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Why Once Saved Always Saved is Utterly Fallacious
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: January 26, 2019, 1:01 pm
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Why Once Saved Always Saved is Utterly Fallacious
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Saved, Catholic Doctrine, Greek Orthodox Doctrine, and KJV OSAS
Baptist Doctrine. We seek to promote true Repentance as having a
true heart change to turn from sin and follow Jesus Christ. We
believe that one must be willing to repent from sin to be saved,
and that a life following Christ will bear good fruit and will
have a repentance from any sin accidentally or ignorantly done
in the future. We also seek to reach the lost through evangelism
and by telling them that it is impossible to follow God and the
forces of evil at the same time; you must pick who this day whom
you shall serve. Although we do not believe that everyone who
believes in Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe
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outright.
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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: guest8
Date: January 26, 2019, 9:07 pm
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> One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
>
>
>
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> Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks
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Always Saved, Catholic Doctrine, Greek Orthodox Doctrine, and
KJV OSAS Baptist Doctrine. We seek to promote true Repentance as
having a true heart change to turn from sin and follow Jesus
Christ. We believe that one must be willing to repent from sin
to be saved, and that a life following Christ will bear good
fruit and will have a repentance from any sin accidentally or
ignorantly done in the future. We also seek to reach the lost
through evangelism and by telling them that it is impossible to
follow God and the forces of evil at the same time; you must
pick who this day whom you shall serve. Although we do not
believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under
condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine
that should be rejected outright.
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[shadow=blue,left][glow=blue,2,300]Jon continues to show his
theology is a Work's Theology. He does not rightly divide the
Bible and teaches from verses that were being taught to the
Jewish people in an effort to bring them out of the Law of Moses
to the Grace of Jesus Christ.
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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: January 26, 2019, 9:38 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=322.msg3451#msg3451
date=1548529262]
> One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
>
>
>
> [glow=red,2,300]Please Subscribe To Jon's YT Cannel :[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGN84DRRT63r3Pg5ozCFLJw
>
>
> Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks
to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved
Always Saved, Catholic Doctrine, Greek Orthodox Doctrine, and
KJV OSAS Baptist Doctrine. We seek to promote true Repentance as
having a true heart change to turn from sin and follow Jesus
Christ. We believe that one must be willing to repent from sin
to be saved, and that a life following Christ will bear good
fruit and will have a repentance from any sin accidentally or
ignorantly done in the future. We also seek to reach the lost
through evangelism and by telling them that it is impossible to
follow God and the forces of evil at the same time; you must
pick who this day whom you shall serve. Although we do not
believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under
condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine
that should be rejected outright.
>
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> 16 minutes
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[shadow=blue,left][glow=blue,2,300]Jon continues to show his
theology is a Work's Theology. He does not rightly divide the
Bible and teaches from verses that were being taught to the
Jewish people in an effort to bring them out of the Law of Moses
to the Grace of Jesus Christ.
Blade[/glow][/shadow]
[/quote]Yes. I am liking his preaching of repentance because too
many people think can hold on to their favorite sins and keep
doing them as if they have no choice and can't stop sinning. We
are not sinners but saints. That doesn't mean people can watch
porn and commit adultery, lie and steal. I like this guy but he
is young and confused about a lot of things. That young naive
girl's videos I had posted are gone. She deleted her whole
channel after tons of negative YouTube comments to her. So I
thought this guy was a little better for discussing Works VS
Grace. He also hates us dispys but he doesn't crap about it.
#Post#: 3730--------------------------------------------------
Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: February 6, 2019, 3:10 pm
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Eternal Security
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Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 6, 2019, 5:26 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=Bladerunner link=topic=322.msg3460#msg3460
date=1548558449]
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=322.msg3451#msg3451
date=1548529262]
> One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
>
>
>
> [glow=red,2,300]Please Subscribe To Jon's YT Cannel :[/glow]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGN84DRRT63r3Pg5ozCFLJw
>
>
> Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks
to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved
Always Saved, Catholic Doctrine, Greek Orthodox Doctrine, and
KJV OSAS Baptist Doctrine. We seek to promote true Repentance as
having a true heart change to turn from sin and follow Jesus
Christ. We believe that one must be willing to repent from sin
to be saved, and that a life following Christ will bear good
fruit and will have a repentance from any sin accidentally or
ignorantly done in the future. We also seek to reach the lost
through evangelism and by telling them that it is impossible to
follow God and the forces of evil at the same time; you must
pick who this day whom you shall serve. Although we do not
believe that everyone who believes in Calvinism is under
condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very dangerous doctrine
that should be rejected outright.
>
>
> 16 minutes
>
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--- End Quote ---
[shadow=blue,left][glow=blue,2,300]Jon continues to show his
theology is a Work's Theology. He does not rightly divide the
Bible and teaches from verses that were being taught to the
Jewish people in an effort to bring them out of the Law of Moses
to the Grace of Jesus Christ.
Blade[/glow][/shadow]
[/quote]Yes. I am liking his preaching of repentance because too
many people think can hold on to their favorite sins and keep
doing them as if they have no choice and can't stop sinning. We
are not sinners but saints. That doesn't mean people can watch
porn and commit adultery, lie and steal. I like this guy but he
is young and confused about a lot of things. That young naive
girl's videos I had posted are gone. She deleted her whole
channel after tons of negative YouTube comments to her. So I
thought this guy was a little better for discussing Works VS
Grace. He also hates us dispys but he doesn't crap about it.
[/quote]
[shadow=blue,left]As unfortunate as it is, there should be no
discussion about works vs GRACE. This is a no brainer. Works is
a product of Grace.
Blade[/shadow]
#Post#: 3735--------------------------------------------------
Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: guest8
Date: February 6, 2019, 8:50 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> Eternal Security
>
>
>
>
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>
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[shadow=blue,left]The teacher in this video is SPOT ON. He
details the the differences between the Law of Moses and the
Grace of Jesus Christ.
However He does leave out one point of Calvinism that is one of
the major stumbling blocks. OSAS,(Once Saved, Always Saved).
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#Post#: 5953--------------------------------------------------
Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: guest58
Date: May 27, 2019, 1:08 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
>
> Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks
to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved
Always Saved....
--- End Quote ---
If we can lose actual salvation, how does that NOT contradict
John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall
lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the
last day.?
I prefer to say: Once elect, predestined to heaven and
perfectly saved if redemption is necessary.
--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
> Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in
Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very
dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright.
--- End Quote ---
What do you offer instead?
#Post#: 5963--------------------------------------------------
Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: patrick jane
Date: May 27, 2019, 7:39 pm
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--- Quote from: Ted T. link ---
>
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=322.msg3451#msg3451
date=1548529262]
> One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
>
> Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks
to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved
Always Saved....
--- End Quote ---
If we can lose actual salvation, how does that NOT contradict
John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall
lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the
last day.
I prefer to say: Once elect, predestined to heaven and
perfectly saved if redemption is necessary.
--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
> Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in
Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very
dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright.
--- End Quote ---
What do you offer instead?
[/quote]I agree with you Ted. I knew this kid was wrong when I
first heard him. I met him in a flat earth debate and I started
listening to him for a few months. I decided to post some of his
videos as an example of what others wrongly preach and believe.
He won't be here to answer any question and the videos are here
for comments and viewing/listening.
#Post#: 8076--------------------------------------------------
Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: guest8
Date: September 23, 2019, 7:47 pm
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--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
>
> [quote author=Ted T. link=topic=322.msg5953#msg5953
date=1558980480]
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=322.msg3451#msg3451
date=1548529262]
> One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
>
> Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks
to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved
Always Saved....
--- End Quote ---
If we can lose actual salvation, how does that NOT contradict
John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall
lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the
last day.
I prefer to say: Once elect, predestined to heaven and
perfectly saved if redemption is necessary.
--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
> Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in
Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very
dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright.
--- End Quote ---
What do you offer instead?
[/quote]I agree with you Ted. I knew this kid was wrong when I
first heard him. I met him in a flat earth debate and I started
listening to him for a few months. I decided to post some of his
videos as an example of what others wrongly preach and believe.
He won't be here to answer any question and the videos are here
for comments and viewing/listening.
[/quote]
will have to listen to the post.
Blade
#Post#: 8077--------------------------------------------------
Re: One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
DIR By: guest8
Date: September 23, 2019, 8:09 pm
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--- Quote from: Bladerunner link ---
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=322.msg5963#msg5963
date=1559003994]
> [quote author=Ted T. link=topic=322.msg5953#msg5953
date=1558980480]
>
> [quote author=patrick jane link=topic=322.msg3451#msg3451
date=1548529262]
> One Minute Apologist & Eternal Security Examined!
>
> Anchored Alliance Evangelism is a Youtube channel that seeks
to refute false doctrine such as Easy Belivism, Once Saved
Always Saved....
--- End Quote ---
If we can lose actual salvation, how does that NOT contradict
John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall
lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the
last day.
I prefer to say: Once elect, predestined to heaven and
perfectly saved if redemption is necessary.
--- Quote from: patrick jane link ---
> Although we do not believe that everyone who believes in
Calvinism is under condemnation, we believe Calvinism is a very
dangerous doctrine that should be rejected outright.
--- End Quote ---
What do you offer instead?
[/quote]I agree with you Ted. I knew this kid was wrong when I
first heard him. I met him in a flat earth debate and I started
listening to him for a few months. I decided to post some of his
videos as an example of what others wrongly preach and believe.
He won't be here to answer any question and the videos are here
for comments and viewing/listening.
[/quote]
will have to listen to the post.
Blade
[/quote]
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I listen to it and I diagrees. GOD does NOT make mistakes.. John
cannot tell a True Christian from a Christian in name only any
better than I can.
John uses the CHurch of Galatian to determine that all who are
in it are Christians. Where is there a church that has 100% true
Chrisitians other than the church (Body of Christ and Bride to
be).
Blade[/shadow]
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