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       Are Your Past, Present, and Future Sins Forgiven?
       By: patrick jane Date: January 27, 2019, 7:25 pm
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       Are Your Past, Present, and Future Sins Forgiven?
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       #Post#: 3547--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon Singleton - Do we have to Forgive to be Forgiven?
       By: patrick jane Date: January 29, 2019, 11:55 am
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       I believe we must forgive others to be forgiven just like the
       Bible says. It can be very difficult to do and it is for me. I
       think I have foegiven but sometimes I get those feelings of
       bitterness, resentment and anger.
       #Post#: 3551--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon Singleton - Do we have to Forgive to be Forgiven?
       By: guest8 Date: January 29, 2019, 2:08 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=329.msg3547#msg3547
       date=1548784556]
       I believe we must forgive others to be forgiven just like the
       Bible says. It can be very difficult to do and it is for me. I
       think I have foegiven but sometimes I get those feelings of
       bitterness, resentment and anger.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       I would like to ask the question?: "How many and/or what TYPE of
       SINs" are we to forgive others prior to Salvation?
       Is there a specific number of sins against us by others, we have
       to forgive prior to receiving Salvation?    1, 10, 100, 1000.
       What happens if we DIE before we reach that number?
       What TYPE of SIN.
       thus A murderer of our children shall receive forgiveness but
       how long will it take.
       Is there a time limit????? In the above case, It may take a long
       time before Forgiveness may be given. What if I die before that
       time is reached,
       Make no guesses about it. Forgiveness is a WORKS of MAN. and the
       Authority of Jesus Christ tells us in :
       Gal 2:16: "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of
       the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed
       in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of
       Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the
       law shall no flesh be justified."
       Believing in the Gospel of Jesus Christ  (1 Cor 15:1-4) is to
       receive the FREE GIFT of GOD, Salvation(Justification).  The
       Holy Spirit  also received at this time, will lead you down the
       path to Righteousness. This is done through one's works through
       faith. For without works, there can be no faith:
       James 2:18.."Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have
       works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee
       my faith by my works."
       Blade
       [/shadow]
       #Post#: 3557--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon Singleton - Do we have to Forgive to be Forgiven?
       By: patrick jane Date: January 29, 2019, 10:49 pm
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       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=329.msg3551#msg3551
       date=1548792503]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=329.msg3547#msg3547
       date=1548784556]
       I believe we must forgive others to be forgiven just like the
       Bible says. It can be very difficult to do and it is for me. I
       think I have foegiven but sometimes I get those feelings of
       bitterness, resentment and anger.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       I would like to ask the question?: "How many and/or what TYPE of
       SINs" are we to forgive others prior to Salvation?
       Is there a specific number of sins against us by others, we have
       to forgive prior to receiving Salvation?    1, 10, 100, 1000.
       What happens if we DIE before we reach that number?
       What TYPE of SIN.
       thus A murderer of our children shall receive forgiveness but
       how long will it take.
       Is there a time limit????? In the above case, It may take a long
       time before Forgiveness may be given. What if I die before that
       time is reached,
       Make no guesses about it. Forgiveness is a WORKS of MAN. and the
       Authority of Jesus Christ tells us in :
       Gal 2:16: "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of
       the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed
       in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of
       Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the
       law shall no flesh be justified."
       Believing in the Gospel of Jesus Christ  (1 Cor 15:1-4) is to
       receive the FREE GIFT of GOD, Salvation(Justification).  The
       Holy Spirit  also received at this time, will lead you down the
       path to Righteousness. This is done through one's works through
       faith. For without works, there can be no faith:
       James 2:18.."Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have
       works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee
       my faith by my works."
       Blade
       [/shadow]
       [/quote]It would be easier for you to tell me which sins you
       would not forgive?
       #Post#: 3573--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jon Singleton - Do we have to Forgive to be Forgiven?
       By: guest8 Date: January 30, 2019, 7:53 pm
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       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=329.msg3557#msg3557
       date=1548823764]
       [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=329.msg3551#msg3551
       date=1548792503]
       [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=329.msg3547#msg3547
       date=1548784556]
       I believe we must forgive others to be forgiven just like the
       Bible says. It can be very difficult to do and it is for me. I
       think I have foegiven but sometimes I get those feelings of
       bitterness, resentment and anger.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       I would like to ask the question?: "How many and/or what TYPE of
       SINs" are we to forgive others prior to Salvation?
       Is there a specific number of sins against us by others, we have
       to forgive prior to receiving Salvation?    1, 10, 100, 1000.
       What happens if we DIE before we reach that number?
       What TYPE of SIN.
       thus A murderer of our children shall receive forgiveness but
       how long will it take.
       Is there a time limit????? In the above case, It may take a long
       time before Forgiveness may be given. What if I die before that
       time is reached,
       Make no guesses about it. Forgiveness is a WORKS of MAN. and the
       Authority of Jesus Christ tells us in :
       Gal 2:16: "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of
       the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed
       in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of
       Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the
       law shall no flesh be justified."
       Believing in the Gospel of Jesus Christ  (1 Cor 15:1-4) is to
       receive the FREE GIFT of GOD, Salvation(Justification).  The
       Holy Spirit  also received at this time, will lead you down the
       path to Righteousness. This is done through one's works through
       faith. For without works, there can be no faith:
       James 2:18.."Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have
       works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee
       my faith by my works."
       Blade
       [/shadow]
       [/quote]It would be easier for you to tell me which sins you
       would not forgive?
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]
       PJ, I wrote a oped this evening but must not have saved it.
       Hopefully, I will have better results on this one.
       You Said:"It would be easier for you to tell me which sins you
       would not forgive?"
       It is not the case of 'Which sin I will or will not forgive.'
       Salvation is By Faith and Faith alone. This is something that
       JON does not agree on. He has decided that one has to forgive
       others in order to be eligible for Salvation. If this is the
       case, most all of us will not get Salvation. Jon is living under
       the LAW in order for Salvation,.
       I used the scriptures to prove in my last post, Salvation is by
       Faith and not of the WORKS of MAN. After one receives Salvation,
       they will receive the HS and through HIM, our works will
       increase as we go along our walk to Righteousness. Forgiveness
       is one of those works that will get judged by Jesus at the Bema
       Seat Judgement. This Judgement will not affect one's Salvation,
       but rather effect the crowns we get to wear.
       My example of the murder of a family member shows how faulty
       JON's theology is.
       First, can the family members of the murder victim forgive the
       murderer
       If they can, what is the time period. Do they take 1 year, 2,
       3, 4 years or more to forgive him??????
       Even in the OLD testament, Jesus recognized that forgiveness is
       not always forthcoming. There were sanctuary cities setup where
       if someone (involuntary killed someone), they could go to the
       closest sanctuary city and the family members could not get
       revenge on them.
       Rem, the eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth?
       In the New Testament Jesus sets a higher standard in that he
       said: "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give
       place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will
       repay, saith the Lord.  (Rom 12:19)
       Only until one has a change of heart, after Salvation has
       occurred, can one come to forgiveness for such heart wrenching
       crime against humanity.
       Salvation comes from Faith and Faith alone. Don't let anyone use
       the words of a 'car salesman' and change your mind.
       Have a good day my brother.
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