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#Post#: 4106--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: February 24, 2019, 12:34 pm
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--- Quote from: Seve link ---
>
> Dear Readers,
>
> God also tells us HOW and WHEN the prehistoric people on our
present Earth inherited the Human intelligence which is unique
to Adam and his descendants. God calls prehistoric people whose
origin was in the water on Day 5, is called the sons of God. Gen
1:21
>
> The sons of God (prehistoric people) married and produced the
Humans on the first Earth, which was totally destroyed in the
Flood. Genesis 4 tells us that Cain married and produced Enoch,
his son, with a woman who could ONLY have brought forth from the
water, as God told us in Gen 1:21.
>
> Today's Science confirms that EVERY living creature MUST have
water to live since EVERY cell in our body would die without it.
No Ancient Man could have possibly known this.
>
> Read it for yourself:
>
> Gen. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and
also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters
of men (Heb-Adam), and they bare children to them, the same
became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
>
> The giants were giants intellectually as is shown at the end
of the verse. They were the Humans of the first Earth, and they
had agriculture, smelting, city building, and technology with
little of NO evolution. Adam farmed with NO evolution, and Cain
built a city with NO evolution, showing that Human intelligence
is Superior to ANY creature made from the water.
>
> The fulfillment of the prophecy of "and also after that" was
fulfilled when Noah brought the human intelligence of Adam to
Northern Mesopotamia in the mountains of Ararat. This happened
some 10k years ago and the FIRST human cities and the FIRST
agriculture, and the ONLY Human civilization on our Earth,
PROVES it.
>
> SUDDENLY, the sons of God, (prehistoric people) evolved the
Human intelligence of Adam and changed from animal to Human
intelligence. Prehistoric man settled down, built houses,
cities, and developed math and writing, proving that anything is
possible IF you have the intelligence of the first Human, Adam.
Below is the empirical record of the arrival of the first Humans
on this Earth:
>
>
HTML http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html
>
> Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE....
HTML http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/fertilemap.html
>
> In less than 1% of the time since the sons of God diverged
from Chimps, on this Planet, they went from Caves to the Moon
and back, and yet Evolutionists seem to be totally ignorant of
this Fact. Humans also inherited the ERVs of the common ancestor
of Chimps BUT Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor,
but from our own common ancestor whose name is Adam.
>
> God bless
>
--- End Quote ---
Wait, you believe in evolution? Then you must believe the Big
Bang. Insane !!!
#Post#: 4109--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 24, 2019, 1:41 pm
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Dear Patrick,
YES....I believe in descend with modification within its kinds
or what they described as micro-evolution.
Example:
The FIRST words of Adam as documented in the Scripture
describes changes within His kinds or evolution.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh
of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken
out of Man.
Some godless men also call it “evolution” when two produce one.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and
mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be
one flesh?
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother,
and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one
flesh.
Evolution is the measured change in the genetics when two
separate beings produce another totally separate individual, in
a population, over time.
Gen 6:1-4 also shows that the sons of God (prehistoric people)
can produce children with Adam's descendants and in the process,
the children change from animal thinking to the Superior Human
intelligence of Adam, which is like God's. Gen 3:22
IOW, In order to become a Human, you MUST inherit the Human
intelligence of Adam, the first Human. That's God's Truth.
Don't believe the words of Godless Evols since they CANNOT show
us How or When we magically evolved from Ape to Human
Intelligence
God bless
#Post#: 4112--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 24, 2019, 7:17 pm
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--- Quote from: Seve link ---
>
> Dear Patrick,
>
> YES....I believe in descend with modification within its kinds
or what they described as micro-evolution.
>
> Example:
>
> The FIRST words of Adam as documented in the Scripture
describes changes within His kinds or evolution.
>
> Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and
flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was
taken out of Man.
>
> Some godless men also call it “evolution” when two produce
one.
>
> Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one
flesh.
> Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and
mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be
one flesh?
> Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and
mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be
one flesh.
>
> Evolution is the measured change in the genetics when two
separate beings produce another totally separate individual, in
a population, over time.
>
> Gen 6:1-4 also shows that the sons of God (prehistoric people)
can produce children with Adam's descendants and in the process,
the children change from animal thinking to the Superior Human
intelligence of Adam, which is like God's. Gen 3:22
>
> IOW, In order to become a Human, you MUST inherit the Human
intelligence of Adam, the first Human. That's God's Truth.
>
> Don't believe the words of Godless Evols since they CANNOT
show us How or When we magically evolved from Ape to Human
Intelligence
>
> God bless
>
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]Hi Seve.... I think your definition of "and
they shall be one flesh." is wrong. This pertains to the Man and
wife only and that short period of time where both of them
become ONE. This oneness yet two separate entities is akin to
the Trinity of GOD where three separate entities are ONE GOD.
It also denotes that the Man and Wife shall acts as ONE instead
of the two they are in their day to day lives especially in the
worship of God.
People forget this and is the reason why there is a high
percentage of divorces in America. The Man and Wife is a team
that need to pull together like an old pair of mules. A pretty
sight altogether.
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 4122--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 24, 2019, 10:30 pm
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[quote=blade]Hi Seve.... I think your definition of "and they
shall be one flesh." is wrong. This pertains to the Man and wife
only and that short period of time where both of them become
ONE. This oneness yet two separate entities is akin to the
Trinity of GOD where three separate entities are ONE
GOD.[/quote]
That's not my definition but the definition of some godless
evol's as I have indicated in my post ....
--- Quote ---
> Some godless men also call it “evolution” when two
produce one.
--- End Quote ---
..... and the continuing topic of my quotes has nothing to do
with your argument about the "Trinity of God" which you are
trying to intentionally convolute the separate topic / posting
together for fallacious argument / distortion.
TRY AGAIN.
This time do not divert the thrust of my post with regards to
the continuing discussion above -- micro-evolution or descent
with modification of the forming of Union between the sons of
God (prehistoric mankind) and the daughter's of me (humans)
producing offspring of might men of old. Gen 6:1-4
In other words, see if you can refute that ... if not... I
understand.
God bless
#Post#: 4124--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 24, 2019, 11:35 pm
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--- Quote from: Seve link ---
>
> [quote=blade]Hi Seve.... I think your definition of "and they
shall be one flesh." is wrong. This pertains to the Man and wife
only and that short period of time where both of them become
ONE. This oneness yet two separate entities is akin to the
Trinity of GOD where three separate entities are ONE GOD.
--- End Quote ---
That's not my definition but the definition of some godless
evol's as I have indicated in my post ....
--- Quote ---
> Some godless men also call it “evolution” when two produce
one.
--- End Quote ---
..... and the continuing topic of my quotes has nothing to do
with your argument about the "Trinity of God" which you are
trying to intentionally convolute the separate topic / posting
together for fallacious argument / distortion.
TRY AGAIN.
This time do not divert the thrust of my post with regards to
the continuing discussion above -- micro-evolution or descent
with modification of the forming of Union between the sons of
God (prehistoric mankind) and the daughter's of me (humans)
producing offspring of might men of old. Gen 6:1-4
In other words, see if you can refute that ... if not... I
understand.
God bless
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Seve, when you put this information in your
posts outside of quotes, it is of course your
thoughts.right????/
On Gen 6, you are speaking about sethites which did not happen.
The sons of GOD were that took the daughters of men.....were
nothing short of fallen angels. simple as that.
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 4126--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 25, 2019, 5:56 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=Seve link=topic=352.msg4122#msg4122
date=1551069033]
> [quote=blade]Hi Seve.... I think your definition of "and they
shall be one flesh." is wrong. This pertains to the Man and wife
only and that short period of time where both of them become
ONE. This oneness yet two separate entities is akin to the
Trinity of GOD where three separate entities are ONE GOD.
--- End Quote ---
That's not my definition but the definition of some godless
evol's as I have indicated in my post ....
--- Quote ---
> Some godless men also call it “evolution” when two produce
one.
--- End Quote ---
..... and the continuing topic of my quotes has nothing to do
with your argument about the "Trinity of God" which you are
trying to intentionally convolute the separate topic / posting
together for fallacious argument / distortion.
TRY AGAIN.
This time do not divert the thrust of my post with regards to
the continuing discussion above -- micro-evolution or descent
with modification of the forming of Union between the sons of
God (prehistoric mankind) and the daughter's of me (humans)
producing offspring of might men of old. Gen 6:1-4
In other words, see if you can refute that ... if not... I
understand.
God bless
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Seve, when you put this information in your
posts outside of quotes, it is of course your
thoughts.right????/
On Gen 6, you are speaking about sethites which did not happen.
The sons of GOD were that took the daughters of men.....were
nothing short of fallen angels. simple as that.
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
Dear Blade,
Of course not, everything I post is based on my Scriptural
analogies supported by Biblical prooftexts.
Allow me to explain further your misunderstanding of the cited
text below for your better knowledge and additional learning
once again. Don't worry, It's free of charge. :-)
The context of the verses below should be suffice enough to
REFUTE your ERRORS and WILD IMAGINATIONS of the issue at hand.
[Gen 6:2-6 KJV] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men
that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which
they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always
strive with man, [color=red]for that he[color=orange] ALSO [is]
flesh[/color]: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty
years[/color]. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days;
and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the
daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same
[became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown. 5*And
GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and
[that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only
evil continually. 6*And it repented the LORD that he had made
man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Obviously, the Lord was totally disgusted to see the daughters
of men forming a union of marriage with the prehistoric beings
or sons of God. Gen 6:3 since the Lord knows that those
combinations would produce men of brutish beast - mighty men of
old. Therefore, he cuts mankind's lifespan to 90%. The more
older the Heathens get, the more meaner they get.
And for your further information, Angels are spiritual beings
and NOT made of Flesh as documented in the Scripture. However,
prehistoric people or sons of God were made of Flesh like any
other humans beings made of flesh, and as documented in the
Scripture - Gen 6:3
God bless
#Post#: 4131--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 25, 2019, 10:18 am
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Seve link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=352.msg4124#msg4124
date=1551072919]
> [quote author=Seve link=topic=352.msg4122#msg4122
date=1551069033]
> [quote=blade]Hi Seve.... I think your definition of "and they
shall be one flesh." is wrong. This pertains to the Man and wife
only and that short period of time where both of them become
ONE. This oneness yet two separate entities is akin to the
Trinity of GOD where three separate entities are ONE GOD.
--- End Quote ---
That's not my definition but the definition of some godless
evol's as I have indicated in my post ....
--- Quote ---
> Some godless men also call it “evolution” when two produce
one.
--- End Quote ---
..... and the continuing topic of my quotes has nothing to do
with your argument about the "Trinity of God" which you are
trying to intentionally convolute the separate topic / posting
together for fallacious argument / distortion.
TRY AGAIN.
This time do not divert the thrust of my post with regards to
the continuing discussion above -- micro-evolution or descent
with modification of the forming of Union between the sons of
God (prehistoric mankind) and the daughter's of me (humans)
producing offspring of might men of old. Gen 6:1-4
In other words, see if you can refute that ... if not... I
understand.
God bless
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Seve, when you put this information in your
posts outside of quotes, it is of course your
thoughts.right????/
On Gen 6, you are speaking about sethites which did not happen.
The sons of GOD were that took the daughters of men.....were
nothing short of fallen angels. simple as that.
Blade[/shadow]
[/quote]
Dear Blade,
Of course not, everything I post is based on my Scriptural
analogies supported by Biblical prooftexts.
Allow me to explain further your misunderstanding of the cited
text below for your better knowledge and additional learning
once again. Don't worry, It's free of charge. :-)
The context of the verses below should be suffice enough to
REFUTE your ERRORS and WILD IMAGINATIONS of the issue at hand.
[Gen 6:2-6 KJV] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men
that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which
they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always
strive with man, [color=red]for that he[color=orange] ALSO [is]
flesh[/color]: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty
years[/color]. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days;
and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the
daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same
[became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown. 5*And
GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and
[that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only
evil continually. 6*And it repented the LORD that he had made
man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Obviously, the Lord was totally disgusted to see the daughters
of men forming a union of marriage with the prehistoric beings
or sons of God. Gen 6:3 since the Lord knows that those
combinations would produce men of brutish beast - mighty men of
old. Therefore, he cuts mankind's lifespan to 90%. The more
older the Heathens get, the more meaner they get.
[color=orange]And for your further information, Angels are
spiritual beings and NOT made of Flesh[/color] as documented in
the Scripture. However, prehistoric people or sons of God were
made of Flesh like any other humans beings made of flesh, and as
documented in the Scripture - Gen 6:3
God bless
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]
Seve...... I have presented the facts according to the Bible ,
GOD's WORD. It is your choice to accept it or not.
However, one item caught my eye and you said:"And for your
further information, Angels are spiritual beings and NOT made of
Flesh"
Angels throughout the Bible have taken human form and have even
eaten (Human) food. I'll not go into it at this time.... but it
is pretty well proven that the fallen angels are the ones to
take to the daughters of men and giants were born out of these
"hook ups".
p.s. Seve:I don't understand a lot of things that went on that
is recorded in the Bible via God's WORD...But then all I really
have to do is believe in the WORD of GOD and have faith in my
Lord Jesus Christ that His promises, His WORD (Bible, KJV) is
TRUE.
Have a good day...
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 4197--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 28, 2019, 4:16 am
---------------------------------------------------------
[quote=Blade]Seve...... I have presented the facts according to
the Bible , GOD's WORD. It is your choice to accept it or not.
However, one item caught my eye and you said:"And for your
further information, Angels are spiritual beings and NOT made of
Flesh"
Angels throughout the Bible have taken human form and have even
eaten (Human) food. I'll not go into it at this time.... but it
is pretty well proven that the fallen angels are the ones to
take to the daughters of men and giants were born out of these
"hook ups".
p.s. Seve:I don't understand a lot of things that went on that
is recorded in the Bible via God's WORD...But then all I really
have to do is believe in the WORD of GOD and have faith in my
Lord Jesus Christ that His promises, His WORD (Bible, KJV) is
TRUE.
Have a good day...
Blade [/quote]
Dear Blade,
FYI...Fallen Angels are kept in chains under the darkness until
Judgment. Jude 1:6 . So please explain Scripturally HOW fallen
Angels, who do NOT marry nor produce children with Humans, got
out of their Chains, came to Earth and produced these Giants?
And the "Angels" who appeared unto Abraham and unto other people
of God in the OT - who also temporarily[color=red] took the form
of a flesh (but NOT really MADE of flesh) together with our Lord
YHWH[/color], were NOT "Fallen Angels" but Angels of God or
Messengers of God, representing the Triune of God.
Btw, Angels don't physically Die since they are MADE eternal
spiritual beings and would have been contrary with regards the
limited life span as commandment by the Lord in Gen 6:3...
simply because they are NOT MADE of flesh.
Have a nice day as well.
God bless
#Post#: 4202--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Firestarter
Date: February 28, 2019, 10:39 am
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Even the story of Noah's ark was an imitation of the Sumerian
(actually Scythian) of the Annunaki Enlil who decides to flood
earth to exterminate all beings.
His half-brother and/or son Enki doesn’t agree, so warns
Atra-hasis (a.k.a. Utnapishtim) to build an Ark and fill it with
animals. After the waters receded, he released the animals to
repopulate the planet:
HTML https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1093&start=20#p5810
#Post#: 4211--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 28, 2019, 8:10 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: Seve link ---
>
> [quote=Blade]Seve...... I have presented the facts according
to the Bible , GOD's WORD. It is your choice to accept it or
not.
>
> However, one item caught my eye and you said:"And for your
further information, Angels are spiritual beings and NOT made of
Flesh"
>
> Angels throughout the Bible have taken human form and have
even eaten (Human) food. I'll not go into it at this time....
but it is pretty well proven that the fallen angels are the ones
to take to the daughters of men and giants were born out of
these "hook ups".
>
> p.s. Seve:I don't understand a lot of things that went on that
is recorded in the Bible via God's WORD...But then all I really
have to do is believe in the WORD of GOD and have faith in my
Lord Jesus Christ that His promises, His WORD (Bible, KJV) is
TRUE.
>
> Have a good day...
>
> Blade
--- End Quote ---
Dear Blade,
[color=orange]FYI...Fallen Angels are kept in chains under the
darkness until Judgment. Jude 1:6 . So please[color=red] explain
Scripturally HOW fallen Angels, who do NOT marry nor produce
children with Humans, got out of their Chains, came to Earth and
produced these Giants?[/color][/color]
And the "Angels" who appeared unto Abraham and unto other people
of God in the OT - who also temporarily[color=red] took the form
of a flesh (but NOT really MADE of flesh) together with our Lord
YHWH[/color], were NOT "Fallen Angels" but Angels of God or
Messengers of God, representing the Triune of God.
Btw, Angels don't physically Die since they are MADE eternal
spiritual beings and would have been contrary with regards the
limited life span as commandment by the Lord in Gen 6:3...
simply because they are NOT MADE of flesh.
Have a nice day as well.
God bless
[/quote]
[shadow=Blue,left]you said: "[color=orange]FYI...Fallen Angels
are kept in chains under the darkness until Judgment. Jude 1:6 .
So please[color=red] explain Scripturally HOW fallen Angels, who
do NOT marry nor produce children with Humans, got out of their
Chains, came to Earth and produced these
Giants?[/color][/color]"
Seve, would be glad to explain this to you.
It all starts in Gen 6:2 (KJV).."That the sons of God saw the
daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives
of all which they chose."
The "sons of GOD" are Fallen Angels and the result of their
union with the daughters of men, giants became a part of the
landscape (earth).
Gen 6:4 (KJV).. "[U]There were giants in the earth in those
days;[/U] and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto
the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same
became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
And as you correctly stated; Jude 1:6 (KJV)..."And the angels
which kept not their first estate, but left their own
habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under
darkness unto the judgment of the great day."
we see that God gives a specific time for this corruption of
earth to continue. And that time was until Noah's Flood.
In Gen 3:6 (KJV).."And the LORD said, My spirit shall not
always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days
shall be an hundred and twenty years."
To what extent is the problem God faces:Gen 6:12 (KJV)..."And
God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all
flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth."
The Lord's decision is made; Gen 6:7 (KJV)..."And the LORD
said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of
the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the
fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."
Thus enters Noah and His Family, who GOD tells us is perfect in
HIS Generations. Perfect would mean that HIS DNA and His
Families DNA are perfect.
Gen 6:9..(KJV)....."These are the generations of Noah: Noah was
a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with
God.
God allowed the son's of Noah, Gen 6:10(KJV)...."And Noah begat
three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth." to take wives from the
corrupt population he was fixing to destroy.
Gen 6:18.(KJV)..."But with thee will I establish my covenant;
and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy
wife, and thy sons' wives with thee."
Notice the Son's wives were not described as perfect by GOD,
Only NOAH and His generations which would include His wife. For
if the wife is corrupt the generations would also be corrupt.
After the Flood had subsided, the children of Noah's Sons would
have been the generations corrupt with Giants. Ham's generations
had many, Japheth had one giant in all his generations and Shem
had none in His generations.
As you see, the Sons of GOD that are locked up are still there
but their legacy still lives on.
One other note Seve: Lucifer had fallen with 1/3 of the angels.
That is a lot of angels. Most of them are still in heaven but in
the "Great Tribulation", the 2nd Half of Daniel's 70th week,
they with Satan are thrown out by Michael, the Arch Angel and
the other 2/3 of the Angels.
I also understand that Angels for the most part are spirit in
nature.
How they "hooked up" with the daughters of Men, I do not know
but can only follow GOD's WORD literally.
Blade
[/shadow]
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