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       #Post#: 4690--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: March 30, 2019, 3:07 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ted T. link ---
       >
       > I was going to go back and include full quotes but I can't
       find a modify or edit link in that or my latest post at all...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I will check your permissions. Yeah, I'm sorry brother but this
       is an older format and we don't get notifications if somebody
       quotes us or posts in a thread we started. All new posts are
       shown at the right side of the screen and on the far left in the
       statistics section, at the top you can click All Unread Posts.
       It just takes a little more effort here to navigate and post
       correctly but you'll get it.
       #Post#: 4693--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: March 31, 2019, 1:01 am
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Ted T. link=topic=323.msg4686#msg4686
       date=1553971848]
       > [quote]In otherwords, God created everyone from Adam till
       today as a spirit and does what with them? You said, they await
       in Sheol?  and Became sinner by our own free will?
       --- End Quote ---
       Those elect who never sinned stayed in the heavenly realms and
       some serve GOD as HIS messengers…angel meaning sent out one or
       messenger, NOT a race or species of being. My suggestion is that
       those elect who chose by their free will to rebel against the
       call for the judgment upon their Satanic friends were sent to
       one of the rooms of Sheol.
       The Satanic non-elect were flung to earth, Rev 12:9.
       These people of the evil one are sown into the world by the
       devil, Matt 13:38-39…where did they come from?
       Then they die and return to where they came from, Sheol: Ps
       9:17. It is logical that this is where the sinful good seed, the
       sinful people of the kingdom also came from as Job suggests when
       he states that when he dies he is returning to where he was
       before his birth...(he is not suggesting he return to the womb
       nor annihilation).
       The sinful elect were flung to the earth by Satan, Rev 12:4. His
       tail swept a third of the stars from the sky, tossing them to
       the earth. It is not logical thing for him to send away any of
       his cohorts just before his big battle with Michael and since
       the world flung has a violent, hateful, implication, it seems
       likely that these stars were the sinful elect, sent down into
       Sheol by Satan’s luring them into sin.
       All sinners were sent to Sheol in the center of the earth to
       sequester them from polite heavenly society. From there everyone
       is sown into the world by their fathers, that is, either by the
       Son of Man (GOD) or the devil, for the redemption of HIS sinful
       elect, the good but sinful seed.
       [/quote]That's some pretty deep thinking even though you were
       just summarizing. I can understand what you're describing and
       I'd also like to ask a favor of you. I know it takes an extra
       minute or two but we don't have the scripture reading app here
       so if you could just copy/paste the verses from the Bible
       version of your choice it would help me personally and everybody
       else. I like where this is going Ted.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Am not sure TED, why you are calling the
       angels "elect". Care to elaborate?
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 4728--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: guest58
       Date: April 1, 2019, 2:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
       > Am not sure TED, why you are calling the angels "elect". Care
       to elaborate?
       --- End Quote ---
       If all the eternally evil angels were flung to the earth then
       who is left? 1 Timothy 5:21 I charge you, in the sight of God
       and Christ Jesus and the ELECT angels...
       AND
       the holy angels: Luke 9:26 If anyone is ashamed of Me and My
       words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in
       His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the HOLY angels.
       The parable of the good seed tells us there are sinful elect on
       earth and in Luke and 1 Timothy we find there are holy elect
       angels in heaven...
       I wonder when the holy and elect were separated from the sinful
       elect so the sinful elect could be sent to earth as Matt 13:38
       The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of
       the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the
       enemy who sows them is the devil. Where sown cannot mean create
       as the devil does it too so it must mean to move.
       #Post#: 4734--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: guest8
       Date: April 1, 2019, 9:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ted T. link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=323.msg4693#msg4693
       date=1554012083]Am not sure TED, why you are calling the angels
       "elect". Care to elaborate?
       --- End Quote ---
       If all the eternally evil angels were flung to the earth then
       who is left? 1 Timothy 5:21 I charge you, in the sight of God
       and Christ Jesus and the ELECT angels...
       AND
       the holy angels: Luke 9:26 If anyone is ashamed of Me and My
       words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in
       His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the HOLY angels.
       The parable of the good seed tells us there are sinful elect on
       earth and in Luke and 1 Timothy we find there are holy elect
       angels in heaven...
       I wonder when the holy and elect were separated from the sinful
       elect so the sinful elect could be sent to earth as Matt 13:38
       The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of
       the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the
       enemy who sows them is the devil. Where sown cannot mean create
       as the devil does it too so it must mean to move.
       [/quote]
       [shadow=blue,left]Thank you
       Blade[/shadow]
       #Post#: 6280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: June 12, 2019, 4:41 am
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       Great topic.
       #Post#: 6699--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: June 29, 2019, 11:15 am
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > Great topic.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good thread.
       #Post#: 6951--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: July 11, 2019, 5:52 am
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       --- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
       >
       > [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=323.msg6280#msg6280
       date=1560332494]
       > Great topic.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Good thread.
       [/quote]Awesome.
       #Post#: 15836--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: August 4, 2020, 1:34 pm
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       yep
       #Post#: 36169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: December 15, 2021, 10:55 am
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       Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
   DIR By: patrick jane
       Date: January 14, 2022, 9:52 am
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