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#Post#: 3775--------------------------------------------------
Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 9, 2019, 9:28 pm
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In order to understand the Flood, one must understand the
following:
The world of Adam was an enclosed Biosphere much smaller than
our earth, which was totally surrounded by the firmament which
protected it from the water into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8
.... Adam's Earth was not on a Rocky Planet, like the present
Earth, since it was "clean dissolved" in the Flood, and rocks
don't dissolve in water. Isa 24:19
This Earth, the Earth of Adam, was FLAT. It's highest point is
only about 22 1/2 feet above sea level, Gen 7:20 .... while our
earth’ highest elevation is some 29k ft. above sea level in
comparison. Their entire Earth had only 4 Rivers while our
present World has thousands of Rivers all over the face of the
earth, indicating it was much much smaller than our Earth.
During the Great Flood, Noah and the Ark were 22 1/2 ft above
Adam's Earth on the 150th Day after the Flood began. At this
depth the mountains of that Earth were covered in water. Gen
7:20. On the SAME 150th Day after the Flood began, the Ark
rested upon the mountains of Ararat. Gen 8:4
That's one of the mysteries. HOW could the Ark be in both places
on the SAME Day?
#Post#: 3777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: February 9, 2019, 9:35 pm
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--- Quote from: Seve link ---
>
> In order to understand the Flood, one must understand the
following:
>
> The world of Adam was an enclosed Biosphere much smaller than
our earth, which was totally surrounded by the firmament which
protected it from the water into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8
.... Adam's Earth was not on a Rocky Planet, like the present
Earth, since it was "clean dissolved" in the Flood, and rocks
don't dissolve in water. Isa 24:19
>
> This Earth, the Earth of Adam, was FLAT. It's highest point is
only about 22 1/2 feet above sea level, Gen 7:20 .... while our
earth’ highest elevation is some 29k ft. above sea level in
comparison. Their entire Earth had only 4 Rivers while our
present World has thousands of Rivers all over the face of the
earth, indicating it was much much smaller than our Earth.
>
> During the Great Flood, Noah and the Ark were 22 1/2 ft above
Adam's Earth on the 150th Day after the Flood began. At this
depth the mountains of that Earth were covered in water. Gen
7:20. On the SAME 150th Day after the Flood began, the Ark
rested upon the mountains of Ararat. Gen 8:4
>
> That's one of the mysteries. HOW could the Ark be in both
places on the SAME Day?
>
>
--- End Quote ---
I disagree with most of that. The earth wasn't smaller and it's
still huge and flat. There was no new earth after the flood.
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#Post#: 3782--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 10, 2019, 1:47 am
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As I have posted previously…. Adam's world was FLAT and much
smaller than our present world. It's highest point is only about
22 1/2 feet above sea level, Gen 7:20 while our earth’ highest
elevation is some 29k ft. above sea level in comparison. Their
entire Earth had only 4 Rivers while the present World has
thousands of Rivers all over the face of the earth, indicating
it was much much smaller than our Earth.
Adam’s firmament of heaven was placed in the vicinity beneath
the body of waters in Lake Van, Turkey. It was in a completely
enclosed Biosphere - protecting Adam's world from waters below
and above it - like an incubator of Humanity.
Here are some model images of Ancient Hebrew Perspective of Flat
Earth - simili - for reference only - Adam's firmament of heaven
- surrounded by waters below and above it - see link below....
HTML https://www.pinterest.ph/pin/113715959316206919/
Adam’s world was contained beneath the surface of Lake Van,
Turkey were it was placed in the beginning during the making of
our worlds.
During the great flood, Noah’ Ark was above the highest
mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft.). The firmament, in which
Adam's Earth was contained -- end up floating in Lake Van,
Turkey, the largest Lake in Turkey. It's in the mountains of
Ararat and is some 75 miles wide.
We know this because In the New Testament, we were told that
their heaven and earth.... “ Whereby that the world THEN WAS --
standing out of the water and in the water -- being overflowed
with water, perished” (Greek- totally destroyed) 2Pet 3:5-6
The Ark which was covered, floated out the top of Adam's
firmament into the largest Lake in the area (Lake Van) when the
windows of their heaven opened and the flood gates of waters
rushes in the firmament,.... as the firmament sank and released
the Ark into our world , thus, Adam’s world was totally
destroyed / dissolved in the Global Flood. If it sounds like
Atlantis, so be it.
This explains a way for a 450 foot Ark to be above the highest
mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft) ref. Gen 7:20 ...AND....in
the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood
began (Gen 8:4).
Our God is awesome God.
#Post#: 3783--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 10, 2019, 2:34 am
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Here is what the story of the Tower of Babel teaches:
Again, when the rain came to the world of Adam, the firmament,
which protected the first world from the waters which surround
it, began to sink. The Ark, which was already upon the water
began to rise as the firmament sank. This released the Ark into
ANOTHER world - to our present world.
This explains a way for a 450 foot Ark to be above the highest
mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft) ref. Gen 7:20 ...AND....in
the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood
began (Gen 8:4).
Noah’s descendants thought they could build a tower to Heaven
and escape the present Earth, like Noah had escaped from the
first Earth. They didn't want to be scattered over the face of
the whole Earth, into the lands of the Savages (prehistoric
people), so they tried to escape our world, but the LORD had
other plans.
Thus, was Humanity scattered over the face of the present Earth
and the prehistoric people changed from innocent animal to Human
intelligence. This shows that Humans did NOT evolve from Apes,
but from Noah's descendants.
Our God is an Awesome God and His Holy Word is the Truth, in
every way. It's a mystery to those who have not been born again
Spiritually.
Amen
#Post#: 3808--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 10, 2019, 6:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Seve link ---
>
> Here is what the story of the Tower of Babel teaches:
>
> Again, when the rain came to the world of Adam, the firmament,
which protected the first world from the waters which surround
it, began to sink. The Ark, which was already upon the water
began to rise as the firmament sank. This released the Ark into
ANOTHER world - to our present world.
>
> This explains a way for a 450 foot Ark to be above the highest
mountains of Adam's world (22 1/2 ft) ref. Gen 7:20 ...AND....in
the mountains of Ararat on the SAME 150th day after the flood
began (Gen 8:4).
>
> Noah’s descendants thought they could build a tower to Heaven
and escape the present Earth, like Noah had escaped from the
first Earth. They didn't want to be scattered over the face of
the whole Earth, into the lands of the Savages (prehistoric
people), so they tried to escape our world, but the LORD had
other plans.
>
> Thus, was Humanity scattered over the face of the present
Earth and the prehistoric people changed from innocent animal to
Human intelligence. This shows that Humans did NOT evolve from
Apes, but from Noah's descendants.
>
> Our God is an Awesome God and His Holy Word is the Truth, in
every way. It's a mystery to those who have not been born again
Spiritually.
>
> Amen
>
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]
Whose exotic renderings of Noah's Flood have you been
reading???? They do have you out there in left field... way back
in left field.
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 3810--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 10, 2019, 6:46 pm
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Hello Blade,
Either debate or run..... but, please, stop projecting your own
weaknesses on me by harping from afar.
It's very embarrassing to your own reputation as an
Administrator of this website forum! It's a shame, isn't it?
Have a good day.
#Post#: 3813--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 10, 2019, 8:48 pm
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--- Quote from: Seve link ---
>
> Hello Blade,
>
> Either debate or run..... but, please, stop projecting your
own weaknesses on me by harping from afar.
>
> It's very embarrassing to your own reputation as an
Administrator of this website forum! It's a shame, isn't it?
>
> Have a good day.
>
--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left]I don't get in the outfield. Its not Biblical
and is too far out there. If you want to debate ok but please
keep it Biblical. Your mystic or scientific meanderings mean
nothing are so far off, they mean nothing.
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 3932--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 16, 2019, 12:53 am
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Noah’s Flood:
The idea that Noah brought thousands of animals in the Ark is
UnScriptural. The total number easily could have been few
hundreds of creatures.
There was no need to bring creatures which were created from the
water on the 5th Day, Gen 1:21 since those same kinds of
creatures; animals; and fowls of the air (Their Kinds - Trinity)
were also brought forth on our present Planet and had been here
for Billions of years Before the Ark arrived and floated in the
vicinity of Mt. Ararat (Lake Van. Turkey) some 10k years ago.
The creatures; animals and fowls of the air which were aboard
the Ark were the ones which Jesus, the Son, made with His own
Hands (His Kinds)- like a potter would mold a clay - on the 6th
Day. . Science calls them common ancestors. The common ancestor
of All Humanity on this present planet of ours was a direct
descendant of Adam - the first Human - his name was Noah.
Humans were scattered all over the face of the Earth from Babel
which was built by the son of one of Noah's grandsons, Cush. Gen
10:10 Science agrees and Human civilization can be traced to
Noah's arrival some 10k years ago just south of Mt. Ararat.
God bless
#Post#: 3936--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 16, 2019, 4:01 am
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Dear Readers,
Genesis 1:21 tells us that EVERY living creature that moveth was
created from the water on Day 5. Science, after thousands of
years, finally agrees that, all living creatures/species
including the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) originated from
the water.
Genesis 2 tells us of Creatures made from the dust of the ground
on the 6th Day. Some people see this as a contradiction, and
falsely assume that God made a boo boo.
They are ignorant of the fact that God, CREATED or brought forth
every Living Creature that moved, from the water (Their Kinds =
Trinity), on Day 5.
The account of the formation of the beasts of the field and fowl
of the air, from the Dust of the ground (His Kinds = Son’), on
the 6th Day, is when YHWH, the Son, squeezed, as a potter would
mold clay, and Formed living creatures from the dust of the
ground.
The creatures MADE from the dust were identical to those brought
forth from the water, and could produce offspring together. (Gen
6)
The first Living Being made from the dust was man. Man was
physically MADE from the dust of the ground on the 3rd Day….
before the plants and herbs, right after the mist that watered
the whole face of the ground. Gen 2:4-7 This gives mankind
Preeminence or First Place among all other Living Creatures.
Like the animals made from the dust, Man also married and
produced children with Prehistoric Mankind brought forth from
the water. That's where Cain's wife came from, and that is who
Noah's grandsons married, on this present Planet... after their
world was completely destroyed by the flood and brought to this
present world of ours.. This event took place some 10K + - years
ago. Human Civilization was born.
We have the DNA of the sons of God"(Prehistoric Mankind) and we
also have the Human Intelligence that can ONLY be inherited from
Adam, the first Human. Yes, we all descended with modifications
from a common ancestor and his name is Adam.
God, the Trinity, created every living creature that moveth,
from the water, on the 5th Day, and YHWH, the Son, produced His
Kinds from the dust of the ground on the 6th Day.
God bless
#Post#: 4099--------------------------------------------------
Re: Discussing the Mysteries of Noah's Flood
DIR By: Seve
Date: February 24, 2019, 5:45 am
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Dear Readers,
God also tells us HOW and WHEN the prehistoric people on our
present Earth inherited the Human intelligence which is unique
to Adam and his descendants. God calls prehistoric people whose
origin was in the water on Day 5, is called the sons of God. Gen
1:21
The sons of God (prehistoric people) married and produced the
Humans on the first Earth, which was totally destroyed in the
Flood. Genesis 4 tells us that Cain married and produced Enoch,
his son, with a woman who could ONLY have brought forth from the
water, as God told us in Gen 1:21.
Today's Science confirms that EVERY living creature MUST have
water to live since EVERY cell in our body would die without it.
No Ancient Man could have possibly known this.
Read it for yourself:
Gen. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also
after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of
men (Heb-Adam), and they bare children to them, the same became
mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
The giants were giants intellectually as is shown at the end of
the verse. They were the Humans of the first Earth, and they had
agriculture, smelting, city building, and technology with little
of NO evolution. Adam farmed with NO evolution, and Cain built a
city with NO evolution, showing that Human intelligence is
Superior to ANY creature made from the water.
The fulfillment of the prophecy of "and also after that" was
fulfilled when Noah brought the human intelligence of Adam to
Northern Mesopotamia in the mountains of Ararat. This happened
some 10k years ago and the FIRST human cities and the FIRST
agriculture, and the ONLY Human civilization on our Earth,
PROVES it.
SUDDENLY, the sons of God, (prehistoric people) evolved the
Human intelligence of Adam and changed from animal to Human
intelligence. Prehistoric man settled down, built houses,
cities, and developed math and writing, proving that anything is
possible IF you have the intelligence of the first Human, Adam.
Below is the empirical record of the arrival of the first Humans
on this Earth:
HTML http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html
Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE....
HTML http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/fertilemap.html
In less than 1% of the time since the sons of God diverged from
Chimps, on this Planet, they went from Caves to the Moon and
back, and yet Evolutionists seem to be totally ignorant of this
Fact. Humans also inherited the ERVs of the common ancestor of
Chimps BUT Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor, but
from our own common ancestor whose name is Adam.
God bless
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