: March 10, 2019, 8:59 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > [quote=Blade]Seve... it sounds like you do not believe in the
       WORD of GOD...It also appears you are one of those scoffers and
       are ill informed as you said:
       >
       > "Of course, Scoffers of the last days will NOT believe that
       ALL the inhabitants thereof including our friend Blade’s bugs
       (except those in the Ark)... together with the 1st Earth located
       underneath the SURFACE of the water of 75 miles wide in Lake Van
       where it was piace the beginning - were totally destroyed /
       dissolved in the flood…
       >
       > 75 miles wide in Lake Van,,,, really?
       >
       > So Sad
       >
       > Blade
       --- End Quote ---
       YES, it's really [color=orange]SAD dealing with "WILLINGLY
       IGNORANT" PERSON LIKE YOU... I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE FOOLISH
       A PERSON CAN BECOME??? [/color] Continue reading below Blade....
       1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe?
       [color=red]where is the disputer of this world? hath not God
       [size=14pt]made foolish the wisdom of this world?[/size][/color]
       Oh well..... for your further education that might help you,
       Blade.....
       Image result for how wide is lake van, turkey
       Lake Van. Lake Van, Turkish Van Gölü, lake, largest body of
       water in Turkey and the second largest in the Middle East. The
       lake is located in the region of eastern Anatolia near the
       border of Iran. It covers an area of 1,434 square miles (3,713
       square km) and is [color=red]more than 74 miles (119 km) across
       at its widest point[/color].
       Lake Van | lake, Turkey | Britannica.com
  HTML https://www.britannica.com/place/Lake-Van
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Noah's Flood covered the entire world not
       something the size of a big lake...THE WHOLE WORLD!
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 4394--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
   DIR By: Seve
       Date: March 10, 2019, 9:32 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
       >
       >
       > [shadow=blue,left]Noah's Flood covered the entire world not
       something the size of a big lake...THE WHOLE WORLD!
       >
       > Blade[/shadow]
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Correct, The flood covers [color=red]the isolated ENTIRE WORLD
       OF ADAM .... which was much much smaller than our present
       world[/color]... continue reading my previous postings below...
       for your additional learning, in case you missed it...
       --- Quote from: Seve link ---
       >
       > As I have posted previously…. Adam's world was FLAT and much
       smaller than our present world. It's highest point is only about
       22 1/2 feet above sea level, Gen 7:20 while our earth’ highest
       elevation is some 29k ft. above sea level in comparison. Their
       entire Earth had only 4 Rivers while the present World has
       thousands of Rivers all over the face of the earth, indicating
       it was much much smaller than our Earth.
       >
       > Adam’s firmament of heaven was placed in the vicinity beneath
       the body of waters in Lake Van, Turkey. It was in a completely
       enclosed Biosphere - protecting Adam's world from waters below
       and above it - like an incubator of Humanity.
       >
       > Here are some model images of Ancient Hebrew Perspective of
       Flat Earth - simili - for reference only - Adam's firmament of
       heaven - surrounded by waters below and above it - see link
       below....
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.pinterest.ph/pin/113715959316206919/
       >
       > Adam’s world was contained beneath the surface of Lake Van,
       Turkey were it was placed in the beginning during the making of
       our worlds.
       >
       > During the great flood, Noah’ Ark was above the highest
       mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft.). The firmament, in which
       Adam's Earth was contained -- end up floating in Lake Van,
       Turkey, the largest Lake in Turkey. It's in the mountains of
       Ararat and is some 75 miles wide.
       >
       > We know this because In the New Testament, we were told that
       their heaven and earth.... “ Whereby that the world THEN WAS --
       standing out of the water and in the water -- being overflowed
       with water, perished” (Greek- totally destroyed) 2Pet 3:5-6
       >
       > The Ark which was covered, floated out the top of Adam's
       firmament into the largest Lake in the area (Lake Van) when the
       windows of their heaven opened and the flood gates of waters
       rushes in the firmament,.... as the firmament sank and released
       the Ark into our world , thus, Adam’s world was totally
       destroyed / dissolved in the Global Flood. If it sounds like
       Atlantis, so be it.
       >
       > This explains a way for a 450 foot Ark to be above the highest
       mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft) ref. Gen 7:20 ...AND....in
       the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood
       began (Gen 8:4).
       >
       > Our God is awesome God.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       By the way, thank you for allowing me to further EXPLAIN and
       CLARIFY my Biblical position of the matter to our other readers
       of this Message Board. I like repeating myself for strengthening
       the learning foundation of others.
       God bless our Open Minded Audience. May the good Lord share us
       more wisdom and understanding!
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