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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: patrick jane Date: March 30, 2019, 3:07 pm
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[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=323.msg4689#msg4689
date=1553973288]
I was going to go back and include full quotes but I can't find
a modify or edit link in that or my latest post at all...
[/quote]I will check your permissions. Yeah, I'm sorry brother
but this is an older format and we don't get notifications if
somebody quotes us or posts in a thread we started. All new
posts are shown at the right side of the screen and on the far
left in the statistics section, at the top you can click All
Unread Posts. It just takes a little more effort here to
navigate and post correctly but you'll get it.
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: guest8 Date: March 31, 2019, 1:01 am
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=323.msg4687#msg4687
date=1553972274]
[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=323.msg4686#msg4686
date=1553971848]
[quote]In otherwords, God created everyone from Adam till
today as a spirit and does what with them? You said, they await
in Sheol? and Became sinner by our own free will?[/quote]
Those elect who never sinned stayed in the heavenly realms and
some serve GOD as HIS messengers…angel meaning sent out one or
messenger, NOT a race or species of being. My suggestion is that
those elect who chose by their free will to rebel against the
call for the judgment upon their Satanic friends were sent to
one of the rooms of Sheol.
The Satanic non-elect were flung to earth, Rev 12:9.
These people of the evil one are sown into the world by the
devil, Matt 13:38-39…where did they come from?
Then they die and return to where they came from, Sheol: Ps
9:17. It is logical that this is where the sinful good seed, the
sinful people of the kingdom also came from as Job suggests when
he states that when he dies he is returning to where he was
before his birth...(he is not suggesting he return to the womb
nor annihilation).
The sinful elect were flung to the earth by Satan, Rev 12:4. His
tail swept a third of the stars from the sky, tossing them to
the earth. It is not logical thing for him to send away any of
his cohorts just before his big battle with Michael and since
the world flung has a violent, hateful, implication, it seems
likely that these stars were the sinful elect, sent down into
Sheol by Satan’s luring them into sin.
All sinners were sent to Sheol in the center of the earth to
sequester them from polite heavenly society. From there everyone
is sown into the world by their fathers, that is, either by the
Son of Man (GOD) or the devil, for the redemption of HIS sinful
elect, the good but sinful seed.
[/quote]That's some pretty deep thinking even though you were
just summarizing. I can understand what you're describing and
I'd also like to ask a favor of you. I know it takes an extra
minute or two but we don't have the scripture reading app here
so if you could just copy/paste the verses from the Bible
version of your choice it would help me personally and everybody
else. I like where this is going Ted.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Am not sure TED, why you are calling the
angels "elect". Care to elaborate?
Blade[/shadow]
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: guest58 Date: April 1, 2019, 2:22 pm
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[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=323.msg4693#msg4693
date=1554012083][font=verdana]Am not sure TED, why you are
calling the angels "elect". Care to elaborate?
[/font][/quote][font=verdana]
If all the eternally evil angels were flung to the earth then
who is left? 1 Timothy 5:21 I charge you, in the sight of God
and Christ Jesus and the ELECT angels...
AND
the holy angels: Luke 9:26 If anyone is ashamed of Me and My
words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in
His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the HOLY angels.
The parable of the good seed tells us there are sinful elect on
earth and in Luke and 1 Timothy we find there are holy elect
angels in heaven...
I wonder when the holy and elect were separated from the sinful
elect so the sinful elect could be sent to earth as Matt 13:38
The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of
the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the
enemy who sows them is the devil. Where sown cannot mean create
as the devil does it too so it must mean to move.[/font]
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: guest8 Date: April 1, 2019, 9:57 pm
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[quote author=Ted T. link=topic=323.msg4728#msg4728
date=1554146527]
[quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=323.msg4693#msg4693
date=1554012083][font=verdana]Am not sure TED, why you are
calling the angels "elect". Care to elaborate?
[/font][/quote][font=verdana]
If all the eternally evil angels were flung to the earth then
who is left? 1 Timothy 5:21 I charge you, in the sight of God
and Christ Jesus and the ELECT angels...
AND
the holy angels: Luke 9:26 If anyone is ashamed of Me and My
words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in
His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the HOLY angels.
The parable of the good seed tells us there are sinful elect on
earth and in Luke and 1 Timothy we find there are holy elect
angels in heaven...
I wonder when the holy and elect were separated from the sinful
elect so the sinful elect could be sent to earth as Matt 13:38
The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of
the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the
enemy who sows them is the devil. Where sown cannot mean create
as the devil does it too so it must mean to move.[/font]
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]Thank you
Blade[/shadow]
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: patrick jane Date: June 12, 2019, 4:41 am
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Great topic.
#Post#: 6699--------------------------------------------------
Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: patrick jane Date: June 29, 2019, 11:15 am
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=323.msg6280#msg6280
date=1560332494]
Great topic.
[/quote]Good thread.
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: patrick jane Date: July 11, 2019, 5:52 am
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[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=323.msg6699#msg6699
date=1561824928]
[quote author=patrick jane link=topic=323.msg6280#msg6280
date=1560332494]
Great topic.
[/quote]Good thread.
[/quote]Awesome.
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: patrick jane Date: August 4, 2020, 1:34 pm
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yep
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: patrick jane Date: December 15, 2021, 10:55 am
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
By: patrick jane Date: January 14, 2022, 9:52 am
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